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Feb. 7, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 7, 2008, Thursday, Hour #2
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Ha, how are you?
Welcome back, Rush Limbaugh.
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Been watching and listening to more of Mitt Romney's speech.
And I, you know, I ask again, what is it about, and he's going to get out.
We got a note from his campaign during the break, too.
All this stuff is true.
He's going to suspend and get out of the race.
This is a fabulous, fabulous speech he's giving.
He's going down the list of the problems we face and what we need to do to fix them.
Now, I haven't heard every Mitt Romney speech.
And I don't know if this is stump speech or if this is the things that he's saying in a new way today, but it just strikes me again how people, when they quit something or when they, I don't like the term quit, but when they decide to get out of something and they announce it, someday that's the best speech you ever hear them give.
We've often thought this of concession speeches with presidential candidates and so forth.
And we often ask ourselves, where was this during the campaign?
And I guarantee you, the audience at CPAC, there's 6,000 of them in there listening to this when Mitt the speech he's giving is really tremendous and he's going to end it by saying, I'm quitting.
I'm getting out of the race.
And people are going, why?
There we at.
Okay, so he just said why.
He just, for the good of the party and the good of the country, he's retiring from the race.
That's what he said.
For the good of the party and for the good of the race, he's yeah, I was with him up until that point.
Now I'm lost.
I just, well, well, well, it is what it is.
So he's made it official, getting out for the good of the party and for the good of the presidential race.
I want to take you back to the previous hour.
And I want to tell you again something that I said if you missed it.
I went through another brilliant analysis monologue where the Republican Party finds itself today and why.
One of the things that I, one of the points I mentioned is everybody's dumping on talk radio for destroying this party or for destroying the good time ahead.
Everybody says it's up to talk radio.
It's up to the conservative grassroots.
It's up to all of us to put aside our principles, compromise them, and join the majority in the party, the so-called majority in the party, so that we can all bask in electoral victory in November.
It isn't up to us, folks.
It is up to John McCain to demonstrate leadership, not to browbeat people into following him out of fear or loathing of Hillary Clinton.
That already exists.
We already fear, we already loathe, well, some fear, I don't, but a lot of people do fear and loathe Hillary.
And by the way, it may not be Hillary.
It may be Obama where fear and loathing are not relevant.
Ain't going to work.
You can't use that to drum up support.
Leadership is more than being the anti-Hillary.
That's the minimum.
And all of our candidates fit that bill.
A leader is someone who, by his own convictions personally and his personality and his vision can unite a party, unite a movement, unite a country behind him.
It's not up to me.
It's not up to you.
It's not up to anybody else.
It's up to the candidate.
These talking point op-eds and editorials are no substitute for the candidate demonstrating leadership.
Carl Rove.
The reason I wanted to repeat this to you, Carl Rove, was on the Fox News channel earlier this afternoon.
Jane Skinner asked him a question.
And the question was: This: Some have suggested that there is potential that the Romney campaign will be powered by this talk show host Rush Limbaugh situation, a suggestion that there was still a chance for En-ROADS, yet it was still close to a mathematical impossibility.
How would you frame that, Mr. Rove?
It is true.
People like Rush Limbaugh have a big sway among voters and among Republicans, but candidates have to deliver the message.
And at the end of the day, voters make a decision, not simply on the basis of no matter how persuasive the argument is by a talk radio person like Rush, but on the basis of candidates themselves and how they're delivering their messages.
Amen.
That's exactly what's what I just said in the last hour.
Amen.
It is not about us, folks.
You know, the idea here that this is all about talk radio, which is what the Drive by Media template is, it's not about me.
It's not about any other single person.
The same people in Washington and New York who like to write op-eds and editorials to themselves to show how smart they are and how in touch they are, they're missing what's going on.
I don't control the disaffection conservatives are feeling for the Republican Party and Washington generally.
This isn't some manufactured view that's turned on or off by me in people.
It's the result of years of contempt for the grassroots, years of neglect.
Rove has it exactly right here.
Yeah, we have some sway, but candidates have to deliver the message.
And by the end of the day, no matter how persuasive the argument is by talk radio people like Rush, elections are decided on the basis of the candidates themselves and how they deliver their messages, which is why all of these advice op-eds today that you can find advising McCain what to say, how not to blow it, speaking to the Conservative Political Action Committee.
Speaking of Senator McCain, a soundbite from yesterday afternoon, we go to the top here, Mike.
He had a presser and an unidentified reporter said, could Rush Limbaugh and John Hannity hurt your chances in November?
By the way, I just want this is the third or fourth day in a row here where most of the soundbites we have mention me.
And I just want you to know from the bottom of my heart, that's not why I'm playing these things.
I'm not controlling this.
I don't have PR agents put my name out there.
None of this is happening.
The reason I'm playing these soundbites for you is so you can hear the people speaking.
The question is the question.
Anyway, McCain is asked by this reporter, could Limbaugh and Hannity hurt your chances if they keep up their anti-McCain crusade beyond the point that you secure the nomination?
I do hope that at some point we would just calm down a little bit and see if there's areas that we can agree on for the good of the party and for the good of the country.
I haven't responded to any of it, as you know, and won't, but I think it might be a good idea if we think they've made their case against me pretty eloquently, if that's the right word.
I think they've made their case against me, and I think the majority of Republicans across the board have stated their view.
And so I hope that maybe we can now join together for the good of the party and the good of the conservative cause.
So we've got to calm down.
That's what you say to six-year-olds.
At some point, we would just calm down a little bit, see if there's areas we can agree on for the good of the party.
I'm going to become a broken record here.
Some of you may say, why are you keeping up this drumbeat, Rush?
Well, you've heard people say they do things because they care.
Well, I care.
For one thing, I care about the country, and I care about conservatism, and I do care, strangely enough, about the Republican Party.
And I'm really worried about what's going to happen to it.
The Republican Party, for good or bad, happens to be the home of conservatism right now.
And the Republican Party is doing its best to marginalize conservatives and their influence, hence all these attacks on talk radio and talk radio hosts and so forth.
I'm just caring.
I care.
Ladies and gentlemen, doing what I can here to let people know what I think the future holds if we don't get these three legs of the conservative stool back and firmly established and not watered down and sawed off and make room for others who are not conservative in the party.
Brief timeout.
Your phone calls are next.
Sit tight.
We'll be right back.
Okay, we have the soundbite here from Mitt Romney announcing why he is suspending his campaign.
I'm going to have to check on this.
I'm not sure about this, but it could be largely going to, I think, depend on state rules.
But when you suspend your campaign, you may, in certain states, be able to hold on to your delegates.
If you quit the race, you can't.
He didn't endorse anybody today.
And for that matter, neither has Fred Thompson.
But here's about a minute, 19 seconds of Mitt Romney announcing why he's suspended today.
I disagree with Senator McCain on a number of issues, as you know, but I agree with him.
But I agree with him on doing whatever it takes to be successful in Iraq and finding and executing Osama bin Laden.
And I agree with him on eliminating al-Qaeda and terror worldwide.
Now, if I fight on my campaign all the way to the convention, I want you to know, I'm giving this a lot of thought, I'd forestall the launch of a national campaign.
And frankly, I'd be making it easier for Senator Clinton or Obama to win.
Frankly, in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror.
This isn't an easy decision.
I hate to lose.
My family, my friends, you, my supporters across the country, you've given a great deal to get me where I have a shot to becoming president.
If this were only about me, I'd go on.
But it's never been only about me.
I entered this race.
I entered this race because I love America.
And because I love America in this time of war, I feel I have to now stand aside for our party and for our country.
Okay, there you have it.
So he's standing aside.
He's suspending the campaign so that the Republicans will have enough lead time to prepare a successful campaign against either Hillary or Obama because he is not confident that they will continue the task of the war on terror and defeat Islamic jihadists.
And he did say that he and McCain, even though they disagree on things, they do disagree on that.
So now what's going to happen is all of us, okay, who's the conservative alter?
You got to go to Huckabee now, Rush?
There is no conservative alternative in the race.
It's just that simple.
Let's go to the phones.
People have been patiently waiting.
It's Chicago first.
Jim, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
How are you, Rush?
Fine, sir.
Thank you.
You know, since yesterday afternoon when that woman called, I've been fuming, and I really didn't, as I was sitting here, I was trying to figure out what it is that's been bothering me about the show yesterday and all today.
Wait, wait, You're talking about Suzanne from Hagerstown, Maryland.
Yeah.
Yeah, the one everybody reacted favorably to.
Yeah, well, I didn't have a favorable reaction, and I couldn't figure out what it was, and all last night it's bothering.
And I even got on the phone today just because it's been bothering me, and I couldn't figure out really how to put it in words.
And then listening to you in this last hour and listening to what just with Romney, I figured out what it is.
Where's the optimism here?
You know, yesterday I heard you, I mean, yeah, I don't listen to you.
I don't listen to you so you can tell me where to go.
I already know where to go.
Conservatives don't.
I mean, I'm not surprised that the party doesn't want us.
The party has never wanted us.
The party didn't want us to turn Ronald Reagan.
The party didn't want us to turn George Bush.
The party never wants us, Rush.
The media is always beating us up.
What's been bothering me the last two days is I heard you actually say for the first time yesterday that for eight years we have accomplished nothing.
And I've got to disagree.
I mean, if Gore or the Democrats were in charge of this country on 9-11, I just, I pray to God every day.
No, no, no, wait, wait.
You're close.
I was reading an email from someone who was equally upset as the woman from Hagerstown, Maryland, who said he could not believe that with a Republican president and a Republican Congress for eight years, so little got done in terms of advancing conservatism.
Well, yeah, but see, and there I'm going to go, too.
We got a lot.
We really accomplished a lot in the last eight years.
I mean, there are things tax-wise, family-wise, partial aborts, partial birth abortions, homosexual marriage we stood up for, I mean, stood up against the tax code.
There's a litany of things that we have accomplished.
And yeah, of course, right now, with no leadership, we never really had a presidential candidate in this race.
It's not like Ronald Reagan was running and we lost in the primary.
I think personally that when George Allen lost, I think we weren't ready to put it.
We didn't have a candidate to have in this race.
And I think for us right now to say, oh, there goes Rodney.
Well, Rodney was never somebody that we all got behind.
I mean, he was nobody we followed for the last two years, hoping that he would come in.
The fact is, is that we were left kind of high and dry because we didn't have a candidate.
But, you know, no one's saying we're going to give up.
Everybody realizes that the base is out there, that we're not going to, we don't listen to the Republican.
No, that's the whole point.
That's what I've been trying to talk about the last day.
Of course we're not going to give up.
The pressure is being brought to bear on us to give up, compromise, and join the other guys.
But they always party for us, Rush.
They're always asking us to do that, and we don't do it.
But I don't listen to you for negativity.
I listen to you for a positive look on what we're supposed to do.
I don't need to hear this woman call and say we've got nothing.
That's crap.
We got a lot.
We believe in a lot of things.
The woman's primary mission in her phone call was to explain why she would never vote for McCain.
Fine.
And in fact, if she thought McCain was going to get close to winning, she'd vote Hillary.
Well, you know, that's fine.
That was the impetus and the theme of her call.
The impetus behind her, of course, eight years ago, she wasn't bashing Bush.
Well, I'm just saying, I actually heard you say we haven't gotten anything.
We got an excrement sandwich for eight years.
And that really depressed.
I mean, that's when I really kind of, and believe me, I'm from Illinois.
Obama's a lot worse than what we.
I mean, I'm just trying to tell you.
I don't care what that woman does.
All I'm saying is, the fact is, we are, as the base of the Republican Party, we have accomplished a lot.
We have moved a long way since 1980.
We took this, we were actually a majority in this country not five years ago.
So for us to sit here and act as though we're in this basement, we're a bunch of, you know, that we're being stepped all over, all we've got to do is pick up, find somebody to get behind, and get our stuff back in there.
That's all.
This is not going to be that difficult.
We have come a long way since 1980.
Or since you've been in the middle of the day.
But I know.
Don't you.
There's this story today in the New York Times that women don't like men who yell.
Well, I'm sorry.
No, you're not.
I'm talking about me.
Oh, yell.
But it's precisely because that we have made strides.
We could have made a lot more, but we have made strides that the point to which we've arrived now is stop.
We're not going to make those strides anymore.
We're going to go in a whole different direction.
Oh, we're not going to allow that to happen, and you know that.
What?
We're not going to pull the wool all over our eyes and say, well, this is what we have to do.
You know, he's got to listen to us.
John McCain's out there.
He hears it every day.
You don't.
We're not listening to you.
You speak for what we believe in.
That's the reason why you're popular.
That's the reason why we listen to you.
You don't put it into our words into our mouth.
Yes.
Plus, it's a good show.
Oh, it's a great show.
You can't leave that out.
It's a great show.
But that's why I was saying.
All right, well, okay, you keep talking about optimism.
And, you know, I'm the eternal optimist, and I get grief on this program for being optimistic because people think I'm avoiding reality.
But you're not.
I know.
What are you optimistic about?
Specifically with the, you know, it's obviously McCain.
Now, what are you optimistic about?
Well, the one thing I'm optimistic about is the war in Iraq.
I think that, you know, what we have allowed the Democrats to walk away from the fact that they say we lost this thing.
I mean, for us focusing on a bunch of, you know, the liberal tendencies and the immigration thing, the fact that these guys were wrong on the war.
These guys should be taken to the, we should take them to the woodshed.
Cool.
Who has been doing that?
Yes, but I want to keep the money.
No, no, no.
Don't say yes.
Who's been doing right?
Wait a second.
Has any Republican in Washington been talking about attacking the Democrats as you guys are engaged in defeat?
You're trying to defeat this country.
You're trying to make this country.
No.
Nobody has.
So, you know, this is one of the points I'm trying to make here.
When you look at where the leadership is, it's not where it should be.
And I've said this consistently over and over.
There has not been any effective conservative leadership.
There is trepidation and fear inside the beltway among Republicans for whatever reason.
We've been through this over and over again in terms of why they don't engage the battle and so forth.
Look, I appreciate the call out there, Jimbo.
I have a break here I can't miss.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
A man, a living legend, a national treasure, Nobel Peace Prize nominee, a way of life.
Well, you know, this may change the whole equation for Senator McCain's address before the conservative political action conference this afternoon, CPAC, where Mitt Romney just spoke, because Romney just suspended his campaign.
I think he probably will in some states be able to hold on to the delegates.
He didn't endorse any, but I think what happened was he just looks forward.
He says, this is impossible in the delegate count.
It just have to run the table to overcome this.
And probably just made a realistic decision on the basis of that and finances and a number of other things.
But now, you know, McCain, I mean, what does it matter what he says at C-SPAC?
I mean, it matters a little bit, but if he wanted to, McCain could walk in there and say, all right, I showed up.
Screw you!
She!
And leave.
Where else are you going to go?
Huckabee!
Ha!
Don't make me laugh!
Sorry, folks.
I just like doing my McCain impersonation.
Yes.
Alan in suburban Philadelphia.
It's nice to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Right-thinking dittos, Rush Harry.
Thank you, sir, very much.
or should I say, irrelevant right-thinking dittos.
Funny how someone who's so irrelevant, the drive-by scene, they like to talk about you all the time, but...
But anyways, first, let me just say that I think Mitt Romney's withdrawal proves that he is a good businessman, if nothing else.
He realized he wasn't going to win, so why throw away all that money?
I think we'll see him again.
Yeah, he could stay active in a number of ways.
He could run for the Senate against the haughty John Kerry in Massachusetts if he chose to, for example.
Now, the reason I called, though, I just wanted to say that for a few days I was toying with the idea of either sitting out the presidential election or voting for a third-party candidate if McCain does win the nomination, which now, of course, looks like a lock.
But I think I've come to my senses.
First, I can never vote for a Democrat.
I'm sorry to say I have voted for two Democrats in my life, and I regret both votes.
One was Patrick Moynihan, and the other was Arlen Specter.
But seriously, though, if Hillary wins the Democrat nomination, there is no way I can't do everything in my power to defeat her, even if it is only my one vote.
I understand the thinking that in the long run, it may work out better to let a Democrat mess up the country as opposed to a Republican.
But the idea of Bill and Hillary's smug satisfaction after moving back into the White House is really just too much for me to take.
I hope it doesn't make me shallow.
I just can't handle the idea of Hillary winning.
Now, if Obama wins, I will definitely vote a third-party ticket, though.
You see, Limbo, this.
This is why.
I don't need you.
Because I hate Hillary.
They're going to vote for me no matter what.
Even if it means voting against her.
So I'm not worried, Limbo, about you or any of your other people.
See?
Scary, but scary, but that's what they're relying on.
I'm telling you, that's what the Republican Party is relying on.
They're relying on guys like you who are at all costs going to go out there and try to defeat Hillary, which I totally understand.
I'm just thinking there's such a chance for leadership here.
You know, optimism is not being clouded by reality.
And, you know, optimism is not false reality and so forth.
And, you know, you play the hand you have, you deal the cards and play the deck that you have play the card, the hand that you have, and that's what you're going to do.
Well, absolutely, too.
What's our alternative?
You know, McCain is obviously McCain, obviously no friend of the Republicans, but, you know, it's a little lesser.
McCain's a big friend of Republicans.
Well, maybe the left wing of the party.
He is exactly right.
But I don't know.
Again, I hope it doesn't make me shallow.
I know that we've got a long ways to go, but.
Don't worry about what people think of you.
Well, no, that's not.
You're going to don't care.
Go do what you're going to do.
Do it.
Follow your gut.
That's my gut.
Conviction and don't worry about what people think of you.
The idea of nature.
If we had more people that didn't worry about what people thought of them, we wouldn't have Republicans in such a damn defensive posture all the time.
Don't worry about what people think of you.
You know, it's talked about this today, but it's not a guarantee anymore that Hillary is going to be the nominee.
There's real trouble out there.
She's out of money.
Obama brought in 30 million while she had to lend herself $5 million.
These next states coming up are Obama states, and what did I do with this?
I just printed.
I'll have to print it out again.
I got so many stacks and so many pieces of paper here.
Ah, here it is.
White males.
This is New House news.
White males are holding the balance of power in the Democrat primaries and caucuses.
As I've always seen, all this talk about the female vote, all this talk about the ethnic vote, and all this talk.
White males are holding the balance of power in the Democrat primaries and the caucuses.
This year, for the first time, the Democrat Party will nominate a candidate for president who is not a white male, but the results from Super Tuesday contests, coast to coast, suggest that white males, like a sovereign who gets to name his successor, may be the decisive swing vote in this historic battle between Obama, a black man, and Hillary, a white woman.
While the results fluctuated wildly state to state, it appears that Obama narrowly won the white male vote in battling Hillary to a Super Tuesday draw.
Indeed, white males are holding the balance of power in the Democrat primaries and caucuses, said David Redlosk, University of Iowa political scientist, elected a John Edwards delegate in his state's cauckey and has written about the intersection of gender and politics.
White males are playing a fairly important role.
A dirty little secret is they always have.
They always do.
Since the New Hampshire primary, white women have been consistently siding with Clinton.
They represent a disproportionate share of the Democrat electorate because they're both more likely to be Democrats and more likely to vote.
Black voters backing Obama in numbers trending toward the unanimous.
So, you know, this, if it's, yeah, but if here, well, you don't have a white guy for the first time in history, there's no white guy running on the Democrat side.
So you got the black guy and the white girl.
You got the black guy, the ex-wife, and you've got white men trying to figure out, oh, what the hell do we do?
Most of these white guys have been neutered.
You know, they've been feminized because they're Democrat liberals.
You know, think Alan Alden, Michael Kinsley.
They're looking here and they're just, they're conflicted as hell.
You know, the temptation here to go with Obama will assuage them of their white guilt.
But going with Hillary will show that they are genuine feminists.
What are they to do?
What will be the determining factor as far as how these guys go?
The bottom line is, it may not be Hillary.
So there may not be fear and loathing that Republicans or McCain can rely on here.
It may be just the opposite.
We may be dealing with somebody who gets a nomination because a bunch of Democrats think he's the reincarnation of JFK.
But regardless, you're not going to be able to gin up fear and loathing of this guy.
He doesn't exude a personality that makes you dislike him.
He doesn't exude a personality that makes you fear him.
And he doesn't talk enough about his policies to make you fear those.
So fear and loathing, I mean, if he gets a nomination, any Republican is going to be handcuffed here in terms of how to deal with it.
You know, if Obama gets it, you're going to have an age contrast.
I can't help admit.
You're going to have an age contrast.
You're going to have a generational contest pass the torch.
New generation.
They can't, if these people on our side are going to rely on this anti-Hillary loathing, then you better do what you can to ensure she gets the Democrat nomination.
In fact, that has made me, I have seriously been considering, we've done this before, there's precedent.
When the Democrat National Committee threw Carl McCall overboard, when he was running for governor, first black guy to run for governor of New York, and they abandoned him, and they didn't give him any money, we fundraised.
I asked you in this audience to send him a buck.
And some of you did.
He got a considerable amount of money.
And New York Daily News had a columnist, black, what was her name, S-H-I-P-P Ship.
I'm having a middle block in her.
Who?
Yeah, E.R. Ship.
And she wrote a piece how embarrassing it was that Rush Limbaugh's listeners were donating to Carl McCall's campaign.
Now, it's obvious that the Republican Party wants Hillary because they want to use the fear and loathing to unite the party rather than leadership from within the party.
Am I safe in saying this?
I think I am.
And a guy from Philadelphia just illustrated a, well, we want the fear and loathing of Hillary to unite the party rather than leadership from the party.
Therefore, might it be required, ladies, and she's having to loan herself money.
Do you think I should conduct a fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton?
So that the Republican Party, I mean, Mitt did his part today.
He got out so as not to fracture the party any further and not to harm the effort to win the war in Iraq.
Should I do my part, not by joining my liberal friends in the Republican Party, but actually raising money for Mrs. Clinton so that she wouldn't, and all of you didn't ask you to join me, so that she would have a chance here to once again have a good shot at getting a Democrat nomination so that we win the White House.
Well, but I didn't raise money for Howard Dean.
I know I endorsed Howard Dean, but I didn't raise any money for him.
I'm not talking about endorsing Hillary.
I'm talking about raising money for her because apparently the Republican strategy is relying on fear and loathing of Hillary to unite everybody.
If she's not the nominee, that's out the window.
All right, folks, I need to ask you a question, personal question from me to you.
Do I sound like I need cheering up here?
I'm getting emails from France.
Boy, you sound like you're usually cheering up.
And they're sending me stupid little internet jokes for you to smile.
I'd have an like an internet joke would cheer me up.
Spam would cheer me up.
But do I sound like I need to be cheered up?
I can't wait till the drive-bys get hold of my promise or my, not my promise.
I can't wait till the drive-bys get hold of my thought, my consideration of helping Hillary raise money.
You know, they'll miss the reason.
They'll just publicize, Limbaugh is so upset at Romney getting out, he's thinking of raising money for Hillary.
Period.
But the reason for raising money for Hillary is because apparently my party is relying on fear and loathing of Hillary to get the nomination to unite Republicans, who are some of them off the reservation.
They're not requiring, they're not, don't seem to, Republicans do not seem to be relying on leadership in their party to unite the party.
They seem to be relying on all these external things.
Nobody's going to vote for Hillary.
That negative turnout factor.
What if she's not the nominee?
We've got to make sure she's a nominee if the Republican Party is to be unified.
What more loyal thing could I do than to run a fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton?
You watch, though.
You watch how that'll be questioned.
Jane in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Good afternoon, Rush.
Hi.
Good to talk to you.
Meggie Ditto is.
Thank you.
Longtime listener.
I even went to your show in New York one time.
Oh, that was a good.
I'll bet you had a great time at that.
I did.
And afterwards, we went to Patsy's for dinner, and you were there.
Yeah.
I was following you around that night.
Those are good old days.
Those are good old days.
I called him to tell you that McCain, I don't go through all the reasons why I didn't want to vote for McCain or I wouldn't have voted for McCain or why I dislike him.
We all know that.
It's been repeated over and over again.
But I was listening to you talk before on where the Republican Party is moving to, from the conservative to the more moderates or the more liberals.
And we watched the Democratic Party do the same thing.
There used to be people like Sam Nunn and that lovely man with a southern accent.
I can't think of his name from down south that was so well spoken in the Democratic Party.
Now the Democratic Party, no matter who you run, they're all the same.
We had a difference in our party running.
Well, there's one exception, and that's Joe Lieberman, except they've run him out of the party for all intents and purposes.
He's in Canada now.
And then Zell Miller, you know, they've.
Zell Miller, that's who I was trying to think.
They made him out to be a kook and a nut now.
But we have all these moderates or liberal, I'm going to say liberal, they're not even moderate, like Specter from my state and Olympia Snow and all these New Englanders that are definitely liberal.
They're not just moderates, they're liberals.
And what they're trying to do is drag the party, and then we'll all be the same.
Do we want to all be the same?
I'm going to stand by my conservative principles till I die.
Good for you.
And whatever it takes.
And I want to tell you something.
I never realized how many things I could get done with the phone in my ear.
I've been on the phone for a while.
What have you been doing?
I thought you sounded a little bit distracted, but I just thought it was nervousness actually speaking in this.
No, no, I've been on the cell phone.
I've been on this phone for almost two hours, and I can't believe all the things I accomplished.
Oh, I said you were on hold that long.
I see.
All right.
Well, look, I appreciate the call.
Thanks very much.
Gonna stick to the tried and true principles.
Interesting point.
Both parties moving in the same direction.
Well, the Democrats kind of holding where they are.
They're drifting further to the commie side and a much of their kookville.
But there are Republicans moving in that direction.
You know, they want the party to go more to that direction.
There's no question of the governing class.
They'll just switch parties now and then in terms of who's in power.
John in Columbus, Ohio.
Nice to have you on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hi, sir.
Megadittos, Mr. Rush.
How are you today?
Fine, sir.
Thank you very much.
My question is, I'm a conservative in Ohio, now a blue state, I guess, since Mr. Strickland won, and Sharon Brown took over for the lying Mr. Dwine.
He's a liberal.
Since we've lost this election cycle, who do we look forward to in the next?
Since we've lost this election cycle, we haven't lost it yet.
Well, conservative-wise, we have, because there's no difference between McCain and Hillary or Obama.
As of today, that's true.
I don't know what's going to happen down the road.
One thing I don't do is assume in February that things today are going to be like they are in November.
I just don't.
Do you realize how much could happen between now?
I don't even want to go through all the possibilities.
But this is what you want me to be realistic in pessimism.
So, okay, we're cooked.
We're doomed.
What do we look forward to?
And I'm not prepared to go there yet.
Because what we look forward to is what we always look forward to.
And that is being who we are and attempting to change our culture as best we can, stand up for our values and empower them wherever it's possible to do so.
One of the things, by the way, you talk about the election cycle's over, don't forget the House.
Don't forget the Senate.
You know, the White House is one thing, but it doesn't exist by fiat.
What goes on in the White House, what's wanted, you know, whatever the executive desires does not always happen.
So, there's plenty of stuff to stay focused on here and stop looking at the, you know, this is a lost cause and we don't have to think, you know, the possibility of anything good happening until 2012.
That's ridiculous.
Lots of stuff here still ahead.
You never know what's going to happen.
That's one of the reasons, folks, I'm so optimistic.
I love waking up every day because I don't know what's going to happen.
And it's always exciting.
I'm not just in the news, in my life.
I don't know who's going to come popping into it.
Want it or not?
I don't know.
It's always exciting.
Getting up is the most exciting thing in the world.
I certainly am not going to pretend it's November the 20th in this year and I'm down on a dump, so I don't go there.
Okay, stimulus package news.
Republicans in the Senate.
Big news.
They stopped the Democrats.
Only seasoned citizens and veterans are going to be added to the people getting stimulus checks.
What a party.
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