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Dec. 14, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 14, 2007, Friday, Hour #2
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All right, I want to I want to talk a little bit more about the steroid thing, the the Mitchell report that came out yesterday.
I have had a day to digest this.
Oh, and by the way, I want to issue an apology to uh I'm not gonna be able to remember all the names.
Albert Puholz of the St. Louis Cardinals, Jason Veritic of the Boston Red Sox, and Johnny Damon, NBC, uh PMSNBC.com published a list yesterday morning, and those names are on it.
Uh in the afternoon when the Mitchell uh report came out, those names and some others were not on the list.
So Pooh's was not in the list.
Uh Jason Veritek was not in the list.
Normal uh Garcia Para, No Mar Garcia Parra was not on the list.
He was at first, uh and uh Johnny Damon, so I want to apologize to these people.
It was uh it was a leaked list that was uh inaccurate at first.
But I've thought about this now, and I think I understand what's going on here.
I think that the purpose of this report maybe yeah, I'll go so far as to say the purpose.
But even if it's not the purpose, the end result here is this is going to end up exonerating everybody, including bonds in the past.
And I actually do think it was a real purpose.
Now I'm gonna have to qualify exonerating because they're not gonna get away scot-free.
Some of these guys won't be elected in the Hall of Fame because the people that are really fit to be tied about this are these drive-by sports people, the columnists and the reporters, yeah.
I mean, you can read it in your local paper, I'm sure you baseball.
It's worse than the 1919 Black Sox scandal.
It's dirty.
The whole game is dirty, not just these play Yeah, maybe.
But the fans are showing up in droves, and some fans are not all that excited about it, uh that that uh are not that angry about it, some are, but the bottom line is this.
How can Bud Sealing, by the way, Bud Sealing?
I just want to tell you people something, especially you libs, Bud Sealing is exactly what you think George W. Bush is.
The commissioner of Major League Baseball.
How else can they conclude here that everybody was cheating in the past?
Even the names, what are there, 70, 75 names in this list?
It's a tip of the iceberg, and basically two or three witnesses.
And as I predicted yesterday, John uh Roger Clemens, it's not true.
I didn't do this.
And Mitchell's not a court of law, so what are they gonna do?
He has no enforcement power in terms of the law, and so all this this testimony, quote unquote, is in a legal sense.
It's uh it's it's it's hearsay.
I mean, how do you asterisk Barry Bonds uh but yet not Clemens?
How do you asterisk Clemens but not the whole Yankee team?
How do you not asterisk the whole Giants team?
This is a team game, even though we focus on individuals in this game.
And when I say exonerate, what I mean is there's no way the league can retro punish past performances and achievements.
What they're gonna do is get serious, quote unquote, about cleaning up the future, but Mitchell is not a court of law.
His evidence is here, say in a legal case, uh, and and the names in the list at the tip of the iceberg.
But here, and I may I made this point yesterday.
Let me ask you this.
How many of those players on that list, if you're not a real, I mean, we've all heard of Barry Bonds, we've all heard of Roger Clemens, we've all heard of Jason Giombi, we've all heard of Miguel Tejada.
But do you know how many names in that list consist of people you never heard of unless you are a Dyden-Wool ardent baseball fan?
And yet, those guys were juicing too.
Those guys are shooting up, whatever you do, steroids, uh human growth hormone, yet the juicing didn't apparently launch them to superstar status.
It might have made them a little bit better, but it didn't launch them to superstar status, so we can conclude that juicing does not elevate everybody equally, doesn't turn you into superhuman if you're not something of that nature to begin with.
Uh juicing does not make everyone better because it has nothing to do with raising the baseline talent of any athlete like hand-eye coordination or speed, how fast you can throw a baseball.
Uh you know, juicing does not automatically jump someone to superstar levels.
Uh and there are lots of outs here for major league baseball if they want to take it.
I mean, you can't.
You literally cannot.
If if you're gonna give if you're gonna asterisk Roger Clemens, are you gonna have to take the batters that he faced, the hitters that he faced, and raise their batting average points, ten or twelve points?
And if you do that, well, of course you can't do that, but if you tried it, how do you know the hitters were not themselves juicing?
They don't know everybody who's been juicing.
They just got it's a it's a very, very tiny percentage.
Uh and I, you know, we you you you you you look at this and all these names, it was ever up until then everybody's focusing on bonds.
Bonds cheated.
Uh it's it's like compare it to cycling or track.
Marion Jones, she's in trouble because she was a multiple times champ.
And she was cheating and juicing.
But when the reports on juicing and track came out, she's it.
If Bonds was it, then you'd have the same circumstance there.
They can strip her of her medals and so forth, and they can say track is clean.
Floyd Landis in bicycling, the uh the uh the Tour de France.
Uh everybody had a call yesterday, they've destroyed cycling.
No, I haven't destroyed cycling.
Floyd Landis is in trouble, but if the whole if if they were disqualifying whole teams at the team at the Tour de France, uh then you would have a uh a different situation.
In baseball's case, you've got so many of these players uh that you simply cannot retro punish.
You just can't do it.
And how do you now single out Barry Bonds other than he's on trial or will soon be on trial in San Francisco for perjury before the grand jury?
Uh but in terms of steroid use and his home run accomplishments, how do you how do you asterisk him and nobody else?
How do you start ask asterisking all these people?
If you start asterisking all these people, that you've you've you can't, once you start that, you can't.
So that's why I think that part of what's going on here is to exonerate the past and wipe the slate clean in a PR sense to try to and then move forward.
We're gonna get we're gonna get really tough.
We're gonna get really tough on it.
Sports the entertainment business, right?
So how about the actress with uh breast implants?
Is she cheating?
How about the hitter, as I said yesterday was contacts?
Is he cheating?
How about men who use Viagra Cialis or whatever?
Performance enhancement?
Are they cheating?
Are fans staying away from stadiums?
No.
Fans have never been all that upset with this, really, when you get down to it, it's just these sports writers, these liberal drive bys.
And I guarantee if somebody's little shrimps and the liberal drive-by sports community can make themselves two feet taller tomorrow, they'd do it.
Sports are an escape from reality for a few hours for people, and they like cartoon figures and characters.
Like bonds.
They like superhuman performance.
Even without HGH and steroids, one of the great attractions, particularly for a kid growing up wanting to play baseball, is that the people who can do it are so unique and so rare.
Their talent is so rare.
You look at all of the population of this country and the percentage of it is qualified to play Major League Baseball at that level.
It's rare and unique.
So whether they're juicing or not, people look up to and respect and in awe and in marvel of the talent that they possessed or possess.
And they and they like superhuman performance.
But as I said, Marion Jones or Floyd Landis, if it's just one major figure in the sport cheating, uh then all hell will break loose because if the cheater is the champ, but lots of juicers on the George Mitchell list are nowhere near the top of performance in the league.
So before this is all said and done, uh baseball will have appeased Congress, which was another thing this was all about.
Congress, you know, hassling them to do something about this.
Uh these names have now been made public, and a lot of people really object to that too.
Uh, because this is not a court of law.
This is this is just I'm telling you, this is a bunch of people trying to sweep a problem under the rug and get rid of it and say there's nothing we can do about the past.
The only thing that's gonna happen in the past is that some of these guys may not make it to the Hall of Fame, who otherwise would, because the sports writers uh will carry uh a grudge.
And then what if Mitchell is wrong?
What if he was lied to by people?
It looks like it's gonna be tough for that because one of the guys they gave evidence on Clemens is nine pages in this report on Clemens, and it was pretty detailed and specific.
Yet Clemens out there denying it, which I predicted yesterday.
Uh but if there are people on this list who have been falsely accused, and that's provable, what do they do now to go back and get their reputations?
So this is a uh a can of worms that has been opened, I think, for the express purpose of essentially exonerating the past because you can't punish it all.
And you can't asterisk it all.
And you cannot say that because somebody did this, their performance was X because some of the people on this list you never heard of, and you didn't hear of them because they're not great.
And yet they were juicy.
Well, what does that tell you?
Back in just a second.
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Just to make it fair.
We have that audio soundbite of Mrs. Clinton that I referred to in the uh in the previous hour.
This is uh from the debate.
It's her answer about hope, because that is one of Obama's uh primary camp.
In fact, see I'm just looking at it, it's reading the transcript here of a soundbite that I'm also gonna play if it mentions hope.
Doesn't that I can see real quick.
Here's what Mrs. Clinton said trying to attack Barack Obama's campaign theme.
Everyone wants change.
Well, everybody on this stage has an idea about how to get change.
Uh some believe you get change by demanding it, some believe you get it by hoping for it.
I believe you get it by working hard for change.
That's not the entire life.
Stop the t will somebody please explain to me what is the change with the Clintons getting back into the White House.
Would somebody please would somebody please explain to me why we're even talking about her as a serious candidate?
She was a crummy.
First lady.
Here's the rest of this.
That's what I will do as president.
I will end the war in Iraq and bring our sons and daughters home.
I will get quality, affordable health care for every single American, and I will not rest until every child has a chance to live up to his or her God given potential.
So I hope you will.
Go caucus for me on January 3rd.
Stand up for me, and I'll stand up for you during this campaign and when I'm in the White House.
It's just nothing but platitudes.
She says she's gonna she wants not rest until every child has a chance to live up to his or her God given potential.
Where's this?
Here it is.
New York Times today.
And the headline says it all, school recess gets gentler and the adults are dismayed.
You know, I'm I'm frankly surprised the New York Times just came up with this.
This has been something that's been percolating throughout our culture for years.
It's from Montville, Connecticut.
Children at the Oakdale Scrual here in Southeastern Connecticut returned this fall to learn that their traditional recess had gone the way of the peanut butter sandwich in a gumby lunchbox.
No longer could they let off their youthful energy, pent up from hours of long division by cavorting outside for twenty-two minutes of unstructured play, or perhaps with a vigorous game of tag or dodgeball.
Such games had been virtually banned by the principal Mark Johnson, along with kickball soccer, and other body banging activities, as he put it, where knees and feelings might get bruised.
Where has the New York Times been?
This is an this is a cultural story that's been around for ten or twelve years, if not longer.
Instead, children are encouraged to jump rope, you play with a hula hoops, or gently fling a frisbee.
Balls are practically controlled substances parceled out under close supervision by playground monitors.
The traditional recess, a right of grade school is endangered not only in the Oakdale Scrual in Montville, Connecticut, from Cheyenne, Wyoming to Wickoff, New Jersey, is it Wykoff?
Wykoff, New Jersey, recess is being rethought and pared down.
Frankly, Mrs. Clinton, what are you going to do about this?
You're not going to rest until every child has a chance to live up to his or her potential when the National Education Association, the treat teachers union, a bunch of libsets who's behind this.
We can't push that till then too far, Myther Limbaugh.
These are gentle young things.
We make them grow up too fast as it is.
They could get terribly hurt.
They could get bruthy go, and then tag if you're not yet, your thuffa theme thufferth.
You know, and this is this is the way these people think.
Now, I I think that at the root of this is modern era feminism, which has emasculated a bunch of heretofore men.
Men in too many places, particularly education, are not men anymore.
They've been emasculated.
The chicken, the feminization of the culture, and it's rife throughout.
It's not just here in recess.
It's through it's even in a classroom in uh in in some of these scrubs.
At any rate, uh Mrs. Clinton will do just the opposite.
She believes in this kind of stuff.
The NEA is a mirror image of Hillary Clinton and vice versa.
So to say that she's gonna run out there and make sure not she doesn't rest till every child has a chance to live up to his or her God given potential.
Uh here is a story before we continue with the sound bites.
I addressed this yesterday.
This this first paragraph here, folks, is going to make you wretch.
It's by Michael Hirsch, Newsweek, an internet exclusive.
There he was again on the world stage.
Oslo this time, celebrating his Nobel Peace Prize with singer Melissa Etheridge and the actress Uma Thurman, the Hollywood Hottie, who called him adorable and said a listening to him talk was like watching a beautiful racehorse run.
Wretch time.
But Al Gore isn't running, which raises the question.
Maybe Gore's gotten a little too adorable, too comfortable in his role as a globe-trotting guru.
What about his own damn country?
Writes Michael Hirsch.
What about his own damn country?
Why isn't Al Gore, Nobel laureate and enviro ronk star, embodiment of the alternative history that never was, winner of the largest popular vote total in U.S. presidential history.
Why is he not seeking the job that many people still think he should have had in 2000?
Yes, we've all heard that Gore's reached a kind of peace within himself and blah blah blah.
But Mr. Hurst Says, isn't the White House the place to battle global warming?
Mr. Hirsch, if I may be so bold as to uh educate and inform you, I'm going to tell you as I did yesterday, precisely and exactly why Al Gore will never run for president, certainly not in 2008.
You can make book, and it is precisely because he would have to debate global warming, and he will not do it.
Because he cannot win the debate.
Global warming is a religion.
It is not subject to debate.
It is a hoax.
Therefore it's trick.
It's not subject to debate.
He will not debate it.
That is the only reason, or the big one, why he will not run.
Get over it, Mr. Hirsch.
A man, a living legend, a national treasure, a prophet and a way of life.
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One other thing about this recess business, there was a story I had on the stack yesterday, a day before, and I didn't have a chance to get to it because we've been so uh mobbed here with political news.
But it was a story about why such a romantic story about why we love the underdog.
The underdog suffers from no chance, but we love the underdog and so forth, uh, in a not universally, in certain instances we do, but the point of this story was to raise the underdog by virtue of being an underdog, by virtue of having no chance to a victim.
And you know, the the the dirty little secret about all these, like we I remember chronicling the story when I first heard of this.
There's some some high school, maybe it was a Pop Warner football team down here in Florida in the late 80s or early 90s.
Might have been a high school team.
I forget which.
Junior high.
But I mean it was they were creaming every team they played, 57, 65 to nothing, whatever it was.
And so the league got together.
You know what, we're gonna you guys are gonna start, the other team's gonna start with 35 points or 25 points, so that they at least have a chance.
This is his affair.
You guys are so good that you're gonna have to give these other spot them 35 or 25 points just so they have a chance, just they care to play the game.
And the coach, so what the hell is this?
We got the best team, it's up to them to learn from it.
You know, all these life lessons as adults, or that you learn as adults are being sheltered uh from kids out there.
Uh so you have this underdog business, and now you've got recess.
It really uh it's nothing new, and that's a that's that's a bit of a a tragedy, trying to shelter people from the rigors and hardships that they're going to face throughout life.
It is irresponsible, and it's no wonder that you end up with a bunch of wusses.
It's no wonder that you end up with a bunch of of uh emasculated people running around unable to fit in with the rigors of life.
At any rate, we'll uh spend more time on this when the situation uh uh permits and makes sense.
I got to go back to the phones.
Open line Friday, people been patiently waiting to Pittsburgh and Craig.
Nice to have you, sir.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Ah, Rush, it's a privilege to talk to you.
What an honor.
Thank you, sir.
I don't want to make a big spectacle of this Obama thing and the drugs, but if a Hillary Staffer leaked the information, isn't it the seriousness of the charges that should be investigated?
Well, see, that now that's you're you're you it's interesting because in a campaign these kind of standards sort of evaporate in in this instance.
I tried explain this yesterday.
You have a black Democrat, a liberal black democrat, who is the first legitimate top-tier presidential candidate.
You have liberal to the core drive-by media types who have their roots as liberals in the civil rights movement.
That's where they came of age as liberals and what they and then you couple their education at journalism school and you get the typical drive-by reporter today.
Then you have Mrs. Clinton and her campaign, which these people have been whoring for since 1992.
I think they're getting tired of being whores.
They're stenographers, their rubber stamps.
Whatever the Clintons have said about people, they accept it as truth and go ask the people of Clinton are talking about why would you sell cocaine?
Senator McCain.
Or Senator or Governor Huckabee.
Why would you instead of how dare you say that?
How dare where's the evidence?
They're doing what they should do because this is the first black legitimate liberal black presidential candidate that we've had here.
Clean and articulate, as Joe Biden said.
And so I think Mrs. Clinton doesn't get away with this.
If this were being said about a Republican candidate in the general election, and they leak something like this, the drive by is blood in the water.
And then they would accept the fact, as you say, that it is the seriousness of the charge, not the nature of the evidence that requires that we investigate, requires that we pursue.
And so if this charge were made about a Republican presidential candidate, the drive-byers would have uh a greater inclination to pursue it.
And if not conclude anything, just keep reminding everybody that the Republican candidate is alleged to have sold drugs, cocaine.
With Obama, they just can't abide it.
They're looking, they've had all these years of you know being stomps for the Clintons, and some of this stuff is getting to be it's it's starting to it's starting to offend them.
And so the the the normal rules are being thrown out.
I have to tell you, folks, I I have a little shadow and Freud here.
I really am enjoying the Clintons going through this struggle.
I don't believe that this is concocted.
I think a portion of it was way back when, because she was inevitable, yet they wanted to be able to demonstrate she could overcome a challenge.
You see her in that debate yesterday.
We're not supposed to talk about appearances, but the facelift has fallen.
It it she she she is showing the strains here.
She is showing the pressure that she is and this is and she's not responding to it well.
She doesn't look like she's enjoying or having any fun with this.
Uh she has chosen campaign people not because of their competence, but because of their loyalty.
And many of them have jumped shipped to Obama anyway.
And I think that it's showing, and I'm getting a thrill out of it, because these people have had a cakewalk.
These people have not gone undergone any of the scrutiny that normal public figures go through in times of she gets away with saying, Well, my husband didn't have sex with that intern.
There's a vast right-wing conspiracy out to destroy us.
It's been the case since whenever.
And they just report that, and this right-wing conspiracy stuff gets born.
Uh I can give you example after example after example.
Now they would disagree and say, What do you mean we haven't been scrutinized?
Never heard of Whitewater, ever heard of this or that and the other thing.
Uh you have been scrutinized not by the drive by media.
You have been scrutinized by the alternative media.
I mean, the New York Times did its due diligence on the Whitewater thing, but and there was some damning information, and people did go to jail in that circumstance.
But for the most part, they get a free ride.
Hillary, every time she's in the cover of the New York Times magazine, it's like she's a queen.
Beautiful picture, puff peace article.
Uh, and it's it's been it's been more of the same from for the vast majority of the time they've been in public life.
Now this is not happening to them.
They're not getting the automatic pass.
Uh Bill Clinton's out there screwing things up like he always has when he is stumping for somebody else.
Dirty little secret is he is a drag on this campaign.
He's not in helping.
He doesn't help very many Democrats that he does endorse.
Gray Davis, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend.
I mean, you can trace this stumble that she's in the midst of here to the driver's license thing, which of course was brought to national attention by me, and then Clinton getting involved afterwards because it was such a blunder.
And the more she's out there speaking and him, look at what's happening to the poll numbers of Obama and others, and look at what's happening to hers.
The more he's on the scene.
This is the dirty little secret.
Pat Shelby Township, Michigan.
I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to Open Line Friday.
Rush, thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
Calling from Michigan, and we're surviving despite our liberal leaders up here.
But uh uh I'm a little conflicted.
Um I'm uh I guess this call goes into the global warming stack of stuff, if I may.
But uh I'm uh developing some wind farms, and I I really do not believe in man-made global warming.
And uh yesterday the energy bill, the uh the Congress stripped out the production tax credit for developing wind farms.
They also stripped out the taxes on oil companies.
This energy bill, you're making the mistake of assuming this is for real.
Everything the Democrats are doing is simply bending over and grabbing the ankles from move on.org.
Oh, no, no, I understand.
And I was you know what?
I uh your uh that smear letter against Reed.
I was so ecstatic when you did it, I loved it.
But I was really pulling for the Democrats to get this thing through, even though I'm on the other side of the uh you know the aisle on the conservative side on the taxes.
So I'm actually conflicted here and very disappointed that uh Reed couldn't pull it pull it off, but uh they're really having a tough time uh getting anything done up there, and and they're our embarrassment.
I think you you're doing a great job.
Of course they're having a tough time getting it done because the stuff they're trying to get done is not anything the American people want, including getting out of Iraq.
If the American people wanted us out of Iraq, the Democrats would not have failed at 45 or 50 resolutions so far.
Well, this wind farm business.
What I know you're in the business.
Yes.
So you hope it succeeds.
What is it supposed to do?
What is a wind farm supposed to uh help alleviate?
A wind farm just generates electricity.
It's another source of energy.
What if there's no wind?
Well, that's a good that's a good question.
You don't get paid.
And a lot of, you know, well, how do you make wind?
I mean, you can see this is we're still beholden to nature here.
No, absolutely, and a dirty secret is a lot of the utilities don't like the wind.
Uh it's very difficult to plan in their um uh in their uh assumption of the election.
It doesn't generate enough to run a power plant, does it?
You know what the argument it's not it's not a consistent, but what the argument is is if the wind is blowing, they can then back off some of their coal or oil uh or natural gas fired.
Oh, I see.
So kind of supplements, but supplemental.
From a standpoint when you have a substantial tax credit, there you know, the the investment is made to develop wind farms.
Without it, they really financially are very difficult to you know make sense.
So, you know, as a as a developer without a tax credit.
It's it's extremely difficult to make it work.
Absolutely uh well then it you know, I know we subsidize a lot of things here, but uh I I'm struck.
Here we are, we're faced this week, we had a million people without power in the great Midwest of this country, in the dead of winter, and they were freezing, and many of them had to leave their homes to avoid in some cases maybe freezing to death, or at least great discomfort.
We lost power through the ice storm.
The environmentalist wackos are suggesting that we get rid of fossil fuels, coal, oil, and the derivatives.
If we do, you may as well in the wintertime figure on an ice storm every night without the ice storm.
This is a world that is governed by, powered by the free flow of oil and fossil fuels at market prices, and nothing's going to change it.
There's not a single thing out there that's gonna change that.
The idea that oil is some sort of poison, and that we must stop using it is patently it's ignorance.
And again, ignorance is the most expensive thing we pay for in this country, the ignorance of way too many people.
We've got glaring illustrations of what the world would be like without fossil fuels, coal and oil.
And yet that's where the environmentalists are trying to take us.
It is absurd.
Back in a second.
Okay, back to the audio sound bites.
Uh we got an Obama ad.
It's a uh minute and twenty seconds long.
He's running an effective ad uh it is it has an Iowa Clinton volunteer describe why she left Hillary for Obama, and the video shows her switching campaign signs in her yard.
And she actually puts up a sign that says hope in the yard.
Here is the audio of the ad.
I've always been involved in politics.
I've been uh co-chair of a central committee.
I've run for office, and um I've always voted, and so politics and the Democratic Party are important to me.
Finally to see a woman run.
I got involved early on, licking stamps, stuffing envelopes, doing the things that uh a volunteer does, making hundreds of phone calls.
I was really surprised to see personal attacks from one Democrat to the other Democrat.
And when my husband and I have sat and watched this on TV, we said, what's this campaign coming to?
It's silly to talk about being in kindergarten and and deciding that you want to be president.
Actually, if my kid said in kindergarten he wanted to be president, I'd call the grandparents.
That would be an exciting thing.
So that's reaching kind of low.
The negative stuff, it just isn't going to work.
I kept seeing this disconnect, and I decided no.
No.
I'd always liked Barack Obama.
It was always difficult to make this decision, but it didn't become difficult anymore.
I'm Susan Klopfer, and I live in Mount Pleasant, Iowa, and I'm caucusing for Barack Obama.
You know, she's got a point about this kindergarten business.
I what I every kid.
That's the great thing about this country is that everybody grows up thinking they can be president.
Here's Mrs. Clinton saying it shows calculation.
It shows he hasn't been honest.
From the most calculating pair that we have had in American politics in a long time.
So I just I delight in seeing this stuff.
Uh, because we haven't seen it before.
And we hope, we all hope it's the result of people wising up.
Because throughout the 90s, was that not the frustrating thing?
That people bought into this this this soap opera as something serious and meaningful, hook, wine, and sinker.
Listen to this.
This is cool.
Hardball Chris Matthews last night via satellite from Iowa.
He talked to Mark Penn, Hillary's polster.
Uh Obama strategist David Oxlerod and Edwards campaign strategist Joe Trippie were also there.
And Matthew said, Mark Penn, these these comments that are coming out of your campaign from different directions.
I I'm not sure how they're coming.
Nobody does, but going after his perhaps youthful drug use, which he admitted in his book, and going after comments he made as a kindergarten student, the age of five, I should say.
I mean, do you think those are appropriate shots at the opponent?
Are they below the belt?
We've made clear that the shoe related to cocaine use is not something that the campaign uh was in any way raising.
He caught hell for that, which you'll hear in just a second.
We requeue this to the top, Mike.
We've made clear that the real the inaudible they're related to cocaine use.
They've just gotten through apologizing for bringing all this up, and then they bring it up again.
We've made clear that the the issue related to cocaine use is not something that the campaign uh was at any way uh raising that I think that's very clear.
I think this kindergarten thing was uh joking after the Senate again.
He just didn't think this kindergarten thing after this what the Senator did just literally excuse me.
This guy's been filibustering on this.
He just said cocaine again.
It's like I think you're not sure.
No, no, I don't know.
I think there's something.
No, Joe Trippy's turn.
No, look, the person who won today was was John Edwards.
He was talking about real stuff that it put that is really really affecting working people here in in Iowa who are frustrated and worried about their jobs while we listen to this garbage that's been going on for a couple of days now and needs to stop.
Yeah.
Um so you you heard they're flustered.
They are still flustered, and they're still trying the same old Clinton tricks, and they're getting called on it now in the next bite, which uh is a little longer than I have time to air at the moment.
He tries to bring up the kindergarten thing again and gets called on that.
And I tell you, it's just Schadenfreude.
I just enjoy especially these people.
I will admit it, folks, I'm a human being.
I try to be above it, and I I try not to be excited by the suffering of others, but with these two, it's hard not to be.
You know what?
The Oprah is starting to get some backlash from some of her fans on her uh website because of her support for Barack Obama.
Uh because they think Oprah is pitting black versus white.
And they thought Oprah was above that.
So she's getting a little heat out there.
Uh people threatening never to watch her show again.
Her numbers are down a little bit this season, down 20%, but I don't think that her um Barack stuff is gonna hurt her.
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