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I find something very interesting.
We've had two calls today, and I am certain we will get more from people who say that they don't hear anything wrong with what we have played from the sermons of the pastor of Obama's church in Chicago, Jeremiah Wright.
Let's listen to this one again.
This is a sermon from 2001, shortly after the 9-11 attacks.
We bombed Hiroshima.
We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon.
And we never batted an eye.
We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards.
America's chickens are coming home to roost.
Okay, now let's examine this within the context of modern day politics.
We've had people call.
I don't hear anything wrong with what the pastor is saying.
What is, ladies and gentlemen, what is the thrust of the Obama foreign policy as stated to date?
See, I think because of the way Senator Obama's responding to this bunch of video and audio of his pastor that's out there gives us an indication what his foreign policy is.
What we just heard from Jeremiah Wright is pretty close to what today's Democrat Party believes.
All through the past five years during the war in Iraq, what have we heard from various Democrats?
That our reputation in the world's gone south.
Our reputation's horrible.
This kind of stuff we've brought on ourselves, we deserve this.
We got to go around and we got to talk.
We got to get a new president.
We got to talk to these people around the world and let them know that we're not the bad apples that they think we are.
We just got one rotten guy, and that's Bush.
Well, two, and Cheney.
But give us some.
Now, all Obama would have had to say, if somebody asked him specifically about this comment from his pastor, all Obama would have had to say is, well, that's why I want to be president, because there are more Americans who think this than is healthy.
And I want to be president so I can straighten this out.
It's not healthy for as many Americans to think this as do.
He could nuke it.
Speaking of nukes, he could knock it out of the ballpark with that.
He wouldn't endorse it.
He would say, I'm sad to hear this.
I'm sad to know so many Americans think this is true.
That's why I want to be president.
But instead, what does he do?
He goes into one of these answers as oh, Mrs. Clinton's got his testicles in a lockbox.
And he starts, you know, pussy-footing around, doesn't say anything.
Which, as a voter and as an American, makes me think, makes me ask, perhaps Obama agrees with the guy on this too.
Maybe Obama does think that we are the evil in the world.
Maybe he believes that the United States is the problem and not the solution.
Maybe he agrees with this pastor.
That's why I want to know from Senator Obama.
Don't tell us what you don't agree with that your pastor has said.
Please tell us what you like that he has said.
It would be very easy to do, would it not?
Just tell us what he said that you agree with.
Wall Street Journal today, Ronald Kessler, Obama and the minister.
In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama's longtime minister, friend, and advisor blamed America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs, creating a racist society that would never elect a black candidate president.
The Reverend Jeremiah Wright gave the sermon at the Howard University Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel in Washington, January 15th, 2006.
We got more black men in prison than there are in college.
Racism alive and well.
Racism is how the country was founded and how the country is still run.
No black man will ever be considered for president no matter how hard you run.
Jesse, no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body.
Just two years ago.
He continued, America is still a number one killer in the world.
We're deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, the training of professional killers.
We bomb Cambodia, Iraq, and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Gaddafi.
We put Mandela in prison, supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there.
We believe in white supremacy, black inferiority, and believe it more than we believe in God.
His voice was rising, and he said, we supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians, branding anybody who spoke out against as being anti-Semitic.
We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means.
And then, in conclusion, Pastor Wright said, we started the AIDS virus.
We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that the third world lives in grinding poverty.
All right.
Chalk it up.
You know, some black experience.
What he's doing when he makes these hate-filled racist remarks is literally dispiriting and destroying the opportunity for anybody who hears him and believes him to become a full-fledged participating American.
He's creating and sustaining, like so much of the race business does in this country, so much of the civil rights movement does, a second-class population.
Just enough money to give to the church, but not enough money to be independent from some sort of government assistance, which equals a vote for a Democrat.
Started the AIDS virus.
I know we're supposed, but Russ, that's what they believe.
I mean, you've got to deal with it.
That's what Obama should say.
Obama should come out and say, well, too many people believe this.
I agree that it's a problem.
That's why I want to be president, because it's unhealthy for this many Americans.
But I'm not sure he thinks that.
I'm not sure based on this guy going to this church for 20 years and listening to this pastor.
I'm not sure that this candidate doesn't disagree because it'd be so easy to deal with this and be done with it.
But he's not doing that.
So it, oh, you want to hear a bit of irony?
You want to hear a bit of, I bet you haven't heard this.
It's a Reuters story from the Times Online in the UK.
Headline, John McCain told to dump spiritual guide in row over war on Islam.
John McCain, a presumptive Republican presidential nominee, has been called upon to renounce a church leader he considers his spiritual guide for urging a Christian war to destroy the false religion of Islam.
A number of prominent U.S. web logs demanded that McCain reject the support.
This guy's name is Reverend Rod Parsley of the World Harvest Church of Columbus, an influential televangelist and political figure who campaigned alongside McCain in a run-up to the Ohio primary.
On February 26th, the week before the vote, Mr. McCain appeared at a campaign rally in Cincinnati with the evangelical pastor who praised the candidate as a strong, true, consistent conservative.
With Huckabee then continuing to snap at his heels, Parsley's endorsement was a boon to McCain and his efforts to knock out Huckabee and win over social conservatives.
Standing side by side with the minister, McCain hailed him as his spiritual guide.
Okay, so McCain's got an evangelical Christian who is a spiritual guide, and apparently somebody says, I've never heard this, but this preacher urges Christian war to destroy the false religion of Islam.
And now everybody, you've got to get rid of this guy.
You've got to denounce this, and you've got to get rid of this guy.
Double standard.
Anyone?
Open Line Friday.
Back to the phones.
People have been patiently waiting.
Christina in Chico, California.
Nice to have you with us.
Hello.
Thank you, Rush.
Nice to be here with you, too.
Appreciate that.
Is it okay for me to make one comment before the original reason I called?
Yes, of course.
It's Open Line Friday.
Full liberties are extended.
I was just going to say that as a church-going person, that I would never allow someone to be my spiritual advisor unless I agreed with their integrity and their view of the world, and that we shared the same views and moral character, and I was in agreement with them.
I could never let someone advise me.
That's the scary thing.
Right.
That's the scary thing about it.
I've got a story here from the Chicago Tribune from January 21st of 2007, 15 months ago.
In 1985, Barack Obama visited the church in 1985 as a community activist.
He was not a churchgoer at the time, but he found himself returning to the sanctuary of Trinity United.
In Jeremiah Wright, he found both a spiritual mentor and role model.
Yes, that just, for whatever he says about his disagreements, I don't believe it.
It's insincere and it just is not believable to me.
So he could be an angry.
That's a good point.
I mean, you're not going to have somebody as a spiritual advisor that you don't agree with.
I don't know how you could do that.
And then the other reason I called is just having been in churches and having pastored with my husband, as a 501c3, you are not allowed from the pulpit to make any kind of political.
Yeah, well, they're looking into the guy.
They're looking into his church, the IRS.
But, you know, this has been looked at and winked at for I don't know how many years.
I mean, how many times have Democrats gone into the church and Clinton did it, raise money in there during election season?
Yeah, that's true.
They're allowed to do that as long as they give equal time to the other side.
You're allowed, as long as you're giving equal time to both sides, you're supposed to be allowed to do that, but you can't just give one person or one leaning, I mean, lean towards one direction.
Well, I don't know if the other side's been allowed in, the Trinity United Church of Christ.
I don't know.
I know, I know.
I just found it interesting.
Christina, thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
We move on to what is this?
Huma, Louisiana?
Huma, Mike, welcome to the program.
Great, you're here.
Yes, sir.
Hi.
Can you hear me, Rush?
Yeah, I hear you just fine.
Do you hear me?
Mega Diddles.
I hear you.
Great.
Appreciate it.
Long-time listener, first-time caller.
Thank you, sir.
Listen, I'm calling to comment on Reverend Wright or Dr. Wright or whatever they're calling him.
And I am a black male, but I'm also an avid churchgoer, a man of faith.
The thing that disturbed me most about the last clip you played is that it's reminiscent.
A lot of the liberals won't bring this up, that Malcolm X, also Malcolm Little, said the very exact same thing as an open black separatist before he made his pilgrimage to Mecca.
And that caused his breakaway from the nation of Islam, which inevitably led to his demise.
So to have someone with that type of radical mentality as an advisor, you know, that's, I just don't know how people can say that they're advocating the love of Christ, but openly speaking about hate.
Yeah, I know.
And, you know, this is, we've had people call here today.
They say, well, you know, you just don't understand the black church context and experience.
Well, that may be true, but you've named it.
I don't care.
Preaching hate doesn't do anybody any good anytime.
And I think you're right.
I think there is an attempt here.
This guy's clearly advocating separatism.
This guy does not want any in his congregation to like white people at all.
He wants them to walk out of there hating white people.
Now, you tell me how that's productive for anybody, particularly the country.
And you tell me how in the world that comes from the Bible or from Christianity or any other religion for that matter.
But this guy is clearly advocating hatred and perhaps separatism.
And you know, Dr. King was all just the opposite.
Dr. King was all about integration.
And the, you know, Brown versus Board of Education is all about integration.
And now it seems that so many of these civil rights leaders, be they pastors or what have you, are interested in separatism against segregation.
Even when integration laws allow the discrimination of the past to be forgotten and the college admissions or other clubs and they get inside still want have advocates and leaders suggesting that they segregate once they integrate.
And this is why, you know, if you're a human being, if you have any humanity about you at all, and if you have any appreciation for the greatness of this country, the idea that you would rather have your flock or the people who are under your spell constantly poor, angry, filled with hatred and rage, I don't see the humanity in that.
I just don't see basic humanity in what Pastor Wright happens to be preaching.
We've all got things that made us mad over our life.
All had things that were unfair, every damn one of us.
I know, but Rush, it would happen because of skin color.
I understand that progress is being made and has been made, lots of it.
But despite that, everybody has some kind of an obstacle, and lots of them are unfair.
And there are lots of people who face all kinds of discrimination on the basis of some other physical characteristic that they might have, not just the color of their skin.
But there aren't whole industries that have been set up to establish, for example, there is no civil rights group for the fat.
There is no civil rights group for one-armed amputees living in Soho in New York City.
It's just, yeah, but Rush, you're confusing.
And none of that was institutional.
I'm saying the institutional was.
It's not.
We've got.
By the way, did I not predict this?
We've got the first legitimate black man running for president of the United States.
And look what's happening in this party.
Look at what's happening in the Democrat Party.
We have a race war.
You can call it a civil war, call it an uncivil war, but we've got a race war going on in the Democrat Party while the first legitimate candidate for president as a black man is leading their pack.
What does that tell you?
I know there are a lot of people who believe that if Obama gets a nomination and then is elected president, that we can forever banish our racist past, our original sin of racism and slavery.
Banish it.
It will be over.
We will have crossed the divide.
We shall have reached the mountaintop.
We shall have crossed the threshold.
And I tell you, my friends, it's only going to get worse.
Look at what happened to Geraldine Farrar.
Look what happens to anybody out there, especially on the Democrat side right now, starts to criticize Obama.
They point fingers and say, racist.
It's only going to get worse.
Let's just go down the road.
Let's say this guy gets elected president.
State of the Union speech.
Republicans do their response.
Let's say they choose a white guy to do the response to Obama's State of the Union.
The next day, Sharpton and Jackson go into gear, the Justice Brothers, and claim to criticisms based in race, rooted in Republican anger that Obama won, and that that response just was a telegraph to the rest of the Republicans to get rid of this guy as quickly as we can in the next election.
Whether it's true or not, they will say it.
It's going to be made to order for him for those in the civil rights race, prop them up business.
Quick time out here.
We'll be back much more straight ahead on the EIB network.
Here, here's another way to look at this.
This is a good point.
Clarice Feldman at theAmericanThinker.com.
What do we have in Barack Obama?
We have Mr. Sunshine.
We have Mr. Hope.
We have Mr. Change.
We have Mr. Future.
We have Mr. Unity.
Do we not?
Do we have all those things?
I mean, that's what he is.
That's his image.
He got people fainting.
We've got a guy whom people interpret in an almost messianic way.
And yet, everybody around this guy is foaming at the mouth.
His preacher is foaming at the mouth.
His wife is mad as hell all the time.
Or a lot.
Why aren't the people who are closest, this is Clarice Feldman's point, why aren't the people who are closest to Barack Obama happy?
Why aren't they filled with sunshine?
Why aren't they, Brian, radiating goodness, righteousness, And happiness.
Why is everybody around this guy so teed off all the time?
If he is Mr. Sunshine and Unity, where is this reconciliation?
See, this, ladies and gentlemen, is the point.
He is going to unify us.
He is going to unify America.
He is going to unify all of us.
We are going to come together and we are going to see a new sun, a new future, one of hope and excitement, a new challenge that will be met by a collective unity, all working toward the same goal of hope and change.
And yet, everybody around him is the opposite of him.
They're mad as hell.
His wife's mad all the time.
Pastor, of course, probably.
Where is all of this hope and future and love?
Where is it in Obama's closest circle?
Which is why I have been suggesting he's been living two lives.
We got the life that we see when he wanted to be president and whatever went on before that.
And we know that he's been hanging around with his minister, Atika K in South Carolina.
Derek, I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the program.
God bless you, Rush.
For the first time ever, I think you're wrong this time, my man, because when I first heard you, I heard all the rumors of everybody that I've always been a Republican.
I've never, ever in my life voted for a Democrat.
And all my friends used to always call you racists and things like that.
And so my response is always, well, listen to him for a while.
And after a while, a racist is going to reveal himself.
If you just listen and don't say anything.
And so I would say in Barack Obama's case, I would definitely look at the people that he's around.
You're not looking at everybody that he's around.
He actually went to Columbia University.
Is that correct?
Yeah, he went to Harvard, I think.
Yeah, one of those.
Ivy Lid School.
Yes.
He's well educated.
Exactly.
Some of his closest friends are obviously graduated from Columbia as well.
And I don't think that's a black college last time I checked.
No, but what is your point?
Well, my point is, Rush, when I heard you, I listened.
I waited and I listened to your entire – I listened to you for at least two years before I came up with a decision.
And you're making a decision based on a couple of episcops, a couple of messages that you just took clips of.
Like, for example, the message that you left or the clip that you played yesterday, you only played the first part.
I actually listened to that whole message, and it actually, that actually turned out to be a pretty good gospel message about love and Jesus and how Jesus loved.
Yeah, we played that.
We played that portion of it today.
There's no love in this guy's church.
There's no love in his message to those people.
He is preaching hate.
He's telling them to hate white people out there.
Derek, he's preaching a separatist message.
It's distressing to me.
In 2008, America, this is distressing.
Frankly, you know something, Derek?
I am sick of these racial divides.
They are not necessary, and they're being promulgated by people who benefit financially from keeping the racial divide going.
There's no reason for as many black African Americans in this country today to think they have no chance because rich white guys are not going to let them get anywhere.
There's no excuse for that.
Too many examples of all kinds of successful black people in all walks of life from all political parties.
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right on both of those points, Rush.
I agree that how can we get past this racial divide?
You know, ever since you played that message, I'm here.
I've heard a lot of people call in on all the different talk shows just locally, and you can hear the anger.
You can hear the anger that a lot of people have because of that.
And so, how do we move past that?
How do we move past the deep anger that's deeply rooted in the world?
Well, look, the hatred.
Generational.
The deep anger is going to have to stop being taught.
This is a flawed analogy, and I don't want you to, I'm not comparing anybody, but if you look at these, go look at anywhere in the Middle East where there is a terrorist enclave.
How many times have you seen these parents strapping bombs on three-year-olds and sending them on a bus?
And for those little kids that don't have bombs strapped to them, how do you think they're being raised?
They're being raised to hate, hate, hate.
That's where terrorists come from.
Now, I think that you've got a preacher like this.
This is not terrorism, and don't anybody think so.
But when you constantly tell people from young, impressionable ages lies about their own country, they may be lies too.
They might not have been lies 50 years ago.
They are lies today.
But if you want them to live 50 years ago, if you don't want them to know the truth of what their own country is all about, when they have their own eyes, by the way, they can see people who are not white immigrate and move to this country and do pretty good.
They see them getting into schools.
I see them graduating.
I see them moving into homes.
And guys like Jeremiah Wright's flock, I don't know how wealthy his congregation is.
It's on Chicago's South Side, but there are a number of people, you could put Charpton and Jackson into the Civil Rights Coalition leaders whose job it is to deny the truth of what this country is based on a 50-year-old truth that's no longer a truth.
People have been struggling with this who are far smarter than I am to get past it.
But one of the reasons I'm reacting to this with such a focus past couple days is that the guy who is running for president of the Democrat side, who's leading, his mentor is this guy.
His spiritual advisor is this guy.
And, you know, most people that run for the presidency get a media anal exam, and Obama's not getting it.
And precisely because there is a lot of fear that anybody who gives him the same treatment that any other presidential candidate gets is going to be accused of racism.
And so everybody's reacting to this with kid gloves.
I think these are things that need to be explained.
When you listen to Jeremiah Wright talk about America being the focus of evil in the modern world and that we've only getting what we deserve, for example, on 9-11, then you listen to Obama basically, when he does delve into foreign policy, say, I'm going to go talk to all these people.
I'm going to assure them that they have no problem with us.
I'm afraid he agrees with this guy.
He hasn't denounced it, not specifically.
It's something as a voter and as an American citizen, I want to know.
I'm curious.
The whole Democrat Party hasn't denounced it.
In fact, a lot of elected Democrats are saying the same thing the pastor's saying, just not as incendiarily, but they're saying it.
Harry Reid waving the white flag of surrender in Iraq, trying to sabotage victory, trying to demoralize the troops.
The Democrat Party has done everything they can to secure defeat in Iraq.
The Democrat Party's done everything they can to talk down the U.S. economy.
A Democrat Party is into destruction and damage.
And so here comes a guy from the pulpit who says, in a theoretical sense or philosophical sense, much of what we've been hearing from Democrat Party leaders.
He just says it in a way that's a little bit more fiery.
Nobody's denouncing him.
And Barack is not denouncing him.
And Barack's out there saying, I'm going to get us out of Iraq.
But believing that if we elect a president thinks that we're the focus of evil in the modern world, we have a problem.
We have a huge problem.
And if we're going to do that, people ought to know what they're doing before they head in to the polling place.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
Hi, welcome back.
It's Rush Limbaugh.
It's Open Line Friday.
I mentioned this earlier.
Anderson Cooper, host of Anderson Cooper 180 on CNN, just distressed as hell, terribly upset that this Jeremiah Wright story is even out there.
Had this exchange with Gloria Borger.
It's also frustrating just from a news standpoint because on the one hand, I mean, people are talking about it.
It's clearly an issue that's bubbling up in the campaign trail.
So we end up covering it.
But at the same time, it does feel just completely off track.
And there have been other issues in this campaign which have just felt completely off track from the real differences between these candidates, the real issues.
It's frustrating that yet again we seem to be mired in this politics as usual.
But presidential campaigns are about character also.
They're about issues and they're about who these people are, which is why sometimes they do tend to veer off.
Who tends to veer off?
What was she saying?
I don't know what she was saying.
All I know is that Anderson Cooper is just distressed.
They have to be talking about this.
Yeah, it's bubbled up in the camp.
Why do we have to talk about this?
So it's interesting to see what news judgment is out there in the drive-bys.
You know, if you were the New York Times or if you were CNN, you might hold this until three days before the election if it were about a Republican.
That's generally the way they play it.
I wonder, did Anderson Cooper complain about all of the last-minute stories on George W. Bush and the National Guard?
When's the last news story CNN carried that Anderson Cooper was distressed having to discuss?
How about 1980?
88?
What was this?
92 or 80?
I forget one of these elections.
Gary Sick, Columbia professor, comes out of the book, October Surprise, Bush 41 Involved with Holding the Hostages in Iran.
New York Times, it's the night before the election, we got the story about, or the weekend before the election, we got the story about Bush in a DWI.
When's the last time any of these people in Drive-By Media got all upset about the news they had to report?
Yeah, were you upset about having to talk about Mark Foley?
Were you upset about having to talk about Macau all season long, Anderson?
Who's next on this one?
I'm going to put my glasses on to read this.
This is Dean in Bunila, Iowa.
Am I pronouncing that right?
Yes, you are.
Thank you, sir.
Welcome to the program.
Thank you, Megadittos Rush.
Hey, I was just wondering, I've been a fan of the show for a long time.
And has Chris Matthews ever guest-hosted your show?
Yes, he has.
And why did you do that?
Well, you know, there was a time that, this has helped me out on this.
It was the mid-90s, right?
Yeah, at least that long ago.
It's been a long time, way before he ever came out as being more liberal.
You know, for a time there, he was almost conservative.
Well, in part, but we put him on as a guest host.
We knew that he wasn't full-fledged conservative, but we did it just as a change of pace.
Okay.
But back then, he and I had a good relationship.
I was going on his show, and he was calling into my show.
And we had a good relationship back then.
But I stopped being invited to go on his show.
Maybe I stopped accepting invitations.
I don't know which.
But clearly, that network now is the House Organ for the Democrat National Committee.
Yeah.
I mean, I think I remember that show he was on, and, you know, I mean, it was pretty good, if I remember right.
I didn't hear, you know, I never listen when I'm not here.
Obviously, if I could listen, I would be here to do the show.
So I didn't hear it.
I'm trying to, my memory isn't.
We had some people complain.
Well, I can believe it.
It just kind of astonished me at the one time.
And as the years progress, it's like, do I remember right?
We're going back.
We're going back 13 or 14 years here.
We have to be.
I mean, this is a perfect Open Mind Friday call, but I'm stunned that you remember it and wanted to know.
Your calling actually chastised me for doing this 14 years later, aren't you?
That's what you're doing.
Well, a little bit, but.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what you're doing.
How could you.
What were you thinking, Rush?
Exactly.
Let me tell you something.
There have been a lot of guest hosts on this program.
There are stranger circumstances than that one.
Yeah, well, that's all my question was, but I was just kind of curious.
Well, I hope that your curiosity has been dealt with.
It has.
Thanks much.
Curtis in Flowery Branch, Georgia, training home of the Atlanta Falcons.
Nice to have you here, Curtis.
Welcome.
Thank you so much, Rush.
I've got to say, these dittos have to be the most ridiculous amount of dittos you've ever received today.
So mega dittos, mega dittos.
And I've always agreed with you at least 98.8% of the time.
Well, that's, it can't, because I'm not, you know, that's about, that's the accuracy rating right now.
So if you agree with me more than that, you're going to be wrong.
Oh, I don't know about that.
But anyway, just to the point, you know, all this stuff that we've been talking about is just more and more, you know, just examples of how this racism keeps coming from the left.
Exactly.
I mean, does it ever end with these people?
No, you don't.
Because they're the ones that look at people and see skin color, gender.
They see things where they can divide them into groups.
You're absolutely right.
The civil war in this country is on the left.
It's being perpetuated.
It's coming home to roost for everybody to see now in their presidential contest.
You know, I mean, if this was our own candidate pushing this way, don't you think that we as conservatives would be just immediately would throw that candidate under the bus?
Be like, we don't stand for these kinds of things.
Oh, we've done it.
We have excommunicated candidates.
By not supporting them, by humiliating, laughing at them and so forth, you're absolutely right.
And my second question was a little golf question.
I went recently on a little golfing vacation with my wife, and we were playing a really nice course.
I had the GPS, and they had the handicap things written on there.
And we couldn't, I really don't know.
I'm still kind of new to golf.
Can you explain the handicap and what your handicap would be after that?
Is a handicap what?
Like the handicap in golfing.
You want to know my handicap?
Yeah, your handicap and how does that work?
Well, it's a very, very complicated process.
It takes a computer to figure it out.
And I don't have time to explain it to you off the top.
But it's your handicap always ends up less than it should be.
Just know that.
By the way, there's other news out there, ladies and gentlemen.