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Nov. 8, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 8, 2007, Thursday, Hour #2
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Greetings to you music lovers, thrill seekers, conversationalists all across the fruited plane.
I am your highly trained broadcast specialist, making it look easy from here behind the golden EIB microphone at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
It is a thrill, and it is a delight to be with you today.
Telephone number 800-282-2882 and the email address rush at EIBnet.com.
Iowans who support former Vice President Al Gore have been forced to cancel a concert in his honor.
$20 ticket.
Run Al Run is the event that the tickets are to be sold for.
Was scheduled for Sunday at Des Moines.
It was called off because organizers feared they would not sell enough tickets.
How many of you parents out there, stick with me on this?
How many of you parents out there have little boys that are, say, seven, six, five, and four?
I know a lot of you do.
How many of you have gone out and bought little play kitchens for them to play in?
William Batson.
This is an Associated Press story written, and it's a chick-ified news story written by Melissa Dutton.
William Batson knows firsthand when friends visit, they're likely to gather in the kitchen.
The six-year-old regularly invites guests into his play kitchen to prepare pretend meals, to wash dishes, and to stove food in the refrigerator.
We are raising the next generation of girly men in the kitchen now.
The stove talks, says little William, who lives in Phoenix.
Mary Batson bought her son a kitchen set before he could walk.
She thought it was a great toy, although her husband, Alan, had doubts.
But as the husband, what could he do?
The wife said he rolled his eyes.
What are you thinking?
Look at all the male chefs, she said to him.
These days, both Batsons are fine with William spending time in a play kitchen.
Alan, who enjoys cooking, came around quickly after he saw how much fun his son had with the toy.
The idea of boys playing in the kitchen seems more palatable to parents today than in earlier generations, probably because of how they were raised and how they run their households, says Dr. Michael Kaplan, an assistant clinical professor at the Yale Child Study Center in New Haven.
Folks, this bothers me more than the woman in Iowa.
I mean, the woman in Iowa crying because somebody cared about her.
That's standard fare in a political campaign.
But this, this scares me for America's future.
Men are reshaping and rethinking their roles, said Dr. Michael Kaplan.
Men have nothing to do with it.
How old are they?
Boys or girls?
Dawn just told me three triplets.
Boys, two years old, bought them a play kitchen.
Three play kitchens, three play kitchens, one for each little boy at age two.
This is far more worrisome, ladies and gentlemen, than a woman in Iowa who is crying.
And for the guy here, the assistant clinical professor at the Yale Child Study Center in New Haven to say men are reshaping and rethinking their roles.
They're doing much more cooking and housework than they ever have.
I've got to be careful here.
This is not men reshaping and rethinking their roles.
That's being done for them with various sorts of pressure being applied if the behavioral model that is demanded isn't met.
Television has contributed to making men more comfortable in the kitchen too.
Some of these roles have been held by the food network, says Robert J. Thompson, director of the Blyer Center for TV and Popular Culture at Syracuse University.
The network has defeminized the kitchen with programs such as Iron Chef, Emerald Live, and The Restaurant.
Tom Pritchard, vice president of Little Tykes, the Hudson, Ohio-based toy manufacturer, says the company doesn't track how many of its kitchens are bought for boys or girls, but employees regularly receive letters from parents who write that their sons love them.
Ooh.
It allows them to emulate what their parents do is what.
Well, you know, that is a conundrum.
H.R. just said something to me in the IFP.
My dad always said this.
He said men are better cooks than women.
That's why you don't find at the finest five-star restaurants around the world female head chefs.
They're all men.
And we said, well, I don't know about cleaning better than women do, but men do cook better.
My dad had a theory behind why.
It wasn't anything to do with gender.
It was that women, they're always scrimping on this ingredient or that, especially stuff that tastes good, like butter and oily fats and so forth.
And he said most men will go in the kitchen, just drop everything in there.
If it requires a quarter of a stick of butter, throw the whole thing in there.
Add a couple.
They'll start experimenting around a hell with a recipe.
Just throw stuff in there you like until you get it right, eat it.
Without any fear of what the ingredients are and this sort of thing.
That was his theory.
Anyway, Jason Waschalewski figures his efforts in the kitchen have spurred his son's interest in cooking.
The suburban Milwaukee father of two regularly prepares dinner because his wife, Dawn, works second shift.
The children, three-year-old Eli, 18-month-old Jack, love pretend cooking so much, the Waschaleskis are giving them a kitchen set for Christmas.
Waschalewski's 30, says he's not concerned some people might associate the toy more with girls than boys.
That doesn't even cross my mind.
He said, that's the problem.
That's the problem.
Because it even crosses mine.
No.
Joseph Pillera of Northville, Michigan.
You know, these news stories just don't pop up.
Who, somebody had to give this infobabe the heads up to do this story.
And I don't know how many young boys are using kitchen sets out there.
Maybe it's not as this story must have made it look like it's gobs and oodles of them out there doing this.
Joseph Pillera.
Northville, Michigan has a similar philosophy about kids and toys.
You present them with a lot of different options to see what sticks.
His six-year-old son, Joey, plays with his sister's toy kitchen and enjoys watching Top Chef, a reality cooking show on Bravo.
We don't have a problem with it.
We encourage it.
When children are discouraged from playing with certain toys, it can lead to self-esteem problems, says the Yale shrink, makes them doubt themselves.
He encourages parents to allow boys and girls to role play and wear dress-up clothes.
The way children view these things is way different than the way adults do.
Well, why stop at the toy kitchens here, folks?
Starting to be, well, we tried giving them Barbie dolls way back when.
I actually know a couple couples.
Way back when the feminazis had everybody believing that girls grew up to be women in behavioral trade only because they were raised that way.
They were conditioned and boys ditto.
So they painted the little boy's room pink, the little girl's room blue.
They gave the little boy Barbie.
They got a little girl, G.I. Joe, and the little girl started getting new outfits for G.I. Joe.
Little boy started having war games with Barbie dolls and so forth.
And these parents were stunned.
I guess next is hairstyling sets.
We leave the kitchen and go down to the hairstyling salon.
I mean, that's probably coming serving humanity, my friends, simply by showing up here on the EIB Network to the phones to Fort Wayne, Indiana.
This is Steve.
Nice to have you on the program, sir.
Mega Dittos, Rush.
Absolutely love you.
Thank you.
I'm a stay-at-home dad.
I run a small business out of my home.
And my boys, I've got two boys who are great cooks.
Now, I haven't bought them a kitchen set, and it's not on my short list on Toys to Buy, but they mean to make a mean batch of cookies, but they're in wrestling, and they'll kick somebody's tail with a sword, playing swords with them.
And I wouldn't have a problem with them cooking at all.
I cook every meal in our house.
How old did you say that your two boys are?
My boys are eight and five.
Eight and five, and they bake cookies.
They do.
See, now this makes sense.
Now, wait a minute.
This makes sense.
Your boys are actually in a real kitchen baking cookies.
Absolutely.
They're probably very smart because if they're waiting on you or your mother to bake them the cookies, you wouldn't do it as often as they will.
So they're getting the cookies they want.
They're learning to do it.
They're not playing around with some toy with make-believe cookies and make-believe teacups and make-believe this and that.
That's right.
They don't do that.
Well, good.
I mean, I have no problem with this.
One of my boys brought home a cabbage patch doll from a box at one of their aunt's house.
And my mother-in-law asked me, Are you worried about him playing with that doll?
And about that time, my youngest boy launched it off the porch and made, she's been shot and threw it off the porch into the street.
And I said, no, I ain't a problem with it at all.
So they were playing violent games with a doll.
You know, they were being boys.
So they, yeah, that's, and I haven't found a lot of stuff.
I'll tell you what I hope's happening.
I hope with these guys, these little kids, these six and five-year-olds in the play kitchen out there, I hope they're having food fights.
Hope they're baking these pretend cookies and throwing them at each other and so forth.
I hope they're doing that.
Some enterprising young kid, what he ought to do is, you know, get a pretend McDonald's so he can start making pretend money.
Anyway, Brian in Savannah, Georgia, you're next on the EIB Network, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, thanks for taking my call.
It's a real privilege.
I really appreciate it.
I've been listening to you for a long, long time.
Uh-oh, when somebody says that to me, I know what's following.
I'll stop.
Hey, I wasn't raised with a pretend kitchen, but I did cook with my mother in the kitchen.
And she used to take me shopping.
And we'd shop at the grocery store.
We'd buy stuff for the house.
And I grew up like that.
And I didn't end up some strange freak kind of.
Wait a second.
That's not what I'm saying.
The real kitchen's a different thing.
Hell, I did too.
You know, as soon as I learned what the smell of bacon was, I learned how to make it.
Same thing with popcorn.
But I did the real thing.
Little kitchen toys.
There is a reason, I guess, that I never became a parent.
I say, no, I didn't wear an apron.
I put a splatter thing on top of the skillet so the grease would not fly up.
I knew how to do it.
Wear an apron.
Houston, Texas.
Hugh, you're next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Thank you.
Rush, it's so good to speak to you.
You just have no idea.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate that.
You will never have the pleasure of speaking to somebody like you because you're the only one.
That's right.
I can't dispute that.
I called to say that the reason that Hillary didn't tip the waitress was because she hates waiters and waitresses.
All Democrats hate waiters and waitresses because they are compensated based solely on how good a job that they do.
Well, that's a bit of a stretch.
I know what you're saying.
They hate capitalism.
They hate people who are profit participants because they want people to be dependent.
I think in this case, I think it's just Mrs. Clinton who's got an attitude.
These are little people that they can't do anything for her.
It didn't occur to her.
And there's a pattern.
This is not just the first time.
This has happened one more other time that we know about in upstate New York.
You know, this is the kind of thing, had the question about the New York driver's licenses not come up, and had Clinton not gone out in a war path and accused everybody of sweatboating his wife and so forth, this story wouldn't have made it out of Iowa, much beyond Iowa at all.
But there's sort of a, I don't know if it's a snowball yet, but there clearly is a pattern developing here of negative news being reported about Mrs. Clinton.
Now, it could all be part of a plan to get the negative coverage out of the way now.
I have no doubt that the drive-bys are not going to abandon her.
That's not what I'm saying.
By the way, speaking of Mrs. Clinton, I do have a Mrs. Clinton stack here today.
USA Today, more than eight in 10 Republicans and more than half the married men in a new USA Today Gallup poll said they definitely wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton for president.
The poll provides an early snapshot of who's ruling out Clinton, John Edwards, and Barack Obama, the three leading candidates for the nomination.
Now, Clinton is atop most of the national polls for Democrats, strongest within her party.
Only 10% of Democrats said they'd rule her out.
Nearly three times as many said they would not vote for Edwards.
Some Democrats wonder, though, whether she's potentially unelectable or a drag on candidates lower on the ballot.
Rivals such as Edwards say that they're better bets.
In a general election, the poll suggests that Clinton has the least potential for winning votes from Republicans.
84% said they definitely would not vote for her compared with 6 in 10 for either Obama or Edwards.
The poll found that 36% of women would not vote for Clinton compared with 50% of men and 55% of married men.
This is not surprising to me at all because I observed way long time ago that Mrs. Clinton reminds a lot of guys of their first wife, maybe their first and second wives.
And they wouldn't vote for their first or second wives for president, and they're not going to vote for Hillary.
Now, the headline, and I guess the thing that the USA Today reporter here, Jill Lawrence, is focusing on is Clinton lags in the quest for male voters.
And there's a reason for that.
And in fact, rather than just tell you what I said, let's go back and listen to what I said October 4th of this year.
This is audio soundbite number 10.
I'm saying this to the broadcast engineer.
This is from my own show.
That means it was me speaking.
The conventional wisdom is we hear about the gender gap, how Republicans can't get the female vote.
And I have pointed out for years that the dirty little secret of presidential politics is the white male vote.
The Reagan Democrats, these are white Southerners, and they lost them, and they've been impugning them ever since, making fun of their religious beliefs, making fun of the fact that they're like NASCAR, making fun of the fact that they got gun racks in the back of pickup trucks, that they hang around at beer taverns in Tennessee at midnight on Friday night and laugh at Barack Obama commercials or Harold Ford commercials.
They've lost them.
They've been desperately trying to get them back in their weird way.
And the bottom line here is that if you do not get the male vote, you don't win the presidency, folks.
All this talk about the gender gap, you go back and be doing it.
You got to get the women vote.
The Clintons are going after the single, is it single unmarried women this year?
I forget what group.
They're always going after some new group of women, soccer moms, you name it.
If you don't get the majority of men, you don't win the presidency.
It's just that simple.
And this is not a sexist or gender-oriented statement.
I'm just giving you the data from election returns.
Let's skip number 11, and let's go to, yeah, this is Anderson Cooper 180 last night on CNN.
He was talking with the reporter at Gloria Borger.
And Cooper said, it's an unreal soundbite here.
He said, doesn't it, they're talking about the Clintons.
Doesn't it so raise the issue of two for one again?
Are you getting Bill and Hillary?
What exactly is, how are they going to rule?
Anderson Cooper's question to Gloria Borger.
How are the Clintons going to rule?
Is this really some sort of partnership?
I think it does raise the issue.
And I think in the Democratic primary contest, it's a good thing to get two for one.
In a general election, not so much.
How are the Clintons going to rule?
I guess there's no problem with the Clintons ruling.
By the way, remember the Hippie Museum, the Woodstock Museum that had an earmark in it?
Schumer and Clinton put this earmark in there, and they stripped the earmark out?
This is from The Hill headline, door left open for New York hippie museum cash.
Funding for a controversial hippie museum co-sponsored by Hillary Clinton may still find a lifeline, even though its earmark was stricken from a Senate appropriations bill earlier this year.
A conference report of two combined bills, Labor, Health, and Human Services and Education, removed a provision that would have explicitly cut funds for the museum located in Bethel, New York.
The clause was authored by earmark foe Tom Coburn of Oklahoma.
So, you know what, they're going to get it, just like Corzine has told the people of New Jersey, screw you, we're going to build this stem cell research center.
You didn't understand a vote to hell with it.
Now we're going to get this hippie museum.
Mrs. Clinton is trying to say she's an agent of change, wants to look forward.
This is the 60s generation trying to capture the control.
Okay, folks, I got to apologize to you.
I have been hoaxed.
This paper from these four scientists kind of disappoints me.
It's a hoax.
I'm still not quite sure what, well, I'm quite sure what the hoax is, but I don't know the place this came from is totally legit.
So that's why I misunderstood it.
But anyway, disregard what I said about it.
It is a hoax that's going around.
And Dr. Spencer's comment was that he had never seen somebody go to this amount of trouble to commit a hoax.
And I misunderstood it, and I thought global warming is a hoax, and that I had never gone, I've never seen somebody, I thought these researchers were essentially saying they'd never seen somebody go to such a stretch to create a hoax.
Anyway, it is a hoax.
This whole paper, we're not going to put it on a website because it's a hoax.
And I apologize.
I got hoaxed.
I don't normally get hoaxed.
I normally do the hoaxing.
So I guess it's tit for tat.
Here's Kimberly in Sarasota, Florida.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello.
Neckadittos Rush and the mother of five Rush babies.
Thank you.
Thanks very much.
Hey, Rush, with Veterans Day coming up, the day to celebrate and honor the troops that make this country so great.
My husband and I were surprised and thrilled when our son came home with a big smile on his face to tell us that we would be honored at a Veterans Day celebration in his elementary school.
But, Rush, that surprise turned to shock when he asked us what the word conscientious objector meant because those were the people his class would be honoring.
You've got to be kidding.
They're going to do this on Monday, right?
Because Veterans Day is actually Sunday.
They're actually going to do it on Friday.
They're going to do it tomorrow.
So in your son's class, they're going to honor conscientious objectors.
Yes, sir.
My son will not be among them because my husband and I have made the decision to pull him out of that class for the day and put him in a more patriotic class.
But when we discussed this with the front office, the principal gave us word that she couldn't tell the teacher what to teach.
That's not true.
That's gutless.
That is absolutely gutless.
You don't have a leader in your principal.
Tell us the name of this school.
It's called Bayhaven Elementary.
Bellhaven?
Bayhaven.
Bayhaven Elementary.
Yes, sir.
Bayhaven Elementary.
Yes, sir.
And he's in the fourth grade.
Fourth grade honoring conscientious objectors in Sarasota, Florida, is it?
Yes, sir.
Sarasota, Florida, the Bayhaven Elementary School honoring conscientious.
In what class?
Well, he's in fourth grade, so it's a contained classroom.
Okay, so yeah, it's one subject one hour, another subject the next hour.
Right.
Are you just going to pull your son out of the Bayhaven Elementary School in Sarasota, or are you just going to have him go to a different class?
We're going to have him go to a different class for that day.
How can you do that?
I didn't know that the Bayhaven Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida would allow you to just take your kid out of a class one day and put it in another class just for the day.
Well, my husband and I are both veterans.
We come from a long line of veterans, and our children are very patriotic and love this country and the freedom that they have.
Now, I understand that.
But if the principal at Bayhaven Elementary in Sarasota, Florida will not intercede in what the teacher's teaching, then how come the principal at Bayhaven Elementary in Sarasota will allow you to take your kid out of that class and put it in another four-year class, fourth-grade class, just for the day?
Well, I suppose because we asked for it to be done, I don't know.
I don't know, Rush.
Well, that's a hopeful sign.
I mean, the principal will not, at Bayhaven Elementary, Sarasota will not intercede in what the teacher's teaching.
I mean, do you realize the power?
If the teacher could teach anything, the principal won't stop it.
Yet the principal will let you take the student out of there.
This isn't a hoax, is it, by the way?
You're telling us the truth.
No, sir.
I'm telling you the truth.
The children have made stars and banners and all kinds of neat things.
They have a band coming for the veterans, and his class is making a banner of conscientious objectors.
Okay.
I guess they think conscientious objectors were part of the veteran.
They can't even.
The conscientious objectors didn't even become part of the military.
I understand that, Rush.
You sure you're not hoaxing me?
I'm going to have hoax paranoia now for a little while.
You're sure you're not hoaxing me on this.
Rush, I promise you.
I'm your favorite letter carrier from Sarasota, Florida, and I would never.
So you swear on your word of honor.
Yes, sir, I do.
That this is not a parody and not a hoax.
Yes, sir, I do.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
I feel for you.
Wow, this would infuriate me.
That's why teaching your children at home is so important.
It is.
Kimberly, thanks very much for the new bet.
We'll take a quick time out here.
Be back after the, by the way, these next commercials are not hoaxes.
H.R., is that true or are you hoaxing me?
Bayside Elementary in Sarasota, Florida.
Bayhaven.
Bayhaven.
Gosh, I hope there's not a Bayside.
Bayhaven Elementary School motto is a bright spot by the Bay.
HR went to the website, a bright spot by the Bay.
All right, Matt in Redlands, California.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to our program.
Thanks, Rush.
Rush, I'm a conservative, and I want a Republican to be elected president in 2008.
So I think you shouldn't be attacking Hillary Clinton quite so much, because if you continue to do this, she'll probably end up losing the Democratic nomination for president.
Then the Democrats will be able to run a more electable candidate for president like Edwards or Obama.
And that's bad news for Republicans.
So please, Rush, please lay off Hillary Clavens.
A lot of you might think he's joking, but my friends, I have been thinking this, especially with the latest poll numbers about how 55% of married men are not going to vote for Hillary.
50% of all men are not going to vote for Hillary.
84% of Republicans has no way.
She's got such high negatives that she does seem to be the ideal nominee for the Democrats to have.
But really, is it accurate to say, Matt, that I, El Rushbow, could derail the candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton with the Clinton War Room and Clinton Inc. behind it?
Rush, you already have with the driver's license for illegals.
That was what brought this whole snowball about.
You were the one, Rush.
I didn't do that.
I mean, I brought, I force may have forced the question at the debate.
Exactly.
But she's the one that botched it.
You're blaming me.
Well, you helped, Rush.
You were the main cause, Rush.
Well.
Just lay off a little bit until she gets the nomination.
Well, it might help to lay off a little bit because it won't get into many blue funks.
What else?
I did endorse Howard Dean.
I didn't see this.
See?
I did endorse Howard Dean.
And look what happened to him.
I also endorsed Clinton in 92 and took it back.
That was one of the most fun.
It was a hoax.
It was a hoax.
I hoaxed everybody.
I pulled it off for an hour and 15 minutes endorsing Clinton in 1992.
We'll have to put that on the 20th anniversary best of highlight reel.
A quick timeout here, folks.
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