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Nov. 8, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 8, 2007, Thursday, Hour #2
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Greetings to you, music lovers, thrill seekers, conversationalists all across the fruited plane.
I am your highly trained broadcast specialist making it look easy from here behind the golden EIB microphone at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
It is a thrill.
And it is a delight to be with you today.
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$20 ticket.
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How many of you uh how many of you parents out there stick with me on this?
How many of you parents out there have little boys that are saying seven, six, five, and four?
I know a lot of you do.
How many of you have gone out and bought little play kitchens for them to play in?
William Batson.
This is an associated press story written and it's a chicken news story written by Melissa Dutton.
William Batson knows firsthand when friends visit, they're likely to gather in the kitchen.
The six-year-old regularly invites guests into his play kitchen to prepare pretend meals, to wash dishes and to stove food in the refrigerator.
We are raising the next generation of girly men.
In the kitchen now.
The stove talks, says Little William, who lives in Phoenix.
Mary Batson bought her son a kitchen set before he could walk.
She thought it was a great toy, although her husband, Alan had doubts, but as the husband, what could he do?
The wife said he rolled his eyes.
What are you thinking?
Look at all the male chefs, she said to him.
These days, both Batsons are fine with William spending time in a play kitchen.
Alan, who enjoys cooking came around quickly after he saw how much fun his son had with the toy.
The idea of boys playing in the kitchen seems more palatable to parents today than in earlier generations, probably because of how they were raised and how they run their household, says Dr. Michael Kaplan, an assistant clinical professor at the Yale Child Study Center in New Haven.
I'm a folks, this bothers me more than a woman in Iowa.
I mean, the woman in Iowa crying because somebody cared about her.
That's standard fare in a political campaign.
But this scares me for America's future.
Men are reshaping and rethinking their roles, said Dr. Michael Kaplan.
Men have nothing to do with it.
Men are...
Yeah.
How old are they boys or girls?
Dawn just told me three three three triplets.
Boys, two years old, bought them a play kitchen.
Three play kitchens, three play kitchens, one for each little boy at age two.
This is far more worrisome, ladies and gentlemen, than a woman in Iowa who is crying.
And for for the for the guy here, the assistant clinical professor at the Yale Child Study Center in New Haven to say men are reshaping and rethinking their roles.
They're doing much more cooking and housework than they ever have.
I've got to be careful here.
This is this this is not men reshaping and rethinking their roles that's being done for them.
Uh with various sorts of pressure being applied.
If the behavioral model that is demanded isn't met, television has contributed to making men more comfortable in the kitchen, too.
Some of these roles have been held by the Food Network, says Robert J. Thompson, director of the Blyer Center for TV and Popular Culture at Syracuse University.
The network has defeminized the kitchen with programs such as Iron Chef, Emerald Live, and the restaurant.
Tom Pritchard, Vice President of Little Tyques.
The Hudson, Ohio based Toy manufacturer says the company doesn't track how many of its kitchens are bought for boys or girls, but employees regularly receive letters from parents who write that their sons love them.
Ooh.
It allows them to emulate what their parents do, is what uh Well, you know, this isn't that is a conundrum.
H. R. just said something to me in the uh in the IFB.
And my dad always said this.
He said men are better cooks than women.
That's why you don't find at the finest five-star restaurants around the world female head chefs.
They're all men.
And we well, I don't know about cleaning better than women do, but uh, but men do cook better.
Uh in the kit my dad had a theory behind why.
It wasn't anything to do with with gender.
It was that women, they're always scrimping on this ingredient.
Or that especially stuff that tastes good, like butter and oily fats and so forth.
And uh he said most men will go in the kitchen, just throw up everything in there.
If it requires a quarter of a stick of butter, throw the whole thing in there.
Add a couple, they'll start experimenting around a hell with a recipe.
Just throw stuff in there you like until you get it right, eat it.
Without any fear of what the ingredients are and this sort of thing.
That was that was his theory.
Um anyway, Jason Washaleski figures his efforts in the kitchen have spurred his son's interest in cooking.
The suburban Milwaukee father of two regularly prepares dinner because his wife Dawn works second shift.
The children, three-year-old Eli, 18-month-old Jack, love pretend cooking so much the Washaleskies are giving them a kitchen set for Christmas.
Washileschi's 30.
Says he's not concerned some people might associate the toy more with girls than boys.
That doesn't even cross my mind, he said.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Because it even crosses my no.
Joseph Pillar of Northville, Michigan.
Why did who who you know these news stories just don't pop up?
Who somebody had to give this this info, babe, the heads up to do this story?
And I don't know how many uh young boys are using kitchen sets out there.
Maybe it's not as in this story, must have it look like it.
Gobs and oodles of them out there doing this.
Joseph Pillar.
Northville, Michigan has a similar philosophy about kids and toys.
You present them with a lot of different options to see what sticks.
His six-year-old son Joey plays with his sister's toy kitchen and enjoys watching Top Chef, a reality cooking show on Bravo.
We don't have a problem with it.
We encourage it.
When children are discouraged from playing with certain toys, it can lead to self-esteem problems, says the Yale Shrink.
Makes them doubt themselves.
He encourages parents to allow boys and girls to role play and wear dress-up clothes.
The way children view these things is way different than the way adults do.
Well, why stop at the toy kitchens here, folks?
Start well, we we tried giving them Barbie dolls way back when.
I've I actually know a couple couples.
Way back when the feminizes had everybody believing that girls grew up to be women in behavioral trade only because they were raised that way.
They were conditioned.
And boys ditto.
So they painted the little boys' room pink, the little girl's room blue.
They gave the little boy uh Barbie, they get a little girl G.I. Joe, and uh the little girl started getting new outfits for G.I. Joe, the little boy started having war games with Barbie dolls and so forth, and these parents were stunned.
Um I guess next is hair styling sets.
Uh we leave the kitchen and go down to the hair styling salon.
I mean, that's uh probably coming uh serving humanity, my friend, simply by showing up here on the EIB network to the phones to Fort Wayne, Indiana.
This is Steve.
Nice to have you on the program, sir.
Mega dittoes, Rush.
Absolutely love you.
Thank you.
I'm a stay at home dad.
I run a small business out of my count out of my home.
And uh my boys, uh, I've got two boys who are uh great cooks.
They I now I haven't bought them a uh kitchen set, and it's not on my short list on toys to buy.
But they mean to make a mean batch of cookies and uh and uh but they're in wrestling and they uh uh they'll kick somebody's tail with a sword, whether we're playing swords with them.
Um and I wouldn't have a problem with them uh cooking at all.
That's not uh I cook every meal in our house.
How old did you say that uh these uh your two boys are?
My boys are eight and five.
Eight and five, and they bake cookies.
They do.
They wear a couple of things.
Well, you know, see now this this makes sense.
Now wait a minute.
This this makes sense.
Your boys are actually in a real kitchen baking cookies.
Absolutely.
They're probably very smart because if we're waiting on you or your mother to bake them the cookies, you wouldn't do it as often as they will.
So they're getting the cookies they want to either learning to do it.
They're not playing around with some toy with make believe cookies and make believe teacups and make believe this and that.
That's right.
They don't do that.
Well, good.
I mean, I have no problem with this.
One of my boys brought home a cabbage patch doll from a box uh one of their uh aunt's house, and my my mother in law asked me, Are you worried about him playing with that toy playing with that doll?
And about that time, my youngest boy launched it off the porch and and made she's been shot and threw it off the porch into the street, and I said, No, I ain't problem with it at all.
So they were there playing violent games with a doll, you know, they were playing being boys.
So they yeah, that's and I haven't found a lot of things.
I'll tell you what I I tell you what I hope's happening.
I hope with these guys, these little kids, these six and five year olds that are in the play kitchen out there, I hope they're having food fights.
Hope they're baking his pretend cookies and throwing them at each other and so forth.
I hope they're doing that.
Um what some enterprising young kid what he ought to do is, you know, get a pretend McDonald's so we can start making pretend money.
Anyway, Brian uh in Savannah, Georgia, you're next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, thanks for taking my calls.
That's a real privilege.
I really appreciate it.
I've been listening to you for a long, long time.
Uh oh, uh oh, when somebody says that to me, I know what's following.
I'll stop.
Hey, um, this I I wasn't raised with a pretend kitchen, but I did cook with my mother in the kitchen, and she used to take me shopping, and we'd we'd shop at the grocery store.
We'd buy stuff for the house and and I grew up like that.
And I didn't end up some, you know, strange freak kind of.
Well, wait a second.
I I'm that's not that's not what I'm saying.
The real kitchen's a different thing.
Hell, I did too.
You know, what as soon as I learned what the smell of bacon was, I learned how to make it.
Same thing with popcorn, but I did the real thing.
Little kitchen toys.
I There is a reason, I guess, that I never became a parent.
I say I no, didn't wear an apron.
Didn't I put a I put a the splatter thing on top of the skillet so the grease would not fly up.
I knew how to do it.
Or an apron.
Houston, Texas.
Hugh, you're next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Thank you.
Rush, it's so good to speak to you.
You just have no idea.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate that.
You will never have the pleasure of speaking to somebody like you because you're the only one.
Uh that's right.
I can't dispute that.
I called to say that the reason that Hillary didn't tip the waitress was because she hates waiters and waitresses.
All Democrats hate waiters and waitresses because they are compensated based solely on how good a job that they do.
Well, that's a bit of a stretch.
I think a bit of a j but I know what you're saying.
They hate capitalism.
They hate people who are profit participants.
Uh and they because they want people to be dependent.
I think in this case, I think it's just Mrs. Clinton who's uh uh uh these are little people.
They can't do anything for her.
It it doesn't it didn't occur to her.
And there's a pattern.
This is not just the first time.
This has happened one more other time that we know about in uh in upstate New York.
Uh you know, it's it's this is the kind of thing had had the question about the New York driver's licenses not come up and had Clinton not gone out in a war path and accused everybody of swip boating his wife and so forth, this story wouldn't have made it out of Iowa, uh much beyond Iowa at all.
Uh but this is there's a there's sort of a I don't know if it's a snowball yet.
But there clearly is a pattern developing here of negative news being reported about Mrs. Clinton.
Now it could all be part of a plan to get the negative coverage out of the way now.
I have no doubts that the drive by is are not going to abandon her.
That's that's not what I'm saying.
By the way, speaking of Mrs. Clinton, I do have a Mrs. Clinton stack here today.
USA Today.
More than eight in ten Republicans, and more than half the married men in a new USA Today Gallup poll said they definitely wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton for president.
The uh the poll provides an early snapshot of who's ruling out Clinton, John Edwards, and Barack Obama, the three leading candidates for the nomination.
Now Clinton is atop most of the national polls for Democrats, strongest within her party.
Only 10% of Democrats said they'd rule her out.
Nearly three times as many said they would not vote for Edwards.
Some Democrats wonder, though, whether she's potentially unelectable or a drag on candidates lower on a ballot.
Arrivals such as Edwards say that they're better bets.
In a general election, the poll suggests that Clinton has the least potential for winning votes from Republicans.
Eighty-four percent said they definitely would not vote for her compared with six and ten for either Obama or Edwards.
The uh the poll found that thirty-six percent of women would not vote for Clinton compared with fifty percent of men and fifty-five percent of married men.
This is not surprising to me at all.
Because I have I I I've I observed way long time ago that uh Mrs. Clinton reminds a lot of guys of their first wife, maybe their first and second wives, and they wouldn't vote for their first or second wives for president, and they're not gonna vote for Hillary.
Now, the uh the headline, and I guess the the thing that the USA Today reporterette here, Jill Lawrence, is focusing on, is Clinton lags in the quest for male voters.
And there's a there's a reason uh for that.
Uh and in fact, rather than just tell you what I said, let's go back and listen to what I said October 4th of uh of this year is his audio soundbite number 10, saying this to the broadcast engineer.
Uh, this is from my own show.
That means it was me speaking.
The conventional wisdom is we hear about the gender gap, how Republicans can't get the female vote.
And I have pointed out for years that the dirty little secret of presidential politics is the white male vote.
The Reagan Democrats, these are these are white Southerners, and they lost them, and they've been impugning them ever since, making fun of their religious beliefs, making fun of the fact that like NASCAR, making fun of the fact that they got gun racks in the back of pickup trucks, that they hang around at beer taverns in Tennessee at midnight on Friday night and laugh at Barack Obama commercials or Harold Ford commercials.
They've lost them.
They've been desperately trying to get them back in their weird way.
The bottom line here is that if you do not get the male vote, you don't win the presidency, folks.
All this talk about the gender gap, you go back and be too women vote.
The Clintons are going after the single, is it single unmarried women this year?
I forget what group they're always going after some new group of women, soccer moms, you name it.
You don't get the majority of men, you don't win the presidency.
It's just that simple.
And I'm not this is not a uh sexist or gender-oriented statement.
I'm just this is giving you the data from election returns.
Let's skip number eleven and let's go to um.
Yeah, this is uh this is Anderson Cooper 180 last night on CNN.
He was talking with uh the reporter at Gloria Borger.
And Cooper said uh it's an unreal soundbite here.
He said, doesn't it talk about the Clintons?
Doesn't it doesn't it so raise the issue of two for one again?
Are you are you getting Bill and Hillary?
What exactly is how are they going to rule?
Anderson Cooper's question to Gloria Borger.
How are the Clintons going to rule?
Is this really some sort of partnership?
I think it does raise the issue, and I think in the Democratic primary contest, it's a good thing to get two for one.
In a general election, uh, not so much.
How are the Clintons going to rule?
I guess there's no problem with the Clintons ruling.
By the way, remember the hippie museum, the Woodstock Museum that was uh had an earmark in it.
Schumer and Clinton put this earmark in there, and they and they stripped the earmark out.
Uh this is from the Hill headline, door left open for New York Hippie Museum Cash.
Funding for a controversial hippie museum, co-sponsored by Hillary Clinton, may still find a lifeline, even though its earmark was stricken from a Senate appropriations bill earlier this year.
A conference report of two combined bills, labor, health and human services and education, uh removed a provision that would have explicitly cut funds for the museum located in Bethel, New York.
The cause was authored by uh earmark foe Tom Coburn of Oklahoma.
Uh so you know what the the they're gonna get it, just like Corzine has told the people of New Jersey, screw you, we're gonna build this stem cell research center.
You didn't understand to vote to hell with it.
Now we're gonna get this hippie museum.
Mrs. Clinton is trying to say she's an agent of change, wants to look forward.
This is the sixties generation trying to capture the co a control.
Okay, folks, I gotta apologize to you.
I have been hoaxed.
This uh paper from these four scientists kind of disappoints me.
It's a hoax.
Um I'm I'm still not quite sure what well I'm quite sure what the hoax is, but I don't know th the place this came from is totally legit.
Uh so that's why I misunderstood it.
Uh but anyway, disregard what I said about it.
It is a it is a hoax that's going around, and Dr. Spencer's comment was that he had never seen somebody go this to this amount of trouble to uh uh commit a hoax.
Uh and I misunderstood it, and I thought global warming is a hoax, and that I had never gone, I've never seen somebody I thought these researchers uh were essentially saying they'd never seen somebody go to such a stretch to create a hoax.
Anyway, it is a hoax.
Uh these this this whole paper, we're not gonna put it on a website because it's a hoax.
And I apologize, I got hoaxed.
I don't normally get hoaxed.
I normally do the hoaxing.
So I guess it's uh it's tit for tat.
Here's here's Kimberly in Sarasota, Florida.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Negadus Rush and the mother of five rash babies.
Thank you.
Thanks very much.
Hey, Russ, with Veterans Day coming up, the day to celebrate and honor the troops that make this country so great.
Um my husband and I were surprised and thrilled when our son came home with a big smile on his face to tell us that we would be honored at a Veterans Day celebration in his elementary school.
But Rush, that surprise turned to shock when he asked us what the word conscientious objector meant, because those are the people his class would be honoring.
You gotta be kidding.
When it no, they're gonna do this on Monday, right?
Because Veterans Day is actually uh actually Sunday.
They're actually gonna do it on Friday.
They're gonna do it tomorrow.
So in your son's class, they're gonna honor conscientious objectors.
Yes, sir.
Um my son will not be among them because my husband and I have made the decision to pull him out of that class for the day and put him in a more patriotic class.
Um, but when we discussed this with the front office, the principal gave us word that she couldn't tell the teacher what to teach.
Uh that's not true.
That's gutless.
That is absolutely gutless.
You don't have a leader in your principal.
What's up, tell us do me tell me tell tell us the name of this school.
It's called Bayhaven Elementary.
Uh didn't he Bell Haven?
Bayhaven.
Bay Haven El Elementary.
Yes, sir.
Bay Haven Elementary.
Yes, sir.
And he's in the fourth grade.
Fourth grade honoring conscientious objectors in uh Sarasota, Florida, is it?
Yes, sir.
Sarasota, Florida, the uh Bay Haven Elementary School honoring conscientious in what class?
This is well, he's in fourth grade, so it's uh it's a contained classroom.
Um one subject one hour, another subject the next hour.
Right.
Are you just gonna pull your son out of the Bay Haven elementary school in Sarasota, or are you just gonna have him go to a different class?
We're going to have him go to a different class for that day.
Um can you do that?
I didn't know that the Bay Haven elementary school in Sarasota, Florida, would allow you to just take your kid out of a class one day and put it in another class just for the day.
Well, my husband and I are both veterans.
We Come from a long line of veterans and um our children are very patriotic and love this country and the freedom that they have.
Well, I understand that.
But how if the principal at uh Bay Haven Elementary in Sarasota, Florida, will not uh intercede in what the teacher's teaching, then how come the principal at Bay Haven Elementary in Sarasota will allow you to take your kid out of that class and put it in another four-year class, fourth grade class just for the day.
Well, I suppose because we asked for it to be done.
I I don't know.
I don't know, Rush.
We just uh Well, that's a hopeful sign.
I mean, uh the the principal will not at Bay Haven Elementary Sarasota will not uh intercede in what the teacher's teaching.
I mean, that you realize the power if the teacher could teach anything, and the principal won't stop it, yet I understand the principal will let you take the student out of there.
This isn't a hoax, is it by the way?
You're you're you're telling us the truth.
No, sir, I'm telling you the truth.
The children have made stars and banners and all kinds of neat things.
They have a band coming for the veterans, and his class is making a banner of conscientious objectors.
Okay.
I guess they think conscientious objectors were part of the veteran how they can't even they were the consciousness objectors didn't even become part of the military.
I understand that, Rush.
You sure you're not hoaxing me.
I'm gonna have hoax paranoia now for a little while.
You're sure you're not hoaxing me on this.
Rush, I promise you.
I'm your favorite letter carrier from Sarasota, Florida, and I would never so you swear on your word of honor.
Yes, sir, I do.
That this is not a parody and not a hoax.
Yes, sir, I do.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
I feel for you.
I I uh Well, this would infuriate me.
That's why teaching your children at home is so important.
It is.
Kimberly, thanks very much for the You better.
We'll take a quick time out here to be back after the by the way, these next commercials are not hoaxes.
HR, is that true or are you hoaxing me?
Bayside Elementary in Sarasota, Florida.
Bay Haven.
Bay Haven.
Gosh, I hope there's not a base hit.
Bay Haven Elementary School.
Motto is a bright spot by the bay.
Uh H.R. went to the website, a bright spot by the uh by the bay.
All right, uh Matt in Redlands, California.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to our program.
Thanks, Rush.
Rush, I'm a conservative, and I want a Republican to be elected president in 2008.
So I think you shouldn't be attacking Hillary Clinton quite so much because if you continue to do this, she'll probably end up losing the Democratic nomination for president.
Then the Democrats will be able to run a more electable candidate for president like Edwards or Obama.
And that's bad news for Republicans.
So please, Rush, please lay off Hillary a little bit.
A lot of you might think he's joking, but uh my friends, I have been thinking this, especially with the latest poll numbers about how the just 55% of married men are not going to vote for Hillary, fifty percent of all men are not going to vote for Hillary.
Uh eighty-four percent of Republicans is no way.
She's got such high negatives that she does seem to be the ideal nominee for the Democrats to have.
But really, is it is it uh is it accurate to say, Matt, that I, L. Rushbow could derail the candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton with the Clinton war room and Clinton Inc.
behind it?
Rush, you already have with the driver's license for illegals.
That was what brought this whole snowball about.
You're the one, Rush.
Uh didn't I didn't do that.
I mean, I I mean I brought brought for may have forced the question at the debate.
Exactly.
But but she's the one that botched it.
You're blaming me.
Uh well, you helped, Rush.
You were the main cause, Rush.
Well just lay off a little bit until she gets the nomination.
Well, it might help to lay off a little bit because I won't get into many blue funks.
Uh what else?
Um I did endorse Howard Dean.
I didn't see this.
See, I did endorse Howard Dean, and look what happened to him.
Uh I also endorsed Clinton and uh in 92 and took it back.
That was that was one of the most Yeah, it was one of the most fun.
It was a hoax.
It was.
It was it was a hoax.
I hoaxed everybody.
I pulled it off for an hour and fifteen minutes, endorsing Clinton in nineteen ninety-two.
Uh we'll have to put that on the twentieth anniversary best of highlight reel.
A quick timeout here, folks.
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