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So we just played these four audio soundbites of Obama, and you just heard them.
And basically, he's about hope and the future.
And, of course, you know, everybody said, well, who's possibly against the future?
Well, I'm not necessarily against the future, but somebody's got to be for right now.
And I am for right now.
If you don't pay attention to right now, then the future could be bad.
So, I mean, we're all for the future.
I'm not necessarily against the future, but somebody got to stand up for right now.
And I am the man to stand up for right now.
I want to grab a quick phone call because it sets up what's coming.
This is Jack in Boston.
Great to have you here.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Yeah, Rush.
I never would have thought that it would actually come true, but you remember the 1979 or 1980 movie Being There with Peter Sellers.
Oh, yeah.
There was a character, Chauncey Gardner.
Now, the way people react to Chauncey Gardner is the same way people react to Barack Obama.
He didn't say anything.
He just talked about planting the seeds and we'll grow to the future and good.
And at the end of the movie, I think he walked on water.
He walked on water.
He believed anything he did.
Right.
Right.
It was a very, very funny movie.
People should see it.
That's an excellent, excellent suggestion because that does nail it.
Chauncey Gardner.
And he's a streetwalker.
Yeah, he was a servant.
All he saw was what he watched on television.
He didn't know anything.
He got fired.
In fact, he was fascinated with television remote control.
Yeah, what happened was he was a servant to these wealthy people who passed away and he never was out of the house.
And he comes out and all he knows is what he's seen on television.
And he says these platitudes that don't mean anything.
And everybody thinks he's like a genius and they follow him and he becomes the president of the United States.
Yeah, it's like messianic.
Yeah, the movie was hysterical.
Other wealthy people bring him into their homes for the wisdom and the guidance that he's offering.
Excellent.
Absolutely.
Excellent suggestion, Jack.
Go out and rent it, buy it, whatever, being there with Peter Sellers.
We've also decided, folks, it's time since it looks like Obama.
Hillary got a clock clean.
I mean, there's just no way other than that to describe it.
It's not over.
Those legs are still not protruding from underneath the house.
And there's still a couple formulas whereby she can win.
But let me just go through this with you.
Here's what it's going to take.
For her to overcome Obama, for the pledged delegate lead, she's going to have to win 55% of the remaining delegates.
Assuming next week goes Obama's way in Wisconsin and Hawaii, that percentage will then rise to 57% of the delegates that she'll have to win.
If you toss in a likely Obama win in Vermont, Wyoming, Mississippi, Oregon, Montana, South Dakota, then the percentage of pledged delegates she will need after those primaries will top 60% of the remaining delegates available.
Of course, how does she do that?
How does she do it?
Now, I'm telling you, did you hear what Fast Eddie Rendell, a governor of Pennsylvania, said?
He went out there and he said, proving once again that real racism exists on the left in this country, he went out there and he said, and Big Clinton supporter, and effectively said, when you get down to brass tax, there aren't a lot of white people in this country going to vote for a black guy.
Fast Eddie Rindell, a governor of Pennsylvania.
It's actually, Eddie, don't call me Fast Eddie, Fast Eddie Rindell.
So he's out there.
Look, they're going to make a play for these delegates, unseated delegates in Michigan or Florida, super delegates.
And I got some thoughts on Chelsea coming up, too, because she's out there trying to horn in on those superdelegates and get them to vote for her mom.
And like I told you yesterday, if they have to, they will cause a riot.
Where is the Democrat Convention?
Is it in Denver?
They're going to cause a riot if they have to in order to win this nomination.
They're not going to let this thing slip away.
So you cannot say this is over for a long, long time.
But now that Obama has a 100-delegate lead, 102, I think, according to CBS, he's a player.
He's there.
And he's for the future.
I'm for the right now.
And for the right now, he has a theme song on this program.
Sammy Davis Jr., ladies and gentlemen, here on the EIB Network.
And our Barack Obama theme song for right now.
Who knows what the future will hold.
By the way, as for Fast Eddie Rendell, what he was really doing.
You know, when Fast Eddie goes out there and says, yeah, black people, I don't think white people are going to vote for black people.
He's telling white people not to vote for black people.
That's the message from the governor of Pennsylvania, Fast Eddie Rendell.
And of course, the Clintons don't get called on this stuff.
I mean, but this is again the playing of the race card, trying to start an uncivil war or to revive it.
This time they're not using Der Schlichtmeister, Bill Clinton.
They're using Fast Eddie Rendell, who used to, by the way, in the old veteran stadium, throw snowballs from his seat in the upper deck on the visiting players, particularly the Dallas Cowboys.
Now, let's see.
I better take a break here.
Otherwise, the next segment's going to be a little short.
Sit tight.
Lots more straight ahead plus your phone calls.
It'll go away.
From the candyman to hot chocolate.
That's the name of the group.
Everyone's a winner.
In the future.
With hope.
Nice to have you back, ladies and gentlemen.
By the way, yes, we talked about this at the beginning of the program, but Democrats once again bit the dust on the FISA bill yesterday, which contained a clause granting immunity to the telephone companies, telecommunications companies, who provided data to the president for its warrantless wirejap searching program.
Now, yesterday was an opportunity because of the Potomac primary.
The vote was yesterday in the Senate.
And we have three senators running for the presidency.
We have Senator McCain, we have Senator Obama, and we have Senator Hillary.
It would have been very easy for all three to take a couple minutes off the campaign, head over to Capitol Hill, cast your vote on the very serious issue of American security.
Two of the three did so.
Kudos to Senator McCain.
He made sure he was there while fighting off this pesky challenge from Governor Huckabee.
And he voted to preserve the powers of the intelligence agency and the executive branch to defend and protect this country.
Also, hats off to Senator Obama.
He showed up.
He voted.
He voted against it.
In so doing, he demonstrated he is not fit to lead this country as commander-in-chief.
He has voted against every reasonable authority that has come before him in the form of legislation in terms of intelligence and protecting this country.
But at least Obama showed up.
At least he voted.
At least he told the country he's incompetent.
Mrs. Clinton did not show up.
And remember, as my friend Andy McCarthy, at National Review Online, points out, Mrs. Clinton had a whole lot to say way back when about Obama's present votes in Illinois, correct?
And here she doesn't even show up to vote on the intelligence bill yesterday, the FISA bill.
It was a very important set of votes, perhaps as important a set of votes as there has been since she's been in the Senate.
They involved issues that go to the core of her fitness to be president, and she decided she had better things to do than her job.
She was in Texas, or at least en route to Texas, to make a speech last night, which was totally ignored what had happened in the Potomac primary.
Did not mention Obama, did not mention the vote.
Just ignore it.
It didn't happen.
Same way she dealt with the scandals inside the White House.
Now, Alex Koppelman at salon.com.
Headline, McCain targets Obama.
McCain doesn't seem to be betting very heavily on a Hillary Clinton comeback.
After McCain swept the Potomac primaries, he focused all his rhetorical fire on Obama.
Hope, my friends, is a powerful thing, McCain said.
I can attest to that better than many, for I've seen men's hopes tested in hard and cruel ways that few will ever experience.
To encourage a country with only rhetoric rather than sound and proven ideas that trust in the strength and courage of free people is not a promise of hope.
It's a platitude.
The crowd, apparently ready to look ahead to the general election, roared its approval at McCain's attack, which it'll be characterized, attack, on Obama.
And then he said something curious at the end.
My friends, I promise you, I'm fired up.
They're ready to go.
Now, he's either stealing that from Obama or me, because you might recall that yesterday I said, listen to Obama.
He tells his crowds, it's time to get fired up.
McCain told his crowds, calm down.
That was what I said yesterday.
McCain campaigned last night.
It's time to get fired up.
I'm ready to go.
Full speed, 360.
Back to the phone, Susan Louisville, Kentucky.
Nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
How are you doing?
Fine.
Thank you very much.
Okay, wonderful.
I have to share some history that you and I have in your child rearing with my children and other children in our neighborhood.
My husband's an infantry officer in the Marine Corps, and a couple years ago, while almost everybody on our block was deployed, he lived in company-grade housing in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.
You were the only male influence in a variety of young men's lives of our toddler sons.
There's a group of wives who used to sit out in our front yards, turn on Rush Limbaugh, and we joke that our husbands were gone, but all we had was Rush.
So I just want to let you know what a role you played.
Well, I'm flattered by that.
I feel very confident.
I'm very hopeful that your kids have a great future.
Well, thank you, Rush.
Obama is talking about change, and he says his head is not in the clouds.
I'm concerned that it's in a cloud of smoke.
And if you could do me a favor in a variety of military-wise out there, I'm wondering if you could touch a little bit on what Obama would do to the military if he is, in fact, voted into office.
Well, I think it's actually relatively easy to answer the question just based on Obama's speeches of late.
I think the U.S. military under the commander-in-chief Barack Obama will march into the future united, armed, with the hopes of the free world at their backs.
They will march forward into the future in harmony and with love and dreams for peace.
Well, we're concerned because we think my husband and I and a group of our friends who are all educated, who are all professionals in the military, we're concerned that when another attack does happen, and if Obama is elected, oh, it will, we're concerned that we will apologize, give the terrorists a hug, and sing Kumbaya.
Well, this is, if I may be serious, and I was giving you a typical Obama answer at first.
Look at your question is very serious.
Obama has already said that he's going to meet with the world's tyrants.
Obama has already said that he might invade Pakistan.
There is an excellent piece today, and I'm going to link to this.
Do you go to my website by any chance?
Yes, I do.
You do.
Yes.
All right.
By the way, is your husband still deployed or is he home?
He is actually home.
We are stationed here in Kentucky now.
He's stationed in Kentucky.
Okay.
There's a piece right, Leon Wieseltier today in the New Republic that just excoriates, and Wieseltier, you have to say it's liberal, excoriates Obama on the very thing you're talking about.
Wieseltier's point, and I didn't print it out because it's not something that you can excerpt.
I'd have to read the whole thing to you.
But I'll summarize it for you here.
It basically talks about the hotspots around the world where we are seriously threatened, from China to North Korea to Iraq to Iran to Pakistan to the Soviet Union to China.
He says China holds the fate of our economy in its hands because of all the dollars, all of the U.S. debt that they own, and that whatever China wants in the world, they get.
If they don't want to be part of Kyoto, the U.N. says, fine, fine, fine.
Well, you don't have to be part of Kyoto because everybody's scared to death that the CHICOMs, they're not going to take it.
You know, you cross them, you know, ask the Falun Gong.
Ask the Mongolians.
You know, ask any number of people.
You stand in front of one of their tanks, ask what happened.
They're not going to put up with any of this.
And his whole point is there is nobody less qualified, seeking the office to deal with all of this than Barack Obama.
And it's detectable by listening to him talk about these circumstances and these situations around the world.
And this goes beyond just what will happen to the military and how will he use it.
This goes even beyond that.
This goes to the very nature of what his foreign policy would be.
And it's based really on the fact that Wieseltier believes that naivete is just profound in Obama.
He actually believes that he can go meet with the tyrants and thugs of the world.
And by the very power and force of his personality and the desire for kumbaya, everybody to hold hands and he can talk the bad guys into being good guys, working for common purpose with the hopes and dreams of the world at their back.
And Weasel Tier says the world's a far more dangerous place, and we're at much greater risk in the world today than we were yesterday and the day before.
And Obama is just singularly unqualified to deal with it.
We will link to this at rushlimbaugh.com so that you can check it out.
Susan, hang on.
Don't go away.
I know.
Thank you, and welcome back.
Rush Limbaugh here, America's real anchor man, the truth detector and Doctor of Democracy, all combined here as one harmless, lovable little fuzzball.
Susan in Louisville, back to you.
I wanted to do something for you.
You were so nice with what you said at the beginning of your call, and your husband has served the country, and you were left with your kids and so forth with only me to help raise them, and that's actually a good thing.
But I want to do two things for you.
Thank you, Rush.
First thing I want to send you a whole bunch of flowers.
I mean, tomorrow's Valentine's Day.
I know your husband's probably going to do something, but I want to send you some flowers from ProFlower.
And I'm also going to do this.
Is that a young crumb cruncher in the background?
Rush, I'm pushing him full of MMs and said I'm on a very important phone call.
Oh, okay.
Pushing him full of MMs.
Good.
Yeah.
Next thing I'm going to do, this won't take long.
I want to give you and your husband a select comfort sleep number bed.
Oh, my God, Rush.
Let me give you a little history on that.
We just signed up for LifeLock because of you.
And that was my New Year's resolution.
It's the one that I kept.
And I was starting to save a little bit by a little bit to get one of those sleep number beds because I know they are so highly recommended.
Well, I knew that.
See, I sense these things.
My instincts, I never doubt.
So look at, we'll put you on hold, and we'll make all this happen down the road.
You're going to absolutely love the bed.
But you're very sweet.
And I don't think the country does enough for families like you.
Well, thank you, Rush.
And you make my life better daily.
My husband works half days every day, six to six, and I listen to you diligently every day.
Well, thanks very much.
And you give him all of our best.
Will you do that?
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you very much, Susan.
Back to the phones we go.
Andy in El Paso, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Oh, yeah, Rush.
This is Andy in El Paso, and I'd like to give you the University of Missouri Atrawa class of 83 dittos.
Thank you very much, sir.
What I plan on doing in the Texas open primary is voting for Obama because I'd like to return the favor to the Democrats for giving us John McCain by voting in our open primaries.
And I have four reasons that I plan on supporting Obama in the open primary.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
I want to understand.
I'm not sure.
You want to return the favor to the Democrats by forgiving us McCain by voting in open primaries.
What's the favor you're returning?
Democrats are...
Oh, I see.
Democrats...
I see Democrats have nominated McCain, as your theory, in the Republican primary as independents.
And so you want to have a role in what the Democrat primary is in Texas.
Absolutely.
The Republican primary is essentially over.
There's no reason for me as a lifelong Republican to vote for McCain or for, well, I wouldn't have voted for him.
You know, that happened in Virginia yesterday.
Some people, it's anecdotal, but emailed some people saying, look, there was no reason to vote on the Republican side.
It's been decided.
I voted for Obama.
Absolutely.
And I have four reasons why I want to do that.
Why?
The first is that it'll make the Clintons furious slash crazy that the vast right-wing conspiracy is hard at work against them again.
The second is that if I do have to have a Democratic president, I prefer someone who has, or whose primary principal accomplishment as a politician is to vote president.
I don't think Obama has nearly the skill to accomplish his or Hillary's agenda, which are essentially the same.
Hillary's much more capable of causing that agenda to be accomplished.
My third reason is that a president of Hillary Clinton will make J. Edgar Hoover look like an amateur.
The stack of FBI files that she had to use against people during her time as first lady will be nothing compared to what she'll be able to try to do to the conservative movement and what she'll do to advance her agenda.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you were singled out for selective prosecution.
You can imagine how miserable the government can make our lives when they're hard at work.
Oh, you know, speaking of that, and I've got a little audio coming up on this.
This is eerie to sit here and watch a congressional committee go after a private citizen, Roger Clemens, and then this trainer up there, Brian McNamee.
Now, I've followed this.
I understand what this is all about.
But I, you know, to paraphrase Bill Clinton, no hearing on steroids in baseball ever fed a hungry child.
I don't know what Clemens is doing there.
Has he lied to Congress before his deposition this week?
Or did they call him up there because of the Mitchell report?
And he went public and said the Mitchell report's not true.
So then Congress, we want to get in the act.
So I think that may be Congress's reason for wanting to get involved in this.
But this is, I don't know what, look, nobody recommends people take HDH or steroids, athletes, kids being influenced by it and all that.
But it's sort of like the Congress want to get involved in a New England Patriot spying on opposing teams.
I mean, the league's supposed to handle this kind of stuff.
It's really up to the league, but they can hold over the antitrust exemption over baseball.
We're going to remove it.
We're going to not give you that exemption anymore, so baseball has to cooperate and go up and do this dog and pony show.
The sad thing is, the sad thing is when you watch this, and I haven't watched a lot of it before because it started the meat of it got going about 10:30.
Henry Nostralitis Waxman is a committee chairman here, and he gave a long opening statement.
Clemens gave his statement, started answering questions, and the same thing with McNamari, about 10:30.
So I watched a little bit of it for an hour and a half while doing show prep here, getting ready for today's excursion into broadcast excellence.
And one of these two guys is lying.
And they're both under oath.
Somebody's life today has just been destroyed.
And I don't know who.
I haven't the slightest idea who to believe.
I haven't the slightest clue.
Now, I don't know what's happened since the program started today at noon Eastern.
But before that, it seemed to me that the Democrats on a committee were sort of siding with the trainer, McNamee, and really sticking it to Clemens.
You go to the Republicans, and they seem to be sticking it to the trainer and defending Clemens.
And I got two soundbites here.
Dan Burton is on this committee, Republican.
This soundbites 2627, Mike.
And in his session here, Dan Burton leads the trainer, Brian McNamee, down a list of his previous lies.
Burton says, Mr. McNamee, I'm going to read to you a series of prior statements attributed to you regarding steroid use or the lack thereof by Mr. Clemens or Mr. Pettit.
I never gave Clemens or Pettit steroids.
They never asked me for steroids.
The only thing they asked me for were vitamins.
That was William Sherman and T.J. Quinn, Andy Totes, baggage to Bronx, the New York Daily News, December 10th, 2006.
Did you say that Andy Pettit and Roger Clemens, you never gave them steroids?
Did you say all that?
Yes, I did.
Is that a lie?
Yes, it is.
Oh, it's another one.
Okay.
I told federal investigators twice that Roger and Andy had nothing to do with it.
Is that right?
Yes, sir.
Is that a lie?
Yes, sir.
Mr. McNamee, I'm going to read you a series of statements attributed to you regarding your involvement with steroids.
I don't have any dealings with steroids or amphetamines.
I don't buy it, sell it, condone it, or recommend it.
I don't make money from it.
It's not part of my livelihood and not part of my business.
Did you say that?
Yep.
That's a lie, right?
Partial.
Partial?
Partial lie.
McNamee pleads guilty to knowing the ins and outs of steroids, but says I have no involvement as far as supplying it, getting it, selling it, telling them to use it.
John Heyman, the sixth man, Clemens trainer, denies Link to Grimsley.
Is that a lie?
Yes, sir.
Then Burton unloaded.
This is really disgusting.
You're here as a sworn witness.
You're here to tell the truth.
You're here under oath, and yet we have lie after lie after lie after lie, where you've told this committee and the people of this country that Roger Clemens did things that I don't know what to believe.
I know one thing I don't believe, and that's you.
Roger Clemens is a titan in baseball.
And you, and with all these lies, if they're not true, are destroying him and his reputation.
Now, how does he get his reputation back if this is not true?
And how can we believe you?
Because you've lied and lied and lied and lied.
If he's done something wrong, he ought to be indicted.
He ought to be prosecuted, and he ought to be punished for it.
But I don't see any evidence of that so far.
And with that, I'll stop.
And at that point, Nostrilitis Waxman banged the gavel and said, the gentleman's time has expired.
That was Burton unloading, and the Republicans generally have been unloading on the, at least before noon, on the trainer McNamee.
Yeah, and the Democrats have been unloading on Clemens.
But I don't know.
Maybe some of you people are watching it out there.
I don't know who's telling the truth here.
McNamee has been confirmed to be telling the truth about two other people.
Andy Pettit, they've said, yeah, he told the truth about me to the Vitchell Report.
And I forget whoever else it was.
And so people are saying, well, why would he lie about Clemens?
Why would he make it up?
He's under, I mean, he cooperated with the Mitchell report with federal FBI agents, prosecutors, U.S. attorneys all over the place saying, you lie to us, pal, and it's behind bars for you.
His life is over anyway.
I mean, he's got a very ill child.
He's just, you know, these guys, I've seen so many of them.
They'll do anything to hang around athletes.
They will do anything to hang around jocks and sports.
It can destroy people.
The groupy aspect of it all, the celebrity attraction of it all.
I don't know if that's McNamee or not.
But one of these two guys is lying under oath brazenly.
I don't know how this ends good.
Quick timeout.
Back after this.
Stay with us.
Back to the phones we go now on the distinguished and respected and revered Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
This is Stephen in Jacksonville, Florida.
Hi, Stephen.
Hi, I'm a first-time caller, long-time listener.
I've been listening to you from on and off since November 88, shortly after you went nationwide.
Thank you, sir, very much.
I appreciate that.
Like you, I'm a conservative who refuses to vote for McCain.
And there's a lot of them out there from listening to you and Nashan and to other conservatives.
There's a whole batch of them out there.
And what I would like you to take a look at is another conservative rebellion that took place back in 1993 to the neighbor to the north, Canada.
And what happened was the Conservatives were really angry at the Progressive Conservative Party.
Now, that's kind of an oxymoron, progressive and conservative.
But anyway, they rebelled against their newly elected leader, Kim Campbell, who was elected to replace Brian Mulroney when Mulroney retired.
And so the Progressive Conservative Party split three ways.
The Quebecers went off and formed their own party, Bloc Quebecois.
And the Conservatives were so irritated and so angry that they went to a newly formed party called the Reform Party of Canada.
And what happened is the Progressive Conservatives split three ways.
And the Conservatives in the Reform Party did real well in that election.
In fact, they got more votes than the Progressive Conservative Party got in that election.
And that was the year that everybody remembers when the Progressive Conservatives went down from over 150 seats, a majority in the House of Commons, which, of course, is important because they elect who is Prime Minister.
So let me guess.
Where you're headed here is why don't we do that here?
Why don't we just stand up and say the Republican Party's given us the shaft?
It's left us.
It's time to form a third party and make it a conservative party.
At least for now.
Because what happened is the reformers stayed in their party until the progressive conservatives in 2003 said, okay, we give up.
We'll merge.
And the first thing they did was got rid of the progressive off the name of the party, and it became the conservative party.
How they do it up there?
Well, they're in a minority, but nobody can have a majority unless they win Quebec.
And that can't be done as long as Quebecois owns the election in Quebec.
So they now have the most seats in the House of Commons and have the government.
A reformer, former reformer, is now in as Prime Minister of Canada, and they're in the driver's seat now.
So we may have to rebel for a while, but the Republican Party needs to be told in living color that you don't put forth anybody other than a conservative because conservatives just will not go for them.
And I see all across the country Jim Dobson, people on your show, people on Sean's show, saying, we're not going to vote for McCain.
Okay, give us an alternative, a third-party alternative, and that way we can show exactly what we feel.
Now, there will be conservatives who are Kool-Aid drinkers, and they'll vote Republican just because it's a Republican.
But I used to be a staffer of the Republican Party, and I will not vote for McCain, even if the guy ran for dog catcher.
I would vote for his opponent just because, because I do not like McCain.
What did McCain do?
Wait, wait, wait, what do I know?
People need to hear this.
What did McCain do to you?
Okay, well, the first one is McCain Feingold.
That was the most anti-free speech piece of legislation that's ever come up.
Well, Peter II, the Anti-Sedition Act back in the 1800s was probably more of anti-free speech.
But people misunderstand about this.
Like, if there are drive-bys listening to you right now or others, they don't understand that the Chris Matthews of the world and all these other cable jockeys, they do not understand the passionate, almost personal dislike some people in our party have for John McCain.
They have no clue.
And even if you tell them to their face, they can't grasp it because they love him.
And they can't figure out what is so dislikable about Senator McCain to these people.
And what they forget is that we didn't start this.
We were minding our own business.
It was Senator McCain and some of his aides who really left the reservation and did so in a peak.
And because of South Carolina in 2000, you know, started taking pot shots at the party and so forth.
And, you know, the drive-bys, I think they think that the first thumb in the eye was at McCain.
I think it came from McCain.
But regardless, there is a lot of this sentiment out there.
I don't know how much it's going to hold up once we get to November.
Once we get to November, and we've got either Hillary or Obama on the other side of our vote, it's going to be interesting to see.
I mean, it's easy to say, and I'm not doubting you all.
Don't misunderstand.
Not doubting you, and I'm not predicting the future.
I just know that a lot of things can change, particularly emotionally, from now through November.
And I just wonder if some of this anti-McCain sentiment is going to hold up.
I suspect that it will.
I think this is genuine.
You're talking about a third party.
I understand the attraction.
I just have never believed in them.
I've just never, there have been so many attempts at them in this country, and they just don't go anywhere.
It may be time to think more seriously or in a different way about that.
But I haven't given it much thought until your phone call.
Now, as for my scenario, okay, we get down to November and we've got stark contrast.
I mean, there's McCain.
And let's say it's Hillary.
Let's say Hillary gets a nomination.
I'm thinking of voting for Hillary, thinking of endorsing Hillary, in fact.