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Dec. 5, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 5, 2007, Wednesday, Hour #2
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One more thing about this, and I'm going to move on to uh other things.
We uh we supposedly now, because of this NIE report that came out on Monday, the key judgment.
We supposedly find out here in 2007 that the Iranians halted the development of a nuclear weapons program in 2003.
We find out four years after the fact, in 2005, there was another intelligence report, not an NIE report, which states just the opposite of this.
Two years ago, uh we knew what we thought we know now.
Now here's the question.
Do we find out, say in 2009, that they actually developed a bomb when another NIE report is issued in 2011?
We are four years behind times here with this report, is my point.
Four years.
And isn't it interesting how the Democrats all accept this as infallible?
When the intelligence says what they want it to say, it's believable.
When it doesn't say what they want it to say, it's suspect and it's been cooked.
Remember Bush and Cheney cooked the intelligence to go into Iraq?
And now this couldn't possibly have been cooked because no, this is exactly what the Liberal Democrats want.
So when are we going to learn that they have reconstituted a how many years after the fact are we going to learn it?
We need a report.
Maybe a test boom that alerts us.
They're doing all this stuff way underground, and there's, you know, there's a way to assuage fears on this.
South Africa ended its nuclear program, and they did it publicly.
They even offered advice to Saddam Hussein on how to do it to the satisfaction of the world.
Moamar Qaddafi did the same thing.
There was no doubt.
The IAEA, good old Mohammed Al Baradai, is still being denied access and not given complete answers to their questions.
This is in a New York Times piece today.
So we are to accept the word of three State Department people, one of them with a grudge on Iran, and not being listened to by the Bush administration.
North Korea is supposedly doing it now too, dismantling their nuclear program, and that's being done under some watchdog eyes.
But the Iranians are not being forced to do this.
We're just supposed to accept the report from these three State Department peoples, one of them obviously with a grudge.
And then Mahmood could go out and claim victory.
And we're supposed to go, oh, Kumba, yeah, this is so wonderful.
The world is safe again, Mithra Limbaugh, the faith world hath come through despite President Bush's warmongering tenth of thief.
How do we know?
We're going to accept what's in this report as as uh varied and inaccurate as intelligence has been in this country in the last ten or twelve years.
There's a way to do this, and Mahmood will not answer any questions, and Mahmood will not let anybody in there to see.
In fact, Mahmood is out saying that they're doing it.
Now the report comes out and says they're not doing it, says, see, I'm not doing it.
Now I'm not trying to scare anybody about this.
This is not, this is not the point.
I'm not fear-mongering or anything of the uh anything of this sort.
And I'm gonna tell you this.
If Capital I, Capital F, if we find out that this has all been trumped up by these three State Department people with grudges, one of them with a grudge, I hope it is made public.
I s I I it well, it'll have to be if we find out this is this is bogus.
I'm reminded of the uh the uh very uh brave and courageous State Department officials who refused postings to a new embassy in Baghdad.
Well, we're not going over there.
Well, what about our kids?
Well, it's a war zone.
We're not going over there.
Remember, this guy was Trump.
Well, I'm making a big deal.
Where's this guy today?
Somebody got this guy off the front pages.
One of the reasons why is they came up with some volunteers to fill the posts.
Uh, but the uh the original people who were assigned, many of them, I think it was 16, refused to go.
Well, it's a war zone.
We're not gonna Well Wait a minute.
State Department, you're all about diplomacy.
You're all about solving these kinds of crises with words and doctors and nurses and clean water and foreign aid.
Go over there and show us how it's done.
Now all of a sudden, we have defused the Iranian nuclear program with a report.
This doesn't pass the smell test.
There's nothing about this that passes the smell test.
Ladies and gentlemen, and I I uh I'm just looking, I what I always do is follow my instincts and my intelligence guided by experience.
Not what I hope is the case, not what I wish happens, but um, you know, what something doesn't just doesn't sound right, doesn't smell right here.
Uh and it's um troubling to me, uh, because it's a very, very uh serious consequence we're dealing with if this thing turns out to be wrong.
Presidential politics, let's go to the audio sound bites.
Last night on Charlie Rose's show on PBS, former Senator Fred Thompson is the guest.
Charlie Rose says, You you constantly say in this campaign that you're a conservative.
What does that mean today?
It means things that are consistent with God's design for man, it's consistent with human nature, it's consistent with the lessons of history and the lessons of the ages.
They found form in the Constitution, I think, and uh what our founding fathers believe.
They understand that man uh can do great and wonderful things, but man is prone to err and sometimes do terrible things, that too much power and too few hands uh is a dangerous thing, that power is a corrupting thing.
In all of that, you didn't mention abortion, gay rights, all things that have been part of recent presidential elections.
Those well, you're talking about different things there.
Those are issues that are before us, which derive from principles.
Now, this is just fabulous to me.
This is just great.
Here, Charlie Rose asks Fred Thompson, well, what is a conservative today, anyway?
And so Fred gives his definition of a conservative, and Charlie says, Well, wait a minute, I didn't hear anything about abortion or gay rights.
All the things that have been part of recent presidential elections.
Here's where Fred answered that, because Charlie Rose came back and said, Principles, what do you mean principles?
Principles are what guides you and coming to positions with regard to issues.
You know, the Declaration of Independence said that our basic rights come from God, not from man.
The founders talked about, you know, life and liberty and uh the importance of that, and uh that everything is based on those basic principles.
And I take those principles and you know, for example, I come to uh pro-life conclusion there.
And when we had issues, you know, for eight years when I was in the United States Senate about whether or not the federal government should be funding, for example, abortion-related activities and things of that nature, you know.
The application of those principles in that instance told me the answer was no properly.
I I guarantee you, Charlie Rose is a clueless here.
None of this, this is he's maybe listening to uh, you know, Mongolese uh as as uh Fred Thompson's going through all this.
Just you just sometimes you have to laugh at these poor cliched liberals who just live in the most closeted cocooned world while thinking they are the most worldly and uh erudite among us.
How about this headline?
Romney fires landscapers for illegals.
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Tuesday fired a landscaping company for using illegal immigrants to work on his lawn a week after a tussle with rival Rudy Giuliani over this issue.
Uh you know what struck me about this?
You know what struck me about this?
Not that he fired the illegals, it's that they used the word illegal in the headline.
This is a Reuters story.
Romney fires landscapers for illegals.
Now, if this has been a Democrat, and if the story had even been written, the headline would have been Democrat presidential candidate fires undocumented workers, would never use the word ill-when is the last time you saw the drive-by's use illegal?
They don't do it except now when they can tie it to a Republican.
Mitt Romney.
We'll be back after this.
Don't go away.
By the way, I I forgot to tell you something funny about the uh the Mitt Romney situation.
The drive-by's actually went to Romney's place.
Uh and they and they started talking to the employees of the landscape company.
And they say, How did you guys get here?
And these employees said, Oh, we came in with a coyote man.
Uh they pretty much just admitted they were illegals.
Drive back, whoa, look at.
Now, Romney hired the landscape company.
He did not hire the illegals per se.
Um, you know, I don't know how many of you people hire landscape companies or painters or what have you.
Do you ask them if if anybody, if everybody on their uh on their payroll is legit?
Uh, and if you did ask them, do you expect them to be honest with you?
Uh and so forth.
So it's this is just it's just the drive-by is go to Romney's place.
And these guys on the cruise, oh, yeah, we came in with the coyotes.
And we go, well, however, they got that they admitted that um that they were illegal.
Listen to this.
This is Joe Biden.
Last night with Chris Matthews on Hardboiled.
Matthews says, why did we invade Iraq?
Senator Biden.
Why were we threatening World War III with Iran?
Why did this administration, Cheney and a president, keep pushing a war?
Why do they always want to fight or scare somebody?
What what is it about if it's not weapons?
I can't prove it.
I think it's about our ability to try to dominate that region of the world and control oil.
The only thing I can fit together with Cheney and his gang is that they went to war, they're smarter than they are acting.
They're smarter than they're acting.
They went to war in the hope that they would be able to do two things.
One, have a government that sat on a whole bunch of oil that still exists in the world that would be indebted to us.
Two, have permanent military bases in Iraq to dominate that part of the world to be able to control oil.
Not to go steal it for American oil companies, but be able to control the price and control the access of it.
A very Machivelian view.
You know, I uh multiple reactions to this.
He's very deft here for Senator Biden starts out and says he can't prove it.
He says, I don't think they're trying to get the oil for big oil and so forth.
Can I give you a real simple uh reality?
And there's there's it may be controversial, but it's inarguable.
This is a world that runs on fossil fuels, folks.
And it's going to run on fossil fuels long after you and I and your grandkids are dead.
It is going to run on fossil fuels.
Look at you're not wind, solar, all it's pipe dream stuff as we sit here and speak now.
Would somebody explain to me what is so immoral about the leaders of this country attempting to maintain a supply and access to the fossil fuel that runs the world and runs our economy?
It is the fuel.
I'm not suggesting Biden is right.
What I'm suggesting here is that even if a part of all of this strategy here is to maintain the free flow of oil at market prices, what in the name of Sam Hill is wrong with that?
What's the crime?
Where's the immorality in it?
What's wrong with having a friendly nation in the Middle East, allied with us?
What's wrong with this?
Biden says all of this as though he's indicting and Bush as criminals over oil.
Now I know this kind of thing plays well with these nutbins that make up the Democrat Party base.
But I ask you as a serious question from human being to human being, what in the world is so immoral or wrong or irresponsible about trying to maintain the free flow of oil at market prices for the purposes of the U.S. economy and its growth.
That's jobs, that's people's lifestyles, that's people's lives.
What is so wrong with this?
I I am not conceding that's what this was all about.
I'm only reacting to Biden and his attitude here that somehow A nation that thrives and lives and depends on and requires the free flow of oil at market prices is somehow criminally disposed if it seeks to maintain the free flow of oil at market prices.
Hell's bells, folks.
Somebody's got to do something to protect us from liberals and Democrats.
We can't drill for our own oil in Alaska.
We can't drill for it in the Gulf, while the Chicoms and the Cubans and the Mexicans are and the Brazilians are.
But we can't.
We can't open our capped wells and get well that were capped back in the 80s and get that flower.
We can't do that.
We can't use our own.
Where are we going to get it?
This attitude that these Democrats, I mean, I it's like I said yesterday.
We get up every day, come in here, and what this job has become in large measure is defending this country against these people.
And their screwball ideas.
You know, Senator Biden takes a train home to Delaware every day.
He doesn't have a place in Washington when he has to stay chums with somebody.
What does he think his Amtrak train runs on?
What does he think the lights and the air conditioning in his Senate office run of the restaurants that he goes out to?
What does he think powers all of this?
This is just this is the height of irresponsibility, this answer about oil.
He's trying to indict Bush and Cheney as only caring about that that all the rest of this was just a side show.
They actually want to get their hands on the world's oil supply, the Middle East's oil supply.
Somebody has to do something to get around the obstacles posed to growth and freedom in this country by liberal Democrats and the Democrat Party in general today.
Here is uh Steve in uh Saginaw, Michigan.
Steve, I'm glad you called.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey Rush, Merry Christmas.
I got one question.
Why don't we let neighbors around Iran worry about the nukes they may or may not have?
If they have more to lose than we ever thought of having to lose it, it's their oil field that they're gonna lose.
That's if they don't have the ability to get it out of, you know, range of their uh, you know, the real tight neighborhood.
I mean, we could implement Star Wars and protect ourselves.
Who gives a crap about them and their oil?
Uh Christmas, though.
Uh, who gives a crap about them and their oil?
Well, I mean, I want their oil, sure, but I mean we worry about the uh Ahmudinejad so much.
Uh why?
Who cares?
It's a neighborhood that's going to get damaged most of the more than we are.
I understand nuclear is not a good thing, but give me a break.
We protect our own borders, which Trump doesn't want to do, but anyway.
Are you are you going to vote uh next November?
Oh, hell yeah.
Oh no.
Why?
Oh no.
Is that bad?
It's that bad.
Oh my gosh.
It's that bad.
You ever have you heard of the concept of leadership?
Of what?
Have you heard of the concept and do you understand the concept of leadership?
Leadership.
Leadership, yeah.
So the Saudis don't have any right, they don't they don't need to take control of their own little neck of the woods.
Uh we got to do it for them.
We got a police of their world.
Did you did you did you just you were on hold.
Did you hear what I just had to say about the importance and relevance of oil to this.
No, I didn't.
I didn't.
But I I I I did.
I know, I know we do have to have oil.
I know oil.
I'm not stupid.
Come on, Rush.
Well, yeah, but that's what you need to open your eyes.
Why?
Because we can't take charge of everything.
The Saudis cannot, they do not have an army.
They do not buy one.
The Iranians do.
That's not they buy one?
The Iranians are slowly and surely surrounding them.
Have you heard about Hezbollah?
Have you heard about Human?
Who is funding them?
Guess we had You know, the United Arab Emirates don't have a military.
Okay.
But it's m it's it's it's it's more than that.
We're the United States of America.
We are the lone superpower of the world.
The things that are being discussed here regarding Iran have to do with our self-interest.
Our own national security and protecting the free flow of oil at market prices is clearly in a top ten Of U.S. national security, maybe in the top five, and it may be even number one.
And as the leader of the we cannot farm out our national security.
We cannot farm out our national interest to others who have really no interest in ours because they know we can take care of ourselves.
I really don't understand the idea.
Let them handle it.
Let them take care of their own.
We're talking nuclear here.
If Iran gets hold of, say the Saudi oil supply and its own, you want to live in that world.
I'm getting so many emails from people.
Look, Rosh, you know what you're talking about.
Shake it all over is not by the guess who, it's by the who.
No, it's the guess who.
And look, I am the former top 40 DJ, my friends.
I know this.
This uh they covered this in 1965.
They were they were chipped something or other in the Excel series back then, but they were the guess who.
Uh and in fact, the guess who is all excited.
I've added their song to the bumper rotation.
I got an autographed picture of the band.
I got two CDs with the song on it.
It's the guess who don't doubt me.
Yeah, it came FedEx yesterday.
Brian brought it in even know what it was.
Well, that's because you didn't open it.
I understand that.
And I didn't, I didn't tell anybody till just now, but it's just right over there.
Nice little letter from their agent up in Minnesota thanking me for adding a tune uh to the bumper rotation here at the EIB network.
One thing about this this last caller that we had.
What was his name, uh, Mr. Sterley, do you remember?
I don't want to be disrespectful and um we didn't write it down.
But this is not a Stephen Sagano mission.
This is not a neighborhood problem over there.
That that's I think that's things people can't get their arms around here.
This is not a neighborhood problem.
Uh look at I understand, you know, you a little knowledge is okay, but you know what the biggest problem uh that it has a huge cost.
Um, I'm not making a joke here.
Ignorance is the most expensive thing this country pays for.
In so many ignorance is what allows this global warming hoax to be believed by a bunch of people who simply are ignorant.
I'm not saying stupid, they just don't know, and yet they think they do.
It's like the example from yesterday.
In the last 50 years, CO2 levels in the atmosphere are up, so are global temperatures.
Ah, well, see, CO2 is causing.
We don't know this.
We can't prove it.
It has yet to be established.
And yet, people believe it because in a linear way it makes sense, but it's total ignorance that allows the belief to happen.
Same thing here with uh with the situation in the Middle East, be it Iraq, be it Iran, be it al Qaeda, be it the war on terror flee for free flow of oil at market prices.
Let them handle it.
It's not our problem.
It's ignorance.
And we pay a huge price for this.
The biggest price we pay for ignorance is electing so damn many Democrats, which is one of the biggest obstacles to progress and success in this country for the individual human being that I have ever encountered.
It is ignorance, devotion to ignorance, bliss, blissful ignorance.
Can the is the only explanation for the election of Democrats.
If any if people actually sat down and thought about this and learned what the differences in the uh two ideologies are, conservatism and uh liberalism.
See, liberalism didn't even think about it, because it's all feelings.
It's the most gutless choice you can make.
All you have to do is be a liberal and you're a good person, and you care, and you have tolerance, all this rot gut that's not even true.
It's just easy.
And your ignorance allows you to believe a hoax, it allows you to believe a you know a bunch of propaganda.
Ignorance, the most expensive thing we pay for in the United States.
Here's Pat in Houston, Texas.
Pat, welcome to the EIB network, sir.
Nice to have you with us.
Uh Megadetto, long time listener for a second time caller.
Thank you, sir.
Um I was a former CI case officer, and I worked on two NIEs in the past, both of them on the Middle East.
Wait a second.
Can I ask you a question?
Yes.
Um, you know, anybody don't don't take this personally.
Please don't.
Anyone can call a radio show and say anything.
And I just want to establish I didn't think former CIA people could talk about it.
Um yeah, I can.
I've I've been gone for a number of years.
And uh you can't you can't talk about specific um actions, sources, methods, but you can uh generally acknowledge that you work for agency.
Okay.
You can acknowledge you were there.
Okay, proceed, thank you.
Okay, the um the NIEs are really puff pieces.
They are by design um low-level classification releases of information.
And the material that goes in is low classified as classified on a low level.
It's confidential or secret.
Um so really it's just garbage in garbage out.
The actual actionable intelligence that's real time of value is has a much higher classification.
So for example, anything that the NSA does is top secret and code word.
By that nature, it can't be revealed or utilized or discussed for an NIE estimate.
On the A on the CIA's material, a lot of the agent material that you would get, the raw intelligence, would carry much higher classification than can be used in a national intelligence estimate.
So they are by design mostly INR uh State Department INR material.
Why not?
Because the text of the NIE is never made public.
The only people who can see it are are intelligence uh committee members of the House and Senate.
Uh the the you know, the key judgment, the little summary that we got on Monday is made public, but none of the reasoning and none of the none of the evidence or the intelligence that led to this key judgment will ever be known.
It can't be.
And the NIE that has been released, there's there are a number of versions of this.
There is a a top secret classified version which will differ from the one that's been made public because it has real-time intelligence, it has the protecting sources of methods.
So when you get to a very low-level classified release like this one was, it is dated material, it is material that is um acquired through less than sophisticated means.
So by design, it's a tough piece.
All right, let me ask you a question.
Hypothetical question, but this happens.
We will get a government report on jobs or a government report of the economy, and then a month later we'll get the revised version and we'll find that economic growth was higher than the original release, jobs, many things of this of of this nature.
Is it possible that uh in the coming days or weeks when people have read this whole thing, that they might say, you know what, that was a premature conclusion that the full report doesn't actually say they gave up their program in 2003.
That was just in the key judgment in the little release.
Is it possible this thing's gonna be get reversed once somebody sees a whole thing?
Yes.
Because the um in those key judgments of release, it doesn't say that they restarted the program in 2005 or the restarted in 2006, or that uh the Iranian Ministry of Defense is having shipments from Pakistan as we speak or from China.
That is so highly classified it would not be in the NIE, but there will be reports delivered to the people with those security clearances that will identify precisely what's going on.
Is it troubling to you as a former uh spook that only now in 2007 are we figuring out that they supposedly shut down the nuclear weapons program in 2003 four years ago?
I I wouldn't believe it.
I would believe that some State Department cocktail conversation came out where a Jordanian ambassador spoke to some State Department person in Amon Jordan and said that, and that got uh created into a legend, and that would be the result of a uh a State Department key judgment.
The I'm just saying that there's there's a lot of intelligence, raw, actual intelligence that never sees the light of day to an NIE.
However, there are lots of reports that are delivered to the top policymakers that are highly classified that have a lot more accuracy to them.
Well, the problem with this is that it's been released.
And now everybody believes that the nuclear program in Iran has been shut down.
And uh people who are saying this ties the president's hands on increased tightening sanctions, uh future military action are exactly right.
Uh so if if that was the purpose, if that if that were if there was a political purpose behind this key judgment released on Monday, then it's it's it's been successful.
Because even now two weeks from now, if something changes, uh who's gonna hear about it?
Who's gonna it's it's just this is this is just I don't know, doesn't pass smell test to me.
Uh and and and and to listen now to the uh Democrats go wailing and just cheering this and so forth is doubly troubling to me uh because they're not even looking at the substance of the issue.
Pete uh Pat, I appreciate the phone call.
I gotta take a brief time out here, folks.
Much more straight ahead.
Stay with us.
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What do you make of this, folks?
Uh Chinese military has added mobile showers to its ever more sophisticated military arsenal.
State media reported today, the camouflaged shower vehicle can be set up in five minutes, allows twenty men to shower simultaneously within a narrow ten square meter, that's a hundred and eight square feet, space.
The introduction of the shower vehicle means that China's men and women in uniform can now get a hot shower once a week while out in the field.
Uh China's military budget set to rise 17.8% this year, triggering fears abroad about how the rising Asian power plans to spend the money.
What do you mean how they plan to spend the money?
If the military budget's going up 17.8%, they're gonna spend it on military things.
The uh Chicoms.
That's that's why this Middle East thing is not a neighborhood problem.
These people are gearing up for something, even if it's just defense, they obviously think they may need to defend themselves uh for some reason.
This the United States of America, my friends, is a great country at serious risk in a dangerous world.
And it always has been.
Here's something.
This is a campaign trail here, the sixteen thousand member New Hampshire affiliate of the National Education Association, that is the teachers' union, has chosen to recommend to its members Mike Huckabee in the Republican primary and Hill Hillary Clinton.
I'm not joking, in Hillary Clinton in the Democrat primary, according to a source within the New Hampshire NEA, that's the first time the state affiliate has picked a candidate in the GOP primary, and it follows Huckabee's showing as the only Republican who spoke to the NEA convention in July.
So the New Hampshire NEA branch, a teachers union branch endorsing Huckabee on a Republican side and Hillary on the uh Democrat side.
Wash your mouth out with that.
Kim in Williamsburg, Pennsylvania.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Kiddos, Rush.
Uh quite one question about this NIE.
Uh, what does this do to Israel?
If if the Mossad sees something going on in in in Iran, aren't they just hamstrung?
Uh aren't they just no.
I mean, how can they act there the world is gonna come down on them like a ton of bricks.
Uh did the world come down on them like a ton of bricks when they blew up a nuclear plant in Syria not long ago.
No, but there hadn't been an NIE about Syria.
Doesn't it matter?
You know, the the thing about that incident was that the Saudis, none of the Arab world issued a peep.
None of them said a word about, and nobody knew it.
The Saudis didn't know about it.
The Israelis knew about it.
We might have.
Uh, and they went in there and they blew the thing to Smitherenes.
And I guarantee you, old Basher Assad and uh Mahmoud Ahmadinizad had to be scared witless because the Israelis were able to penetrate radar.
They got in and out of there before the Syrians knew they'd been hit.
Uh none of the Russian radar worked, none of the detection systems that they got from the Russians worked.
Uh the Israelis were able to get in there stealthily.
Well, I hope you're right, but I just hope Israel doesn't think that way.
Or think I hope they don't do or not do something that's Israel Israel is not going to act indiscriminately or without provocation.
But they are not.
Look at Israel is is they've got to be somebody over there in their government has to be looking at what's happening here this week with the NIE and saying, oh, we're stranded again.
It's going to be up to us.
And believe me, they are not going to allow themselves to be bombed off the earth or marched into the Mediterranean Sea because of an NIE report.
If they've got evidence that Iran's building up nukes and is planning to use them, they're not going to wait.
They'll answer the questions later, but they are going to save themselves.
They're going to preserve their nation, and they're going to send a message to anybody else who might try it at the same time.
All righty.
I feel better.
You should.
Thanks.
You bet.
Here's Stacy in Chicago, your next in the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, Russ.
How are you doing today?
I'm fine, never better.
Oh, that's great.
Well, actually, I have been better, but it's marginal.
My question was about uh actually about Mike Huckabee.
And um it's basically my I'm I'm really interested in finding out if if Mike Huckabee wins the primary.
Yes.
Do you think that he can beat Hillary on the subject of domestic and foreign issue?
So she wins the if she wins the nominee.
Um I would hope so.
Because I remember you saying before that if Hillary wins, she'll she's gonna get beat by you know I mean, she you know, bring her on.
She's got very high negatives.
She's her negatives are up to uh fifty percent.
So since you brought this up, let me there's a new Zogby poll out.
Uh came out this morning, and it basically the the numbers for people uh uh the Republican and Democrat side uh haven't changed.
Uh Democrat numbers in Iowa are very stable.
They haven't changed much in a year.
Uh it looks like in the Zogby poll, it looks like Hillary's got not much to worry about in Iowa, but there are other polls out there says Barack's poll ahead of her.
Uh these polls are i i they are what they are when it comes to you know the horse race aspect, but there's something fascinating in the Zogby poll.
And it is this.
Voters on both sides, Republican and Democrat voters, are mad as hell.
They say they are, with the political system.
And we're talking huge numbers here.
Eighty-one percent of Democrats, seventy-five percent of Republicans are mad as hell at the political system in the Zogwee poll, uh, which means that it's wide open for the right person who can communicate real ideas in a way that can be understood and appreciated.
Uh and what was fascinating about this to me is that this poll comes out, says that people are fed up, by the way, most of the anger is directed at Congress in the Zogby poll, but the anger is is very thoroughly encompass of the entire political system.
And people are they're tired of the negative ads.
They are they're they're they're fed up with the most interesting thing is the mindset of the voter.
They're angry and they're in no mood for politics as usual.
When that means negative ads, negative politics.
Uh and the uh, you know, any any the Zogby people think that any uh really nasty campaign to campaign attacks that go on are gonna hurt the attacker more than the attacked.
Now what's what's interesting is this poll comes out with this data the same week that Mrs. Clinton promises to ratchet up the attacks on Obama.
And her negatives have gone up in this.
She's like at 50 percent.
Maybe that's the Rasmussen poll.
I forget one of these polls I've got here today, her negatives are now up to 50 uh from 44 uh in whatever the uh whatever the poll is.
There's so many of them today I'm confused as to which one.
But um the it it may explain why Obama is so low key.
You know, he's uh he's actually somewhat lifeless here, but uh he's he's certainly he's not exchanging in the mud toss uh that is that is going on.
It's gonna be interesting to see if if uh if this data uh these data are correct.
Back here in just a minute.
All right, we got audio sound bites of the uh NPR radio Democrat debate yesterday coming up with uh other exciting polling data out there and analysis.
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