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Nov. 28, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 28, 2007, Wednesday, Hour #3
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I mentioned a talk about, meant to talk about this yesterday.
Didn't get to it.
It's this story about denial that was in the New York Times.
Denial makes the world go round for years.
It has political applications is why I'm going to spend a little time out of here.
For years, she hid the credit card bills from her husband, the $2,500 embroidered coat from Neiman Marcus, the $900 beaded scarf from Blake in Chicago, a 600 pair, $600 pair of boots, all beautiful items, all perfectly affordable if she had been a hedge fund manager or a Google executive.
Friends at first dropped hints to go easy or rechannel her creative instincts.
Her mother grew concerned enough to ask pointed questions, but sales clerks kept calling with early tips on the coming fashions, seasons, fashions, and the seasons kept changing.
It got so bad I would sit up suddenly at night and wonder if I was going to slip up and this whole thing would explode, said the secretive shopper, Catherine Farrington, 46, freelance film writer living in Washington who is now free of debt.
I don't know how I could have been in denial about it for so long, I guess.
I guess I was optimistic I could pay and that I wasn't hurting anybody.
Well, of course, that wasn't true.
Everyone is in denial about something.
Just try denying it and watch friends make a list.
For Freud, denial was a defense against external realities that threaten the ego.
Many psychologists today would argue that it can be a protective defense in the face of unbearable news like a cancer diagnosis.
In the modern vernacular, to say someone is in denial is to deliver a savage combination punch.
One shot to the belly for the cheating or drinking or bad behavior, another slap to the head for the cowardly self-deception of pretending it's not a problem.
Yet, recent studies from fields as diverse as psychology and anthropology suggest that the ability to look the other way, while potentially destructive, is also critically important to forming and nourishing close relationships.
The psychological tricks that people use to ignore a festering problem in their own households are the same ones that they need to live with every human dishonesty and betrayal their own and others.
And it is these highly evolved abilities, research suggests, that provide the foundation for that most disarming of all human invitations, forgiveness.
In this emerging view, social scientists see denial on a broader spectrum, from benign inattention to passive acknowledgement to full-blown willful blindness on the part of couples, social groups, and organizations, as well as individuals.
Seeing denial in this way, some scientists argue, helps clarify when it's wise to manage a difficult person or personal situation and when it threatens to become a kind of infectious, silent trance that can make hypocrites of otherwise forthright people.
Michael McCullough, psychologist, University of Miami, author of the coming book Beyond Revenge, The Evolution of the Forgiveness Instinct, says the closer you look, the more clearly you see that denial is part of the uneasy bargain we strike to be social creatures.
We really do want to be moral people, but the fact is that we cut corners to get individual advantage, and we rely on the room that denial gives us to get by to wiggle out of speeding tickets and to forgive others for doing the same.
The capacity for denial appears to have evolved in part to offset early humans' hypersensitivity to violations of trust.
In small kin groups, identifying liars and two-faced cheats was a matter of survival.
A few bad rumors could mean a loss of status or even expulsion from the group, which was a death sentence.
In a series of recent studies, a team of researchers led by Peter Kim, University of Southern California, Donald Farron, University of Buffalo, had groups of business students rate the trustworthiness of a job applicant after learning the person had committed an infraction at a previous job.
Participants watched a film of a job interview in which the applicant was confronted with the problem and either denied or apologized for it.
If the infraction was described as a mistake and the applicant apologized, viewers gave him the benefit of the doubt said they would trust him with job responsibilities.
But if the infraction was described as fraud and the person apologized, viewers' trust evaporated and even having evidence that he had been cleared of misconduct did not entirely restore that trust.
This story goes on and on.
Nowhere do people use denial skills to greater effect than with a spouse or a partner in a series of studies.
Researchers have shown that people often idealize their partners, overestimating their strengths and playing down their flaws.
Really, if that's the case, how come we still have such a high divorce rate?
This typically involves a blend of denial and touch-up work, but the studies have found that partners who idealize each other in this way are more likely to stay together and to report being satisfied in the relationship than those who do not.
Now, what does all this add up to?
What all this adds up to?
This is kind of like in the 90s when Clinton was out there lying through his teeth each and every day.
We get stories, but you know, these white lives, good.
They save relationships.
They spare feelings.
Now we're getting the same thing here presented in a psychological context about denial.
That if your husband or your wife is cheating on you and you know it, just easier to try to ignore it.
Just deny it because you'll keep the relationship together.
And if you mention it, it could cause friction.
Now, is there a couple out there that might benefit from this kind of news in the New York Times?
I ask you that question pointedly.
And I really actually think that this whole theory helps to explain the liberal drive-bys and the Democrats in general.
Because they are in denial.
They do tell themselves stories because they have no compass.
They have no set belief system.
No guardrails, the moral code at least.
I mean, remember, liberalism is an ideology which replaces religion because they don't like the strict codes of conduct and behavior, morality, and so forth that religion teaches.
You know this as well as I do.
They don't want to be judged on the basis of their behavior.
So liberalism exempts them from any standards.
And as such, they are living in denial about who they are and what they think and what they say.
They have no foundation to help them know right from wrong.
Don't care about right and wrong.
So they hire people like George Lackoff rhymes with to redefine their sins so they can handle living with them.
I think this explains totally the unmitigated love fest that drive-bys and liberals and Democrats have for the Clintons.
They lie through their teeth.
Everybody knows that they are a programmed pair seeking total power, that they are disingenuous, and yet they're loved.
There has to be a sense of denial about who they are.
And this denial is now all of a sudden being said to be healthy, ladies and gentlemen.
It's healthy to ignore deficiencies, cheating, lying.
It's healthy to be in denial, up to a point, of course, because it just we idealize our spouses and our partners, and of course, we idealize the Clintons.
And when you idealize your partner or your spouse, why it makes denial all that much easier because when you idealize your partner, they're incapable of doing anything wrong.
Why else would you idealize them?
And if they do something blatantly wrong right in your face, you deny it because you've idealized them and they don't really mean to do what they did.
And you love them.
So another excuse has been now written in the liberal Bible, the New York Times, for excusing destructive behavior.
Quick timeout, we'll be back.
Stay with us.
I know, I know.
I just saw something on television.
I didn't believe I saw it, but I did see it.
I don't even remember what it is now.
Greetings.
Welcome back.
Rush Limbaugh here on the cutting edge.
Carrie in Long Island.
It's great to have you here.
Thank you for calling.
Hi, Rush.
Hi.
This is a former Democrat, George W. Bush-loving listener, first-time caller.
Appreciate that.
I have a theory about why President Clinton is saying goofy things that seem designed to torpedo Hillary's chance at the White House.
I think he is trying to torpedo her chance.
My idea is that, you know, if she does become president, she's immediately a wartime president.
That means she's immediately already a more compelling, more relevant president than he could have been as a peacetime president.
And I think also any move she makes as a wartime president will be compared to everything he didn't do in the 1990s, you know, when the USS Cole was attacked or when our holdings in various embassies were attacked.
I think anything she does as a wartime president will be shown in light of all of his inaction as president.
I think that his ego is just not going to be able to tolerate it.
Interesting theory, especially coming from a woman.
That makes it even more interesting to me.
Wiser, too.
Yes.
Yes.
He's a sneaky one.
That's just the kind of thing I say.
Well, you know, I think it is curious.
You know, I was reading something earlier today.
There's radar online, I guess a gossip magazine or something, and they've got gossip and news.
And they've got this interview with Ben Bradley, who's now 86.
He was the editor of the Washington Post.
And he's married to Sally Quinn, who used to be back when Democrats ran Washington, the social doyenne.
I mean, you didn't get your bona fides in Washington until Sally Quinn invited you to a dinner party and kissed your ring, or you had to kiss hers.
And there haven't been any dinner parties going on, Lily, because the Republicans run the show, and Sally Quinn and Ben Bradley don't care to have the Bushes over.
They did have the Clintons over.
Ben Bradley in his interview was asked what he thinks about Hillary.
He says, well, I like her more than some of the people under my roof, meaning his wife, Sally.
And he goes on to say, I'm amazed at the number of women who do not like her.
Now, the circle that Ben Bradley and Sally Quinn travel in is the drive-by media super-elite Washington Press Corps.
Well, can I tell you as a woman, I have friends on both sides of the aisle, because, like I said, I'm a former Democrat.
I don't know a woman who likes Hillary.
Well, no, that's not true.
I do know one woman who likes Hillary, but, you know, she's my sister, and what can I do?
Well, what is the reason the ones who don't like her don't like her?
They think that she's duplicitous.
They think that she's either an opportunist who stayed with Bill simply to acquire power, or they dislike her sense of entitlement that she's simply supposed.
I mean, the interview that you had earlier with Katie Clark, where she just hasn't even occurred to her that she won't be the nominee.
That whole sense of entitlement, the total lack of humor, total lack of humility, and just the sense that she's power-hungry.
Well, you know, that's a good point.
Goddesses don't laugh.
Okay.
But if you can't laugh at yourself, eventually someone's going to laugh you into extinction.
I think Obama might do it.
And he's learning how to mock her.
Well, he's Obama's, Obama's got his own problems.
Well, not really problems, but Washington Post has a blog called a fact-checker.
Is it the fact?
Yeah.
And the headline today is Obama tells a whopper.
And they quote him saying the following two things.
We have a president who chortled about the fact that he has not left the country before he was president.
It's very hard for us to lecture others about their economies when we've doubled the national debt during one presidential term or during the administration of a single president.
That's Barack Obama in Portsmouth at a foreign policy forum in New Hampshire yesterday.
Is it true that George Bush had limited foreign travel experience prior to becoming president?
Well, it's a myth.
Here are the facts.
These are the places George Bush traveled internationally before he was president.
He went to China in the 70s when his dad was the U.S. representative in Beijing.
He's been to Japan, he's been to Mexico, been to Spain, been to the United Kingdom, been to Ireland, and been to Israel.
And those are just the names off the top of his head that longtime press aide Gordon Jondre provided to the Washington Post blog in answer to the question.
Also, the business about double your national debt is not true either.
Now, this is just a blog.
It's just a Washington Post blog.
And it won't appear in the newspaper, but they've got fact-checking going on and the headline, Obama tells a whopper.
You know, this is, it's really strange to see the drive-bys going after these guys.
Now, they're not going after Hillary.
They are going after Bill or going after Obama.
They're not really touching the Brecht girl much because I think that he's in a self-destruct mode.
Let's go back to the audio soundbites because we'll get to that here in just a second.
Back to one more bit from Hillary Clinton's interview with Katie Couric.
Katie Couric says, it was announced today that Oprah Winfrey will be campaigning with Senator Obama, three states, Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina.
How do you feel about that?
I think it's great.
I think we should have people campaign for us who support us.
I'm proud to have a lot of very distinguished Americans as well as people who just get up every day and work hard for a living.
I'm proud to have my husband support me.
It's wonderful to have someone with his knowledge and experience and incredible ability to vouch for me campaigning for me.
Yeah, that's Monday night, and he goes out and sabotages her yesterday in Iowa with this.
Yeah, I'm wondering what her reaction is.
I wonder if she knew this was going to happen.
Was this part of a plan?
Is he out there freelancing?
Because remember, he said it twice.
We had that call from Iowa.
He said it twice.
Distinguished.
You know she's not happy with Obama getting Oprah on a campaign trail.
Oh, I think it's great.
I think we should have people campaign for us who support us.
I am proud to have a lot of very distinguished Americans, as well as people who just get up every day and work hard for notice who's distinguished and who's not.
I was once called a distinguished American, by the way, by Al Gore in his debate with Ross Perot over NAFTA.
My tenure as a distinguished American was short-lived.
It didn't last much beyond the show.
Now, the Brett girl decided that he had to respond to the interview that Hillary did with Katie Couric, so he went on the nightly news with Brian Williams, who said Senator Clinton yesterday told an interviewer she was certain that she'd be the nominee, absolutely certain of her own success.
What do you have to blunt that assertion by the senator?
She's certain she's living in a fantasy world.
I've been through this before in 2004.
Governor Dane looked like he had an absolute lock on the nomination, and he didn't win a single primary or a single caucus at this same stage.
He looked like a lock in 2003.
I would say don't count your chickens before they hatch.
There's a Brett girl, don't count your chickens before they hatch, disputing Hillary Clinton's claim of inevitability.
Jerry Annatic, Massachusetts, welcome to the program.
Hi, Rush.
You know, I'm listening to your program today, and it seems that there are two major, big bombshell stories revealed by your callers.
The first was the infiltrator that listened to the Clinton speech in Iowa that basically said he was purposeful in saying that he was against the Iraq war.
But the other big bombshell story, really, it's a gigantic story, is that the caller, the representative that revealed that in the New Hampshire general election, they bus in voters from other states.
Now, New Hampshire was a pivotal closed state in the last general election.
These are major bombshell stories to say nothing of the fact that the whole Hillary unraveling started on your program to begin with, the driver's license.
These are major, major stories.
I know the New Hampshire story especially, because when we read that yesterday, I thought this was just about the primary.
But now the state representative in New Hampshire said it's the general.
You can come in, and all you have to do is be able to lie when you show up to vote, and they'll let you vote.
You don't have to be a resident of New Hampshire in order to vote there.
I don't know how long, I don't know how long ago this changed.
He kept talking about how the Republicans ran the state for 100 years, but I have to believe this hasn't been SOP for a long time.
I have a couple stories here on New York Governor Elliot Spitzer.
One of them is in the New York Times from today.
The other one is from the New York Sun, both stories today.
Here's the first one.
Headline, Spitzer, this New York Times.
Spitzer, hat in hand, asks fellow Democrats in the Assembly for a second chance.
After meeting his bride-to-be, the Southern Bread Silla Wall at Harvard Law School in the 80s, he asked her out.
She said no, but he was persistent.
And she finally agreed.
Now they're happily married.
All he wants from the Assembly members, whose affections for him have largely evaporated in the last 11 months, is a similar sort of second chance, like the one he had with his wife, Spitzer told Democrats in the New York Assembly.
That set the tone for the whole meeting, said Assemblyman Rory Lanceman, a Queens Democrat, who attended a closed-door meeting with the governor at the Marriott in downtown Brooklyn.
People didn't feel the need to stand up and harangue him for being a bad partner.
It was an atypically self-deprecating appearance for Mr. Spitzer, who faces a difficult legislative season in the months ahead and is doing his best to woo the lawmakers in his party in advance.
What I said was that it's like a family.
We have common worldview, a deep affection for one another.
Sometimes we scobble, squabble, Spitzer told reporters after the meeting.
It's not just a metaphor that I'm using because it's cheap and easy.
The Assembly Democrats were gathered for their annual retreat, and at times the conversation seemed better suited to the back and forth on Dr. Phil than the rough and tumble of New York politics.
As with any relationship talk, there appeared to be much discussion about communicating better.
Spitzer sidestepped questions about taxes, according to people in the room, but he was more vocal about spending.
Anyway, let's go to the New York Sun story.
We just had a big little puff piece here in the New York Times about how Spitzer had to go woo Assembly Democrats in New York.
They're unhappy with him, the way he's been operating the last 11 months, and he said, we got to get along, and we got to try to put ourselves together like I did with my wife.
And you've got to forgive me.
It was like a Dr. Phil show.
Next story, New York Sun, Spitzer orders charters to pay union wages without seeking legislative approval.
The Spitzer administration has quietly ordered charter schools to start paying union wages on all construction, repair, and maintenance projects.
Handed down by an administration that has encouraged the growth of charter schools in New York.
The new policy came as a surprise to charter school operators and affects.
Anyway, the point is that this group therapy didn't take.
It didn't work on Spitzer.
He goes and woos these guys and then makes a move like this over his head.
Have you heard what Madonna's been doing to her sheep?
She'd been dying them different colors.
Blue, pink, yellow.
She'd been dying their wool.
And the animal rights activists are outraged.
Animal rights activists are simply outraged at Madonna for this violation of the dignity of sheep.
I know they do it a lot of places, in some cases to mark certain ones.
But what do these animal rights wackos think happens to wool when it's cut off?
It grows back.
This is not harming the sheep at all.
Sheep probably have a fashion sense.
Probably enjoy being a little individualistic there in the herd.
Tiffany in Sullivan, Missouri.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
I'm a Fred Thompson supporter, and I wanted to say a couple of things about him.
First of all, when the, you know, when Giuliani and Romney and everybody else started running for the presidency, it seemed like everyone in the media was just saying, what are they doing?
Why are they starting this so early?
Nobody's even thinking about the presidential election.
And then later on, when Fred Thompson joined in running at what was a much more appropriate time, then they all started saying, well, this Fred Thompson, you know, he must not really want to be president because he's been, you know, he just now, um, told us he wanted to be one.
Um, he, he must not really have much passion for the, um, for the job, which, you know, seems.
Well, I think what people were saying was he appeared to be indecisive, uh, couldn't make up his mind.
And that's why it took him so long.
Indecisiveness.
Thompson's critics were trying to use that as a sort of a bludgeon says, hey, you can't have a president's indecisive, and Fred can't even figure out if he wants it.
This is something you've got to have fire in your belly about.
That's also the root of all the talk that Fred seems lazy and low-key.
Well, you know, I just think they're looking at it the wrong way because when Fred Thompson says something, he really means it.
And when a reporter asks him a question that tries to knock him off his game, they're not able to do it.
He's able to come back and say exactly what he thinks, which is the same thing that he said before.
Whereas these other candidates, they can be flustered, and they may sound decisive, but what they're saying is different from what they said before.
I just think he's a much more presidential, thoughtful, sure of what he thinks person when he finally says something.
And in contrast to him, his wife, I don't know if you've seen her on TV, she is the fastest talker in the world, but she too is very knowledgeable and very decisive about what she says.
I was very impressed.
I thought she was probably just a mommy at home.
How long have you been a Thompson supporter?
Ever since I decided not to be a Huckabee reporter supporter, I've gone all around to different people.
And I was for Huckabee until I read about the taxes he raised and the ethical problems that he may have had in his past.
And that really changed my mind.
I decided we know everything about Fred Thompson.
Well, you know, have you heard of Latest Paul?
Huckabee in the Erasmus and Poll's three points ahead of Romney now.
He's leading the pack there.
Well, I know.
Well, I think people just haven't heard these latest assertions about him.
I mean, I just heard them a couple of days ago.
Let me tell you this.
I mean, he's got the largest percentage.
He's got more evangelicals in this poll, anyway.
More evangelicals support him than all the other candidates combined.
Well, Thompson has right to life.
I think as time goes by, people are going to take a closer look at Huckabee and Thompson and realize that Thompson is much more presidential and much has the calm assurance.
Let me ask you.
Why did you feel compelled today to call and give us a rah raw for Fred Thompson?
I'm just curious.
I'm not upset that you did.
I'm just, what motivated you to get out there, call a phone here today, or call a show today on a phone?
Well, because everybody that I've heard on TV or on the radio is going crazy about how well Huckabee is doing as if he's the greatest, and nobody's saying anything about Thompson.
The fact that Huckabee is passing of Julian, I mean, Romney, is making everybody think that he's something, you know, he's wonderful.
Oh, I know.
I've just seen a couple news stories since the Rasmussen poll came out.
Huckabee's surging.
The drive-by's right here.
Huckabee is surging.
That must be that he's a gift from God, and people are not even talking about Fred Thompson.
And so that's why I wanted to talk about it.
Yeah, but you want to know something?
Let me tell you something.
People weren't talking about Huckabee six weeks ago.
Only I was in terms of what might happen in Iowa.
But you go back two months, nobody was talking about Huckabee either, but he found a way to get himself noticed.
Well, he's getting himself noticed, but these other things are coming out about him.
And when at the end of the day, let me tell you something.
If Fred Thompson's able to start climbing this mountain and he starts showing well in polls, you're going to see the same hit jobs on Fred Thompson, and you're going to see hit jobs on Rudy.
You already have.
You're going to see hit jobs on all these guys.
Well, it's going to come down to issues.
And I think that Thompson's issues are going to win the day.
And not only that, the other candidates who are out there, you know, talking about themselves and making a big show, what they're really doing is going from diner to diner across the country, shaking hands with everybody.
And I don't think that that method works anymore.
He may not be going to every McDonald's and showing up at every high school gym, but I think at the end of the day, people are going to realize that his issues are the ones that are the best.
Let me tell you something.
That may be true in the presidential race because you can't go to every McDonald's.
But when you go to Iowa and New Hampshire, you can travel around those places, and it's tradition, and you have to do it because the voters there expect it.
I mean, they get up this time of year.
They get up and go to these diners because they know that the odds are some candidate's going to come walking in and not leave the waitress a tip and maybe not even pay the bill.
And they want to be there and see the fireworks.
Look, Tiffany, I'm glad you called.
I got to run here because of the constraints of time.
Be right back and continue after this.
By the way, in fairness to Huckabee, we have to point out here that these ethics charges against him in Arkansas when he was governor were brought by the same Democrats who gave Clinton a pass on ethics charges there.
There was a huge political component to those ethic charges, ethics charges against Huckabee in Arkansas.
This is Will in Lowell, Massachusetts.
Will, I'm glad you called.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Yeah, I'm glad I was able to get in touch with you.
I'd like to bring out a fact that the guy that called originally about the voting in New Hampshire is way out of line.
In order for you to vote in New Hampshire, whether it's primary or an election, you have to register.
You can register on the same day that you vote.
However, you cannot register unless you have proof of residency and proof of where you live in the cities where there are wards.
You're not even allowed to vote in another ward unless you're registered in that ward.
You live in Massachusetts.
No, I'm from New Hampshire.
I was just driving through Massachusetts.
I was a selectman and an alderman in New Hampshire.
And the selectmen in New Hampshire and the cities were in the city of the United States.
How long ago?
How long ago were you a selectman in a registrar in New Hampshire?
Just a few years ago.
This thing hasn't changed.
You're still required.
I vote every year, and I go down to the town that I vote in.
Wait a second.
And they know me, and they still check my ID.
Wait a second then.
Now I'm totally confused because the AP story yesterday said that the Democrats changed the rules recently when they just took over.
And I read the story yesterday, and I just assumed it was about the primaries, that you can come in from out of state.
All you have to do to vote in the primary is say that you intend or may move to New Hampshire, that you don't have to live there to vote now.
That's not the right thing.
And there were quotes from Democrats that said, what's wrong with that?
Everybody's got to vote.
What does it matter where?
This was not a parody story.
We had this state representative call today, basically say the same thing has happened after the Republicans lost control of the New Hampshire legislature that they had had for 100 years.
Yeah.
What I'm going to do, Rush, is I'm going to send you the copy of the rules and regulations on voting.
Then you'll have the facts, regardless of what AP said.
Well, I would appreciate it.
Frankly, I can't believe this.
I couldn't believe it yesterday.
Well, not something that blatant.
I mean, I can understand that they would set the rule up, but that nobody would talk about it.
They would just bust the new voters in.
But this big, long, drawn-out story.
And by the way, it wasn't just New Hampshire out there, Will.
This also Iowa in the Hawkeye caucus.
You can show up anywhere at a car.
You don't even have to be voting age.
It sounds like much the same situation.
But I know some people in New Hampshire, and I got a friend who knows somebody in the State House there.
And I'm going to find out about this.
But I mean, would a state representative call here and lie to us about this?
That's why this is such a bombshell if this is true.
And it was a long story with quotes from all these Democrats who were trying to defend this and make anybody who had disagreed with it a fear monger.
It was one of the most amazing things.
Here's Tracy in Northwood, New Hampshire.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi.
Fresh.
Hi.
I am from Northwood, New Hampshire.
I've lived in New Hampshire for 25 years, and I have been registered in three different towns to vote.
And in each instance.
At the same time?
Yeah, you'd think, huh?
Actually, I think my name has been left on some of those registers as I have moved.
And I have obviously called to take myself off when I moved to different areas.
But the point is, it's very easy.
Most of the time, you don't have to show ID.
You have to go in and register.
And this has been an issue for the 25 years that I have lived in New Hampshire.
It has been a big issue that it's very easy to vote.
That's why I think that you should have to show ID.
And, you know, that might be required, but it isn't asked for when you go in.
That's why so many this happens all the time.
And the biggest places that it happens are the big college towns where these kids come in and they can vote in, say, like Dartmouth, Durham, Portsmouth, the places that are close to the border, Vermont and Massachusetts.
And these people come in, especially the college kids, and they vote in their own state, and then they come here and vote, and they can do it in different towns.
So based on your testimony, as a 25-year resident, we would have to conclude that the elements of the story we had yesterday, as confirmed by the state representative today, are true.
Yeah, I would say so.
And in the last election, I believe it was 2004, Ralph Neuter actually asked for the recount and stated these same claims that, you know, this happens in New Hampshire.
And he had had it, he had seen it happen.
You know, he's obviously run so many times, but I wouldn't take his word on anything.
But, you know, this was one thing.
He was the one that protested and asked for a recount.
And, you know, we're going to get to the bottom of this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you say Ralph?
Wait, my hearing, did you say Ralph Neuter?
I did.
Okay.
But you said that on purpose, or is there some candidate we never heard of here, of course?
Well, you know what I mean?
You know what?
I always get him mixed up.
There was a guy in our town where I'm from that was, okay.
He ran for president.
He's not running this time, but he always ran on the Green Party ticket.
His name is Neuter?
No, it's Nader.
Ralph Nader.
So it was just a faux pause, just a slip of the tongue.
It was.
It was.
Yes, because where I'm from, there was a man named Ralph Neuter, and I always got him mixed up.
It's Ralph Nader that runs for president, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
How do you spell Ralph Neuter?
My bad.
How do I spell Ralph Neuter?
Idiot.
Let me see.
I.D.
No, sorry.
Anyhow, yes, this has been an issue in New Hampshire for a long time.
It's just that, you know, as a guy, when talking to a woman, all of a sudden, Ralph Neuter, your ears perk up on that, Tracy.
Hey, folks, you know what the greatest new environmental threat is?
Christmas gift wrapping paper.
Kid you're not.
We'll have details in the upcoming morning update as well as tomorrow's program when we get back and start all over again, fully revved up, ready to go, ready to deal with whatever happens between now and then.
Look forward to it.
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