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Feb. 13, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 13, 2008, Wednesday, Hour #2
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From Hyaton, the EIB building in Midtown Manhattan, I am your harmless, lovable little fuzzball, Rush Limbaugh, here at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Remember, my friends, as long as I'm here, it doesn't matter where here is.
Phone number if you want to join us, 800-282-2882, and the uh email address, L Rushbo at EIB net.com.
Um.
So we just played these four audio sound bites of Obama, and you just heard them, and basically he's about hope and the future.
Uh and of course, you know, everybody's well, who who's possibly against the future?
Well, I'm not necessarily against the future, but somebody's got to be for right now, and I am for right now.
If you don't pay attention to right now, then the future could be bad.
So I mean, we're all for the future.
I'm not necessarily against the future, but somebody gonna stand up for right now.
And I am the man to stand up for right now.
I want to grab a quick phone call because it sets up what's coming.
This is Jack in Boston.
Great to have you here.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Yeah, Rush.
I never would have thought that it would actually come true, but you remember the 1979 or 1980 movie being there with Peter Sellers.
Oh, yeah.
There was a character, Chauncey Gardner.
Now, the way people react to Chauncey Gardner is the same way people react to uh Barack Obama.
He didn't say anything.
He just talked about planting the truth the seeds and the will grow to the future and good.
And he and at the end of the movie, I think he like walked on water.
Right.
It was a very, very funny movie.
People should see it.
Being that that's an excellent, excellent suggestion, because that does nail it.
Chauncey Gardner.
Uh uh, and he just he's he's a street walker.
Yeah, he was a he was a servant.
All he saw was what he watched on television.
He didn't know anything.
He got fired.
He got in fact he he he was fascinated with television remote control.
Yeah, what happened was he was a servant to these wealthy people who passed away and he never was out of the house, and he comes out, and all he knows is what he's seen on television, and he says these platitudes that don't mean anything, and everybody thinks he's like a genius, and they follow him, and he becomes the president of the United States.
Yeah, just it's like messianic.
Yeah, we're hysterical.
Other wealthy people bring him into their how and their homes for the for the wisdom and the guidance that he's offering.
Excellent.
Absolutely excellent, uh, excellent suggestion, Jack.
Go out and rent it, buy it, whatever, being there uh with Peter Sellers.
We've also uh decided, folks, it's time, says it looks like Obama Hillary got a clock clean.
I mean, there's just no way other than that to describe it.
It's not over.
Those legs are still not protruding from underneath the house.
Uh and there's still a couple formulas whereby she can win.
But let me let me just go through this with you.
Here's what it's gonna take.
For her to overcome Obama for the pledged delegate lead, she's going to have to win 55% of the remaining delegates.
Assuming next week goes Obama's way in Wisconsin and Hawaii, that percentage will then rise to 57% of the delegates that she'll have to win.
If you toss in a likely Obama win in Vermont, uh Wyoming, Mississippi, Oregon, Montana, South Dakota, then the percentage of pledged delegates she will need after those primaries will top sixty percent of the remaining delegates available.
Of course, how does she do that?
How does she do it?
Now I'm telling you, did you hear what Fast Eddie Rendell, a governor of Pennsylvania said?
He went he went out there and he said, proving once again the real racism exists on the left in this country, he went out there and he said, and be big Clinton supporter, and if uh effectively said, when you get down to brass tax, a lot of white people in this country gonna vote for a black guy.
Fast Eddie Rendell, a governor of Pennsylvania.
It's it's actually Eddie, don't call me Fast Eddie, Fast Eddie Rendell.
Uh so he's out there that look they're gonna they're gonna make a play for these uh delegates, uh unseated delegates in Michigan and Florida, superdelegates, and but and I got some thoughts on Chelsea coming up too, because she's out there trying to horn in on those superdelegates and get them to vote for her mom.
Uh And I, like I told you yesterday, if they have to, they will cause a riot.
Where is the Democrat convention?
Is it in Denver?
They're going to cause a riot if they have to, in order to win this nomination.
They're not going to let this thing slip away, so you cannot say this is over for a long, long time.
But now that Obama has a 100-delegate lead, 102, I think, according to CBS, he's a player.
He's there.
And he's for the future.
I'm for the right now.
And for the right now, he has a theme song on this program.
Sammy Davis Jr., ladies and gentlemen, here on the EIB network.
And our Barack Obama theme song for right now.
Who knows what the future will hold.
By the way, as for Fast Eddie Rendell, what he was really doing, you know, when Fast Eddy goes out there and says, eh, black people, I don't think white people are going to vote for black people.
He's telling white people not to vote for black people.
That's the message from the Governor of Pennsylvania, Fast Eddie Rendell.
And of course, the Clintons don't get called on this stuff.
I mean, but this is again the playing of the race card, trying to start an uncivil war or to revive it.
This time they're not using Der Schlickmeister, Bill Clinton.
They're using Fast Eddie Rendell, who used to, by the way, in the old veteran stadium, throw snowballs from his seat in the upper deck on the visiting players.
Particularly the Dallas Cowboys.
Now, oh, let's see.
I better take a break here, otherwise the next segment's going to be a little short.
Sit tight, watch more straight ahead plus your phone calls, and don't go away.
From the Candyman to Hot Chocolate.
That's the name of the group.
Everyone's a winner.
In the future with hope.
Nice to have you back, ladies and gentlemen.
By the way, yes, we talked about this at the beginning of the program of Democrats once again bit the dust on the FISA bill yesterday, which contained a clause granting immunity to the telephone companies, telecommunications companies, who provided data to the president for its warrantless wire chap searching program.
Now, yesterday was an opportunity because of the Potomac primary.
The vote was yesterday in the Senate.
And we have three senators running for the presidents.
We have Senator McCain, we have Senator Obama, and we have Senator Hillary.
It would have been very easy for all three to take a couple minutes off the campaign.
Head over to Capitol Hill, cast your vote on the very serious issue of American security.
Two of the three did so.
Kudos to Senator McCain.
He made sure he was there while fighting off this pesky challenge from Governor Huckabee.
And he voted to preserve the powers of the intelligence agency and the executive branch to defend and protect this country.
Also, hats off to Senator Obama.
He showed up.
He voted.
He voted against it.
In so doing, he demonstrated he is not fit to lead this country as commander in chief.
He has voted against every reasonable authority that has come before him in the form of legislation in terms of intelligence and protecting this country.
But at least Obama showed up.
At least he voted.
At least he told the country he's incompetent.
Mrs. Clinton did not show up.
And remember, as my friend Andy McCarthy at National Review Online points out, Mrs. Clinton had a whole lot to say way back when about Obama's present votes in Illinois, correct?
And here she doesn't even show up to vote on the intelligence bill yesterday, the FISA bill.
It was a very important set of votes, perhaps as important a set of votes as there has been since she's been in the Senate.
They involved issues that go to the core of her fitness to Be president, and she decided she had better things to do than her job.
She was in Texas, or at least en route to Texas, to make a speech last night, which was totally ignored what had happened in the Potomac primary.
Did not mention Obama, did not mention the vote.
Just ignore it.
It didn't happen.
Same way she dealt with the scandals inside the White House.
Now, Alex Coppelman at Salon.com.
Headline, McCain targets Obama.
McCain doesn't seem to be betting very heavily on a Hillary Clinton comeback.
After McCain swept the Potomac primaries, he focused all his rhetorical fire on Obama.
Hope, my friends, is a powerful thing, McCain said.
I can attest to that better than many.
For I've seen men's hopes tested in hard and cruel ways that few will ever experience.
To encourage a country with only rhetoric rather than sound and proven ideas that trust in the strength and courage of free people is not a promise of hope.
It's a platitude.
The crowd, apparently ready to look ahead to the general election, roared its approval at McCain's attack, which it'll be characterized, attack on Obama.
And then he said something curious at the end.
My friends, I promise you.
I'm fired up.
I'm ready to go.
Now he's either stealing that from Obama or me.
Because you might recall that yesterday I said, listen to Obama.
Tells his crowds, it's time to get fired up.
McCain told his crowds, calm down.
That was what I said yesterday.
McCain campaign last night.
It's time to get fired up.
I'm ready to go.
Full speed.
360.
Back to the phone, Susan Louisville, Kentucky.
Nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hi, Rush, how are you doing?
Fine, thank you very much.
Okay.
Wonderful.
I have to share some history that you and I have in your child rearing with my children and other children in our neighborhood.
My husband's an infantry officer in the Marine Corps, and a couple years ago, um, while almost everybody on our block was deployed.
He lived in company grade housing in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.
You were the only male influence in a variety of young men's lives.
Of our toddler sons.
Uh there's a group of wives who used to sit out in our front yards, turn on Rush Limbaugh, and we joke that our husbands were gone, but all we had was rush.
So I just want to let you know uh what a role you played.
Well, I flattered by that.
I I feel very confident.
I'm very hopeful that your kids have a great future.
Well, thank you, Rush.
Well, um, Obama is talking about change, and uh he says his head is not in the clouds.
I'm concerned that it's in a cloud of smoke.
And if you could do me a favor and a variety of uh military wives out there, I'm wondering if you could touch a little bit on what Obama would do to the military if he is in fact voted into office.
Well, I uh I think it's actually relatively easy uh to answer the question just based on uh Obama's speeches uh of late.
Um I think the U.S. military under the commander-in-chief uh Barack Obama will march into the future united, armed uh with the hopes of the free world at their backs, they will march forward into the future in uh harmony and with love and dreams for peace.
Well, we're concerned because we think my husband and I and a group of our friends who are all educated, who are all professionals in the military, we're concerned that when another attack does happen, and if Obama is elected, oh it will.
We're concerned that we will apologize, give the terrorists a hug, and sing Kumbai off.
Well, this is if I may be serious, and I was giving you a typical Obama answer uh at first.
Look at your your question's very serious.
Obama has already said that he's going to meet with the world's tyrants.
Obama has already said that he might invade Pakistan.
There is an excellent piece today.
Uh, and I'm gonna I'm gonna link to this.
Do you you uh do you go to my website by any chance?
Yes, I do.
You do.
Yes.
All right.
Uh oh uh by the way, is your husband still deployed or is he home?
He is actually home.
We are stationed here in Kentucky now.
He's stationed in Kentucky.
Okay.
Um there's a piece right Leon Weaselteer today in in The New Republic that just excori and Weaselteer's have to say is liberal excoriates Obama on the very thing you're talking about.
Weasel Tears point, and I didn't print it out because it's it's uh that's it's not something that you can excerpt.
I'd have to read the whole thing to you.
Um but I'll summarize it for you here.
It basically talks about the hot spots around the world where we are seriously threatened from China to North Korea to Iraq to Iran to Pakistan, uh to the Soviet Union, to China.
Uh he says China holds the fate of our economy in its hands because of all the dollars, all of the U.S. debt that they own.
Uh and that whatever China wants in the world they get.
If they don't want to be part of Kyoto, the UN says, fine, fine, fine.
Well, you don't have to be part of Kyoto because everybody's scared to death that the Chicoms, they're not gonna take it.
You know, you you cross them, you know, ask, ask the Falloon gong.
Ask the Mongolians.
You know, ask any number of people.
You cr you stand in front of one of their tanks, ask what happens.
They're not gonna put up with any of this.
And his his whole point is there is nobody less qualified seeking the office to deal with all of this than Barack Obama.
And it's detectable by listening to him talk about these circumstances and these situations around the world.
And this goes beyond just you know what will happen to the military and how will he use it.
Uh this goes even beyond that.
This goes to the very nature of what his foreign policy would be.
Uh and and it's based really on the fact that the Weaselteer believes that naive naivete is just profound in Obama.
He actually believes that he can go meet with the thyrants and uh tyrants and thugs of the world, and by the very power and force of his personality, and the desire for Kumbaya, everybody to hold hands and he can talk the bad guys into being good guys, working for common purpose with the hopes and dreams of the world at their back.
Uh and Weaseltier says the world's a far more dangerous place, and we're at much greater risk in the world today than we were yesterday and the day before.
Uh and Obama just singularly unqualified to uh deal with it.
We will link to this at Rush Limbaugh.com so that you can um uh check it out.
You too and now Susan, hang on.
Don't don't go away.
I know.
Thank you, and welcome back.
Uh Rush Limbaugh here, America's real anchor man, a truth detector and Doctor of Democracy, all combined.
Here is one harmless, lovable little fuzzball.
Uh Susan uh Louisville, back to you.
I I wanted to I wanted to do something for you.
You were you're so nice with what you said at the beginning of your call, and and your husband has uh you know served the country and you were you were left with your kids and so forth with only me to help raise them, and that's actually a good thing.
Uh but I I I want to do two things for you.
Thank you, Rush.
I want first thing I want to send you a whole bunch of flowers.
I mean, tomorrow's Valentine's Day.
I know your husband's probably gonna do something, but I want to send you some flowers.
Uh, from from ProFlower.
And I'm also gonna do this.
Is that a is that a young crumb cruncher in the background?
Um, Rush, I'm pressing I'm I'm pushing them full of MMs.
And said I'm on a very important phone call.
Oh, okay, pushing him full of MMs.
Good.
Yeah.
Next thing I'm gonna do, this won't take long.
I'm gonna um I want to I want to give you and your husband a select comfort sleep number bed.
Oh my god, Rush.
Let me give you a little history on that.
We just signed up for LifeLock because of you.
And that was my New Year's resolution.
It's the one that I kept, and I was starting to save a little bit by a little bit to get one of those sleep number beds because I know they are so highly recommended.
Well, I knew that.
See, I I sense these things.
My instincts I never doubt.
So look at what put you on hold and we'll we'll uh we'll make all this happen uh down the road.
But this you're gonna you're you're you're gonna absolutely love the bed.
But you're just you're very sweet, and I don't I don't think the country does enough for families like you.
Well, thank you, Rush, and you make my life better daily.
My husband works half days every day, six to six, and I listen to you diligently every day.
Well, thanks very much, and you give him um uh all of our best.
Will you do that?
Okay.
Okay, thank you.
Very much, Susan.
Back to the phones we go.
Andy in El Paso, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Uh, yeah, Rush.
This is uh Andy in El Paso, and I'd like to give you University of Missouri at Raw a class of eighty-three Dittoes.
Thank you very much, sir.
What I what I plan on doing in the Texas open primary is voting for Obama because I'd like to return the favor to the Democrats for giving us John McCain by voting in our open primaries.
And I have four reasons that I plan on supporting Obama in the open primary.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
I want to understand.
I'm not sure I got you want to return the favor to the Democrats by by uh for giving us McCain by voting in open primaries.
What's the favor you're returning?
Democrats are Democrat I see Democrats have nominated McCain as your theory in the Republican primary as independence, and so you want to have a role in what the Democrat uh primary is in Texas.
Absolutely.
It's like the the Republican primary is essentially over.
There's no reason for me as a lifelong Republican to vote for McCain or for, well, I wouldn't have voted for him.
You know, that happened in Virginia uh yesterday.
Some people uh it's anecdotal, but email some people say, look, there was no reason to vote on the Republican side.
It's been decided.
I went I voted for Obama.
Absolutely, and I have four reasons why I want to do that.
Why?
The first is the first is that it'll make the Clintons furious flash crazy that the vast right wing conspiracy is hard at work against them again.
The second is that if I do have to have a Democratic president, I prefer someone who has or whose primary principal accomplishment as a politician is to vote present.
I don't think Obama has nearly the skill to accomplish his or Hillary's agenda, which are essentially the same.
Hillary's much more capable of causing that agenda to be accomplished.
My third reason is that a president Hillary Clinton will make Jagger Hoover look like an amateur.
The stack of FBI files that she had to use against people during her time as first lady will be nothing compared to what she'll be able to try to do to the conservative movement and what she'll do to advance her agenda.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you were singled out for selective prosecution.
You can imagine how miserable the government can make our lives when they're hard at work.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I'm speaking of that, uh, and I've I've got a little audio coming up on this.
This is this is eerie to sit here and watch a congressional committee go after a private citizen.
Roger Clemens, and then this trainer up there, Brian McNamee.
Now, I'm I've followed this.
I understand what this is all about, but I you know, to paraphrase Bill Clinton, no hearing on steroids in baseball ever fed a hungry child.
I don't know what Clemens is doing there.
Did he has he lied to Congress before his deposition this week?
Or did they call him up there because of the Mitchell report and he went public and said this the Mitchell report's not true, so then Congress said we want to get in the act.
So I think that that may be the Congress's reason for for wanting to get involved in this.
But this is I don't know what look, nobody recommends people take HGH or steroids, athletes, kids as being influenced by it and all that, but um it's it's sort of like the Congress wanting to get involved in a New England Patriots spying on opposing teams.
I mean, the league's supposed to handle this kind of stuff.
It's it's really up to the league, but they can hold over the antitrust exemption over baseball.
We're gonna remove it, we're gonna not give you that exemption anymore, so baseball has to uh cooperate and go up and do this uh this dog and pony show.
The sad thing is, the sad thing is when you watch this, and I I haven't I haven't uh you know watched a lot of it before because it started but the meat of it got going about 10 30.
Henry Nostralitis Waxman is a committee chairman here, uh, and he gave a long opening statement.
Uh Clemens gave his statement, started answering questions in the same thing with McNamy about 1030.
So I watched a little bit of it for an hour and a half uh while doing show prep here, getting ready for today's excursion uh into broadcast excellence.
And one of these two guys is lying, and they're both under oath.
Somebody's life today has just been destroyed.
And I don't know who.
I haven't the slightest idea who to believe.
I haven't the slightest clue.
Now I don't know what's happened since the program started today at noon Eastern.
But before that, it's sin it seemed to me that the Democrats On a committee were sort of siding with the trainer, McNamy.
And really sticking it to Clemens.
You go to the Republicans, and they seem to be sticking it to the trainer and defending Clemens.
And I got two sound bites here.
Dan Burton is on this committee, Republican.
This soundbite's 2627, Mike.
And uh in in uh in his session here, Dan Burton leads the trainer, Brian McNamy down a list of his previous lies.
Burton says, Mr. McNamy, I'm gonna read to you a series of prior statements attributed to you regarding steroid use or the lack thereof by Mr. Clemens or Mr. Pettit.
I never gave Clemens or Pettit steroids.
They never asked me for steroids.
The only thing they asked me for were vitamins.
That was William Sherman and TJ Quinn, Andy Totes, Baggage to Bronx, the New York Daily News, December 10th, 2006.
Did you say that Andy Pettett and Roger Clemens?
You never gave them steroids.
Did you say all that?
Yes, I did.
Is that a lie?
Yes, it is.
Oh, it's another one.
Okay.
I told federal investigators twice that uh Roger and Andy had nothing to do with it.
Is that right?
Yes, sir.
Is that a lie?
Yes, sir.
Mr. McNamy, I'm going to read you a series of statements attributed to you regarding your involvement with steroids.
I don't have any dealings with steroids or amphetamines.
I don't buy it, sell it, condone it, or recommend it.
I don't make money from it.
It's not part of my livelihood and not part of my business.
You say that?
Yep.
That's a lie, right?
Partial.
Partial?
Partially.
McNamy pleads guilty to knowing the ins and outs of steroids, but says I have no involvement as far as supplying it, getting it, selling it, telling them to use it.
John Heyman, the sixth man, Clemens Trainer denies Link to Grimsley.
Is that a lie?
Yes, sir.
Then Burton unloaded.
This is really disgusting.
You're here as a sworn witness.
You're here to tell the truth.
You're here under oath.
And yet we have lie after lie after lie after lie.
Where you've told this committee and the people of this country that uh Roger Clemens did things that I don't know what to believe.
I know one thing I don't believe, and that's you.
Roger Clemens is a titan in baseball.
And you and with all these lies, if they're not true, are destroying him and his reputation.
Now, how does he get his reputation back if this is not true?
And how can we believe you because you've lied and lied and lied and lied?
If he's done something wrong, he ought to be indicted.
He ought to be prosecuted, and he ought to be punished for it.
But I don't see any evidence of that so far.
And with that, I'll stop.
And at that point, nostrilitis waxman banged the gavel and said, the gentleman's time has expired.
But that's that was Burton on loading, and the Republicans generally have been unloading on the at least before noon on the trainer McNamee, the Democrat uh yeah, um, and the Democrats have been unloading on um on Clemens.
But I don't know, maybe some of you people are watching it out there.
I don't know who's telling the truth here.
I I the McNamy has been confirmed to be telling the truth about two other people.
Uh Andy Pettit, they've said, yeah, he told the truth about me to the Mitchell report, and I forget whoever else it was.
Um people say, well, why would he lie about Clemens?
Uh why would he make it up?
Uh he's under, I mean, he cooperated with the Mitchell report with federal FBI agents, prosecutors, U.S. attorneys all over the place saying, you lie to us, pal, and it's behind bars for you.
His life is over anyway.
I mean, he's his is uh he's got a very ill child.
He's just you know, these guys have seen so many of them, they'll do anything to hang around athletes.
They will do anything to hang around jocks and sports that just it can it can destroy people.
The groupy aspect of it all.
Um, the celebrity attraction of it all.
I don't know if that's McNamy or not.
Uh, but one of these two guys is lying under oath brazenly.
I don't know how this ends good.
Quick timeout, back after this.
Stay with us.
Back to the phones we go now.
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This is Stephen in Jacksonville, Florida.
Hi, Stephen.
Hi, I'm uh first-time caller, longtime listener.
I've been listening to you from on and off since uh November 88, uh uh shortly after you went nationwide.
Thank you, sir.
Very much I appreciate that.
Um like you, I'm uh a conservative who refuses to vote for McCain, and uh there's a lot of them out there uh from listening to you and Sean and to other conservatives.
Uh there's there's a whole batch of them out there.
And um what I would uh uh like you to take a look at is another conservative rebellion that took place back in 1993, uh to the neighbor to the north, Canada.
And what happened was uh the conservatives were really angry at the Progressive Conservative Party, uh now that's kind of an oxymoron, progressive and conservative.
But anyway, um they rebelled against uh their newly elected uh leader, Kim uh Campbell, who was elected to replace uh Brian Mulrooney was Mulroney uh retired.
And so the conservative progressive conservative party split three ways.
The Quebecers went off and formed their own party, Bloc Qua Becois, and uh the conservatives were so irritated and so angry that they went to a newly formed party called the Reform Party of Canada.
And what happened is the par uh the Progressive Conservatives split three ways.
Yes.
And uh the conservatives uh in the reform party um did real well in that election.
In fact, they got more votes than the Progressive Conservative Party got in that election.
And uh that was the year that uh everybody remembers when the Progressive Conservatives went down from over a hundred and fifty seats, a majority in the House of Commons, which of course uh is important because they elect who is prime minister.
So let me guess you're what where you're headed here is why don't we do that here?
Why don't we just why don't we just stand up and say the Republican Party's given us the shaft, it's left us, it's time to form a third party and make it a conservative party.
At least for now.
Because what happened is the reformers stayed in their party until the Progressive Conservatives in uh 2003 said, okay, we give up, we'll merge.
And the first thing they did was got rid of the progressive off the uh name of the party, and it became the Conservative Party.
Right, right, but how are they doing up there?
Well, they're uh in a uh well, they're in a minority, but nobody can have a majority unless they they win Quebec, and that can't be done as long as Quebec Wah owns the uh the election in Quebec.
So they now have the most seats in the House of uh Commons and have the government.
The a reformer, former reformer, is now in as Prime Minister of Canada, and they're in the driver's seat now.
So uh we may have to rebel for a while, uh but uh the Republican Party needs to be told in living color that you don't uh put forth anybody other than a conservative because conservatives just will not go for them.
Yeah.
And I see all across the country, uh Jim Dobson, uh people on your show, people on Sean's show, saying, We're not gonna vote for McCain.
Okay, give us an alternative, a third party alternative, and that way we can show exactly um what we feel.
Now there'll be conservatives who are Kool-Aid drinkers, and they'll vote Republican just because it's a Republican.
But uh I used to be a staffer of the Republican Party, and I will not vote for McCain, even if the guy ran for dog catcher.
I would vote for his opponent just because, because I do not like McCain.
Uh, what did McCain do?
Wait, wait, wait, well, what I know people need to hear this.
What did McCain do to you?
Okay, well, the first one is uh McCain Feingold.
Um that was the most anti-free speech uh piece of legislation that's ever come up.
Well, maybe the second, the anti-sedition act back in the eighteen hundreds uh was was probably more of anti-free speech.
Well, you know, but anyway, the but people misunderstand about this.
Like if if there are drive-by's listening to you right now, uh or others.
And they don't understand that the Chris Matthewses of the world and and uh you know all these other you know cable jockeys, they do not understand the uh passionate, almost personal uh dislike some people in our party have for John McCain.
They they have no clue, and even if you tell them to their face, they can't grasp it because they love him.
And they can't figure out what is so dislikable about Senator McCain to these people.
And what they forget is that we didn't start this.
Uh we were minding our own our own business.
It was it was Senator McCain and some of his aides who really left the reservation and did so in a peak and uh uh because of South Carolina in two thousand uh you know started taking pot shots at the party and so forth.
And um, you know, the drive-by's i I think they think that the first thumb in the eye uh was at McCain, I think it came from McCain.
But regardless, there is a lot of this sentiment uh out there.
I don't know how much it's gonna hold up once we get to November.
Once we get to November, and we've got either Hillary or Obama on the other side of our vote.
It's gonna be interesting to see.
It's I mean, it's easy to say, and I'm not doubting you all.
Don't misunderstand.
Not doubting you, and I'm not predicting the future.
I just know that a lot of things can change, particularly emotionally, uh, from now through uh November.
And I just wonder if some of this anti-mccain sediment is is gonna hold up.
I suspect that it will.
I think this is genuine.
You're talking about a third party.
I understand the attraction.
I just have never believed in them.
I've just never that there have been so many attempts at them uh in this country, and they just they just don't go anywhere.
Uh it may be time to think more seriously or in a different way about that.
Uh but I haven't given it much thought until your phone call.
Now, as as for my scenario, okay, we get down to November.
And we've got stark contrast.
I mean, there's McCain, and let's say it's Hillary.
Let's say Hillary gets a nomination.
I'm I'm thinking of voting for Hillary, thinking of endorsing Hillary.
Uh, in fact.
John McCain said she'd be a fine president.
Uh, where's the time going today?
Second hour is already fini.
Total la completa.
A little Spanish lingo there.
We got another hour to go, though, get started right after this.
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