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Dec. 19, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 19, 2007, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Late arriving show prep.
I'm getting all these stories.
Well, Rush, you laugh about Brittany Spears' sister being pregnant, but it was a lead story in Boston TV last night.
So what?
We have not yet stooped to the levels of the drive-by's on this program, and I doubt that we will.
I see Snerdley still has the call up there.
Ha ha ha ha no.
Now it's my take on Harris Hilton.
My take on I told Snertley to get me a couple pairs.
Now he's getting obstinate.
You know, now he's okay.
You you humiliate me in front of the whole audience.
I'll give you what you say you want.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, broadcast excellence from High Atop, the EIB building in Midtown Manhattan, El Rush Ball, the all-knowing, all caring, all sensing, all feeling, all compassionate, all concerned, maha rushy behind this.
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All right, uh the Hillary Clinton campaign is now off on its its likability phase.
Uh and Howard Kurtz, I'm gonna get this back to the critter here.
Howard Kurtz has a a story uh today for Clinton, a matter of fair media.
Uh Senators Camp insists that the press is holding her to a tougher standard.
Uh well, of course it does, Howard.
I mean, she's she's telling everybody she's got far more experience than everybody else, so she ought to be held to a different standard, the experience standard.
After weeks of bad news, Hillary Clinton and her strategists hope that winning the endorsement of the Des Moines Register might produce a modest bump in their media coverage, but on Sunday morning, they awoke to the upbeat headlines about their rival, Obama.
Clinton's senior advisors have grown convinced the media deck is stacked against them, that their Canada is drawing far harsher scrutiny than Barack Obama, and at least some journalists agree.
She's just held to a different standard in every s every respect, says Mark Halpern.
And by the way, Halperin also says in this story that if you get to the bottom of it, reporters would much rather have Obama as the nominee.
They're just it's like we suspected long time ago.
They're just worn out with the Clintons.
There's no news there, and I'm f frankly, they're probably tired of sweeping things under the rug.
So um anyway, I don't know uh how many of you people have been to Iowa.
I have.
But this story clearly makes it sound like the Clinton camp is whining and moaning about the media, blah, blah.
And uh Iowans do not like whiners.
They're tough people.
Uh, even a Democrat liberals up there, they are tough people, and whining uh about media or anything else is not becoming.
Now let's listen to the latest iteration, Mrs. Clinton from um what was it, uh experience and then change.
Now we're to likeability.
Oh yeah.
Title of Tune is Stupid Girl, and the name of the group is Garbage.
There's another story about the Clintons in the in the New York Times today.
It's the most it's just the most amazing thing.
Uh now there's this the one line in this thing that really stook out at me.
Now another major question faces the Clinton team in Iowa.
Did it wait too long to try to humanize Hillary?
The presidential cockeye are a little more than two weeks away.
Mrs. Clinton's negative poll ratings remain high, and some of her advisors wanted to accentuate her personal side earlier.
What word in that couple of sentences that I just read just leaps out at you?
Yeah, I know it's hard when you're listening to it, you're not looking at it.
The word to me is try.
Did the Clinton team in Iowa wait too long to try to humanize Hillary.
To try, meaning it requires an effort.
Meaning that it might not work, meaning might not work.
It hasn't worked.
I mean, that's they waited too long.
There's not enough time to humanize her.
They had to start earlier if they were going to pull that off.
Meaning they have to do it.
She can't.
That has always been the rub.
You know, folks, uh, we all in public life, even I, uh, Il Rushball have public image.
And uh people that do not listen to this radio program, and you know them, and you've talked, they think they think things of me that you who listen regularly and daily can't possibly agree with because you know they're not true.
Um so my critics, of which there are some, have uh crafted an image of me that is not accurate in terms of who I really am, but you who listen every day know what the real me is, and people, people that uh that work with me here at the EIB network are constantly asked, is Rush like that off the air too?
Meaning, here's this an act in a radio, right?
I mean, when he gets off there, he's like everybody else is mad, he creams at you, and he's a tyrant, right?
No, no, no.
He's like that uh all the time, is what they say.
But with Mrs. Clinton, look at what her public image is.
There's uh I mean there's nobody that thinks she's optimistic, nobody thinks she's likable.
Now, maybe people who know her intimately, like I've I've been lobbied about Mrs. Clinton way back when I did those hearts of fire shows uh with Markey Post and uh um metal block.
Yeah, yeah, Harry and Linda Bloodworth Thomason were the writers, the producers of creators of the show.
And I can I can remember Linda Blood Thomason, who grew up in Poplar Bluff, just a little bit uh south of where I grew up.
Oh, Hillary's so sweet.
She just she loves umbrella drinks.
Loves Yeah, that's what she said.
She loves umbrella drinks.
Like Pinya Colada's out there while dancing on a beach with Bill with no music in the Virgin Islands.
Uh but it's they're having to work too hard at this.
Let's cut to the chase.
I want to all of this is irrelevant anyway.
Because the dirty little secret is her personality has always been a problem.
We already know her.
They can't fix that in a matter of weeks.
So cut through all of this BS.
The Democrats are having to decide whether or not to reject Bill Clinton.
That's what this is all about.
The dirty little secret is that it is not about Hillary anymore.
It's about Bill.
He's front and center.
He is all over the place.
He is running into grocery stores, he's uh he's going off message, uh, he's giving the security people fits, he's drawing huge crowds, they're going nuts in there, the Democrats are asking for autographs, posing for pictures.
If she were on her own without Bill, she wouldn't, and we've said this countless times, she would not be a serious candidate.
She is pushing Bill out front.
People, oh, look at Clintonway, he can't help himself.
Well, he's upstaging.
Nope.
She's pushing him out there, folks, because she knows that the Democrats are deciding whether to finally cut ties with him or not.
That's that's the way the Clintons view it too.
Now they're not gonna say this.
Uh they will not confirm that this is correct if anybody were to ask them about it, but that's why he's out front all over the place.
This is not, I mean, he's got an uncontrollable ego, but he's not out there off message in terms of upstaging his wife and possibly doing her harm.
He is putting himself out there as a third-term president who's not on the ballot.
That's what this is all about.
The Clintons are viewing this as a referendum on him as well as Hillary, and he wants back in the White House in the worst way.
Uh upstaging her.
Uh it has to be, if that's what's happening, it has to be with her approval, because she knows that alone she is toast, their mutual goal is power, get back to the White House to get it.
She doesn't care how.
She wants the presidency.
But the the the Clintons want the Democrat voters to see this as a vote for Bill.
They do, folks.
Why is he out there all over the place?
And why is he out there saying things like, Well, I'm gonna have uh Hillary's gonna send me, I gotta send George Bush, 41 and me out around the world, repair America's.
I mean, they A bigger lie, no bigger lies been told, and that's saying something to Clinton.
George Bush had to come out and say, I don't haven't talked to him about that, and I wouldn't ever do it.
But the crowds that Clinton's speaking to, the Democrats, the delegates at the convention, made up of their lunatic fringe base, love hearing this kind of thing, whether it's true or not.
She has already thrown aside any concern about this looking like she needs Bill to win.
She's not worried about that anymore.
She's already calculated she doesn't care how this makes her look.
She wants the power.
So does he.
They both believe the way to get it is to run Bill for a third term, but without saying so, especially here in these primaries.
This wasn't so a month ago, but I think this is a this is the major policy change that's happened that nobody's picking up on.
This was not the case a month ago, when she thought she could glide to like a coronation of a nomination.
But they have clearly changed strategies now.
I I don't think Bill's as popular with the American people, but he is popular with the people in the Democrat Party who run for delegate positions, the party leaders, the party elders, uh, and the party operatives.
He's far more popular than she is.
So what we're watching here in Iowa, and we'll see if it continues in a New Hampshire.
Uh he's in South Carolina too.
He's this is an this is a third term of Bill Clinton without him being on the ballot because she can't do it by herself, and so this is a referendum on him.
Uh and I I think uh if if you Democrat voters in Iowa and New Hampshire uh haven't considered this possibility, you should start now because all that you're seeing up there uh is is being made to look like uh like Bill riding to the rescue uh or Bill off message or Bill Viss, maybe sabotaging you.
It's not that.
It's um it's putting Bill out there because they know he's far more popular with Democrat primary voters than Hillary is.
Uh and he wants it so bad that he could taste it as well.
Back after Ha, welcome back.
We'll be getting to your phone calls here in an El GIFO.
Just one more story on this likability business.
This is uh by the infobe Beth Phuy, uh at the Associated Press.
It's an analysis piece, uh, which means that this means that the reporter is admitting it, putting her bias in the piece.
Whereas news stories, the bias is not admitted to.
So when you see analysis by an infobabe reporter any guy, it just means they're being they're putting their opinion in it, uh, and admitting it.
Um and the pull quote is this.
Hillary Clinton says, I know people say we've got to know more about her, know more about her personally.
It's not easy for me to talk about myself.
It's just not easy for Mrs. Clinton to talk about her.
It makes her uncomfortable.
And of course, it's a very safe uh modus operandi because it's very hard to keep track of all those lies.
And so the less you talk, the less you have to remember which lie you told who when.
Clinton is not bothered by this.
She is.
But the the writer here, Beth Fuey, seems stunned that Mrs. Clinton has this problem of likability.
Indeed, in an AP Yahoo News National poll released last month, just forty-one percent of voters said Clinton was likable compared with 54% for Obama and 49% for Edwards.
Uh drive-bys are just stunned by what is very old news.
This has been the case since the 90s.
They just they they seem to be shocked by the fact here, folks, that not everyone in this country just loves and is willing to bow down in curtsy to Hillary Clinton.
It's just like they do not understand the anger and the frustration over illegal immigration.
They are stunned when they go to the outskirts of Iowa and they find people in small towns just fed up about it.
I can't believe it.
So talk about being out of touch.
Drive by the phones.
Uh, this is North Canton, Ohio.
Rick, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
What you do.
Hey, I just wanted to make a comment on the whole Hillary appearance issue.
Yeah.
And I just want to say it seems that the left is always willing to embrace appearance, except for when it works at their their disadvantage.
And I'm reminded of the Nixon Kennedy debate.
People that listen to that on the radio thought Nixon was a clear-cut winner.
But uh, the people that watched uh on TV came out with I think 60, or just a shade over 60% of the people said that Kennedy won that debate.
No question about it.
Exactly right.
Strictly on appearance.
Don Hewitt, who uh recently retired from 60 Minutes, uh made Kennedy up, applied some makeup, didn't give Nixon any.
Nobody thought to use it, it's black and white TV.
And of course, Nixon broke out with the sweat uh on the upper lip there, and it was all over.
Now look at this is my point.
I I'm uh the the appearance in in the visual arts and politics of visual art, because it's on television, matters.
It just does.
Uh now it it it's a little less important the smaller the election, the smaller the state election, not that big a deal, local election, even less big a deal.
Uh nationally, though, this this kind of stuff, when you're talking about presidents, it matters.
I can't remember the names off the top of my head, but if you go back, prior to the advent of television, we had some Tubbs as president.
We had some huge guys, fat guys, Chester Allen Arthur.
Warren Harding, pig by today's standards.
But back then it was a sign of success.
Overweight men, titans.
It was a sign of prominence, sign of power, sign of uh great wealth and success.
Today doesn't say that at all.
It says as an image.
It says something, no discipline, doesn't care, slob.
All the no matter how well dressed you are, no matter how neatly quaffed you are, if you're fat, you're still a pig.
And if you're on television and you're fat, you're either a character actor and nobody knows your name, but you're not prominent.
Well, couple of exceptions.
Well, yeah, look at what happened to Orson Wells when he ballooned up.
He ended up selling wine on Monday Night Football.
Uh who else uh out there?
Burrow Ives made it for a while, but what?
Jed Jack, Jackie Glee, but Jackie, you know, he tried.
Jackie Gleason was roller coastering up and down.
You lost the weight, there was a Jackie Gleason diet.
But Jackie Gleason used to eat over at Pansies.
He had all those sausages and stuff.
I mean, Joey would take the stuff over to where he lived.
Uh Marlon Brando, yes, as soon as he ballooned up, it was guy goodbye, Don Vito Corleone.
Uh, and he got a couple roles after it, but it's just the way it is, folks.
You know, aging on women in public, yeah, like presidents, is probably has the same effect as as men who once were very study, ballooning up.
It's just the way it is.
It's sad, but that's the way our culture is.
That's all I was talking about the other day.
Here's David in Atlanta, your next on the EIB network.
Hello, sir.
Long time, fifth-time megadiddos.
I've got to give you credit once again.
I think your astute analysis is what's behind uh, at least for a large part, Huckabee's recent swipe at uh George W. Bush for not pulling something like the surge sooner.
When you said that you think the Liberals are trying to paint Huckabee as another Bush so they can run against Bush again.
Not that he is exactly, but they're trying to paint him that way.
I think you were dead on.
Well, there's no question that the influence of this program spreads far and wide and it impacts in ways that we will never even know.
So you you could be right.
It could well be that Huckabee or Huckabee's team heard the uh theory, which I I I do not retract, by the way.
I think the theory is they've invested so much on the Democrat side in their base.
That lunatic fringe bunch on the blogs.
They've invested in so much hatred for Bush that they need Bush on the ballot.
And they are not going to get Bush on the ballot unless they can turn one of the Republican candidates into Bush, with of course the aid of the drive-by media.
And so Huckabee uh I think fits the bill.
I mean, he, you know, Bush touts his faith publicly, Huckabee does.
Bush.
Uh illegal immigration got pretty much the same laissez-faire attitude about it that Bush does.
So it could well be that Huckabee took some steps.
You know what I want to hear, Mum.
I want to hear uh chipmunks roasting on an open fire, and uh Jorgi Jorgensen Before the program's over.
Welcome back.
By the way, I need to correct myself.
Warren Harding was not fat.
In fact, he was um uh he was nominated because he looked like a president.
Uh back in those days.
It was Taft and McKenley and Cleveland and Garfield were the uh the fat guys that were uh elected president.
Here is Jesse in Roanoke, Virginia.
Thank you for waiting, and welcome to the EIB network.
Fresh like a collegiate.
Thank you, sir.
Um I just got a question about the uh the ethanol part of this new bill that the Senate's going through.
Stupid energy bill, you mean?
Yeah.
You know, I want to know how what you think the price of a can of corn is gonna cost in ten years.
Corn is already at a record price.
The price for corn is, in fact, this is kind of funny in a in a way because the biofuels and the environmentalist wackos are once again the unintended consequences, are backfiring on them.
Uh corn prices are through the roof, but it's not because of food.
It's because of biofuels.
The U.S. Congress overwhelmingly approved uh yesterday a bill raising fuel efficiency standards for the first time since 1975, uh offering massive support for biofuels in an effort to slash U.S. dependence on foreign oil.
Now the UN says that we had the story yesterday, a story yesterday, wheat prices are at an all-time high.
Then the UN had a story about food shortages.
Worldwide food shortage.
And do you know why?
Biofuels.
So much agricultural land is now being devoted to this fad biofuels, ethanol and all this, forgive me, Iowans, that they're not producing as much corn and wheat, food staples, and the price is skyrocketing, of course, because there's less of it for food.
So even the UN, which has a branch that's pedaling the global warming hoax, uh, which is urging the use of biofuels and all these alternative like I want to see you get on an airplane and go 600 miles an hour with a propeller or windmill on the top of it.
These people in I feel so sorry for them in Oklahoma.
Some of them still without power in the dead of winter in the middle of global warming, with it nowhere in sight.
And this is exactly what the environmentalist wackos want.
They want coal-fired power plants shut down.
This would be the practical effect.
Um the UN, on the other hand, says that biofuels are causing a shortage of food.
Uh this is you know I'll tell you what this list.
Cafe standards, his energy bill, his global warming, all this stuff is reminiscent.
It's taking a little bit longer to occur.
It's reminiscent of the knee-jerk reaction to the Dubai Ports deal.
There was no thinking about the Dubai Ports deal.
That was strictly jingoism.
That was, oh my God, Du Boy, Arab terrorist ports?
No, screaming bloody murder, Democrats, Republicans trying to be the first to race to the microphone, say it isn't gonna happen.
When in fact, it was harmless.
But nobody cared about the details.
Ignorance, folks, ignorance is the most expensive commodity we pay for in this country.
And this whole this whole energy bill, this emphasis on biofuels and alternative energy sources, no focus on nuclear, no focus on more petroleum, no focus on the things that produce energy and a growing economy.
Nothing.
This is irresponsible.
It's absolutely stupid.
And it's made possible by the ignorance of a bunch of people who think that we are in a crisis that we are not in.
And if you want to see the future exactly as the environmentalist wackos and these nerds at the UN have in mind, take a look at Oklahoma during the ice storm.
And if you think I'm exaggerating, wake up.
What do you get if you put coal-fired power plants out of business with nothing to replace them?
If you're not gonna go nuclear, if you're not gonna use oil and petroleum products, you're not gonna use fossil fuels.
What are you gonna do?
Sorry, folks, we're not there yet.
And no act of Congress is going to get us there.
Mother is the necessity.
Little verbal dyslexia, but you get the point.
Uh Justin and Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Nice to have you with us on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Russ.
Thanks for taking a phone call.
Say, I sorry to change up subjects on you, but I just thought it'd be something on a little bit lighter now.
What What do you think about this whole uh the Spears family spreading like wildfire now?
The second Spears sister having a child with a man that's old enough to go to jail for it.
I don't think there is anything extraordinary about the Spears family Spreading like wildfire.
The Spears family's not the only family spreading like wildfire.
There are countless American families that have 16-year-olds that go out and get pregnant.
You just don't know about them because their sisters aren't on television.
Or they're not none of the take a look at the Jerry Springer show.
If you that's a good point.
If you want if you want to be concerned about what's what's this Spears name?
Jamie Lynn, is that her name?
Yeah, Jamie Lynn.
You want to, Jamie, whatever.
You want to be concerned about go watch the Jerry Springer show.
Now that's cause for concern.
Because they're practically these families are propagating in front of our eyes on that show.
Sure.
I I but the the this is what's happening to these people is no different than what happens to a lot of families in this country, except their lives are on TV.
And the Would you would you tend to think that uh a family in this position, though, wouldn't wouldn't you think that there would be a more watchful eye as a parent to be watching over these kids till this doesn't happen though?
Well, I would certainly hope so, but it's long time past for for this to happen.
The parents here are the culprits.
I mean, the parents, the parents are they're if they're infected with this this disease, this addiction to fame themselves.
Look at Britney's mom for crying out, put me on TV too, put me on TV.
You know, celebrity parents can they can go both ways, and some of them lose uh whatever grounding they had as adults when their kids get famous, they want to be part of it, they like the money themselves.
It's very rare to have celebrity parents that's remain that remain grounded, but uh, you know, the who is going to get this family in line.
The parents are out there making as big a mess of their own lives as the kids are.
Plus, the real sick thing about it is the end of the day, I don't care what the Britney Spears camp says or the Jamie, whatever name Spears camp, they love the attention.
It's their job to get it.
That's what's perverse about this.
You know, I I have a minimal amount of fame compared to people on television and movies.
And I don't like the the stuff I've got, but I'm you know, it's it's it is what it is.
But these people that have to go out and get taken pictures by the paparazzi have to go out to these nightclub openings at two o'clock in the morning and make sure they're photographed there.
They have to go to all these things.
Their job is to get noticed.
Their job is to be taken and have pictures taken.
I could not stand it.
To have that as a measure of success because that's phony.
There's no substance to it whatsoever.
It's purely symbolic.
And if you don't have any solid foundation that props you up behind all that, then you get caught up in it.
When that stuff doesn't happen, then you feel worthless, and you have to strike out and start getting attention in other ways.
Ah la the Spears family.
It's really it's really a sad thing.
There ought to be there ought to be education for young kids who are about to get into business is gonna have a lot of fame attached to it.
Uh uh there then there are people that could teach it uh because it's it's necessary, it destroys people's lives.
The quest for it.
Then when they get it, it's not what they think it's gonna be, and then that's something that requires adjusting to, and then when they lose it, that's the worst, because they gotta get it back because they feed off of it.
And the problem with it is the problem of being oriented and and and focused on fame as a measure of success is that you have turned over who you are to the opinions of others.
You have you have in essence said to yourself, uh, I don't care who I am, doesn't matter, I care what they think I am, and I'm gonna have to do whatever they think I am and be whatever they would want me to be in order to be liked and have fame and all this, and you lose your identity and you become a psycho.
And it's happening right before our very eyes.
And of course, the drive-by's the entertainment drive-by-s, they love it.
The bigger the train beck, the bigger the ratings on entertainment tonight.
The bigger the train wreck, Brittany Spears shaving her head in a moment of who knows what was going through her mind.
Look at the pictures that that probably sold for in all the magazines so forth.
It's just a vicious, vicious cycle.
And then the same drive-bys who promote this kind of thing uh by covering it and making it a big deal, then give us these sanctimonious stories later about the tragedy of uh this celebrity or that celebrity.
It's sort of like ESPN in sports.
I think ESPN's destroying sports is as we know it.
I mean, you take a look at Terrell Owens.
Now he's behaving this year.
But in prior years, why do you think Terrell Owens was Terrell Owens?
I remember.
I remember that night game, a Monday night game when ABC still had it, Seattle Seahawks and the Forderners, and he pulled a Sharpie out of his sock after scoring a touchdown, autographed the ball, gave it to a fan in the stands.
Everybody's, oh, isn't that cool?
Why, that's fun.
This is what the league needs.
I said, I'm warning you people, you promote this, and you're gonna get more expressions because they're gonna want to get on a highlight reel.
They're want to notice, they're gonna want to get endorsements, and that begot all these silly end zone things, and then these guys acting macho and thuggish uh on the field in the middle of game trying to get in a highlight reel, and then at the same time we get the sanctimonist stories about why is Terrell Owens behaving this way?
Does he have no loyalty to the team?
Look at yourselves in the sports media and who's promoting this stuff.
And who's making big bucks off of it?
The same thing with these I don't think it's just young celebrities, it's it's celebrities in general.
I maintain to you that 95% of the people who get into the celebrity game and the fame game because they have a desire for it, uh, even if it's equal to the desire to do good work as an actor, actress, whatever it is.
But if nobody sends them down and tells them what's going to happen to him with a fame, they have no clue.
And it weirds them out.
Because they at uh when they'll profess not to like it, they'll do everything they can to hide from the paparazzi, but notice they never quite pull it off.
The paparazzi seem to always find them.
How can that be?
I have found ways to elude them.
It's possible to do.
Now I'm not in as great a pursuit uh by these people, but I have had my moments.
I've had and I shook 'em.
There are ways to do it.
Um dirty little secret is all these people get PR people.
Call the paparazzi, whoever guess what?
Psst.
Brittany Spears is gonna be going to barbershop with it in a couple of minutes.
You think these people just happen to hang out at hairstylist salons all day long waiting to see who might pop in.
Their time is valuable too.
This whole thing's a vicious cycle.
It's a dirty little secret.
And this little kid getting pregnant.
Um, I hope I'm wrong.
I hope I'm wrong, but at some point you will do anything to get in the news.
Keep your name alive and visible, and some people don't have very many limits about what they'll do.
Back in just a sec.
Talent on loan from God.
You have to say God.
It just doesn't have the authority to say talented on a loan from God.
Uh welcome back, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
This y y you have to know, as I do, how to parse the words of Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and their advisors.
You have to know how to read the stitches in a fastball.
There's a story today in a New York Sun by Josh Gerstein.
Twenty-six hundred pages of Clinton records withheld.
The National Archives withholding from the public about 2600 pages of records at President Clinton's direction, despite a public assurance by one of his top aides last month that Mr. Clinton has not blocked the release of a single document.
That's Bruce Lindsay.
Quote, Bill Clinton has not blocked the release of a single document.
That's true.
He's blocked the release of 2600 documents.
This is how you have to read them.
He didn't lie.
Bruce Lindsay did not lie.
Bill Clinton hadn't blocked the release of a document.
He's blocked the release of 2600.
Who's next?
Oh, Janie and Tulsa.
Uh, you're still without power.
Uh no, I got my power back on Monday, thank God.
Oh, but you were without it for just a week.
Okay, I misread the lineup there.
Yeah, I was without it for eight days, and uh let me tell you, it was miserable.
It was miserable on everyone I know, and I still have family that is without power.
Uh before this happened, what was your this is not a trick question, and I've if you don't want to answer it, you don't have to, and I'm I'm not trying to set you up.
I'm actually setting myself up here for possible disaster.
What was your attitude about global warming before this happened?
Personally, my opinion of global warming is that it is a complete fraud.
I think it's um political.
It's all politically motivated.
And um you've been a great educator on that point.
And the attitude of most of the people I know here in Oklahoma is, you know, hug all the trees you want to in California, but just leave us alone.
Well, you know, I I uh I'm up here in New York this week, and I got here Sunday that was slow, uh snow and slush and stuff on the ground.
And it was very windy sometime.
I mean it's like a mother-in-law convention.
I mean, it was the winds was it was it was icy and it was cold to boot, and the same thing on Monday.
And the uh the apartment building I live in, the heat is uh is an odd thing.
It's it's uh it's got a boiler and it's pipes and so forth, and you can't you either have to have it on or off.
There's no thermostat, so it's either on or off.
If you leave it on all the time, you roast.
And if the temperature happens, if it hit a little warm spell in January that it hits 60 degrees, you can't turn the air conditioning on until they turn the chiller on, which doesn't happen till May.
So I was getting so hot Sunday night, I had to get up and turn it off.
And by about four o'clock in the morning, I was freezing in there.
So I had to get back up and turn it on, and I got to think, what must have this been like for people in Oklahoma who've been without power for weeks now and have no opportunity to go turn the heat on because there was no power.
Well, uh, I can say that uh you know, when Hurricane Katrina happened before, uh, the overwhelming attitude in Oklahoma is that we saw people begging for government help down in Oklahoma or down in um New Orleans, and we said that will never happen to us.
We are gonna do for ourselves.
Yeah, and you know And I can really say that's what's happened.
Um, you know, we we all know enough not to depend on our local government here.
We have a very liberal local government.
But neighbors were helping neighbors, uh all the churches were opening up.
I know my family personally, we have an all-electric mobile home.
My husband's office building opened up all their empty office space for the families of the employees.
So that's where we stayed.
And it was it was a wonderful thing.
It was it was wonderful not to have to depend on the government, but to be able to help each other.
Right, a bonding experience, as it were.
You know, the same thing could be said of the people out in Southern California in the fires.
Uh and to this day, uh by the way, the drive-by media is not you know, not in Washington pointing fingers at FEMA saying, Where are you?
They don't have any power in Oklahoma.
Where's FEMA?
Where's FEMA?
See, the whole thing about New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina, it just it fit the narrative.
You had a minority uh dominated population.
You had poor, very poor neighborhoods.
He had an inept local government that couldn't get everybody evacuated.
Uh you had an opportunity to trash the Bush administration.
I don't think it was so much the people of New Orleans as some of them were.
Uh, you know, with their hands out, but that's how they've been raised.
That that that place as it existed at the time was a microcosm of what the whole country'd be if liberals had unchecked power.
I must take a brief time out, but back uh uh Janie, thanks much for the call.
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