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Dec. 6, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 6, 2007, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 Podcast.
And greetings, uh, my fellow Americans.
And music lovers, thrill seekers, conversationalists all across the fruited plain.
Fastest week in media.
Can you believe it's already Thursday?
And it is the EIB network, Rush Limboy here behind the golden EIB microphone.
Great to be with you folks today, as I know you find it great to be with me.
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Australia has done a 180 on Kyoto.
Once they got to the meeting in Bali and found out what it would do to their economy, this new socialist prime minister over there backed out.
Not gonna do it.
One of the greatest editorials or op eds I have read about the whole purpose of the UN-led global warming movement appears today in the Canadian Financial Post.
It's by Peter Foster.
We'll get to that.
Also, Bill Clinton saying he'll only sit in on cabinet meetings if his wife wants him to.
Obama and the double O, Obama and the Oprah, at 18,000 seat stadium, not big enough for an Oprah event.
They've got to move it somewhere.
All of this is coming up, plus more fallout from the national intelligence estimate today.
I apparently was taken to task on PMS NBC last night.
Uh but before for suggesting that there might have been a political reason, uh motivation behind the key judgment that the Iranians stopped their nuclear program in 2003, and they brought on that noted defense specialist, Ariana Huffington, to yes, to uh it's all coming up.
It's all coming up, but I tell you what, uh lots of other stuff too.
But I want to start with Mitt Romney today.
Mitt Romney's speech.
I fr frankly, uh I thought uh we we did what we saw today, folks, was a Republican candidate for president given inspiring speech.
It was an inspiring speech about American values, including religion.
Mitt Romney did this because he has been relentlessly attacked as something less than a true American.
I watched this.
I had uh seen some some excerpts uh from the uh speech published before he made it.
Uh I thought he was inspiring folks.
I think he set exactly the right tone.
And I am stunned by some of the criticism I am seeing of this speech, particularly uh on some conservative websites.
He didn't include atheists.
He didn't include agnostics.
He didn't say and reach out to Hindus.
I don't understand it.
Uh I I uh of all things to take from this speech that Romney gave today that he didn't reach out to atheists and didn't reach out to agnostics is is beyond me.
Uh I thought that he showed today his ability to confront, to articulate, to persuade, and to lead.
He also demonstrated he is more than willing to take a huge risk.
Everybody, from his advisors on down, saying, Don't do this speech until after you've won a primary someplace, or until you've won the nomination.
Don't do this speech now.
Too much can go wrong with it.
Bob Novak had a column today saying, I don't know what's going to happen here.
There's nothing.
What can he say?
Well, he said a lot of things.
Uh you know, the the uh uh it's amazing how uh drive by media going gaga over empty suits like Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Uh, neither of those candidates can hold a candle to any of ours.
Romney Rudy, uh Fred Thompson Huckabee, none of them can.
They're empty suits compared to our cinema.
Our side to sit here and start talking, but he didn't address atheists.
Let's start with the audio sound bites, and let's let's go to the precedent for this.
This is September 12th, 1960 in Houston at the Rice Hotel, presidential candidate J. F. K. Addressing the Greater Houston Ministerial Association about being a Catholic.
We put put together here just a little montage.
But because I am a Catholic and no Catholic has ever been elected president, the real issues in this campaign have been obscured.
I am the Democratic Party's candidate for president, who happens also To be a Catholic.
I do not speak for my church on public matters.
And the church does not speak for me.
Now let's go to the drive-by's and their uh their uh analysis prior to the speech being given, a montage today uh from CNN and ABC and PMS NBC.
Mitt Romney speaks out on religion, but don't expect him to explain his Mormon beliefs.
Romney isn't expected to focus on specific teachings.
If people are looking for him to explain the specific doctrines of his faith, the Mormon religion, they will be disappointed.
Do not expect him to talk about how he prays.
He does not intend to sort of uncloak the mysteries of Mormonism.
You can tell what this is all of these people are hoping uh like hell that they can destroy him because of his Mormonism and scare people and set it up in advance that he's not going to be honest, that he's not going to be forthcoming, and that he's got something to hide.
Uh it didn't come off that way at all.
We've got some soundbite excerpts, and let's just get started.
Here is the first.
Let me assure you that no authorities of my church, or of any other church for that matter, will ever exert influence on presidential decisions.
Their authority is theirs within the province of church affairs, and it ends where the affairs of the nation begin.
When I place my hand on the Bible and take the oath of office, that oath becomes my highest promise to God.
If I'm fortunate to become your president, I will serve no one religion, no one group, no one cause, and no one interest.
A president must serve only the common cause of the people of the United States.
That was a big we.
We cut the applause in the interest of time here, but there was a lot of it, and there were many applause lines, and a couple of them went on for an extended period of time.
Here's another excerpt.
I believe in my Mormon faith, and I endeavor to live by it.
My faith is the faith of my fathers.
I will be true to them and to my beliefs.
Some believe that such a confession of my faith will sink my candidacy.
If they're right, so be it.
But I think they underestimate the American people.
There is one fundamental question about which I'm often asked.
What do I believe about Jesus Christ?
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind.
Well, you can see he is not reaching out to the atheists here, is he?
Not reaching out to the agnostics, not reaching out to the Hindus.
Of all I'm still I'm I'm still stunned that I read that kind of criticism on um on some conservative uh websites today.
Here's another excerpt.
It's important to recognize that while differences in theology exist between the churches in America, we share a common creed of moral convictions.
And where the affairs of our nation are concerned, it's usually a sound rule to focus on the latter, on the great moral principles that urge us all on a common course.
In recent years, the notion of the separation of church and state has been taken by some well beyond its original meaning.
They seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgement of God.
Religion is seen as merely a private affair with no place in public life.
It's as if they're intent on establishing a new religion in America.
The religion of secularism.
They are wrong.
The founders proscribe the establishment of a state religion, but they did not countenance the elimination of religion from the public square.
We are a nation under God.
And in God we do indeed trust.
I tell you, this stuff was, to me, it was inspiring listening to this.
This is you're you're listening here to a Republican candidate for president give an inspiring speech about American values in which he's including religion because he's been relentlessly attacked.
This is uh this frankly, this is the kind of thing missing from the campaign.
What are we as a country?
Where are we going?
What kind of people are we?
What binds us together?
It isn't health care, it's not social security, it's not all those little policy wonk things.
It's who we are as a people and our acknowledgment.
Our founder's acknowledgement that we are all created by God, and it's that creation from which we have our liberty and our freedom and the uh pursuit of happiness.
It doesn't come from any other human being.
Those values are not imposed upon us.
They are not it can only be taken away by men, but they are granted to us by virtue of our creation.
This is the this is totally uh uh uh perfect place for this kind of value speech to be made in a presidential campaign.
One more soundbite.
You can be certain of this.
Any believer in religious freedom, any person who has knelt in prayer to the Almighty, has a friend, an ally in me, and so it is for hundreds of millions of our countrymen.
We do not insist on a single strain of religion.
Rather, we welcome our nation's symphony of faith.
Recall the early days of the first Continental Congress in Philadelphia, during the fall of 1774, with Boston occupied by British troops, there were rumors of imminent hostilities and fears of an impending war.
In this time of peril, someone suggested that they pray.
But there were objections.
They were too divided in religious sentiments.
What with Episcopalians and Quakers, Anabaptists, and Congregationalists, Presbyterians, and Catholics.
Then Sam Adams rose and said he would hear a prayer from anyone of piety and good character, as long as they were a patriot.
And so together they prayed.
And together they fought.
And together, by the grace of God, they founded this great nation.
And the applause there went on and on and on.
Uh Romney also made it a point to say, in regards to prayer, that he will need the prayers of all Americans as President of the United States.
There was nothing exclusionary.
Uh there was uh there was nothing threatening.
It was just, it was j I'm telling you, uh as far as I'm concerned, uh I think he was inspiring.
I think he set exactly the right tone in these speech.
But back to the people criticizing him and what he said, they really ought to look at themselves in the mirror because what they really seem to be saying, when they say to reach out to the agnostics or the atheists of the Hindus, what they really think seem to be saying is that if you don't share my religion, not my beliefs, but my religion, then you're not qualified to be president.
What they're saying is you can never say enough, you can never say the right thing because you're not of my religion, and therefore you're not qualified to be president.
You leave look, atheism is a religion, whether they want to believe it or it is or not.
Agnosticism is too.
If you want to if if you if you want to say that he didn't reach out to them or to the Hindus, and he's not qualified because he didn't acknowledge them, what what kind of analysis is that?
I mean, this is this this is poison, this kind of analysis.
Coming from conservatives on reputable websites, and uh when I saw it, I was I was distressed by it.
I expect it from liberals.
I expect that kind of reaction.
He didn't address this the atheists and the agnostics.
Uh he didn't really explain his religion.
He really didn't explain why he should be nominated and so forth.
All of this that people are saying reveals uh uh partisan thinking, the thinking of those who support another candidate.
Not seriously thinking about the nature of the process here and what Romney was trying to do with the speech.
They're looking at this uh strictly within the confines of a political speech, and I think it went beyond those bounds.
Uh and the critics uh I guess it's quite natural they put their own agenda uh into this speech.
He didn't talk about taxes, they're saying he didn't talk about electability, um uh that this wasn't a speech about taxes, this wasn't a speech about electability, wasn't a speech about policy, it was a speech about American values.
What binds us together as a people and as a nation, and what will continue to bind us together in the future as a as a nation.
I have to tell you, I I don't endorse candidates in primaries, and this is not an endorsement.
I've said this repeatedly.
Uh, but Romney, throughout all of this, you try running around having your religion attacked and threatened and lied about every day, folks, and not get bitter.
And Mitt Romney has not been bitter.
He has not gotten angry.
Uh he easily could have.
He's kept a positive outlook and approach despite being demeaned and doubted in ways that no other candidate has had to deal with.
More on that, by the way, when we come back from this time out.
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Uh, just a couple final thoughts here on the uh on the Romney speech and the uh atmosphere surrounding it.
Uh one of the as I mentioned, I don't endorse uh candidates in primaries.
But I I I really you know Romney uh certainly should have uh our attention in a good way.
Whether he's the nominee or not, he hasn't been bitter, he hasn't reacted in an angry way, and I'll tell you, he has every reason to have done so.
Uh he's been demeaned, he has been doubted in ways that no other candidate has had to deal with.
And those who continue, even after this speech to try to pick him apart with attacks on his character, which are really just disguised as supposedly thoughtful in laws, uh should be ashamed of themselves.
But I'll tell you, I don't I don't think one candidate should be singled out this way, frankly.
And this is another thing about this that is very, very irritating to me.
If religion is important in this election, and I guess it is, because the drive-by the Democrats have made it important, and they make it they make religion important at every election, because if I'll tell you, if you you evangelicals don't have short memories here.
You were just as hated by the drive-by's as Mitt Romney is, you're just as despised by the Democrat Party as Mitt Romney is, and you know it.
You have been the focus of full frontal assaults on your religion for as many years as I can remember being in public life like this.
All the way back to the eighties during the Reagan years.
You know how you were portrayed, your stupid, your hazyed hicks.
You have CNN with questions at a debate with some guy in a basement like the unibomber holding up the Bible and asking, do you believe every word in this book like you idiot, you can't put?
You know how you've been insulted.
You got gun racks in the back of your pickup truck, you get to church on Saturday night and have a barbecue in the parking lot in order to be first at a pew you want on Sunday.
You go to NASCAR races, you're missing a couple of front teeth, you chew tobacco, and you are stupid.
That's what they think of evangelicals and and and the uh the the so-called Christian right.
And they're dumping on Mitt Romney the same way, and you have to understand why.
They fear the morality of religion.
They fear the moral guideposts.
They fear that people of faith, whatever the faith is, believe in things larger than themselves.
Liberals, some Democrats think the end all is with them and with humanity, and that there is nothing larger, other than right now the environment.
And anybody who knows there's something larger than themselves in this life, anybody who knows that there are questions, human beings are capable of asking, but we will never be capable of answering while on this earth scares liberals to death.
And they can't control people like that.
And they fear what they consider to be the judgmentalism of people like that, and they fear the standards, both moral and ethical, that people of faith, and I don't care what faith we're talking about, conduct their lives with as best they can.
So it's not just Romney that they are targeting, it's people of faith who are public about it everywhere, and they're doing their best to discredit anybody with with uh with faith of any kind.
Do you note that the Democrats are never ever asked about this?
If religion is important in this election in that we want to know how someone's faith may impact their governing, then I think all the candidates need to give a speech of this kind.
All the candidates need to be asked questions like this.
All the candidates need to spell out where they are coming from.
Rudy, McCain, Thompson, Huckabee, not just the Republicans either.
Democrats as well.
Democrats mix the pulpit with politics all the time.
They go into church and raise money for campaigns in violation of laws, and nobody calls them on it because of where those churches are.
They mix it all the time, and nobody ever calls them on it, and nobody ever tells them, aren't you little big being a little hypocritical here?
You're out there constantly ripping evangelical Christians in the Christian right, and there you are in a church, Making speeches, and in Mrs. Clinton's case, using a southern black dialect to talk to the flock that's inside the church.
Where do the Democrats draw the lines on religion and governing?
What do they believe?
How do their religions influence their views?
You know, Harry Reed's a Mormon.
Wonder how Harry Reed feels about his brother Mormon being attacked like this and having to defend himself.
And how come Harry Reed doesn't have to defend his Mormonism in context of how he governs?
Well, Rush, he's not running for president.
I don't care.
He's in public life.
He's got a pretty powerful job.
He's a Senate majority leader.
How come he doesn't have to explain his belief in Mormon?
How come Orin Hatch doesn't have to?
Understand what this is, folks.
This is an effort to destroy the character and integrity of a good man.
A decent man on the basis of religion.
It's not the America I grew up in.
While having a great time in the process.
Nice to have you with us here on the EIB Network, the Rush Limbaugh program, most listened to radio talk show in America, over 600 fabulous and great radio stations.
By the way, uh one thing, one more thing about Romney.
I don't want you to forget this.
This was articulate, it was clear, and it was it was it was uh somewhat courageous.
Everybody telling him not to do this.
He showed leadership doing this today.
He uh he exemplified the uh characteristics of uh somebody who is not afraid to lead.
I hope you get a chance at some point to read the whole speech or to um at least uh read it, maybe watch it.
Uh it'll be, I'm sure replay it on a number of uh cable outlets.
Uh moving on, ladies and gentlemen, the NIE fallout continues John Bolton today in a great op-ed in the Washington Post.
Uh he basically uh makes the observation here this NIE that was released on Monday, the key judgment, is essentially rolling out a diplomatics.
Oh, oh, wait, wait, before before that.
Oh, there's something even more important there.
Remember, yesterday we had the uh report that the three primary authors of the NIE, a key judgment, were State Department officials, one of them disgruntled with apparently some kind of grudge uh specific to our Iran policy, and the I think this is a Wall Street Journal and the New York Sun, both had editorials on this.
Today in the weekly standard, actually yesterday afternoon, right after the program ended, uh, just in the middle of the afternoon yesterday, as many recognized, this is from Michael Goldfarb, as many recognize the latest NIE on Iran's nuclear weapons program directly contradicts what the U.S. intelligence community was saying just two years previously.
And it appears that the about face was very recent.
Well, how reasonable consider this.
On July 11th of this year, roughly four or so months prior to the most recent NIE publication, Deputy Director of Analysis Thomas Finger, one of the three authors of the NIE, gave the following testimony before the House Armed Services Committee.
He said, Iran and North Korea are the states of most concern to us.
The United States' concerns about Iran are shared by many nations, including many of Iran's neighbors.
Said Dr. Finger, Iran is continuing to pursue uranium enrichment and has shown more interest in protracting negotiations and working to delay and diminish the impact of UNSC sanctions than in reaching an acceptable diplomatic solution.
We assess that Tehran is determined to develop nuclear weapons despite its international obligations and international pressure.
This is a grave concern to the other countries in that region whose security would be threatened should Iran acquire nuclear weapons.
Folks, this is back in July.
Back in July, one of the lead authors of the NIE on Monday, which said they've suspended their nuclear program in what?
2003, told the House Armed Services Committee that they're still procuring nuclear weapons.
The paragraph appeared under the subheading Iran Assessed as Determined to Develop Nuclear Weapons.
And the entirety of Finger's 22 page testimony was labeled information as of July 11, 2007.
No part of it is consistent.
No part of it is consistent with the latest NIE, in which we're told that Iran suspended its covert nuclear weapons program in 2003 primarily in response to international pressure, and they don't know whether Iran currently intends to develop nuclear weapons.
Now the inconsistencies here are more troubling when you realize that according to the Wall Street Journal, Thomas Finger is one of the three officials who are responsible for crafting the latest NIE.
The journal cites an intelligence source as describing Finger and his two colleagues as hyperpartisan anti-Bush officials.
That's in the New York Sun yesterday.
So if it's true that Dr. Finger played a leading role in crafting the latest NIE, then we have some serious questions here.
For Dr. Finger, why did your opinion change so drastically in just four months' time?
Is the new intelligence or analysis really that good?
Is it good enough to overturn your previous assessments from July?
Or has it never really been good enough to make a definitive assessment at all?
Did your political or ideological leanings or your policy preferences or those of your colleagues influence your opinion in any way?
You know the drive-by's have been assessing this unquestioningly without any doubt whatsoever.
Because when the intelligence fits their worldview, boy, it's right on the money.
When the intelligence doesn't fit their worldview, then it's flawed, it's doctored, it's been cooked.
Uh, or what have you.
This is serious, serious stuff, as I attempted to uh uh make clear yesterday.
Now back to John Bolton.
The flaws in the Iran report.
Second, the NIE is internally contradictory and insufficiently supported.
It implies that Iran is susceptible to diplomatic persuasion and pressure, yet the only event in 2003 that might have affected Iran was our invasion of Iraq and overflow of Saddam Hussein.
Their overthrow.
There wasn't any diplomatic pressure unless you consider shock and awe, or being labeled as one of the three members of the axis of evil.
Uh as under Secretary of State for Arms Control in 2003, I John Bolton know that we were nowhere near exerting any significant diplomatic pressure on Iran.
Nowhere does the NIE explain its logic on this critical point.
Moreover, the risks and returns of pursuing a diplomatic strategy are policy calculations, not intelligence judgments.
The very public rollout in the NIE of a diplomatic strategy exposes the biases at work behind the Potemkin village of intelligence.
He is right on the money.
We had this great caller Jennifer yesterday from California.
And she was uh she was very clear.
Look, they've gone way beyond the scope of what an intelligence report is.
They're philosophizing and they're advocating, and they're suggesting certain things like diplomacy.
And don't forget we had this poll just discovered his poll, his dogby poll yesterday we from October 30th.
52% of the American people support an invasion of Iran.
Don't think these clowns didn't know that.
And don't think they didn't see it.
There's so much contradictory here, and there's so much predictable based on uh based on what we know.
Uh that it is you have to common sense, responsibility would require an open mind to be skeptical of this whole NIE.
Uh the Los Angeles Times today has a story essentially says that the world is puzzled by uh the NIE reports, the substance, the timing, and so forth.
Uh should we believe this report?
Many observers were still struggling to understand what the intelligent assessment portends, particularly in Moscow and Beijing.
Analysts were incredulous.
The intelligence agencies would take a stance undercutting the president and theorize that the report might herald a shift in Bush administration's strategy.
We wonder not only in China but the rest of the world, should we believe this report?
Why now?
What's behind it?
Is this political maneuvering or some sort of power struggle inside the White House?
said Chu Xu Long, professor, director of the Institute's strategic studies at Beijing's Gwinghua University.
And there are countless other stories here.
In fact, uh The New York Times has a couple today that are just unbelievable.
One, a story, reported by David Sanger and Stephen Lee Myers, that essentially says details in military notes led to shift on Iran, U.S. says.
So what's happening here?
Somebody, the New York Times are being leaked to.
There's a little controversy over this now.
So the people behind this, the NIE are now leaking to favored reporters of the New York Times to sort of explain this away.
But in the process of doing so, the Times reports that some agencies of the 16 in the NIE report are not convinced that Iran stopped the nuclear program.
They have only moderate confidence.
I asked the intelligence expert in the last hour of the program yesterday who called, is it possible when this thing comes out in full, when somebody sees it in full, that we're going to find out that not all sixteen agencies are on board with yes, it's entirely possible.
It wasn't Jennifer, it was the previous guy.
I think it was calling from Texas, to whom I uh I asked that question.
And then there uh is a s as a uh the op-ed in the in the New York Times today by Valerie Lindsay and Gary Milhollins.
Uh gotta wonder what got into the New York Times today.
Two stories, this one and op-ed.
Uh in Iran we trust.
They basically say that if Iran has stopped its nuke program, what's with three thousand gas centrifuges or heavy water reactors that use plutonium?
And by the way, yesterday, folks, uh the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadini Zad said that Islamic Republic, the Iranians, will seek at least 50,000 uranium-enriching centrifuges in order to provide fuel for its nuclear power plants in the future.
He said we need at least 50,000 centrifuges in order to realize our aim of producing our own nuclear fuel.
And he made this speech yesterday in public after the NIE has come out on Monday, and there's you know hell freezing over in this country about it.
Uh so these people, if Iran, the the two authors in the New York Times, if they've stopped their nuke program, what's with three thousand gas centrifuges or heavy water reactors?
And the uh they note also that the uh NIE calls for more international pressure to contain Iran, but this report kills those chances.
This is the listen to this.
This situation is made all the more absurd by the report's suggestion that international pressure offers the only hope of containing Iran.
The report has now made much and such pressure nearly impossible to obtain.
It's uh hardly surprising that China, which last week seemed ready to approve the next round of economic sanctions against Tehran, has now had a change of heart.
Its ambassador to the U.N. said yesterday that we all start from the presumption that now things have changed.
No sanctions, no uh diplomatic tightening, nothing.
It's been shut down by virtue of this report.
Quick timeout.
We'll be back and continue after this.
All right, let's uh let's let's uh uh dip our toe in the hot box here, folks, and see what's lurking out there.
On the telephones, Mr. Snerdley reports a very tough first half hour screening phone calls.
Give me an example.
One guy actually called and wanted to get on the air because he heard me say that evangelicals are a bunch of missing front teeth, hey, seed hicks with gun racks in the back of the pickup truck.
Of course I did say that, but I was repeating and reminding evangelicals and the Christian right, that's what the libs and the drive-by media and the Democrats say of you and think about you.
This guy didn't hear me say that.
He thought he just uh it's it's you know, those kinds of things irritate Mr. Snerdley to no end.
I can see he was steaming in there, and I knew exactly what it was about.
I knew exactly what he was getting, because when we bring the subject up of religion, uh you get you you get what you get.
And we're not gonna put 99.9% of it on.
So I'm uh I'm now eager to go to the phones and find out just what passed Snerdley's filter here.
That's what that's why there's gonna be the hot box.
Uh Chuck in Evansville, Indiana, you're first.
Welcome to the program.
How are you doing, Russ?
Good.
Uh Are you there?
I'm here.
Okay.
I just uh wanted to take issue of Well, actually, I'm not gonna agree with you.
It's the conservatives uh like the website that you mentioned that are that are coming down on Romney that are gonna try to destroy him because of the city.
Well, you know, you you you you are right about that.
Um uh but that's in the primarily in the context of after this speech.
Uh I don't think I don't think the conservatives forced the speech.
I think that what's forcing well, some Republicans, I guess you'd have to say that it's a Republican primary and so forth, but make no mistake, though, uh, Chuck.
Don't don't discount this reality that the uh the liberals want to destroy everybody of faith.
Hey, wait a minute, Rush, though, uh, I'm a liberal and I do not hate religion.
I don't fear religion.
Well, then you're not a you're not a f you're not you're not a full-fledged lib, then.
Absolutely.
Oh, you're not.
You can't.
Oh, I'm as l I'm as liberal as you go as him.
You can't be.
I promise you.
I guarantee you I know I know you think you are.
No, I know I am.
That's my daughter.
She she listens to you all the time.
And we talk to you about it, but I guarantee you I'm liberal.
It's a liberals don't fear religion.
What we fear is the control of government by any one religion.
Then you're f How come your religious values, liberal religious values do not give you that fear, then it's not a religion.
I'll tell you what, right?
Wait a minute.
Now suppose we got liberal Catholics, we have liberal Mormons.
Oh Harry Reed's a Mormon.
We got we've got Jewish people in government.
How come liberal people and their religion doesn't fear you, scare you?
How come you're not worried about their trying to impose their religious views on people?
It's it's the same reason that that you say that the liberals don't have to answer questions about religion.
We have our own religious convictions and we live by them.
We believe what Jesus taught.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait.
Liberals have their own religion?
Religious convictions, whether you're Christian, I mean whether you're Catholic or liberals.
Wow, look at what we're learning.
Liberal, you are so liberalism is a is a religion, as I have always thought is its own religion.
No, you're twisting my words directly.
No, I'm not.
I'm not twisting.
That's not what I said.
Yes, it is.
I'm reading it right here on a transcript.
Right, but but Catholic liberals have no fear of uh of uh Buddhist or Hindus or Muslims or or other Christians.
Neither do I do I don't know why are but wait a minute.
That's not what you said.
You're afraid that conservative religious people are going to impose their religion when they govern.
And that means you're afraid of religion.
You're afraid of morality.
You're afraid of the guideposts and the guardrails that keep us centered.
That's what religion that's the primary thing that religion does.
One of the many provide us the roots of our morality and ethics and so forth, in addition to faith and a belief of a in a creator and things larger than ourselves.
You can if you're you're being so inconsistent.
If you're gonna sit there and say you don't fear the religious beliefs of any Democrat, but you do fear the religious beliefs of Republicans.
That's big in it.
I think Mitt Romney did a great job on his speech.
I'm from what I haven't heard it except on your program.
I think he did a terrific job.
I think that but I think who he's speaking to are conservative religion, uh conservative Christians who have little tolerance for people who don't believe just exactly the way they believe.
You know, you know what?
I'm glad I'm glad you said that because I can understand how a lot of people would think that.
Uh uh thank you for giving the opportunity to clarify and amplify remarks in my remarks even more.
I think Mitt Romney was speaking to America today.
And that's what I liked about the speech.
He wasn't speaking just to evangelical Christians or the Christian right.
He was speaking to Americans about the common values of our founding and how those values continue to bind us together, and how they are important to maintain.
It was uh from that standpoint, it was it was articulate.
It was filled with leadership, and it was aimed at the country.
Uh it wasn't aimed at voters in the Northeast, for example, which is why they won't like it.
It wasn't aimed at voters in the South.
It wasn't aimed at the health care crowd.
It wasn't aimed at the environmentalist wacko crowd.
It was aimed at the people of this country.
And I think he hit a bullseye.
Well, look at here, folks.
Look at Democrats backing off on Iraq demands again.
Each day lately, Democrats inch closer to giving President Bush more money for the war in Iraq without any serious mandates for withdrawing U.S. troops.
That's in the political today.
The uh AP uh has it a different way.
They're all worried how can they give the money to the president for the war and the troops without making it look like they support either.
To their kook fringe, lunatic religious base.
We just learned that liberalism is a religion.
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