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Dec. 19, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 19, 2007, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Just hang on.
Hang on.
Late arriving show prep.
I'm getting all these stories.
Well, Rush, you laugh about Brittany Spears' sister being pregnant, but it was a lead story in Boston TV last night.
So what?
We have not yet stooped to the levels of the drive-bys on this program, and I doubt that we will.
I see Snirdly still has the call up there.
No.
Now my take on Harris Tilton.
I told Snerdley to get me a couple Paris.
Now he's getting obstinate.
You know, now he says, okay, you humiliate me in front of the whole audience.
I'll give you what you say you want.
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All right, the Hillary Clinton campaign is now off on its likability phase.
And Howard Kurtz, let me get this back to the Twitter here.
Howard Kurtz has a story today.
For Clinton, a matter of fair media, Senator's camp insists that the press is holding her to a tougher standard.
Well, of course it does, Howard.
I mean, she's telling everybody she's got far more experience than everybody else, so she ought to be held to a different standard, the experience standard.
After weeks of bad news, Hillary Clinton and her strategists hoped that winning the endorsement of the Des Moines Register might produce a modest bump in their media coverage.
But on Sunday morning, they awoke to the upbeat headlines about their rival, Obama.
Clinton's senior advisors have grown convinced the media deck is stacked against them, that their candidate is drawing far harsher scrutiny than Barack Obama, and at least some journalists agree.
She's just held to a different standard in every respect, says Mark Halperin.
And by the way, Halperin also says in this story that if you get to the bottom of it, reporters would much rather have Obama as the nominee.
They just, it's like we suspected a long time ago.
They're just worn out with the Clintons.
There's no news there, and frankly, they're probably tired of sweeping things under the rug.
So anyway, I don't know how many of you people have been to Iowa.
I have.
But this story clearly makes it sound like the Clinton camp is whining and moaning about the media.
Iowans do not like whiners.
They're tough people.
Even the Democrat liberals up there.
They're tough people and whining about media or anything else is not becoming.
Now let's listen to the latest iteration.
Mrs. Clinton from, what was it, experience and then change.
Now we're to likability.
Oh yeah.
Title of Tune is Stupid Girl and the name of the group is Garbage.
There's another story about the Clintons in the New York Times today.
It's the most, it's just the most amazing thing.
Now, there's just one line in this thing that really stuck out at me.
Now another major question faces the Clinton team in Iowa.
Did it wait too long to try to humanize Hillary?
The presidential cockee are a little more than two weeks away.
Mrs. Clinton's negative poll ratings remain high, and some of her advisors wanted to accentuate her personal side earlier.
What word in that couple of sentences that I just read just leaps out at you?
Yeah, I know it's hard when you're listening to it, you're not looking at it.
The word to me is try.
Did the Clinton team in Iowa wait too long to try to humanize Hillary?
To try, meaning it requires an effort, meaning that it might not work, meaning might not work, it hasn't worked.
I mean, they waited too long.
There's not enough time to humanize her.
They had to start earlier if they were going to pull that off, meaning they have to do it.
She can't.
That has always been the rub.
You know, folks, we all in public life, even I, Il Rushbo, have a public image.
And people that do not listen to this radio program, and you know them and you've talked, they think things of me that you who listen regularly and daily can't possibly agree with because you know they're not true.
So my critics, of which there are some, have crafted an image of me that is not accurate in terms of who I really am.
But you who listen every day know what the real me is.
And people that work with me here at the EIB network are constantly asked, is Rush like that off the air too?
Meaning, is this an act in the radio?
Right?
I mean, when he gets off there, he's like everybody else.
He's mad.
He creams at you and he's a tyrant, right?
No, no, no.
He's like that all the time, is what they say.
But with Mrs. Clinton, look at what her public image is.
There's nobody that thinks she's optimistic.
Nobody thinks she's likable.
Now, maybe people who know her intimately, like I've been lobbied about Mrs. Clinton way back when I did those hearts of fire shows with Marky Post and Metal Block.
Yeah, Harry and Linda Bloodware Thomason were the writers, the producers, the creators of the show.
And I can remember Linda Bloodware Thomason, who grew up in Poplar Bluff, just a little bit south of where I grew up.
Oh, Hillary's so sweet.
She loves umbrella drinks.
That's what she said.
She loves umbrella drinks.
Like piña colada is out there while dancing on a beach with Bill with no music in the Virgin Islands.
But they're having to work too hard at this.
Let's cut to the chase.
All of this is irrelevant anyway, because the dirty little secret is her personality has always been a problem.
We already know her.
They can't fix that in a matter of weeks.
So cut through all of this BS.
The Democrats are having to decide whether or not to reject Bill Clinton.
That's what this is all about.
The dirty little secret is that it is not about Hillary anymore.
It's about Bill.
He's front and center.
He is all over the place.
He is running into grocery stores.
He's going off message.
He's giving the security people fits.
He's drawing huge crowds.
They're going nuts in there.
The Democrats are asking for autographs, posing for pictures.
If she were on her own without Bill, she wouldn't, and we've said this countless times, she would not be a serious candidate.
She is pushing Bill out front.
People, oh, look at Clinton.
Well, he can't help himself.
Well, he's upstaging.
Nope.
She's pushing him out there, folks, because she knows that the Democrats are deciding whether to finally cut ties with him or not.
That's the way the Clintons view it, too.
Now, they're not going to say this.
They will not confirm that this is correct if anybody were to ask them about it, but that's why he's out front all over the place.
This is not, I mean, he's got an uncontrollable ego, but he's not out there off-message in terms of upstaging his wife and possibly doing her harm.
He is putting himself out there as a third-term president who's not on the ballot.
That's what this is all about.
The Clintons are viewing this as a referendum on him as well as Hillary.
And he wants back in the White House in the worst way.
Upstaging her.
It has to be, if that's what's happening, it has to be with her approval because she knows that alone she is toast.
Their mutual goal is power.
Get back to the White House to get it.
She doesn't care how.
She wants the presidency.
But the Clintons want the Democrat voters to see this as a vote for Bill.
They do, folks.
Why is he out there all over the place?
And why is he out there saying things like, well, I'm going to have Hillary's going to send me.
I got to send George Bush 41 around the world.
Repair America's evidence.
I mean, a bigger lie, no bigger lie has been told.
And that's saying something.
Clinton, George Bush had to come out and say, I haven't talked to him about that, and I would never do it.
But the crowds that Clinton's speaking to, the Democrats, the delegates at the convention, made up of their lunatic fringe base, love hearing this kind of thing, whether it's true or not.
She has already thrown aside any concern about this looking like she needs Bill to win.
She's not worried about that anymore.
She's already calculated she doesn't care how this makes her look.
She wants the power.
So does he.
They both believe the way to get it is to run Bill for a third term, but without saying so, especially here in these primaries.
This wasn't so a month ago, but I think this is the major policy change that's happened that nobody's picking up on.
This was not the case a month ago when she thought she could glide to like a coronation of a nomination.
But they have clearly changed strategies now.
I don't think Bill's as popular with the American people, but he is popular with the people in the Democrat Party who run for delegate positions, the party leaders, the party elders, and the party operatives.
He's far more popular than she is.
So what we're watching here in Iowa, and we'll see if it continues in a New Hampshire.
He's in South Carolina too.
This is a third term of Bill Clinton without him being on the ballot because she can't do it by herself.
And so this is a referendum on him.
And I think if you Democrat voters in Iowa and New Hampshire haven't considered this possibility, you should start now because all that you're seeing up there is being made to look like Bill writing to the rescue or Bill off message or Bill this maybe sabotaging.
Hell, it's not that.
It's putting Bill out there because they know he's far more popular with Democrat primary voters than Hillary is.
And he wants it so bad Becky could taste it as well.
Back after.
Ha, welcome back.
We'll be getting to your phone calls here in an El Giffo.
Just one more story on this likability business.
This is by the Infobabe Beth Fuy at the Associated Press.
It's an analysis piece, which means that this means that the reporter is admitting it, putting her bias in the piece, whereas news stories, the bias is not admitted to.
So when you see analysis by an Infobabe reporter read or any guy, it just means they're putting their opinion in it and admitting it.
And the pull quote is this.
Hillary Clinton says, I know people say we've got to know more about her, know more about her personally.
It's not easy for me to talk about myself.
It's just not easy for Mrs. Clinton to talk about her.
It makes her uncomfortable.
And, of course, it's a very safe modus operandi because it's very hard to keep track of all those lies.
And so the less you talk, the less you have to remember which lie you told who when.
Clinton is not bothered by this.
She is.
But the writer here, Beth Fuye, seems stunned that Mrs. Clinton has this problem of likability.
Indeed, in an AP Yahoo News national poll released last month, just 41% of voters said Clinton was likable, compared with 54% for Obama and 49% for Edwards.
Drive-bys are just stunned by what is very old news.
This has been the case since the 90s.
They seem to be shocked by the fact here, folks, that not everyone in this country just loves and is willing to bow down and curtsy to Hillary Clinton.
It's just like they do not understand the anger and the frustration over illegal immigration.
They are stunned when they go to the outskirts of Iowa and they find people in small towns just fed up about it.
I can't believe it.
So talk about being out of touch.
Drive-bys.
Back to the phones.
This is North Canton, Ohio.
Rick, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Yes, thanks for doing what you do.
I just wanted to make a comment on the whole Hillary appearance issue.
Yeah.
And I just want to say, it seems that the left is always willing to embrace appearance, except for when it works at their disadvantage.
And I'm reminded of the Nixon-Kennedy debate.
People that listen to that on the radio thought Nixon was a clear-cut winner.
But the people that watched on TV came out with, I think, 60 or just a shade over 60% of the people said that Kennedy won that debate.
No question about it.
Strictly on appearance.
Strictly on appearance.
Don Hewitt, who recently retired from 60 Minutes, made Kennedy up, applied some makeup, didn't give Nixon any.
Nobody thought to use it.
It's black and white TV.
And of course, Nixon broke out with the sweat on the upper lip there.
And it was all over.
Now, look, this is my point.
Appearance in the visual arts and politics of visual art, because it's on television, matters.
It just does.
Now, it's a little less important.
The smaller the election, the smaller state election, not that big a deal.
Local election, even less big a deal.
Nationally, though, this kind of stuff, when you're talking about presidents, it matters.
I can't remember the names off the top of my head, but if you go back prior to the advent of television, we had some Tubbs as president.
We had some huge guys, fat guys, Chester Allen Arthur, Warren Harding, pig by today's standards.
But back then, it was a sign of success.
Overweight men, titans.
It was a sign of prominence, sign of power, sign of great wealth and success.
Today doesn't say that at all.
It says it as an image.
It says something, no discipline, doesn't care, slob.
No matter how well-dressed you are, no matter how neatly coiffed you are, if you're fat, you're still a pig.
And if you're on television and you're fat, you're either a character actor and nobody knows your name, but you're not prominent.
Well, a couple of exceptions.
Well, yeah, look at what happened to Orson Welles when he ballooned up.
He ended up selling wine on Monday night football.
Who else out there?
Burl Ives made it for a while.
But what?
Jed Jack, Jackie Glee.
But Jackie, you know, he tried.
Jackie Gleason was roller coastering up, and now you lost the weight.
There was a Jackie Gleason diet.
But Jackie Gleason used to eat over at Patsy's.
He had all those sausages and stuff.
I mean, Joy would take the stuff over to where he lived.
Marlon Brando, yeah, as soon as he's ballooned up, it was goodbye don vito correlione.
And he got a couple roles after, but it's just the way it is, folks.
You know, aging on women in public, like presidents, probably has the same effect as men who once were very Sveld and studly ballooning up.
It's just the way it is.
It's sad, but that's the way our culture is.
That's all I was talking about the other day.
Here's David in Atlanta, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello, sir.
Longtime, fifth-time mega-dittos.
Rush, I've got to give you credit once again.
I think your astute analysis is what's behind, at least for a large part, Huckabee's recent swipe at George W. Bush for not pulling something like the surge sooner.
When you said that you think the liberals are trying to paint Huckabee as another Bush so they can run against Bush again, not that he is exactly, but they're trying to paint him that way.
I think you were dead on.
Well, there's no question that the influence of this program spreads far and wide and it impacts in ways that we will never even know.
So you could be right.
It could well be that Huckabee or Huckabee's team heard the theory, which I do not retract, by the way.
I think the theory is, Kurt, they've invested so much on the Democrat side in their base, that lunatic fringe bunch on the blogs.
They've invested in so much hatred for Bush that they need Bush on the ballot.
And they are not going to get Bush on the ballot unless they can turn one of the Republican candidates into Bush, with, of course, the aid of the drive-by media.
And so Huckabee, I think, fits the bill.
I mean, he, you know, Bush touts his faith publicly.
Huckabee does.
Bush.
Illegal immigration got pretty much the same laissez-faire attitude about it that Bush does.
So it could well be that Huckabee took some steps.
You know what I want to hear, Mama?
I want to hear chipmunks roasting on an open fire and Yorgie Jorgensen before the program's over.
Welcome back.
By the way, I need to correct myself.
Warren Harding was not fat.
In fact, he was nominated because he looked like a president back in those days.
It was Taft and McKinley and Cleveland and Garfield were the fat guys that were elected president.
Here is Jesse in Roanoke, Virginia.
Thank you for waiting and welcome to the EIB network.
Rush mega collegian ditto.
Thank you, sir.
I just got a question about the ethanol part of this new bill that the Senate's going to get a stupid energy bill, you mean?
Yeah.
I want to know what you think the price of a can of corn is going to cost in 10 years.
Corn is already at a record price.
The price for corn is, in fact, this is kind of funny in a way because the biofuels and the environmentalist wackos are, once again, the unintended consequences are backfiring on them.
Corn prices are through the roof, but it's not because of food.
It's because of biofuels.
The U.S. Congress overwhelmingly approved yesterday a bill raising fuel efficiency standards for the first time since 1975, offering massive support for biofuels in an effort to slash U.S. dependence on foreign oil.
Now, the U.N. says that we had the story yesterday, a story yesterday, wheat prices are at an all-time high.
Then the UN had a story about food shortages, worldwide food shortage.
And do you know why?
Biofuels.
So much agricultural land is now being devoted to this fad, biofuels, ethanol, and all this, forgive me, Iowans, that they're not producing as much corn and wheat, food staples, and the price is skyrocketing, of course, because there's less of it for food.
So even the UN, which has a branch that's peddling the global warming hoax, which is urging the use of biofuels and all these alternative, like, I want to see you get on an airplane and go 600 miles an hour with a propeller or windmill on the top of it.
These people, and I feel so sorry for them in Oklahoma.
Some of them still without power in the dead of winter in the middle of global warming with it nowhere in sight.
And this is exactly what the environmentalist wackos want.
They want coal-fired power plants shut down.
This would be the practical effect.
The UN, on the other hand, says that biofuels are causing a shortage of food.
This is, you know, I'll tell you what this is.
CAFE standards, his energy bill, is global warming, all this stuff is reminiscent.
It's taking a little bit longer to occur.
It's reminiscent of the knee-jerk reaction to the Dubai Ports deal.
There was no thinking about the Dubai Ports deal.
That was strictly jingoism.
That was, oh my God, Duboy, Arab terrorist ports, no!
Screaming, bloody murder, Democrats, Republicans trying to be the first erase to the microphone, saying it ain't going to happen.
When in fact, it was harmless.
But nobody cared about the details.
Ignorance, folks.
Ignorance is the most expensive commodity we pay for in this country.
And this whole energy bill, this emphasis on biofuels and alternative energy sources, no focus on nuclear, no focus on more petroleum, no focus on the things that produce energy and a growing economy.
Nothing.
This is irresponsible.
It's absolutely stupid.
And it's made possible by the ignorance of a bunch of people who think that we are in a crisis that we are not in.
And if you want to see the future exactly as the environmentalist wackos and these nerds at the UN have in mind, take a look at Oklahoma during the ice storm.
And if you think I'm exaggerating, wake up.
What do you get if you put coal-fired power plants out of business with nothing to replace them?
If you're not going to go nuclear, if you're not going to use oil and petroleum products, you're not going to use fossil fuels, what are you going to do?
Sorry, folks, we're not there yet.
And no act of Congress is going to get us there.
Mother is the necessity, or necessity is the mother of invention, whatever.
A little verbal dyslexia, but you get the point.
Justin and Sioux Falls, South Dakota, nice to have you with us on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Thanks for taking the phone call.
Say, sorry to change up subjects, Sonya, but I just thought it'd be something on a little bit lighter note.
What do you think about this whole Spears family spreading like wildfire now?
The second Spears sister having a child with a man that's old enough to go to jail for it.
Do you think there is anything extraordinary about the Spears family spreading like wildfire?
The Spears family is not the only family spreading like wildfire.
There are countless American families that have 16-year-olds that go out and get pregnant.
You just don't know about them because their sisters aren't on television or they're not.
Take a look at the Jerry Springer show.
That's a good point.
If you want to be concerned about what's this Spears name?
Jamie Lynn?
Is that her name?
Yeah, Jamie Lynn.
Jamie, whatever.
You want to be concerned about us.
Go watch the Jerry Springer show.
Now, that's cause for concern because they're practically, these families are propagating in front of our eyes on that show.
Sure.
But This is what's happening to these people is no different than what happens to a lot of families in this country, except their lives are on TV.
Would you tend to think that a family in this position, though, wouldn't you think that there would be a more watchful eye as a parent to be watching over these kids so this doesn't happen though?
Well, I would certainly hope so, but it's long time past for this to happen.
The parents here are the culprits.
I mean, the parents are there, they're infected with this disease, this addiction to fame themselves.
Look at Britney's mom for crying out, put me on TV too, put me on TV.
You know, celebrity parents can go both ways, and some of them lose whatever grounding they had as adults.
When their kids get famous, they want to be part of it.
They like the money themselves.
It's very rare to have celebrity parents that remain grounded.
But, you know, who's going to get this family in line?
The parents are out there making as big a mess of their own lives as the kids are.
Plus, the real sick thing about it is, the end of the day, I don't care what the Britney Spears camp says or the Jamie whatever name Spears camp, they love the attention.
It's their job to get it.
That's what's perverse about this.
You know, I have a minimal amount of fame compared to people on television and movies.
And I don't like the stuff I've got, but it is what it is.
But these people that have to go out and get taken pictures by the paparazzi, they have to go out to these nightclub openings at 2 o'clock in the morning and make sure they're photographed there.
They have to go to all these things.
Their job is to get noticed.
Their job is to be taken and have pictures taken.
I could not stand it to have that as a measure of success because that's phony.
There's no substance to it whatsoever.
It's purely symbolic.
And if you don't have any solid foundation that props you up behind all that, then you get caught up in it.
When that stuff doesn't happen, then you feel worthless and you have to strike out and start getting attention in other ways.
I love the Spears family.
It's really a sad thing.
There ought to be education for young kids who are about to get into business is going to have a lot of fame attached to it.
Then there are people that could teach it because it's necessary.
It destroys people's lives.
The quest for it.
Then when they get it, it's not what they think it's going to be.
And then that's something that requires adjusting to.
And then when they lose it, that's the worst because they got to get it back because they feed off of it.
And the problem with it is the problem of being oriented and focused on fame as a measure of success is that you have turned over who you are to the opinions of others.
You have, in essence, said to yourself, I don't care who I am.
It doesn't matter.
I care what they think I am.
And I'm going to have to do whatever they think I am and be whatever they want me to be in order to be liked and have fame and all this.
And you lose your identity and you become a psycho.
And it's happening right before our very eyes.
And of course, the drive-bys, the entertainment drive-bys, they love it.
The bigger the train back, the bigger the ratings on entertainment tonight.
The bigger the train wreck, Brittany Spears shaving her head in a moment of who knows what was going through her mind.
Look at the pictures that that probably sold for in all the magazines and so forth.
It's just a vicious, vicious cycle.
And then the same drive-bys who promote this kind of thing by covering it and making it a big deal, then give us these sanctimonious stories later about the tragedy of this celebrity or that celebrity.
It's sort of like ESPN in sports.
I think ESPN is destroying sports as we know it.
I mean, you take a look at Terrell Owens.
Now, he's behaving this year.
But in prior years, why do you think Terrell Owens was Terrell Owens?
I remember.
I remember that night game, a Monday night game when ABC still had it, Seattle Seahawks and the Fortiners, and he pulled a Sharpie out of his sock after scoring a touchdown, autographed the ball, gave it to a fan in the stands.
Everybody's, oh, isn't that cool?
Why?
That's fun.
This is what the league needs.
I said, I'm warning you people.
You promote this and you're going to get more expressions because they're going to get on a highlight reel.
They're going to want to get noticed.
They're going to want to get endorsements.
And that begot all these silly end zone things.
And then these guys acting macho and thuggish on the field in the middle of the game trying to get in a highlight reel.
And then at the same time, we get these sanctimonious stories about why is Terrell Owens behaving this way?
Does he have no loyalty to the team?
Look at yourselves in the sports media and who's promoting this stuff and who's making big bucks off of it.
The same thing with these, I don't think it's just young celebrities, it's celebrities in general.
I maintain to you that 95% of the people who get into the celebrity game and the fame game because they have a desire for it, even if it's equal to the desire to do good work as an actor, actress, whatever it is.
But if nobody sits them down and tells them what's going to happen to them with the fame game, they have no clue.
And it weirds them out because they'll profess not to like it.
They'll do everything they can to hide from the paparazzi, but notice they never quite pull it off.
The paparazzi seem to always find them.
How can that be?
I have found ways to elude them.
It's possible to do.
Now, I'm not in as great a pursuit by these people, but I have had my moments.
I've had, and I shook them.
There are ways to do it.
Dirty little secret is all these people get PR people.
Call a paparazzi whoever, guess what?
Pst, Britney Spears is going to be going to barbershop with a couple of minutes.
You think these people just happen to hang out at hairstylist salons all day long waiting to see who might pop in?
Their time is valuable too.
This whole thing's a vicious cycle.
It's a dirty little secret.
And this little kid getting pregnant, 16 years old.
Yeah, I hope I'm wrong.
I hope I'm wrong.
But at some point, you will do anything to get in the news.
Keep your name alive and visible.
And some people don't have very many limits about what they'll do.
Back in just a sec.
Talent on loan from God.
You have to say God.
It just doesn't have the authority to say talent on a loan from God.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
You have to know, as I do, how to parse the words of Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and their advisors.
You have to know how to read the stitches on a fastball.
There's a story today in the New York Sun by Josh Gerstein: 2,600 pages of Clinton records withheld.
The National Archives withholding from the public about 2,600 pages of records at President Clinton's direction, despite a public assurance by one of his top aides last month that Mr. Clinton has not blocked the release of a single document.
That's Bruce Lindsay.
Quote, Bill Clinton has not blocked the release of a single document.
That's true.
He's blocked the release of 2,600 documents.
This is how you have to read them.
He didn't lie.
Bruce Lindsay did not lie.
Bill Clinton hadn't blocked the release of a document.
He's blocked the release of 2,600.
Who's now?
Oh, Janie and Tulsa.
You're still without power?
No, I got my power back on Monday.
Thank God.
Oh, but you were without it for just a week.
Okay, I misread the line up there.
Yeah, I was without it for eight days.
And let me tell you, it was miserable.
It was miserable on everyone I know.
And I still have family that is without power.
Before this happened, what was your, this is not a trick question, and if you don't want to answer it, you don't have to.
And I'm not trying to set you up.
I'm actually setting myself up here for possible disaster.
What was your attitude about global warming before this happened?
Personally, my opinion of global warming is that it is a complete fraud.
I think it's political.
It's all politically motivated.
And you've been a great educator on that point.
And the attitude of most of the people I know here in Oklahoma is: you know, hug all the trees you want to in California, but just leave us alone.
Well, you know, I'm up here in New York this week, and I got here Sunday, and it was slow, snow and slush and stuff on the ground.
And it was very windy sometime.
It was like a mother-in-law convention.
I mean, it was the winds, it was icy, and it was cold to boot, and the same thing on Monday.
And the apartment building I live in, the heat is an odd thing.
It's got a boiler and its pipes and so forth.
And you can't, you either have to have it on or off.
There's no thermostat, so it's either on or off.
If you leave it on all the time, you roast.
And if the temperature happens, if you hit a little warm spell in January and it hits 60 degrees, you can't turn the air conditioning on until they turn the chiller on, which doesn't happen until May.
So I was getting so hot Sunday night, I had to get up and turn it off.
And by about 4 o'clock in the morning, I was freezing in there.
So I had to get back up and turn it on.
And I got to think, what must have this been like for people in Oklahoma who've been without power for weeks now and have no opportunity to go turn the heat on because there was no power?
Well, I can say that, you know, when Hurricane Katrina happened before, the overwhelming attitude in Oklahoma is that we saw people begging for government help down in Oklahoma or down in New Orleans.
And we said, that will never happen to us.
We are going to do for ourselves.
And I can really say that's what's happened.
You know, we all know enough not to depend on our local government here.
We have a very liberal local government.
But neighbors were helping neighbors.
All the churches were opening up.
I know my family personally, we have an all-electric mobile home.
My husband's office building opened up all their empty office space for the families of the employees.
So that's where we stayed.
And it was a wonderful thing.
It was wonderful not to have to depend on the government, but to be able to help each other.
Right, a bonding experience, as it were.
You know, the same thing can be said of the people out in Southern California in fires.
And to this day, by the way, the drive-by media is not in Washington pointing fingers at FEMA saying, where are you?
They don't have any power in Oklahoma.
Where's FEMA?
Where's FEMA?
See, the whole thing about New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina, it just fit the narrative.
You had a minority-dominated population.
You had poor, very poor neighborhoods.
You had an inept local government that couldn't get everybody evacuated.
You had an opportunity to trash the Bush administration.
I don't think it was so much the people of New Orleans, as some of them were, you know, with their hands out, but that's how they've been raised.
That place as it existed at the time was a microcosm of what the whole country would be if liberals had unchecked power.
I must take a brief timeout.
Look back.
Janie, thanks so much for the call.
Stay with us.
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