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Feb. 7, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 7, 2008, Thursday, Hour #2
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Been watching and listening to more of Mitt Romney's speech.
And I, you know, I ask again, what is it about and he's gonna get out.
We got a note from his uh his campaign uh during the break, too.
It's it's all this stuff is true.
He's gonna suspend and get out of the race.
Um this is a this is a fabulous, fabulous speech he's giving.
He's going down the list of the problems we face and what we need to do to fix them.
Now I haven't I haven't heard every Mitt Romney speech.
Uh and I don't know if this is stump speech or if this is uh the things that he's saying in a new way today, but it just it just strikes me again how how people when they quit something, or when they I don't like the term quit, but when they decide to get out of something and they announce it sometimes, that's the best speech you ever hear them give.
We've often thought this of concession speeches uh with presidential candidates and so forth.
And we often ask ourselves, where was this during the campaign?
And I guarantee you the audience at CPAC, or 6,000 of them in there, listening to this when Mitt uh the speech he's giving is really tremendous, and he's gonna end it by saying, I'm quitting, I'm getting out of the race, and people are going to why.
There we are.
Okay, so he just said why.
He just for the good of the party and the good of the country, he's retiring from the race.
That that's that's what he said.
For the good of the party and for the good of the race, he's yeah, I was with him up until that point.
I now I'm lost.
Now I'm I just Well well, well, uh it is what it is.
So he's uh he's made it official, getting out for the good of the party and for the good of the presidential race.
Want to take you back to the previous hour.
And I want to re-tell you again something that I said uh if you missed it.
I went through a uh uh uh uh you know what another brilliant analysis monologue uh where the Republican Party finds itself today and why.
One of the things that I've one of the points I mentioned is everybody's dumping on talk radio for destroying this party or for destroying the the good time ahead.
Everybody's it's up to talk radio, it's up to the conservative grassroots, it's up to all of us to put aside our principles, compromise them, and join the majority in the party, the so-called majority in the party, um, so that we can all bask in electoral victory in November.
It isn't up to us, folks.
It is up to John McCain to demonstrate leadership, not to browbeat people into following him out of fear or loathing of Hillary Clinton.
That already exists.
We already fear, we already loathe well, some fear, I don't, but a lot of people do fear and loathe Hillary.
And by the way, it may not be Hillary, it may be Obama, where fear and loathing are not relevant, ain't gonna work.
Uh it can't, you can't use that to drum up support.
Uh leadership is more than being the anti-Hillary.
That's the minimum.
And all of our candidates fit that bill.
A leader is someone who by his own convictions personally and his personality and his vision can unite a party, unite a movement, unite a country behind him.
It's not up to me.
It's not up to you.
It's not up to anybody else.
It's up to the candidate.
Uh these talking point op-eds and editorials are no substitute for the candidate demonstrating leadership.
Carl Rove.
The reason I wanted to repeat this to you, Carl Rove was on the Fox News channel uh earlier this afternoon.
Jane Skinner asked him a question.
The question was this some have suggested that there is potential that the Romney campaign will be powered by this talk show host, Rush Limbaugh situation, a suggestion that there was still a chance for En-Roads, yet it was still close to a mathematical impossibility.
How would you frame that, Mr. Rove?
It is true.
People like Rush Limbaugh have a big sway among voters uh and among Republicans.
But candidates, you know, have to deliver the message.
And at the end of the day, voters make a decision, not simply on the basis of of uh no matter how persuasive the argument is by a talk radio person uh like Rush, but on the basis of candidates themselves and how they're delivering their messages.
Amen.
That's exactly what's what I just said in the last hour.
Amen.
It is not about us, folks.
You know, the the the idea here that uh this is all about talk radio, which is what the drive-by media template is.
It's not about me.
It's not about any other single person.
Uh the same people in Washington and New York who like to write op-eds and editorials to themselves to show how smart they are and how in touch they are missing what's going on.
I don't control the disaffection conservatives are feeling for the Republican Party and Washington generally.
This isn't some manufactured view that's turned on or off by me in people.
It's the result of years of contempt for the grassroots, years of neglect.
Rove has it exactly right here.
Yeah, we have some sway, but it candidates have to deliver the message, and by the end of the day, no matter how persuasive the argument is by talk radio people like Rush.
Elections are decided on the basis of the candidates themselves and how they deliver their messages, which is why all of these advice op-eds today that you can find advising McCain what to say, how not to blow it.
Speaking of the Conservative Political Action Committee.
Speaking of Senator McCain's soundbite from yesterday afternoon, we go to the top here, Mike.
Uh he had a presser and an unidentified reporter said, Could Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity hurt your chances in November?
By the way, I just want this is the third or fourth day in a row here where most of the soundbites we have mention me, and I just want you to know from the bottom of my heart that's not one playing these things.
I'm not controlling this.
Uh my my, you know, I don't have PR agents put my name out there.
None of this is it.
This is happening.
The reason I'm playing the sound bites for you is so you can hear the people speaking.
And the question is the question.
Anyway, McCain is asked by this reporter could Limbaugh and Hannity hurt your chances if they keep up their anti-Maccain crusade beyond the point that you secure the nomination.
I do hope that at some point we would just calm down a little bit and see if there's areas that we can agree on for the good of the party and for the good of the country.
I have responded to any of it as you know and won't, but I I think it might be a good idea if we I think they've made their case against me pretty eloquently, if that's the right word.
I think they've made their case against me, and I think the majority of Republicans across the board have stated their view, and so I hope that maybe we can now join together for the good of the party and the good of the conservative cause.
So we gotta calm down.
That's what you say to six-year-olds.
Uh some point we would just calm down a little bit, see if there's areas we can agree on for the good of the party.
I'm gonna become uh a broken record here.
Um you have to some of you may say, why are you keeping up this drum beat rush?
Why do you keep well you you've heard people say they do things because they care?
Well, I care.
Uh for one thing, I care about the country and I care about conservatism, and I do care, strangely enough, about the Republican Party.
And I'm really worried about what's going to happen to it.
The Republican Party, for good or bad, happens to be the home of conservatism right now.
And the Republican Party is doing its best to marginalize conservatives and their influence.
Hence all these attacks on talk radio and talk radio hosts and so forth.
Uh well, I'm just caring.
I care.
Ladies and gentlemen, doing what I can here to let people know what I think the future holds if we don't get these three legs of the conservative stool back and firmly established and not watered down and sawed off.
They make room for others who are not conservative in the party.
Brief time out.
Your phone calls are next.
Sit tight, we'll be right back.
Okay, we have the soundbite here from Mitt Romney announcing why he has suspending his campaign.
I I'm gonna have to check on this.
I'm not sure that uh uh about this, but it it could be that uh largely gonna, I think, depend on state rules, but when you suspend your campaign, you may in uh certain states be able to hold on to your delegates.
If you quit the race, you can't.
He didn't endorse anybody today, uh, and for that matter, neither is uh has Fred Thompson.
But here's um it's about a minute, nineteen seconds of Mitt Romney announcing why he's suspended today.
I disagree with Senator McCain on a number of issues, as you know, but I agree with him, but I agree with him on doing whatever it takes to be successful in Iraq and finding and executing Osama bin Laden, and I agree with him on eliminating Al Qaeda and terror worldwide.
Now, if I fight on in my campaign all the way to the convention, I want you to give this a lot of thought, I'd forestall the launch of a national campaign.
And frankly, I'd be making it easier for Senator Clinton or Obama to win.
Frankly, in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror.
This isn't an easy decision.
I hate to lose.
My family, my friends, you, my supporters across the country.
You've given a great deal to get me where I have a shot to becoming president.
If this were only about me, I'd go on.
But it's never been only about me.
I entered this race, I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America, in this time of war, I feel I have to now stand aside for our party and for our country.
Okay, there you have it.
So it th he's standing aside, he's suspending the campaign so that the Republicans will have enough lead time to prepare a successful campaign against either Hillary or Obama because he is not confident that they will continue the task of the war on terror and defeat Islamic jihadists.
Uh and uh he did say that he and McCain, even though they disagree on things, they do disagree on that.
So um now what's now what's gonna happen is uh all of us, okay, who's the conservative altar?
You gotta go to Huckabee now, Rush.
There is no conservative alternative in the race.
It's just that simple.
Let's go to the phones.
People have been patiently waiting.
It's Chicago first.
Jim, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
How are you, Rush?
Fine, sir.
Thank you.
You know, since yesterday afternoon when that woman called, I've been fuming, and I really didn't, as I was sitting there, I was trying to figure out what it is that's been bothering me about the show yesterday and all today.
And as I was listening to it, I figured out what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, the one everybody reacted favorably to.
Yeah, well, I d uh I didn't have a favorable reaction.
Uh and I couldn't figure out what it was in the all last night is bothering me, and I even got on the phone today just because it's been bothering me, and I couldn't figure out really how to put it in words, and then uh listening to you um in this last hour and listen to what just uh with Romney, I figured out what it is.
Where's the optimism here?
You know, yesterday I heard you I mean, yeah, I don't listen to you uh I don't listen to you so you could tell me where to go.
I already know where to go.
Conservatives go.
I mean, I'm not I'm not surprised that the party doesn't want us.
The party is never winning us.
The party didn't want to turn Ronald Reagan, the party didn't want to turn George Bush.
The party never wants his rush.
The media's always beating us up.
That's not you know what's been bothering me the last two days is uh I heard you actually say for the first time yesterday that for eight years we have accomplished nothing.
And I've got to disagree.
I I mean, if if if Gore or the or the Democrats were in charge of this country on 9-11, I I I just I pray to God every day.
No, no, no, wait, wait.
You you you're you're close.
I was reading an email from someone who's who was equally upset as the woman from Hagerstown, Maryland, who said she could he could not believe that with a Republican president and a Republican Congress for eight years, so little got done in terms of advancing conservatism.
Well, y yeah, but see, uh uh there uh and there I'm gonna go too.
We got a lot, we really accomplished a lot in the last eight years.
I mean, there are things uh uh tax-wise, uh uh family-wise, uh uh partial aborts, uh uh partial birth abortions, uh homosexual marriage we stood up for, we still I mean stood up against we uh uh the tax code, um there there's a there's a uh uh a litany of things that we have accomplished.
And yeah, of course, right now with no leadership, uh we never really had a presidential candidate in this race.
It's not like Ronald Reagan was running and we lost in the primary.
We I uh you know, I think personally that uh the when George Allen lost, I think we weren't ready to put it we didn't have a candidate to to have in this race.
And I think, you know, for us right now to say, oh, you know, there goes Romney, well Rodney was never somebody that we all got behind.
I mean, he was no he was nobody we followed for the last two years, hoping that he would come in.
The fact is is that we were left we were left kind of high and dry because we didn't have a candidate.
But you know, no one's saying we're gonna give up.
Everybody realizes that the base is out there, that we're not gonna we don't listen to the Republicans.
No, that's the point that's the whole point.
That's what I've been trying to talk about the last year.
Of course we're not gonna give up.
The pressure is being brought to bear on us to give up to compromise and join the other guys.
Yeah, but they always party for us, Rush.
They're always asking us to do that, and we don't do it.
But I listen to you for I don't listen to you for negativity.
I listen to you for a positive look on what we're supposed to do.
I don't need to hear this woman call and say we've got nothing.
That's that's crap.
We got a lot.
We have a you know, we believe in a lot of things.
You're the woman's primary mission in her phone call was to explain why she would never vote for McCain.
And in fact, if she thought McCain was gonna get close to winning, she'd vote Hillary.
Well, you know, you know, that's fine.
That's that's the thing.
That's that's the primary that that was the impetus uh and the theme of her call.
The impetus behind her because she th th th the eight years got nothing.
She she wasn't bashing Bush.
Well, uh well, I'm just saying I actually heard you say we haven't gotten any we got an excrement sandwich for eight years.
And that really depri I mean that's when I really kind of and believe me, I'm from Illinois.
Obama's a lot a lot worse than what we I mean I I'm just I'm just trying to tell you.
I don't care what that woman does.
All I'm saying is uh the fact is we we uh as the base of the Republican Party, we have accomplished a lot.
We have moved a long way since nineteen eighty.
We took this uh we are actually a majority in this country not five years ago.
So for us to sit here and act as though we're in this basement, we're a bunch of you know, the that we're being stepped all over, all we gotta do is pick up, find somebody to get behind, and get our stuff back in there.
That's all.
This is not gonna be that difficult.
We have come a long way since nineteen eighty.
Or since you've been around.
I know don't you I there's a the story today in the New York Times that that uh women don't like men who yell.
Well, I'm sorry.
No, you're not you I'm talking about me.
Um yeah.
But but it's precisely because that we have made strides.
We could have made a lot more, but we have made strides that the the uh uh point to which we've arrived now is stop we're not gonna make those strides anymore.
We're gonna go in a whole different direction.
Oh, we're not gonna allow that to happen, and you know that.
What?
You're not gonna pull the wool all over our eyes and say, Well, this is what we have to do.
You know, John he's gotta listen to us.
John McCain's out there, he's he hears it every day.
You don't we're not listening to you.
You speak for what we believe in.
That's the reason why you're popular.
That's the reason why we listen to you.
You don't put it in our words into our mouth.
Yes, plus it's a good show.
I mean it's a great show.
Can't leave that out.
It's a great show.
But that's why I was saying, well, okay, let me let me ask you let me you keep talking about optimism, and you know, I'm the I'm the eternal optimist, and I get grief on this program for being optimistic because people think I'm avoiding reality.
But I know, but let me ask what are you optimistic about?
Specifically with the with the uh you know, with w it's it's obviously McCain.
Now what what are you optimistic about?
Well, I the one thing I'm optimistic about is the war in Iraq.
I think I think that you know what we have allowed the Democrats to walk away from the fact that they say we lost this thing.
I mean, f for us focusing on on a bunch of you know the liberal tendencies and the immigration thing, the fact is these guys were wrong on the war.
These guys should be taken to the to the we should take him to the woodshed on this.
Who has been doing that?
Yes.
But I I want to I want to keep it.
No, no, no.
Don't say yes.
Who's been doing that?
Right.
Has any has it?
Wait a second.
Has any Republican in Washington been talking about Democrats as you guys are engaged in defeat.
You're trying to defeat this country.
You're trying to make this country No.
The nobody has so I you know this is this is one of the one of the points I'm trying to make here.
When you look at where the leadership is, it's not where it should be.
And I've said this consistently over and over.
Uh there there has not been any effective conservative leadership.
There is trepidation and fear inside the beltway among Republicans.
For whatever reason, we've been through this over and over again in terms of why they don't uh you know engage the battle and so forth.
Look, I appreciate a call out there, Jimbo.
I have a uh break here I can't miss.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
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A way of life.
Well, you know, this this may change the whole equation for Senator McCain's address before the conservative political action conference uh this afternoon of CPAC where Mitt Romney just spoke as Romney just suspended his campaign.
Uh think he probably will in some states be able to hold on to the uh delegates.
He didn't didn't endorse anybody.
I think what it happened was he just he looks forward, he says impossible in the delegate count.
It just it have to run the table uh to uh to to overcome this.
And probably just made a realistic decision on the basis of that and finances and number of other things.
But now, you know, McCain, I mean what it what does it matter what he says at uh C SPA.
I mean it matters a little bit, but he if he wanted to.
Uh McCain could walk in there and say, All right, I showed up.
I screw you and leave.
Where are you else he gonna go?
Huck at me?
Ha!
Don't make me laugh.
Sorry, folks.
I just like doing my McCain.
Uh impersonation.
Uh uh, yes.
Alan in uh in suburban Philadelphia.
It's nice to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Right thinking ditto, Rush.
Thank you, sir, very much.
Or should I say irrelevant right thinking dittoes.
Uh funny how the uh someone who's so irrelevant, the drive-by seems to like to talk about you all the time.
But anyways, first let me just say that I think Mitt Romney's withdrawal proves that he is a good businessman, if nothing else.
He realized he wasn't gonna win, so why throw away all that money?
I think we'll see him again.
Yeah, he could stay active in uh in a number of ways.
He could run for the Senate against the haughty John Kerry in uh in uh Massachusetts if he chose to, for example.
Now, the the reason I called, though, I just wanted to say that for a few days I was toying with the idea of either sitting out the presidential election or voting for a third party candidate if McCain does win the nomination, which now of course looks like a lock.
But I think I've come to my senses.
Uh first I can never vote for a Democrat.
I'm sorry to say I have voted for two Democrats in my life, and I regret both votes.
One was Patrick Moynihan and the other was Arlen Spector.
But uh seriously, though, if Hillary wins the Democrat nomination, there is no way I can't do everything in my power to defeat her, even even if it is only my one vote.
Uh I understand the thinking that in the long run it may work out better to let a Democrat mess up the country as opposed to a Republican.
But the idea of Bill and Hillary's smug satisfaction after moving back into the White House is uh really just too much for me to take.
Uh hope it doesn't make me shallow.
I just can't handle the idea of Hillary winning.
Uh now if Obama wins, I will definitely vote a third party ticket, though.
You see, Limbo, this is why.
I don't need you.
Because I hate Hillary.
They're gonna vote for me no matter what.
Even if it means voting against her, so I'm not worried, Limbo, about you or any your other people.
See, scary, but scary, but it's not what they're relying on, but I'm telling you, I'm telling you that's what the Republican Party is relying on.
They're relying on guys like you who are at all costs gonna go out there and uh try to defeat Hillary and uh which I totally understand.
I just think it is such such a chance for leadership here, such a chance You know, optimum optimism is not being clouded by reality, and uh, you know, optimism is not false reality and so forth, and you know, you play the hand you have, you deal the cards and uh play the deck that you have with a card, the hand that you have, and that's what you're gonna do.
Well, absolutely too.
What's a what's our alternative?
It's the uh you know, McCain is obviously uh McCain, uh obviously no friend of the Republicans, but uh, you know, it's the yes, he is less uh lesser uh McCain's a big friend of Republicans.
Well, maybe the left wing of the party.
But uh I don't know.
Again, I I hope it doesn't make me shallow.
I know that we've got a long ways to go, but don't worry about what people think of you.
Well, no, it's you're gonna don't care.
Go do what you're gonna do, do it, follow your gut.
That's my gut.
Conviction and don't worry about what people think of you.
The idea of nature.
If we had more people that didn't worry about what people thought of them, we wouldn't have Republicans in such a damn defensive posture all the time.
Don't worry about what people think of you.
Uh, you know, it's it I've talked about this today, but it's not a guarantee anymore that uh the the Hillary's gonna be the nominee.
There's real trouble out there.
She's out of money.
Obama brought in 30 million while she had to lend herself five million.
Uh these next states coming up are Obama states, and what did I do with this?
I just print.
Uh I'll have to print it out again.
I got so many stacks of so many pieces of paper here.
Uh ah, here it is.
White males, this is um new house news.
White males are holding the balance of power in the Democrat primaries and caucuses.
As I've always said, all this talk about the female vote, all this talk about the ethnic vote, and all this talk, white males are holding the balance of power in the Democrat primaries and the caucuses.
This year, for the first time, a Democrat Party will nominate a candidate for president who is not a white male, but the results from Super Tuesday contests coast to coast suggest that white males, like a sovereign who gets to name his successor, may be the decisive swing vote in this historic battle between Obama, a black man and Hillary, a white woman.
While the results fluctuated wildly state to state, it appears that Obama narrowly won the white male vote in battling Hillary to a super Tuesday draw.
Indeed, white males are holding the balance of power in the Democrat primaries and caucuses, said David Redlosk, University of Iowa political scientist, elected a John Edwards delegate in his state's caucye and has written about the intersection of gender and politics.
White males are playing a fairly important role.
A dirty little secret is they always have.
Since the New Hampshire primary, white women have been consistently siding with Clinton.
They represent a disproportionate share of the Democrat electorate because they're both more likely to be Democrats and more likely to vote.
Black voters backing Obama in numbers trending toward the uh unanimous.
So uh, you know, this if if it's Yeah, but if here well, you don't have a white guy.
For the first time in history, there's no white guy running on the Democrat side.
So you got you got the black guy and the white girl.
Um you get the black guy, the ex-wife, and you've got white men trying to figure out, oh, what the hell do we do?
Most of these white guys have been neutered.
You know, they they are they are uh they're they've been feminized because they're Democrat liberals.
You know, think Alan Alda and Michael Kinsley.
They're looking here and they're just they're they're conflicted as hell.
Um, you know, the temptation here to go with Obama will assuage them of their white guilt.
Uh but going with Hillary will show that they are genuine feminists.
What are they to do?
What what what will be the uh what will be the determining factor as far as how these guys go?
The bottom line is it may not be Hillary, so there may not be fear and loathing that Republicans or McCain can rely on here.
It may be just the opposite.
We may be we may be dealing with somebody who gets a nomination because a bunch of Democrats think he's the reincarnation of JFK.
But regardless, you're not gonna be able to gin up fear and loathing of this guy.
He doesn't he doesn't exude a personality makes you dislike him.
He doesn't exude a personality that makes you fear him.
Uh and he doesn't talk enough about his policies to make you fear those.
Uh so fear and loathing, I mean, if if he gets a nomination, any Republican's gonna be handcuffed here in terms of uh of how to deal with it.
Not and then you know, if if Obama gets it, you're gonna have an age contrast.
I can't help them, you're gonna have an age contrast.
You're gonna have a generational contest, pass the torch, new generation.
They can't if if if these people on our side are going to rely on this anti-Hillary loathing, uh, then you better do what you can to ensure she gets the Democrat nomination.
In fact, that has made me I I have seriously been considering, we've done this before.
There's precedent.
When the Democrat National Committee through Carl McCall overboard, when he was running for governor, first black guy to run for governor of New York, and they abandoned him, and they didn't give him any money.
We fundraised.
I asked you and this audience to send him a buck.
And some of you did.
He got a considerable amount of money.
And uh New York Daily News had a columnist, black, what was her name?
Uh SHIPP ship.
Um I'm having a middle block of her.
Who?
Yeah, ER Ship.
ER, and she wrote a piece, how embarrassing it was that Rush Limbaugh's listeners were donating to Carl McCall's campaign.
Now it's obvious that the Republican Party wants Hillary because they want to use the fear and loathing to unite the party rather than leadership from within the party.
Am I safe in saying this?
I think I am.
Then a guy from Philadelphia just illustrated a well, we want the fear and loathing of Hillary to unite the party rather than leadership from the party.
Therefore, might it be required, ladies and she's having to loan herself money.
Do you think I should conduct a fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton?
So that the Republican Party, I mean, Mitt did his part today.
He got out so as not to fracture the party any further and not to harm the effort to win the war in Iraq.
Should I do my part, not by joining my liberal friends in the Republican Party, but actually raising money for Mrs. Clinton so that she would, and all of you to ask you to join me so that she would have a chance here to once again have a good shot at getting a Democrat nomination so that we win the White House.
Well, but I didn't raise money for Howard Dean.
I know I endorsed Howard David and raised any money for him.
I'm not talking about endorsing Hillary, I'm talking about raising money for her because apparently the Republican strategy is relying on fear and loathing of Hillary to unite everybody.
If she's not the nominee, that's out the window.
All right, folks, I need to ask you a question, personal question from me to you.
Do I sound like I need cheering up here?
I'm getting emails from France, boy, you sound like you're usual cheering up, and they sending me these stupid little internet jokes.
For you to smile.
I've uh like an internet joke would cheer me up.
Spam would cheer me up.
But do I sound like I need to be cheered up?
I can't wait till the drive-by's get hold of my promise or my no my promise.
I can't wait till the drive-by's get hold of my uh uh thought, my consideration of helping Hillary raise money.
You know, they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll miss the reason.
They'll just publicize Limbaugh's so upset at Romney getting out, he's thinking of raising money for Hillary.
Period.
Now, but the reason for raising money for Hillary is because it apparently my party is relying on fear and loathing of Hillary to get the nomination to unite Republicans, who are some of them off the reservation.
They're not requiring, they're not, they're not that they don't seem to Republicans do not seem to be relying on leadership in their party to unite the party.
They seem to be relying on all these external things.
Nobody's gonna vote for Hillary, that negative turnout fact.
What if she's not the nominee?
We've got to make sure she's a nominee if the Republican party's be unified.
What more loyal thing could I do than to run a fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton?
You watch, though, you watch how that'll be questioned.
Jane in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Good afternoon, Rush.
Hi.
Good to talk you.
Mag you dido.
Thank you.
Long time listener.
I even went to your show in New York one time.
Oh, that was a good one.
I'll bet you had a great time at that.
I did, and afterwards we went to Cassie's for for dinner, and you were there.
Yeah.
So I I was following you around that night.
Those are good old days.
I called him to tell you that McCain, I don't go through all the reasons why I didn't want to vote for McCain or I wouldn't have voted for McCain, or why I dislike him.
We we all know that.
It's been repeated over and over again.
But I was listening to you talk before and where the Republican Party is moving to from the conservative to the more moderates or the more liberals.
And I we watched the Democratic Party do the same thing.
There used to be people like Sam Nunn and that lovely man with the Southern accent.
I can't think of his name from downsalt that was so well spoken in their in the Democratic Party.
Now the Democratic Party, no matter who you run, are all the same.
We had a difference in our party one.
Well, there's an ex there's one exception.
And that's Joe Lieberman.
Except they've run him out of the party for all intents and purposes in independent.
And as in Zell Miller, you know, they've uh Zell Miller, that's who I was trying to think about.
Yeah, they made him out to be a kook and a nut now.
But we have all these moderates, or liberal, I'm gonna say liberal, they're not even moderate, like Spectre from my for my state and Olympia Snow, and all these new Englanders that are definitely liberal.
They're not just moderates, they're liberals.
And what they're trying to do is drag the party, and then we'll all be the same.
Do we want to all be the same?
I'm gonna stand by my conservative principles till I die.
Good for you.
Good for you.
Whatever it takes.
And I want to tell you something.
I never did how many things I could get done with the phone in my ear.
With a I've been on the phone for the case.
What have you been doing?
I thought you sounded a little bit distracted, but I just thought it was nervousness at actually speaking to them.
No, no, I've been on the this is a cell phone.
I've been on this phone for almost two hours, and I can't believe all the things I accomplished.
Oh, I say you were on hold that long.
I see.
Well, look, I appreciate the call.
Thanks.
Thanks, thanks very much.
Gonna stick to the tried and true princess.
Interesting point.
Both parties moving the same direction.
Well, the Democrats kind of holding where they are.
They're drifting further to the commie side in a much of their Kookville.
Uh but there are Republicans moving in that direction.
You know, they want the party to go more to that direction.
There's no question of the governing class.
They'll just switch parties now and then in terms of who's in power.
Uh John in Columbus, Ohio, nice to have you on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hi, sir.
Megadetto's Mr. Rush.
How are you today?
Fine, sir.
Thank you very much.
Uh my question is I'm a conservative in Ohio, now a uh blue state, I guess, since Mr. Strickland won, and Sherrod Brown took over for this lying Mr. Dewine.
He's a liberal.
Um since we've lost this election cycle, uh, who do we look forward to in the next.
Uh since we've lost this election cycle, we haven't lost it yet.
Well, conservative-wise, we have, because there's no difference between McCain and Hillary or Obama.
That as of today, that's true.
You know, I don't know what's going to happen down the road.
I I look at one thing I don't do is assume in February that things today are going to be like they are in November.
I just don't.
Do you realize how much could happen between now and I don't even want to go through all the possibilities?
But this this is one of you want me to be realistic in pessimism.
So, okay, we're cooked.
We're doomed.
What do we look forward to?
And I'm not prepared to go there yet.
Because we what we look forward to is what we always look forward to.
And that is being who we are and attempting to change our culture as best we can, stand up for our values and empower them wherever it's possible to do so.
We had a what one of the things, by the way, you you talk about the election cycle's over.
Don't forget the House.
Don't forget the Senate.
You know, the White House is one thing, but it doesn't exist by fiat.
What goes on in the White House, what's wanted uh, you know, the what whatever the executive designers does not always happen.
Uh so there's there's plenty of stuff to stay focused on here.
And stop looking at the you know, the this is a lost cause, and uh, we don't have to think you know any possibility of anything good happening until 2012.
It's ridiculous.
Lots of stuff here still ahead.
You never know what's gonna happen.
That's what one of the reasons folks, I'm so optimistic.
I love waking up every day because I don't know what's gonna happen.
And it's always exciting.
What I'm not just in the news, in my life.
I don't know who's gonna come pop it into it.
Wanted or not.
I don't know.
It's always excited.
Getting up is the most exciting thing in the world.
I certainly am not gonna pretend it's uh it's it's November the twentieth in uh in this year and I'm down on a dump, so I don't go there.
Okay, uh stimulus package news.
Uh Republicans in the Senate, big news, they stopped the Democrats.
Only seasoned citizens and veterans are gonna be added to people getting stimulus checks.
What a party!
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