You better eat some macaroni and cheese to make up for the tax hit from 48 hours.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
It makes so little sense, it's not even worth asking what it means.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida, it's Open Line Friday.
No, It's not one of the mistresses.
It's a friend.
Female friend doesn't yet qualify for mistress status.
No, not this one, snurgling.
Not a mistress in waiting.
It ain't going to happen.
It's a long line anyway, and I need to add to it.
Open Line Friday greetings.
Greetings.
Oh, geez.
Just a second.
Greetings and welcome back.
Rush Limbaugh here, tribal leader.
What another big score for diversity.
Yes, David Brooks, New York Times, referred to me as leading a tribe.
And you people in the conservative side of this are the tribe.
We're the conservative triangle, the conservative tribe, and I'm the tribal leader.
Wow, that's a huge score for diversity.
You know, man, I'm going to go to some Indian casino and say, hi, I am Grand Pooh Bah Chief Rush.
El Rush Boy, I'm tribal leader.
Can you give me a blackjack table?
Anyway, you know the drill on Open Line Friday.
Whatever you want to talk about, complain, whine, moan, cheer, be optimistic.
If you want to try to fool us and squeeze in a campaign commercial for your candidate, give it a shot.
But we are on close watch for this.
And if we sense that that's what's happening, we'll zap you.
Phone number is 800-800-282-2882.
I'm here to tell you that the chocolate donut and potato chip therapy is not working.
It just isn't working.
Chocolate donut used to, but the magic, the magic is gone.
Now, I know what this is.
I know what I've come out of the humidity, which I've grown accustomed to, and I love it in Florida.
I come out, get up here to New York, as dry as it can be.
I got a little post-nasal drip here probably going on.
It does have nothing to do with it.
These guys, you know, I'm wearing shorts here.
I got off the airplane wearing shorts.
It was 18 degrees.
And everybody's looking at me like I'm an idiot.
I believe in comfort.
Generate a lot of heat doing this program.
This is not just sitting here.
Everybody thinks it's a sedentary job.
That has nothing to do with HR.
Everybody knows.
This is what mothers always told you.
You make sure you bundle up and stay warm.
It has nothing to do with fending off a virus or whatever it is.
If I were wearing long pants, you think I wouldn't have lost my voice.
Is that what you're saying?
That's what happens to you when you get kids.
You start treating everybody like one.
Okay, whatever you want to talk about, feel free.
I don't have to care about it.
That's what Open Line Friday is about.
Now, Judicial Watch.
I mentioned this in the previous hour.
They're the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption.
And they released, I think it was yesterday, records obtained from the Clinton Library and Massage Parlor related to the National Task Force on Hillary Healthcare Reform, a cabinet-level task force chaired by Mrs. Clinton during the administration.
Specifically, those documents came from the White House Healthcare Interdepartmental Working Group.
Here are the highlights of the documents released by Judicial Watch.
Listen to this.
A June 18th, 1993 internal memo entitled A Critique of Our Plan, authored by somebody in the White House with the initials PS, makes the startling admission that critics of Hillary's health care reform plan were correct.
Now, this is somebody in the White House who's analyzed Hillary's plan and is offering a critique of it.
I can think of parallels in wartime, but I have trouble coming up with a precedent in our peacetime history for such broad and centralized control over a sector of the economy.
Is the public really ready for this?
None of us knows whether we can make it work well or at all.
This is somebody in the administration, a task force designed to analyze their own plan.
Here's the next thing.
A confidential May 26th, 1993 memo by Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat West Virginia, a memo to Hillary entitled Healthcare Reform Communications, which criticizes the task force.
Now, the task force is the group that said, we, this is too big.
So Rockefeller, knowing of the memo in the White House, criticizes the task force as a secret cabal of Washington policy wonks that is engaged in choking off information from the public regarding health care reform.
The Rockefeller memo to Hillary, May 26, 1993, suggests that Hillary Clinton, quote, use classic opposition research, unquote, to attack those who were excluded by the Clinton administration from task force deliberations and to expose lifestyles, tactics, and motives of lobbyists in order to deflect criticism.
Senator Rockefeller also suggested that news organizations, quote, are anxious and willing to receive guidance from the Clinton administration on how to time and shape their news coverage of the Hillary health care reform plan.
Now, Rockefeller sends this memo to Hillary saying, here's how we're going to deal with the people trying to stop you.
We're going to expose their lifestyles with opposition to research.
We're going to expose their tactics and their motives of lobbyists and so forth.
This is a double dip.
It's bad enough that somebody in the White House suggested this plan is so big, I've never seen anything like this even in wartime.
I don't know that we can do it.
I don't know if the American people want this.
There are people in the administration that were upset about this.
This is massive.
Rockefeller was trying to shut them up.
And he was going in even one better.
All right, you don't like it.
We're going to go after you too.
Then there is a February 5th, 1993 draft memo from Alexis Herman and Mike Lux detailing the Office of Public Liaisons plan for the health care reform campaign.
The memorandum notes that the development of an interest group database detailing whether or not organizations supported us in the election.
The database would also track personal information about interest group leaders, such as their home phone numbers, addresses, biographies, analysis of credibility in the media, and known relationships with congresspeople.
What we are treated to, and these are White House documents, by the way, that are somehow Judicial Watch got the Clinton Library and Massage Parlor.
What we're discovering is what many of us have long known slash suspected, that the Clinton Inc. war room has no boundaries whatsoever, and that they will use the full force and the power of the federal government against individuals who are not supporting what they want to do.
And they'll do it by exposing lifestyles, threatening to do this, threatening to ruin them, harass them, find their phone numbers, their addresses, get their biographies, think 700 FBI files.
Now, these records released by Judicial Watch were obtained from the approximately 13,000 records made publicly available by the library and massage parlor.
The National Archives admits that there may be an additional 3,022,030 textual records, 2,884 pages of electronic records, 1,021 photographs, three videotapes, and three audio tapes related to the task force that are being withheld indefinitely from the public.
On November 2nd, 2007, Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit with the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against the National Archives to force the release of all the task force records.
These documents paint a disturbing picture of how Hillary Clinton and the Clinton administration approached healthcare reform secrecy, smears, and the misuse of government computers to track private and political information on citizens.
This statement here from Tom Fitton, who is the president of Judicial Watch.
There are millions more documents that the library has yet to release.
The Clintons continue to play games, pretend they have nothing to do with this delay.
They should get out of the way and authorize the release of these records.
There's no way.
And this is exactly why.
Now, to me, none of this surprises me.
The detail is stunning to have Rockefeller involved here.
I guess that shouldn't surprise me based on his attempts to sabotage victory in the Iraq war by trying to destroy the intelligence efforts with another famous memo of his.
But the, I mean, look at Dingy Harry with his smear letter of me was much the same thing.
The attempt, of course, that was not opposition research.
That was just an attempt to intimidate my syndication partner into getting me to shut up.
So the fact that this is who Democrats are, this is what liberals do.
And this has been one of the central themes of this program as I've spoken to you, the members of the tribe, for going on now 20 years to try to get you to understand who these people are.
And it's much easier to watch Hillary Clinton in a debate or Bill Clinton loses cool at a campaign event or in an interview, knowing full well what they've got in mind.
As Mrs. Clinton tries to portray herself as just a harmless little person, a woman who is, what's the best for the children and what's the best for the country?
Power mad.
We keep hearing about bipartisanship and getting rid of the divides that exist in this country.
Clintons don't care if there are divides.
Whoever gets in their way will be destroyed one way or the other.
That's the game plan.
It's been part of Playbook.
It always has been.
These documents that Judicial Watch just happen to give irreputable evidence of it.
We'll be back in just a sec.
And welcome back, El Rushbow, having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have here on the EIB network.
Now, I want to indulge or ask for your indulgence here for just a second to do some inside baseball stuff, meaning talk about the radio business.
I don't know how many of you have heard about this, but there's a trade publication in our business called Radio and Records.
And it's a good publication.
And I've received some, excuse me, I really apologize for this cracking voice I have today, but do not worry, my friends.
I am totally fine and healthy.
It's just an anomaly.
At any rate, I've received some awards from this magazine, and I know the editor, the publisher very well, Erica Farber, who, by the way, has been in a hospital during the period of time of this recent controversy that I'm going to describe to you has been bubbling up and raging.
They have a convention every year for talk radio.
They alternate between Santa Monica and Washington, D.C.
This year's, and it's in March, I think this year's is in Washington, D.C.
I was not scheduled to go.
I only go when I'm getting an award, which means, you know, every other year.
I could get one every year, but that would look bad.
So they were going to give, in fact, they announced that they were going to a lifetime achievement award to Bob Grant, who is one of the titans of the talk radio business.
He's at WABC.
He's currently working from 8 to 10 o'clock at night.
But he's been doing talk radio 50, 60 years.
And he genuinely was one of the pioneers.
And a lifetime achievement award for a guy like Bob Grant is entirely called for.
Well, all was hunky-dory until somebody, and we still don't know who, sent Radio and Records, which is owned corporately, by the way.
It's not owned by an individual.
It's corporate ownership.
I can't remember who it is.
It doesn't matter.
They rescinded the award after making a big hullabaloo about it, making a big announcement about it.
They rescinded it on the strength of one email from somebody complaining about Bob Grant for some, we don't even know what.
Assuming that they, hey, Bob's a racist.
You know, you heard what he said about Ron Brown and the plane crash and so forth.
And I just want to tell you a little bit about Bob Grant.
And it's a pleasure to do so.
I don't talk about very many of the people who do this for a living.
It's just a professional thing with me.
You just don't do it.
You focus on yourself and let other people handle themselves.
I got to New York in 1988.
I left Sacramento and got to New York in the summer of 1988.
And at the time, Bob Grant was WABC.
He worked in the afternoons.
WABC had fairly recently changed format from top 40.
Back in the old days of top 40 in the 60s and the 70s.
WABC in New York, one day had Mike, 20 and 30 shares.
I mean, they owned the town, but then FM came along and music on AM dwindled away.
And so WABC, at the time owned by ABC, decided to switch format and go talk.
And I've always thought that were it not for Bob Grant, when WABC made this format shift, you might not today know who WABC is.
Bob Grant belongs in the same discussion with Cousin Brucey and Dan Ingram and all of these other greats that spun records back in WABC's top 40 heyday.
And I remember getting to New York in 1988, and I was green, and I was a neophyte.
I was coming from Sacramento, and this was, I wasn't just going to do a national show.
I had to do a local show for two hours a day on WABC as well because they weren't going to carry the national show at first.
And folks, I can't tell you how dispirited I got the first month.
Here I am doing my show, and I'm doing my thing.
And every phone call I got wanted to talk about what Bob Grant had said the day before.
I'm on from 10 a.m. to noon, and I'm sitting there saying, are you people not listening to me?
You know, this was a, it was a, it was an adjustment.
It was, I mean, I didn't expect instant success.
I'm just, I'm trying to tell you how widely appreciated, listened to, followed Bob Grant was.
That even when he wasn't on the air, people wanted to talk about what he had said because they had been unable to get through to him that day because his lines were always full.
After a while, things began to take off for me, as you know.
And Bob Grant was amazing.
Most people in our business in his position would have been angry, jealous.
Some would have tried to undermine this newcomer.
Grant didn't do any of that.
His producers, people that worked for him, he was just nice and supportive.
He even had me on his program one afternoon.
And during this period of time, it seemed like every week there were three different camera crews coming in from networks that were taping segments of my program for their morning shows or whatever before I learned, you know, don't do that anymore because they're not actually helping.
And Grant saw these people going by.
He came in, why there's another crew coming in?
Why don't you steer them into my study?
He dealt with it just fabulously, had me on his program to help to promote mine.
He doesn't have a harmful bone in his body.
He would not hurt a flea.
He's one of the most gentle people.
He's like everybody in whatever level of showbiz, and this is radioed, his showbiz too.
There's a certain amount of showbiz required because there's a lot of competition.
You can't just get on the radio and mumble and have people listen to you.
Well, take that back.
There's some big mumbler out there, and I can't put my name on it.
I think the mumbler is actually on television.
He was huge at WABC, but he didn't want all the glory.
He wanted his station to succeed as well, which is why he was very supportive of me.
This comment about Ron Brown's airplane going down over there in Bosnia and so forth, there's nobody could ever convince me that Bob Grant was actually going to celebrate somebody's death.
But it's hung around.
He got fired because of it.
But I think it's extremely cowardly that this Radio and Records bunch can rescind an award they had bestowed simply because of one letter from a malcontent.
We're losing to political correctness.
Grant deserves a lifetime achievement award from a whole lot of people, not just the trade magazine.
It is open line Friday, and people have been patiently waiting.
Let's go back to the phones.
And don't forget Ken Hutcherson, the Reverend Dr. Ken Hutcherson from Seattle, at the top of the next hour as we discuss these two fabulous, these great football games coming up on Sunday, the AFC and NFC Championships.
Darrell in Nashville, it's your turn, sir.
Hey, Rush.
Hey.
Third time caller, GoFred, proud tribal member since 1989.
Thank you, sir.
Hey, I talked to you about 15 years ago, and that was the last time, and it took me this long.
And just because I had my wisdom teeth pulled out yesterday, and I'm sitting at home, and I thought I'd call you to ask you a Friday question, if you don't mind.
Fire away.
All right.
I've noticed that when you play excerpts from a TV interview, you will always read the question, or by and large, typically read the question from the interviewer.
And you always play the audio version from the interviewee.
And I've been curious why you do that.
It's two things.
It's actually a good question for those who are interested in this.
It's a matter of manners and a matter of ethics.
And I guess a third thing, legalities.
The reason that we don't play the actual questions of the news journalists or the TV host is because they don't work here.
So we technically are not entitled to their work.
We're not entitled to use theirs.
I mean, we could ask permission and they'd probably give it to us, but I don't want to do that.
But the people they're interviewing are the newsmakers.
And that's subject to fair usage.
Now, you might hear an audio soundbite now and then where we'll play an exchange where the host asks a question, making the use of a sentence.
If it's just a sentence, and then the newsmaker is, for the most part, the focus of the bite, then that's not considered a violation of anything.
So that's a simple answer.
They don't work for us.
It's not a matter of paying for us.
It's a matter of not stealing their work.
You know, they're being paid, for example, by PMSNBC, which, by the way, PMSNBC is DNC-TV, Democrat National Committee TV.
They're making no bones about it.
But those people work there.
They work at CNN or they work at wherever, Fox.
They don't work here.
So we're not entitled to their work.
And that's the way I look at it.
And by the way, we enforce the same thing on usage of this program.
Anybody wants to use a portion here of the program beyond a couple sentences, they call and get permission.
Sometimes we grant it.
Most times we don't because it's drive-bys and they want to take it out of context and get it wrong.
And we don't let them use it.
But Rush, but Rush, you're passing up such a great promotion.
I don't need a promotional opportunity on a cable network with 200,000 viewers.
I'm going to have my work on a cable network, 200,000 viewers.
It's going to be done right.
It's not going to be done.
Reno, Nevada.
Bill, welcome to the program, sir.
Great to have you.
Thank you, Rush.
It's a pleasure talking to you.
Thank you.
Listen to you for many years.
There was a comment earlier this week on radio about the lack of experience of the Democratic nominees for the presidential race.
And I remember in 1972, I voted for George McGovern.
And years later, listening to PBS, I heard an interview with Mr. McGovern.
And he had gotten into a business venture in New England and was a bed and breakfast that went bankrupt.
Oh, yes.
He and his partners lost their money.
I remember.
And he stated that if he had known what business was like, he would have voted differently in the Senate.
He said specifically, your memory is fabulous.
He said if he had known what it took to make a payroll, he had never run a business.
It was a little inn or bed and breakfast, right?
A little hotel or something.
And it was in New England.
Yep, up in Maine somewhere, I think.
Up in Maine.
He and his partners lost it.
Yep.
And so that sort of brings it to the forefront is what is your opinion of the experience level of these different Republican as well as Democratic people that are trying to get into the White House?
I mean, like Bush, he always seemed to be what he was, you know, and that's why I voted for him.
But after that thing from McGovern, it just really, I always thought, you know, who knows what they're doing?
This is not hard to understand.
It's hard to explain why voters don't care about it, but it's not hard to understand.
I mean, even you're familiar with David Broder, David Broner, the dean of Washington columnist, the Washington Post.
He wrote a piece yesterday.
He said, you know, these Democrat candidates are running around here and they're talking about all this experience.
He said, they don't have any.
They don't have any businesses.
Not one of them has ever run a business.
None of them know the first thing about it.
And he said, this is really going to come back to haunt them on election day.
Right now, it doesn't matter because it's primaries.
But any number of these Republicans are going to be able to say that they have run businesses, that they've made payrolls, and they've turned them around and they've made big successes out of their businesses in the private sector.
Now, the Democrats from Hillary to Obama, and those are the two violence.
Well, let's throw Edwards in there too.
I mean, he's run a business, an ambulance chasing firm, but that's a little, you ought to mine for money in one of those things.
You know, you troll the streets looking for injured people.
If you're John Edwards, you need movement to make money.
You need people moving around getting in accidents.
That's not really entrepreneurial.
You know, it's just having sharp eyes and making sure you're the first lawyer in the scene.
But these other Democrats, Bill, they don't care about if you listen to Hillary and Obama, what are they going to do to business?
They're going to punish it.
They're going to take ExxonMobil's profits.
Hillary said this.
They're going to make sure that these businesses stop screwing the American people.
Business to them is a competitor.
To them, the only thing that matters, they're liberals.
The only thing that matters is government.
That's their source of power, and that's where they're going to utilize it.
And everybody is a potential target to liberals if they have to be brought in line, including business.
So to them, having no business experience is perfect because they can say we have been corrupted.
They think, well, they want people to believe that they think that all business is corrupt, that it cheats people, that it steals, that it treats employees unfairly, that it fires them left and right, only pay the CEO a lot of money, and they deserve to be punished.
And they get votes on this basis called class envy.
So I think Mr. Broder, I hope he's right, but I don't think that a lot of Democrat voters, a lot of liberal voters, give a rat's rear end about the fact that Democrat candidates don't understand business.
But it does point up one of the, you know, the real, real problems is that when you're liberal and you believe in government, folks, your big enemy is capitalism.
Your big enemy is freedom and liberty enjoyed by the American people.
Your biggest friend is an always-expanding government with more and more power.
And that's why liberals get so cranky and out of sorts when they don't run the government because they can't do anything without it.
They cannot empower people.
Well, that's mistaken to say.
They don't want to empower people.
They want to enslave people.
They want to make people dependent.
And they can't do that if they don't have control of the government.
They are totally at a loss when the government's not actively engaged in creating more and more dependence.
People will more and more fend for themselves.
This is the ongoing battle.
And that's anathema to liberals.
So it's a great question.
I'm glad you called with that because as far as liberals and a lot of their voters are concerned, business is to be screwed.
Business is to be gotten even with.
Business is to be cut down to size.
Business is to be CEOs that are punished, taxed through the roof.
So the little guy feels like the big guy feels some pain too.
Pure and simple.
Build in Salt Lake City.
Welcome to the program.
Great to have you here.
Yes, a longtime listener.
I've been listening to you since 1985 when I was stationed north of Sacramento in the Air Force.
Oh, 22 years.
Yep, one of the local civilians up there turned me on to you.
We listened to you as we worked.
Hell, I got a question about some stimulating the economy.
Wouldn't anybody better be focused towards business?
Now they do a lot to generate growth in our economy.
How do you mean?
Tax cuts for business or yes, definitely tax cuts.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to have to wait and see the details of what the president's proposed.
It's $145 billion, but from what he said, the vast majority of it is tax cuts.
And he made a big, big deal about making the current tax rate reductions permanent beyond 2010.
He reminded people the big tax increase is going to happen if those things are not made permanent.
But about your point, when you look at small business, small business is the largest employer of people in the country.
And a lot of small businesses who are subchapter S corporations are allowed to file their tax returns on an individual 1040.
And so a stimulus package that does include significant tax cuts will end up benefiting a lot of subchapter S corp businesses.
Small businesses, those businesses that do take the option of filing a personal 1040 form will benefit from this.
And this, I'm sure, is something not lost on the administration.
All right, let's, before we get back to the phones, let's talk about Senator McCain here for just a second.
There is a phenomenon happening in South Carolina.
And that is very liberal areas of South Carolina.
One of the areas with a lot of liberals in it is Charleston, where Rhett Butler was from.
And a newspaper in Charleston, the Post and Courier, has an editorial today.
Well, actually, this is the 18th or so.
It was yesterday.
And here's the headline.
And the headline explains the martyrdom of John McCain, what's happening there.
Give Senator.
Yeah, just hang on here.
Give Senator McCain the South Carolina victory he deserves.
Deserves.
Why does McCain deserve it and Thompson not?
Why does McCain deserve it and Romney not?
Why does McCain deserve it and Huckabee not?
And that can be explained if you go to thepolitico.com and find their story on the martyrdom of John McCay, McCain.
And basically, it's this: the politico story is all about how McCain critics, meaning me, have turned him into a martyr in South Carolina and how his campaign hopes his critics, me, keep it up.
Now, part and parcel of this is that, and they go out and they talk, ostensibly, it's anecdotal, but they'd love for you to extrapolate this to mean, to include it means everybody.
They went out and talked to a bunch of Bush voters, people who voted for Bush in 2000, South Carolina, who now think they made a mistake.
They made a mistake because they were so mean to McCain back then.
They really dumped it.
You know, the rumor about a family, the kid rumor, whatever it was.
That wasn't what did it.
When McCain lashed out at the evangelicals and two, that's what did him in.
He was already trying to move to the left, become an independent moderate, and that's when he made the move.
Well, he'd already succeeded, I guess, in New Hampshire and Michigan, but that killed it.
And so now, because of the war and because of the recession and because of all of the angst that so many of us in this country are feeling, Mr. Limbaugh, the Republicans in South Carolina get a do-over from 2000.
Yes.
So once again, we have liberal drive-by media telling Republican voters how they should vote.
Now they're entitled to do it.
It is the media.
But folks, I don't know, I don't know how to drum this into your head.
When liberals in the media tell you how to vote, let me just ask you, what do you think their objective is?
When liberals in the media suggest you need to vote for this, this person deserves it.
Do you think that they want the liberals in South Carolina, the liberals anywhere in the country, you think they really want either Huckabee or McCain because when we get to November, they're going to endorse either Huckabee or McCain over Hillary?
Do you really think that?
I got into a little bit of an argument last night.
I had to have a great time at dinner last night until the argument came up.
And it wasn't that I couldn't make any headway in the argument.
It was that the argument came up, but it was about McCain.
And it was with a woman.
I should have known it was a social thing, should not, but I got fired up.
I got, no, no, no, no.
Voice was starting to go yesterday before this, snurdily.
He always thinks that the woman might have sabotaged me by putting something in the coffee.
No, no, no, no, it wasn't that.
But I said, I make my living with my mouth and what comes out of it, known as words.
And Senator McCain has just succeeded or did succeed in the first successful anti-constitutional abridgment of the First Amendment.
It's not just say, well, yeah, of course we don't like McCain Feingold.
And then I said, it's not that we don't like global warming.
It's what it represents.
It's not just, yeah, global warming.
I don't care about global warming.
You should.
It's going to mean the loss of a lot of freedom.
I told him the story about the thermostats in California.
We didn't want to believe it.
Thought that was kook stuff.
And then I finally said, this was what caused the contretant to become more than just a little.
There were seven of us around the table.
I said, she said, you really want Hillary to win?
You really think?
Because McCain's the only guy that can beat Hillary.
She said, look at the national polls.
I looked, I said, let me explain this.
What I'm trying to tell you is.
And by the way, the McCain people in South Carolina should love me right now during this segment because I'm contributing to his martyrdom and his do-over.
And you Republicans in South Carolina, why?
Yeah, you really screwed up back in 2000.
You get to make it right on Saturday.
Fine, go ahead.
I said to her, what you're missing is that if Senator McCain is the nominee, we're going to get Hillary.
Oh, and that was grabbed a napkin practically off the left, didn't throw.
Oh, that's silly.
Oh, that's ridiculous.
I couldn't exactly hear what she said, but it was downhill from there.
I was telling somebody else this story today, and well, did you win the argument?
I said, no, I failed to persuade the woman.
But that's not what upset me.
What upset when the argument happened in the first place?
Because it was a, actually it was a celebratory occasion.
But we brought it back.
to civility, a hell of a lot more civil than what the Democrats are going through out in Nevada and so forth right now.
But I got, I don't care about this, I don't care about that, I don't care about global warming, I don't care his position on campaign finance, I don't care about the immigration.
I want to beat Hillary.
I want to beat Hillary by being Hillary, otherwise it's not going to happen.
Yeah, I know.
She did say, look, Monica made her living word of mouth, too, and she's doing all right.