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Feb. 4, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 4, 2008, Monday, Hour #2
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I want to clarify something that I said in the last hour, had a call who was talking of a caller caller talking about the uh the three legs of the conservative stool.
And I said that one of the reasons why the party or why voters on our side are going to three or four different candidates is because not one candidate embodies all three legs of the stool.
I should say that the more accurate way to have stated that was, is at the outset of our campaign, there wasn't one who did.
There was one at Fred Fred Thompson did, but he was never really a factor.
Uh for reasons we can only guess about.
Uh but after that, you know, Romney, McCain, uh Huckabee, Ron Paul, uh had an each one of these guys uh, you know, had a strength on one of those legs of the stool, and so our guys, our side went went what off on their single issue preferences.
Now, I think now, uh, based on the way the campaign has shaken out, that there probably is a candidate on our side who does embody all three legs of the conservative position, the conservative stool, and that's Romney.
The three stools or the three legs of the stool are national security foreign policy, uh the social conservatives and the fiscal conservatives.
The social conservatives are the cultural people, the fiscal conservatives, the economic crowd, low taxes, smaller government, get out of the way, uh, and of course the foreign policy crowd is obvious what it is.
I don't think there's anybody on our side uh who doesn't care about national security, which is why I've found it amazing that McCain gets the bulk of those, because the idea that who's left, Romney or Huckabee are gonna punt national security in Huckabee's case, you might just say the things he's saying about it uh represent uh uh an ignorance born of inexperience in the subject.
Uh I don't think I'm not Huckabee has any deleterious uh uh uh in uh intentions about the about the country.
Uh when it comes to the uh you know the fiscal, you cannot say.
You just cannot say that John McCain, he's even admitted he's not interested in the social side.
He's not interested in the economic side.
Uh he's said this, and when he has spoken up about it, he sides more often with liberal Democrats on fiscal issues than he does with his own side.
Uh that's problematic.
This is why I think and why I have said that the Republican Party, not conservatism, but the Republican Party is in big trouble if it if it is empowered and gets elected by attracting people who also hold liberal Democrat views simply because they like McCain because of his character, his honor, prisoner of war story, and they don't like Hillary or Obama.
Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna just tell you folks, if the Republican Party grows and expands by attracting liberals as liberals, and if we grow and expand because we have a candidate who's going out trying to attack attract liberals by being like them, then the party's gonna be around, but you won't recognize it.
It it's gonna it's gonna be over as it exists now.
If that becomes the look at how McCain won, why he got liberals and liberal independence.
Yeah, look at how he won.
He ran as a liberal and won as a liberal.
That's really great for the Republican Party, right?
So my take is speaking for myself and being honest here, and all I do is tell you what I think.
What you do with it's up to you.
You're not my number robots as you know.
I'm not a Svingali, I'm not a Pied Piper, and you're not lemmings running off the cliff.
If I look at this three, if this roster of three candidates, if I look at Hillary Obama, about whom there's not a dime's worth of difference, maybe Hillary and Obama, there's so far left, it doesn't matter which one of them wins, if if McCain adopts economic policies that sound very much like the what you get from Hillary Obama, and if I think those policies are going to take the country down the tubes, I'd just soon a Democrats take the hit for it.
Not us.
Plain and simple.
And I think that's pretty I think it's pretty wise.
But I think right now Romney probably, as the campaign has coalesced, and as the campaign has uh progressed on down the highway, I think if the one candidate of the three still out there on our side that matter,
and actually it's just two, because Huckabee doesn't in terms of a chance to win, uh in saying who more closely embodies all three legs of this conservative stool, you'd have to say that it's Mitt Romney.
There's actually no choice in the matter.
It certainly isn't Senator McCain.
I think one other thing about Senator McCain uh in trying to explain him or his appeal to people, I had a note from a friend who said you're missing something big about Senator McCain.
And if this friend of mine is right, then um I have missed it.
And that is that it's just what she said to me.
She said, you have to understand that McCain comes off as a great American.
He loves America, he wants to move America forward.
He doesn't care about these social things, doesn't care about these similar social issues, doesn't care about the cultural issues.
Uh he doesn't want to get philosophical about his positions at all because his positions are not rooted in philosophy.
I said that makes, you know, that actually makes a lot of sense.
His positions are not rooted in philosophy, meaning he doesn't have a philosophy.
He's he's just playing the uh what would you get the the American card or the patriot card, the prisoner of war story or whatever, and that happens to appeal to some people.
But he does, this is where I would, this is where I would distance myself uh from the analysis of my friend, and that is I think McCain really plays up this maverick business.
Loves the maverick business.
What is a maverick?
A maverick uh is somebody at Buck's tradition and principles held by a majority of people.
A maverick is somebody in it for himself.
Uh even Cindy McCain has said that her husband loves the Maverick label, and she does too.
Who attached the Maverick label to McCain, the drive-by media?
Are there any Democrat mavericks?
Any mavericks on Democrat side?
By that I mean uh that's true.
Lieberman is a maverick, and look what the Democrats have done to him.
They they ran him out of the party.
Now I'm I'm we're we're left to believe that uh the drive-by's and the Democrats, they love these Mavericks, they love these independent thinkers, these straight talkers.
Only when they're on our side.
When the Maverick is on our side denouncing our side, running against our side, doing what he can to diminish our side, of course the drive-by's love him.
New York Times, Washington Post, whoever it is, endorsed this guy.
Uh drive-by media choosing our candidate.
Uh what majority is McCain going against right now?
Conservatives.
Says he's trying to unify, but he's he's going against conservatives.
And who are conservatives?
Conservatives are the principal people who cut their teeth in the minority, were shut out until the 1980s when Reagan finally won, but made their presence felt in 1976.
Uh they had to continue to fight from a minority position back then through the 90s and even now today.
And we do.
Uh swimming against the tide, uh conservatism goes against the ease of the population, the vapidity of cosmic justice like fairness and inequality that sounds so good.
Conservatism is constantly swimming against the tide.
Because it's hard.
Conservatism is an intellectual application.
One arrives at conservatism after having thought about things.
You know, liberalism is simply what you feel.
You feel good about things.
It's the most gutless choice that you can make.
Anybody can be a liberal.
And by the way, this is not my quote.
I wish it were.
I can't remember who said this.
Might have been John O'Sullivan at National Review, but he's whoever it was said any organization that is not by definition conservative will be liberal.
Liberal is not something somebody has to be convinced of.
It's not something you have to run around and persuade people.
You don't have to argue with them to change their minds.
It's just it's it's a it's the natural ease of dealing with ethereal, ephemeral issues, and not really solving them, but making you and everybody else think you care deeply about them.
Conservatism is not easy.
Takes work, it takes thought, conviction against easy answers from the left that do not work, but they sound wonderful.
And it really grates on a lot of conservatives who have devoted their lives to try to bring the ideology to as many people as possible, remind them it's the structure and basis for the founding of our country.
It just grates to have people on our side so easily defect, and then turn around and turn the guns on us as though we are the problem, which is what is happening with the uh with the McCain campaign.
Uh Senator McCain successfully targeted the weak, the mushy, the squishy, the jellos, some of the left, the drive-by media.
The maverick, here's the here's the here's the dirty little secret.
The maverick is swimming with the majority.
The maverick is not a maverick.
The maverick is with the majority.
And he's swimming very easily with the tide.
He's not a maverick.
Back in a moment.
One more thing on this maverick business, and here's why I think it works.
A maverick, as far as the American people are concerned, is what?
Quintessential American, a rugged individual that somebody swims against conventional wisdom, somebody who swims against the tide.
And guess who gave us the title maverick associated with John McCain, the drive-by media.
The drive-by media is it's a Maverick and American people who pay scant attention, who don't really know what's going on this early prior to an election.
A focus on personalities and soap operas and this kind of thing.
I mean the soap operas of campaigns.
Maverick.
Yeah, tough guy.
Greg individualist.
Who do you speak his mind?
He's not one.
He's going with he's taking the easy route, moistening the finger.
He's out there saying the Democrat Party has better ideas than we do.
The Democrat Party's ideas poll better than ours do.
I'm going to adopt the Democrat Party's ideas.
Maverick, my rear end.
In fact, folks, you know I don't like to talk about myself as if if there is a maverick out there today, it is I who am the maverick.
You talk about swimming against the tide.
I got the drive-by's celebrating already.
Well, you hear the sound bites, my demise.
I got other radio talk show hosts salivating for my demise.
I got some in a Republican punditry salivating.
I'm not trying to get sympathy here.
Don't misunderstand.
It's always been this way.
That's why when you're at the top, everybody's shooting at you.
You just, it's what it is.
But I'm the maverick.
If there's a maverick out there, it is I star swimming against the tide.
Let's go to the phones.
I want to get to these sound bites, there's a lot of them.
I'm trying to space them out because they're all about me.
And I'm trying not to make the show about me.
This is Bill and Sue City, South Dakota.
Hello.
Hey, Rush.
Uh, great uh talking to you, and that's a great show from my perspective today, too, by the way.
Thank you.
Um you know, I I I agree with you that the the uh drive-by is do not get you and do not understand why you do this show, and I agree that your audience is generally very intelligent and think for themselves and that you do not give them marching orders and stuff like that.
But I do think that there is something important, maybe that you know you've missed about why it is uh that the drive-bys are so anxious to decide whether you've got any irrelevance anymore.
And and that's because you you know, your natural humility, and uh you have some, I know.
I listen to you long enough to know that you do, regardless of what some callers may think.
And and that is you overlook what it is that you have accomplished and where you find yourself at this stage in your career.
I mean, when you started out in in uh AM radio, it was dead.
I mean, there was nothing there.
You have single-handedly uh caused a complete revolution in AM radio to the point where today you have on local stations, national uh syndicated uh talk show hosts, who are all there because you paved the way, and frankly, all of them are going to themselves got it.
I wish I could be Rush Limbaugh when I grow up.
You know, I mean that they you know look to you and go, that's what I want my career to look like someday.
And and because of where you've gotten, you are whether you intend to or not, and I don't think you intend to, but whether you intend to or not, you are something of a uh of a conservative Republican uh kingmaker, whether you intend that to be the case or not.
I mean, how how many other talk show hosts will routinely have the vice president of the United States on the air?
I mean, you know, you don't get to be where you're at without having a fair amount of influence, at least in terms of articulating um conservative values and conservative ideas.
Well, that's true.
I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna deny that.
That's why I call this the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
The objective here, uh when you take the business objectives out, and this is a business, and this is the one thing that nobody uh is the the left or right, when they examine this program, none of them do so in terms of the career aspect of it.
They look at me as a political figure who uh who happens to be on the radio while these other political figures are in the newspaper, and some of them are on television, and that's just fine because the longer they go not understanding what I do and how I do it, and by the way, folks, don't worry about it.
This because the media did not make me.
If the media doesn't make you, they cannot break you.
I can only break myself.
And the only way I could do that would be doing something to destroy the bond that you and I have had here for twenty years.
They can't do that because they didn't create it.
Media buzz did not make this show a success, so media buzz and media criticism can't destroy it, which is why don't worry about it.
It's a great luxury not to have to be concerned about what the media says about that.
And they've tried.
But the objective here, strip the business stuff aside.
The objective here is to create a more informed, engaged, participatory public.
And that's happened.
And one of the greatest, and there are many examples, one of the greatest examples of it was what happened with the amnesty bill.
Isn't it amazing?
That was only last summer.
And last summer the amnesty bill look at what talk radio did.
I'm not saying this, the drive-bys are saying it.
Now all of a sudden we're irrelevant.
Because a piece of legislation doesn't pass, or because uh some candidate doesn't win a primary, all of a sudden we don't exist.
Uh anyway, let's let's hear what the soundbites are.
If I don't get started on this, we're not gonna get to the meat of them.
Uh Bob Schiefer, interviewing Senator McCain on Face the Nation yesterday.
Schefer says, Rush Limbaugh says you're an imposter.
What do you say to that?
I understand that primaries are tough, Bob.
You've seen them, and the the sometimes there are some bruised feelings, but uh I'm the I am uh have a strong conservative record that I'm proud to run on, and I believe I know that I can unite the party once we get through uh this primary.
And I'm I again I'm proud of my record and I know that we can unite and move forward and win in November.
Uh I'm gonna throw myself out on this.
I don't think Senator McCain understands, nor do I think the Republican under Republican Party establishment understand just how much disgust there is out there amongst their own voters, people like you in this audience.
I don't think they get it.
But another thing, for those of you out there in the drive-bys, and even you Republican establishment types on our side.
Here you are.
Conservatism's dead.
It's over.
It's finished.
No longer has any impact.
How come every one of these candidates is talking about how they are the heir to Reagan that they are conservative?
They know they can't win this election without conservative base supporting them, and that is not guaranteed here.
Back to the audio soundbite.
We'll get to your phone calls in due course.
Last Wednesday in Denver.
Bill Clinton stumping for his wife, the most cheated on woman in the world.
When Hillary went to the Senate, all the pundits said, Oh, you know, she'll never get anything done in the Senate because the Republicans don't like the Clintons.
That makes her polarizing.
I mean, Rush Limbaugh says bad things about her.
Another reason you ought to go for her.
My name is the only thing that got any reaction from that crowd.
Nothing that he said.
And they chuckled.
You know what amazes, and by the way, Hillary cried again today.
She did.
She was in coming fine this.
She was in uh well, I'm sure there's film.
We'll get it in a minute.
Uh she was in uh she was in New Haven, Connecticut.
She teared up this morning at an event at the Yale Child Study Center where she worked while in law scruel in the early 70s.
A doctor who was introducing Clinton began to choke up, leading Clinton's eyes to fill with tears, which she wiped out of her left eye.
At the time, the uh the doctor was saying how proud he was that sheep skin coat, bell bottom wearing young women, or a woman he met in 72 was now running for president.
Well, I said I would not tear up already.
We're not uh exactly on that path, Clinton said with emotion after the introduction.
So she uh cried out there again.
I don't uh well depends on how many people see it, Mr. Sturdley, as to how many points it's worth in the uh in the polls, and get this.
This is from the Los Angeles Times of uh of yesterday.
In a dramatic day of politicking, former President Clinton made a series of contrite appearances before African American churches in Los Angeles, sounding chastened while talking to the congregations.
Clinton talked about the election as the proverbial embarrassment of riches, saying he had waited his whole life to vote for an African American for president and just as long to vote for a woman.
I say that to remind us that we have to find a way to choose without division, to disagree without discord, to celebrate the shattering of all these phony categories that kept Americans apart too long.
I mean, I have waited a whole life to vote for an African American for president.
But now that the woman that I owe my entire career to is also running for president, I have to dump on a black guy.
And I hope you people here in the church understand that.
It's nothing personal.
It's just it's about saving my testicles and a lot of other things.
Yay, we understand first black president Bill Clinton.
Uh Mitt Romney.
Sunday, CNN's late edition.
Wolf Blitzer.
He came out of the Florida primary with some significant political momentum.
What are you going to do to try to stop that from escalating, if you will, on Tuesday?
Conservatives across the country are saying, whoa, we have to get behind Mitt Romney.
You've got people like Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingram, and well, the list goes on and on and on.
Conservative voices, both from radio and from publications, are saying, you know what, we got to get behind Mitt Romney.
We really can't afford John McCain as the uh nominee of our party.
And that kind of groundswell, I think is what led me to win in Maine yesterday.
Uh we had Olympia Snow and Senator Collins both fighting for John McCain.
And I won uh 53% of the vote there.
Uh John McCain got 20%.
And that was because conservatives, Who normally would have stayed home turned out in record numbers and gave me the win.
And this is Saturday in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
And we move on to Governor Huckabee now.
Held a press conference, unidentified reporter said, uh Governor Huckabee, well, why are these conservative leaders uh going to Governor Romney's camp and not Senator McCain's?
Some suggest that the fact that bank capital owns a major stake in Clear Channel that is on uh Sean's network that maybe there's a correlation.
I don't know.
Oh, now I happen to know something about this.
And this is this is this is this is just embarrassing.
You you play it.
Yeah, I know, I know.
It's it's it's it's shocking.
The uh I th there's so much ignorance, or if he knows that he's not telling the truth here, it's just it's bold.
Uh but he was asked by an unidentified reporter why conservative leaders are going to Romney and not Senator McCain.
Some suggest that the fact that Baying Capital owns a major stake in Clear Channel is on uh Sean's network, that maybe there's a correlation.
I don't know.
Bain Capital is the uh group, the financial group uh partially co-founded by Mitt Romney.
He uh has had to divest himself from Bain Capitol.
Bain Capital does not own a major stake in Clear Channel.
Not yet.
Bain Capital and Thomas Lee Partners have uh uh entered into a deal to um uh purchase clear channel and take it private, but it hasn't been approved.
The stockholders of I think the stockholders say it, but it's it requires a bunch of approval.
It hasn't been done.
And furthermore, Sean Hannity is not a contractual partner with Clear Channel anyway.
Clear Channel carries some of Sean's some of their stations carry Sean's show.
There's nothing accurate about this.
This is a left-wing conspiracy.
This is Huckabee has picked this up from a left-wing.
If you go to the right left-wing kook websites, you will they're trying to trash Romney by saying he's secretly buying Clear Channel.
Clear Channel is the partner of Rush Limbois.
And that means that there's an unholy alliance between Romney and Rush Limbaugh.
Well, Romney's not with Bain Capital.
Bain Capital does not own Clear Channel yet, has nothing to say about how Clear Channel's running itself, and Hannity is nowhere to be found in in the equation in any which way, manner, or form, other than his show is carried on some Clear Channel radio stations.
That's totally believable, Snerdley.
What do you mean?
Unbelievable.
It's totally believable.
This is the kind of stuff, this is this is what's bugging me.
We've got candidates on our side who are adopting liberalism.
They're adopting liberal conspiracy theories and spreading them around as Republican candidates.
They're adopting liberal ideas and saying, hey, all the great ideas, the Democrats are polling greater.
This is what's so irritating to me.
And then with all of this, I mean, don't forget Huckabee was David Brooks's guy when he was winning out of Iowa, and Bill Kristol's guy, and now all of a sudden they're for McCain.
But people on our side are adopting all of this, so you don't pay no attention to it, Rush.
Ignore it.
It's it's it's it's it's irrelevant.
We're gonna win.
We're gonna win.
It's not irrelevant when we have our candidates spreading liberal conspiracy theories which have no basis in fact whatsoever.
Zilch.
Zero nada.
And then other candidates out there espousing Democrat ideas and liberal ideas because they're polling better.
Now we're told to shut up and get back on the reservation and understand what's what's uh what's necessary here.
Good morning, America.
I'm sorry.
Wrong show.
CNN's American Morning, co-host John Roberts interviewing Governor Huckabee.
Now Robert says you you have conservatives like Rush Limbaugh saying things like if Mike Huckabee becomes a nominee, he'll destroy the Republican Party.
How do you explain that disconnect?
A lot of the Wall Street Republicans who don't really like the Walmart Republicans, and that's who I represent.
I I represent rank and file people that aren't the powerful.
They may not be the swells that go to the nice cocktail parties.
Uh, but there are a whole lot of people in this party that if uh if they get abandoned and they get left out, it's gonna be real hard for Republicans to win this fall.
And I think people ought to be thinking very seriously about dumping a lot of the uh folks that gave the Republicans their victories, the people who hammer in the yard signs, uh, the people who go out there and work for the candidates.
They may not write the biggest checks, but they have, in many ways, the biggest role to play because they're the foot soldiers in this whole process.
All right, here comes the class envy and the populism again, and uh Governor Huckabee has it 180 degrees out of phase.
It is those very people he's talking about who are being told by the powers that be, call them the Wall Street crowd or whatever.
We don't want you in our party anymore.
You embarrass us, and we don't want you there.
That's what they're saying of the social conservatives.
We don't want you there.
We're embarrassed to have you here.
The idea that Huckabee represents them is you know what's crazy.
He's not getting enough of a percentage here to uh propel himself to a victory.
By the way, a lot of people saying, Mike, get out of the race.
You have no chance of winning, and all you're doing is splitting up the vote.
Uh Huckabee came back and said, I think Mitt should get out of the race.
Hank Romney should get out of the race.
Um anyway, we've got a brief timeout here, folks.
We'll continue more sound bites and your phone calls right after this.
Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
Rush Limboy, powerful uh influential member of the media.
All right, the drive-by media still running my concession speech or my not concession speech that I gave last Wednesday in New York from Friday night's NBC Nightly News, the reporter at Kelly O'Donnell, uh, and the Southern Baptist Convention's Richard Land said this about me.
Romney is counting on help from Rush Limbaugh's megaphone.
There is a lot of anxiety among a lot of conservatives about Senator McCain.
But that's changing for some influential conservatives who see McCain as the likely nominee and fear infighting will hurt Republican chances in November.
Rush needs to get out and talk to average folk more.
That was Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention.
Now, I need to get out and talk to average folk more.
Now here we go.
I'm now I can't I can't believe this.
I'm an outsider now back to being an elite.
Uh Dr. Land, with all due respect, I speak to 20 million people a day, and they call me and they email me.
And I do, Dr. Land, speak to countless people in my travels around the country and so forth.
Where does this come from?
The assumption that I now am an elite, they can't keep it straight from one day or from one week to the next.
But do you notice again who's supposed to cave here?
According to this report, that is challenging for influential conservatives who see McCain as the likely nominee and they fear infighting will hurt Republican chances in November.
I'm just going to ask this point blank.
If the Republican pro if the Republican Party is going to nominate a liberal, how is it that anybody opposing him is going to cause the Republican Party problems in November?
The Republican Party's not a liberal party.
And if we're going to have a nominee who's going to reach out to liberals and is saying they got more polling, positive polling on their ideas than we do, how is it that somebody like me is going to destroy Republican Party unity?
How can it be said that I, one who remains loyal and practices fealty to the principles of conservatism?
How is it I who don't waver and people on my side of this, we do not waver, we stand firm, we haven't wavered in 20 years.
How is it we're going to get the blame for the Republican Party going down the tubes?
These people think it, they already know it.
There's going to be a unity problem.
Dr. Land, let me tell you something.
These average folk you're talking about, there are a whole lot more of them that think the way I am on this than are thinking the way you elites in the party are thinking that any nominee who can beat a Democrat is better than any other nominee.
That's simply not right.
People who have loyally supported the Republican Party, people have given money to it, do not want to sit around and see that money used to expand the party on a basis of attracting liberals with a liberal candidate.
And furthermore, they're not going to sit kindly to being told they're to blame for it by not compromising their principles for the sake of party unity.
The Republican Party for too long has asked this of conservatives.
Sacrifice a little here, sacrifice a little party unity is what matters.
A lot of Republicans are fed up with this.
You can go back to November 2006 and look at those returns if you doubt me.
I am not alone when I say to you elites of the Republican Party, punditry and elsewhere, party officials and what if you're gonna go out and move this party to the left, you're gonna take the hit for what happens to it.
We are not gonna sit here and take the blame because we wouldn't capitulate and unify.
We don't see the point of unifying with the left when they are making no compromises whatsoever.
So screw it.
You want to take the party your direction, you take it there, and you live and die by it.
If you believe so strongly and going in that direction.
We don't.
And most in this audience don't either.
And I say that with confidence and assurity.
Jake in Clearwater, Florida.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Oh, thank you, Rush, but you just said exactly what I was going to say, because uh compromising our principles is what you started off with.
I was uh selected as a delegate to go to the Republican uh convention in Orlando back in October, and October 20th and 21st at the debate.
And at that time, uh there was a small group of us conservatives that were called in and said that if we didn't compromise our situation or our position, we would end up with a Democrat in the White House.
And from that point on October the 20th, I decided, you know what?
I'm done compromising.
I'm always the one who asked the compromise.
Uh it's time for the moderates to There you have it.
There you have it, Dr. Land.
I'm done.
I quit.
There you have it, Dr. Land.
There you have it, McCain people.
And that was October 20th, October 20th and October 21st, and I still have the paperwork right here in front of me.
I hope my mom's listening today because I told her at the time, she said, Well, you can't just quit.
And I said, Yeah.
I said, I quit.
I give up.
If that's the best we've got, then that's the way it is.
We were also told at the time, too, Charlie Chris was going to take this this uh very uh staunch position for McCain when the time was right if McCain's position was where it was.
And it turns out Charlie Chris's timing was just exactly the way they said it was gonna come down, and it did.
Yeah.
And don't you think?
Meanwhile, meanwhile, Chris was telling everybody he was gonna stay neutral.
And then he made Rudy think that he was gonna not uh endorse him.
But you know, I look at you're a delegate, so this stuff matters to you, but these all these these these politicians endorsing other politicians.
We all know what that's about.
It's about the future, that's about power, that's about favors, that's about uh I mean they've all they've all picked sides, they've all figured that McCain's gonna win, they want to be on that side at the end of the day when the election's over, even if he loses.
They want to be on that side of the aisle after he gets a nomination, if he gets a nomination.
Um that's the way politics works.
But we here, folks, we are not politicians.
They come and go.
I am forever.
I am here as long as I choose to be.
As are you.
But I I this you heard it.
This this guy from Clearwater, a delegate, they told him to compromise if he wanted to stay a delegate.
It was up to him.
This party, this party is moving left.
It wants to go left.
It acts like it doesn't care.
Well, McCain is an American rush.
He's a patriot, he's a POW, he's got great care.
They're putting all these things up.
Notice they will not philosophize about McCain's positions.
They keep trying to sweep them under rugs, it doesn't matter.
Well, I listen to what he says and I listen to what his supporters are saying, and there is no question that they're going out of their way, even in the primaries, to attract support from liberals and independents and moderates.
After that, they expect unity in the general.
Don't ask me to tone it down.
I guess he's starting to sigh and concerned.
I appreciate that.
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