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November 1, 2007, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24-7 podcast.
Okay, gang.
We made it.
We made it.
Another year.
Halloween is over.
That means we've made it through the annual pagan ritual where all the heathens gather in costumes and try to fool the public.
But enough about the democratic debate.
I want to talk about some real issues today.
Hi, everybody.
Well, oh, once again, I should say Jason Lewis here in for El Rushbow.
He's got some personal business to take care of, as Rush puts it, but I am glad to be uh he'll be back, by the way, tomorrow for open line Friday.
So glad to be back in the Attila the Hun chair behind the Golden EIB mic at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Speaking of the Democratic debate, you cannot make this stuff up.
Uh I think Rush touched on this yesterday, but Dennis Kucinich, the day before the debate raises questions about President Bush's mental health.
There's something wrong.
He does not seem to understand his words have real impact.
So says the man from Cleveland.
I think it's Cleveland, isn't it?
Dennis Kucinich.
And the next day in the uh Democratic debate.
UFOs.
Oh, yeah, I see him all the time.
Shirley McLean and I were just talking the other day.
You know, no wonder this guy doesn't care about states' rights or federalism.
If we get this overwielding central government, if we get a world government, he and Shirley have a safety valve.
It's called Mars.
The rest of us have to stay on Earth, which is why devolving power to the states is always smarter.
It's a safety valve for people.
But I'm telling you, it doesn't get any better than this.
I see UFOs, and he's the one with the mental problems.
I folks, I'm confused.
then again, this could be a new strategy.
Because I think it's fair to say that Dennis Kucinich has locked up the Roswell, New Mexico vote.
I think that's a done deal for him.
Right now.
Hey, the number remains the same, even though Jason Lewis from KTLK in for El Rushbo today, 1-800-282-2882.
Everybody's talking about the Hillary Clinton fallout.
I guess the understatement of the year, my friends, would be Hillary's statement in Tuesday night's debate saying, I'm not going to get committed to a specific approach.
Really?
And call sixty minutes.
I think we've got a news flash here.
She didn't get specific on anything.
And I'm telling you, friends, it's getting pretty ugly.
Now you got Hillary campaign operatives suggesting in a in a very vituperative manner that Tim Rusher, Tim Russard, I should say, should be the guy really getting his comeuppants.
He's the guy that that brought down the House on Hillary.
Really?
Hillary couldn't come up with an answer on the driver's licenses for illegals in New York.
Now she had to clarify this yesterday.
You know, on Tuesday night, she said, I just want to add, I did not say that these driver's licenses should be done for illegals in New York, but I certainly recognize why Governor Spitzer is trying to do it.
Wait a narrow it right down there for us, Hillary.
And of course, the Dodd is the only guy that went after well, they all went after.
You gotta remember, though, you know, Barack was saying, how dare you, how dare you uh not come out with a specific answer.
How dare you be so ambivalent about this?
I'm for driver's licenses for illegal.
This is bizarre.
This is absolutely bizarre.
Only the Democrat Party of 2007 could make Hillary look like a centrist.
This is how dangerous it's getting.
Now, yesterday the Clinton campaign came back out and said, Well, no, we actually do support Spitzer, and we do support these driver's licenses for to be politically correct, our undocumented friends.
Uh you know, there is a connecting of the dots here, uh, friends, if you take a look at this.
I mean, remember the up in Minnesota, my stomping grounds, the new Democrat Secretary of State, Mark Richie, immediately proposed upon taking office that anybody that gets a driver's license in the North Star State, Minnesota, automatically is registered to vote.
Automat now, granted, it's easy enough here in Minnesota as it is.
I mean, all you have to do is get somebody to vouch for you, bring a utility bill or some sort of ID.
But this is the connecting of the dots, friends.
This is the de facto amnesty plan that they've been trying to put forth.
Well, they've been trying to put forth the de jure plan, actually make it into a statutory construct.
They failed miserably on that.
Even the Dream Act, you know, in-state tuition for illegal aliens when the your next door neighbor, out of state residents, has to pay double the tuition rate for out of state tuition.
They failed on that.
But this is the plan.
This is the plan to get the illegal immigrants to vote.
To vote.
And if you give them the driver's license and all these other states say, oh, you automatically registered, what's not to like there?
What is not to like?
And so here we go again.
They lost on immigration, but they're trying to bring it back behind the barn, so to speak.
And it's bad enough.
I mean, this voter ID issue is bad enough.
It's been upheld by, you know, Georgia, uh, the Georgia decision was upheld.
It was struck down by a lower court, but finally upheld.
I believe the same thing is true in Indiana, if memory serves me correctly.
I know that one of the federal appellate courts has upheld voter IDs.
And I think this is the thing that's lurking beneath this surface.
Other than the fact that you look, if you grant illegal immigrants, you know, in state tuition, if you grant them a driver's license, uh, you get them public benefits, even though technically they're not supposed to get welfare under welfare reform.
Uh they do get it.
Uh people slip up at the counties who are administering welfare on a routine basis.
And this is a de facto amnesty plan.
I mean, why bother with passing a law when you can do it with all these other measures?
And so they get their driver's license, and you get these these uh secretaries of state, especially of the liberal variety, saying, Well, I think a driver's license automatically registers you.
Don't need to bother with those voter IDs.
We don't want that.
Really?
Well, we absolutely do want that.
We need voter ID for the simple reason of and I I know this is a loaded term, and I know you're not supposed to say this, but it's called dual loyalty.
The idea being that we want to make certain someone goes through all of the hoops for citizenship, somebody assimilates into America, somebody becomes an American where their first allegiance is to this country before we start letting them choose our leaders.
That was the obvious reason for voter ID laws.
It's the obvious reason why so many people are in support of voter ID laws.
As I mentioned, in Minnesota, you can have someone an oath of a registered voter in the precinct merely vouch for you, and you can vote.
Now you can also present a driver's license, and if you get one as an illegal immigrant, why, you know, you're set.
This is a breeder document.
You can get on an airplane, you can vote, you can be a de facto citizen.
And that's look, I I don't let me just clarify my position on this too, because I'm not one of those, I'm not a Malthusian that thinks, gosh, more people coming into the country is a bad idea.
I happen to be a liberal on free trade, liberal liberal free trade agreements are good, the more the merrier.
I'm not a protectionist.
But as Milton Friedman said so wisely before he passed, you cannot combine open borders with the modern welfare state.
And therein lies the problem.
The magnet, the magnet that the Fourteenth Amendment citizenship clause misinterpreted, I believe, has brought forth.
The magnet that education, free education has brought forth thanks to a nineteen eighty-two Supreme Court decision, I believe it was the Plyler decision.
Uh the magnet that Medicaid and all of the rest brings forth, these are not the Ellis Island immigrants.
Uh there is their the Heritage Foundation is gonna has done yeoman's work on this, suggesting that uh illegal immigration costs us far more than the payroll taxes they might pay into Social Security.
You cannot combine this, and that's what's different.
And that's why it's got to be checked at some point.
And if you start granting all of these privileges to an illegal immigrant, you won't need a law.
Uh you will have a de facto citizenship policy in place.
And I do think that's at the root of all of this, certainly at Spitzer's idea.
In fact, the New York High Court not long ago said it's perfectly fine for the the uh state of New York to deny driver's licenses to illegals who can't prove they're in the country legally.
Now there's only an administrative rule right now that prevents this from happening.
Spitzer wanted to do away with that, and that's what Clinton was asked.
Do you support that?
Do you not?
She was uh Senator Hamlet there for a while, couldn't decide, and then yesterday, well, I guess I do support it, and there's going to be an uproar over this, as well there should.
Uh you cannot w we are not assimilating these people as quickly as we need, and certainly when it comes to voting, you need to have people understand our common law legal heritage, capitalism, the virtue of private property, what it means to be an American.
That's what people are concerned about.
If you want to call that cultural, you can.
My concerns aren't nearly as economic as some of the other hawks on the border.
I am a border hawk, but it's not necessarily for economics.
It's more for what is the nation going to look like.
What are we going to look like if we don't assimilate people into this nation that believes, oh gosh, I guess the the Fifth Amendment and the takings clause is pretty important.
Private property is important, not socialism from whence I came.
Oh, what is our Anglo Saxon common law heritage?
Oh, that is important.
Due process, the right to counsel.
I believe in that.
But if you're not if you're not getting that sort of uh inculcation when you go through the citizenship process, then you've got people voting who may be wedded to an old system, maybe wedded to a system that doesn't share our values.
And that's that is why we have a citizenship process.
That's why we have borders.
That's why the Gipper, Ronald Reagan said a nation without borders is no nation at all.
That's why this is important, and that's why Hillary is in a bit of a stew here.
So I do believe this shouldn't go this whole issue should not uh be discussed without remembering that there are a number of um secretaries of state and liberals out there trying to make certain well, a driver's license is all you need.
In fact, Representative Keith Ellison of Minnesota, who's just to the left of Dennis Kucinich, maybe they came down on the Spain same spaceship.
I'm not quite certain, but they uh he authored a bill at the uh federal level, I believe it was yesterday, or was talking about it of banning voter ID laws.
Banning voter ID laws.
Now the Supreme Court's gonna take this up again, and once and for all, we ought to make certain that, gosh, you know, you've got to have a photo ID for so many activities in life.
Uh choosing the elective uh or or engaging in elective franchise, you ought to have a photo photo ID for that too.
I mean, folks, remember, and they always talk about disenfranchisement.
Oh my goodness, Jason.
If if you start putting up these voting barriers to people, you've got to have a photo ID, you've got to prove you're a citizen.
A driver's license for an illegal would do away with much of that, but regardless, why that would disenfranchise people.
Friends, don't be fooled by that.
The only people becoming disenfranchised when voter fraud occurs are the legal voters.
It does us no good to say, same day registration, get somebody to vouch for you.
We've got provisional balloting, you can vote in a number of precincts and we'll decide later which ones count.
You know, vote often, be a good American.
If that occurs and there are no rules, your vote has been disenfranchised and diluted.
That's the issue here.
1800, 282, 2882.
I am Jason Lewis, the man with the widest stance in radio.
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Back right after this with your calls in for rush today on the excellence in broadcasting network.
All right, for all those Dennis Kucinich fans out there, I'll be speaking in uh fork tongue, the rest of the pro no, I just made that.
That is so funny.
Dennis Kucinich and the Republicans have problems.
1800, 282-2882, Jason Lewis back in here for El Rushbow.
He's out today, but back tomorrow for open line Friday, so fear not to the phones we go.
First up in Lake Forest, California, Pauline.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Hey, Jason, Megadettoes.
Same to you, my dear.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, I I watched some of the debate yesterday on the internet, and I then I watched hardball.
And I couldn't understand.
Well, there's two mistakes you've made.
Because I'm confused and he'll figure it out for me.
Right.
They dumped on her.
They just dumped all over her.
I couldn't, they were just it was weird.
Well, they w Tim Russert.
I mean, here was the guys that before I got into journalism like like uh Chris Matthews was a democratic operative.
And now they're going after Hillary in a in a truculent manner.
I mean, it's outrageous.
Well, here they're mad at her because they want her to succeed so badly that they don't want her to flub up.
It still didn't make any sense because they were just so and even all the guests that he had on, they were all Democrats, of course, no Republican.
And they're like saying how she w blew it and it was it's gonna be the end of her career and they went a little hot compared to Fox.
Why do you suppose why do you suppose that is?
Why were they so uh you know vicious with Hillary, do you think?
Well, that's what I couldn't figure out.
I sat there thinking, wait a minute, why are they doing this?
Because they really don't want her to run because she c we can beat her?
Well, maybe they wanted to they want a race.
I mean, she was pulling away in the polls and the media love nothing more than a race.
But I I happen to think that a little bit of this is getting overplayed.
Remember, Hillary, you know, was playing Hamlet on almost every issue.
Social Security tax increases on a payroll tax or increasing the payroll taxes to solve the Social Security problem, as though that would do it.
We've done it a zillion times and it will never solve the problem.
But she was she couldn't decide on that.
She couldn't decide on the driver's license issue.
There were a few other tax issues she wasn't going to commit herself to.
But remember, she's positioning herself to, believe it or not, the right of the rest of the panel.
It was Obama and Edwards who were criticizing Hill.
I mean, Hillary had the audacity to say, well, I'm not going to withdraw all the combat troops from the Middle East from Iraq, perhaps, because we got to have somebody there to fight Al Qaeda, and John Edwards was apoplectic.
Oh, how dare you say that?
We don't need anybody to fight anybody.
Meanwhile, Barack's over there going, driver's licenses for illegals is a good idea.
It's the right thing.
These guys, believe it or not, are to the left of Hillary.
She's already running in the general election.
Now maybe she got ahead of herself, and maybe that's what the critics are, you know, coming down her throat on.
But look, uh, I I don't know that it's going to be the I don't think it's going to be the death of her campaign by any stretch of the imagination.
She's merely positioning herself.
Well, in addition to that, though, Chris Matthews also actually used the word illegal aliens and kept talking about how, well, we're not supposed to use that phrase, and he he actually made her look or presented her to us as a flip-flopper and has no stand on anything, which is what we're going to be doing next year.
Pauline, I gotta let you go, but I'll tell you, if Chris Matthews and Hardball use the term illegal aliens, we call that a slip of the tongue.
Lee and Charlotte, North Carolina, you're next up on EIB with me, Jason Lewis, in for Rush Limbaugh today.
Hi.
Hey, Jason, we miss you so much down here in Carolina when you were WBP, the uh radio waves down here are somewhat of a vast wasteland without you.
Well, thank you very much.
I enjoyed my tenure in the uh Carolinas.
Great spot.
Speaking of handing out driver's licenses without proper identification, is there a state within with a nation's leader, right?
You got it.
Is there a state that knows more about that and knows more about the carnage on the highways and the the magnet for illegals than North Carolina thanks to your governor, Governor Mike Easley, who not only handed them out like candy, but then lied about it in two thousand and four when he was running for re-election.
Amen.
If you have to put in competent in the dictionary, his picture will be there.
Uh, you know.
One thing that you left out when you were talking about the requirements uh for voting was that why don't you have to prove that you're a citizen when you vote?
You know, I go to the polls and and I offer a picture ID and they they freak out because oh my God, you you're not supposed to have to provide that.
Well, ostensibly you are.
No, no, no.
Ostensibly you are, but but the argument is, gosh, and here's what we're going to do to make certain you're a citizen.
Why, you're gonna need the oath of a buddy.
And that's it.
Or you're going to need a utility bill or a student ID.
You know, speaking of that, student ID.
Now they get the Dream Act passed where you have in state, in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, all of a sudden they've got their student ID, and that's good enough to vote.
So it all kind of kind of melds together here to create this this de facto citizenship of what you speak.
But here's the problem.
The civil rights activists in America have gone so far off the deep end with the voting rights act that they think requiring people to get in their car and drive to a polling place is a barrier to voting.
Yes, and I you know, Jason, I think also you you've got to look at it.
The Democrats realize that the people who are gonna vote for them are the people who are gonna get something from the government.
And they're wanting to get as many of those folks on rolls as they can.
And those of us who work for a living and pay the taxes that run this place, um, you know, they don't really care what we think, uh they don't really care what we do.
They just want to uh they want to do anything they can to make negate our votes, and that's what this whole thing does.
Well, of course, and this is I mean, this is the Faustian bargain that so many liberal Republican governors make, and there is a real crisis amongst the Republican governor crowd.
They are a bunch Of rhinos, and they're taking the party down, I'm afraid to say, in many cases.
But this is the Faustian bargain they make.
They think they can be nice to the National Education Association and give more money to the government schools endlessly.
They they think they can do all sorts of things to get more people on children's health insurance and all the rest.
They think they can create more mass transit employees.
I got news for these guys.
As you point out, when you create government employees, they're not likely over the long term to vote Republican.
They're likely to vote for the people that give them the check.
And that's usually a Democrat.
And therein lies the problem with growing government for conservatives and why you've got to scale back government.
It's a novel idea.
We haven't heard much about since Ronald Reagan.
Stay tuned, folks.
We are back.
1-800-282-2882.
I am Jason Lewis from KTLK up in the Twin Cities.
Great to be in the Attila the Hun chair behind the Golden EIB Mike at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, another excursion into broadcast excellence.
Talent on loan today from Rush.
Great to fill in for Rush.
My thanks to everybody involved as always Rush.
We'll be back tomorrow in the meantime talking about Hillary Clinton and her problems with these New York drivers licenses for the undocumented.
That is a euphemism for illegal aliens.
Chris Matthews said illegal aliens.
He's going to need a talking to.
I'm telling you that.
Speaking of uh making this all uh all kind of a de facto amnesty plan.
You've got the DREAM Act, the in-state tuition we talked about.
Now the driver's licenses were going to also include in the S Chip bill, and Mitch McConnell was blasting the uh Democrat leadership.
By the way, when the Democrats do not have any of the appropriation bills that were due on October 1st done on time.
I think this is the longest day in twenty years, the president said the other day.
Literally, the the bills to keep the government running.
There are about twelve appropriations bills every year they have to pass for discretionary income purposes or discretionary revenue and income purposes.
Uh spending, I should say.
They don't have them done.
And so what are they doing?
They're taking vote after vote on Iraqi resolutions.
They're redoing the S Chip bill time and time again, even though they know the president has the power to veto this and it can be sustained.
Talk about wasting time.
Oh, by the way, they've scuttled earmark reform, and the Democrats have decided to have a shorter work week for Congress.
I didn't know frankly that was possible, but they've done it.
This is the Democrat takeover that was going to change the culture, the arrogant culture of the GOP majority.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Yesterday, the Senate brought up S Chip again.
Mitch McConnell said, What are we doing this for?
And he pointed out the income disregard loopholes that allow states to ignore thousands of dollars in of income when determining S chip eligibility.
Waivers.
New Jersey, as we talked about the last time I filled in, was already saying, look, we're going to ensure with this S chip, this Hillary care on the installment plan, we're going to ensure children up to 300%, 350%, 400% of the poverty line.
We don't care.
We're going to get the waiver.
Oh, and in Minnesota, where we've already got an above income level Medicaid income level program.
You know, Medicaid is for the indigent.
That's already there.
SCHIP is above and beyond indigent, trying to ensnare everybody in a Hillary care plan.
In Minnesota, we've already got a program like that called Min Care.
So what are we doing with our S Chip money?
Adults, pregnant women, NS, and yes, illegal aliens.
In fact, the SCHIP bill, I believe it was Section 211 of the SCHIP bill, eliminated the fact that individuals should have to self-attest to their citizenship.
So this is about ensuring the undocumented the S Chip plan is.
You got that, you've got in state tuition, you've got driver's licenses.
Who needs the the McCain Amnesty Bill?
Who needs that?
I mean, when you when you've got the Kennedy handiwork, when you've got all of these other things that are uh creating what amounts to the same thing.
Back to the phones we go in beautiful Dubuque, Iowa.
Lee, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Jason Lewis.
Hi.
Hi there, Jason.
Appreciate your good work, and Russia's also.
Uh I'm on the Republican Central Committee in Dubuque, uh, one of the most uh heavily Democrat uh county in the state of Iowa, and I look forward to Hillary running.
I can't wait to get after her.
I think we can beat her like a rented mule.
Uh not that I would ever beat a mule rented or not.
Don't sugarcoat it, Lee.
Give it to us straight.
Right.
Uh she's the she's the weakest candidate they could ever put up, especially if we campaign on her against her on hatred of the military and and all of her left wing stuff.
And I I also think she can be uh barbed in a debate to where she'd lose her temper and start screaming at everybody.
Who can beat her?
Uh Romney could beat her.
Uh uh I Giuliani could beat her.
I think uh McCain could beat her.
Um I w uh I don't uh I don't count Ron Paul because he's not a Republican.
I saw his uh people at uh the straw poll and they weren't Republicans, and that was the estimation of a guy who's been the Republican Party longer than I have.
They're a bunch of left.
Well, you've got a caucus you've got a obviously a caucus coming up on January third, and uh those people can attend those caucuses and they can uh you know sway the vote.
I mean, I think Fred Fred Thompson could probably beat her too.
But the question is look, sh you gotta look at the way Hillary's positioning herself as compared to Edwards and Obama.
She's positioning herself to the right on Iran.
She voted for this authorization or this declaration that that there is this terrorist group in Iran.
There are a number of them.
But she said, look, this this revolutionary guard is a terrorist group, and Edwards was criticizing her for that vote.
Now, I granted she stumbled on Tuesday night, but let me let me play the devil's advocate if I may.
She stumbled, but she's still positioning herself to the right of the other candidates, so when she gets into the general election, she can say, Well, look, you people out there in the middle, I mean, I know John Edwards, I'm no I'm no Barack Obama.
I'm much more of a centrist Democrat the way her husband did.
Basic life's philosophy is slightly to the right of Ho Chi Minh.
Well, look, I'm not talking about reality.
I'm talking about winning elections, and they are two disparate things.
I mean, we had eight years of Bill Clinton proving that, did we not?
That's right.
I I agree she would not be easily beatable, but we can beat her and beat her bad just uh as bad as McGovern was in uh uh seventy-two.
Because let me give you a cautionary tale.
Let me let me give you a cautionary tale, especially to those oh so moderate Republicans in name only out there that think the only way and they're they're political consultants, they're pollsters who think the only way to beat the Democrats is to sound like a Democrat.
Uh you the Republican Party needs to start offering alternatives.
It can't win on just anti-Hillary alone.
So when she offers S chip expansion, Hillary care, the Republican Party better or the nominee, and they ought to be doing it now, better be ready for not only is she wrong, not only is this Hillary care redux, but let me tell you what the solution to health care is, and that's changing the tax code to give you the deductions for your premiums, for your health care expenses, offering you a nationwide pool where you can buy insurance from anybody, removing the mandate so you can buy a a cafeteria style catastrophic coverage.
If you don't have the solutions, you're not gonna win on anti-Hillary alone.
Lee, thanks for checking in.
Have a good day on the banks of the Mississippi.
Luann in North Carolina, beautiful Morganton.
You're uh next on EIB.
Hello.
Hi there.
Glad to talk to you today.
Same to you, ma'am.
Here uh I was watching Barack, Obama, and John Edwards, who I frankly can't stand, uh since he thinks he comes from North Carolina.
Um they had a John was you were talking about John was that an ambulance, Edwards?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, really.
Um they missed a prime opportunity to hit Hillary right between the eyes.
She opened the door on her supposed experience to qualify her to president.
I lived in Arkansas during the Hill and Bill governorship.
Right.
And she was supposed to have been over the education when they came in as governor.
The state of Arkansas ranked fortieth in the nation.
When they went for the big house, the state of Arkansas ranked 49th.
What does that say about her supposed education?
We're 49 and look out, Mississippi.
We're coming after you next.
Yeah, I know.
Well, and my my girls learn more at my dinner table than they ever learned in uh schools at Hot Springs, Arkansas.
Well, we're gonna get we're gonna get into the school issue with this Utah voucher vote that's coming up, because I will tell you uh this is another great issue.
Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty ran on tuition tax credits and eliminating the Department of Education.
Can you imagine any Republican today saying such a thing?
Oh, my consultant told me that I've got to be pro National Education Association.
We have lost that guts that Reagan had to take on the conventional wisdom.
But your your your overall point is a good one, except for this.
Telling, you know, having John Edwards or Barack Obama criticize Hillary Clinton on her lack of experience is a little bit like Bill Clinton asking Larry King for advice on marriage.
What experience do these guys have?
I mean, Edwards, you know, decided not to run in North Carolina.
He thought he was going to get beat.
And Barack Obama, you know, uh didn't he just get elected to a federal office?
So I think they've got to be a little uh weary about that.
But it's an interesting point.
And and you're right about you know her experience.
Of course, she doesn't have the experience to be commander in chief.
But neither do the rest of them.
I mean, Joe Biden's got more experience if you want to look at it that way.
But that that, you know, isn't all it's cracked up to be either.
Sometimes you need an outsider who's willing.
It comes down to issues, friends.
It comes down to Lar do you have the courage of your convictions, experience or not, to challenge the status quo, to challenge somebody on the the veracity of global warming, to challenge somebody on the the the idea that government schools and the government monopoly.
You know, can you imagine any company that could get you to buy their product with your property taxes, whether you used it or not, to buy your product with with state and and sales and income taxes?
The government sanctioned monopoly in public education has got to be addressed.
Now I know I know the political class hates this kind of talk.
They told Reagan to knock it off.
But sooner or later, you know, the elephants in the living room, if you're a conservative in America, there's this radical environmentalism trampling over private property rights, trampling over property holders in the West, and these government schools.
You know, if we're we're spending, for heaven's sakes, we're spending nationwide about eleven thousand dollars per pupil.
And in some cases in Washington, D.C. in New York, you're pushing eighteen, nineteen thousand dollars per pupil.
There's no correlation between money and education, especially when you compare us with our international counterparts.
So why do we keep feeding the beast?
Sooner or later you're gonna have to challenge this.
And that's what I think the Republican base is looking for.
Somebody to stand up and say, I'm not gonna be so politically correct on this.
I'm not gonna listen to consultants and pollsters in the political class.
I'm gonna listen to you.
I'm Jason Lewis, in for Rush Limbaugh, back right after this.
Don't go away.
Once again, having more fun than a fill-in should be allowed.
I am Jason Lewis sitting in for the great one.
L. Rushbow, he'll be back tomorrow for open line Friday.
He has some personal business to take care of during these hours, so I uh once again am glad to sit in, try to fill the shoes for the big guy out in a Wyoming Gillette.
Let's go to Will.
You're on the excellence in broadcasting network.
Hi.
Jason, conservative uh DF former DFL dittoes to you.
Oh, DFL, he's got a little code language here in Minnesota, the Democrat Farm Labor Party is what the uh traditional or the actual Democrat Party is called, so they're called the DFL Party.
Democrat Farm Labor, I guess they left out Marxists.
Yeah, they didn't I was able to escape that uh sixteen years ago, and I'm out here in wonderful Wyoming now.
But I do have a question for you, and forgive me, I'm a little nervous.
Uh the gentleman from Iowa, and I'll refer uh refrain from making any Iowa jokes, being that I'm no longer from Minnesota, but uh those people aren't Republicans.
I thought we shouldn't be lamenting the support of conservative ideals uh by people who don't I we don't identify as Republicans.
I thought that was a good thing.
And to quote L. Rushbo, conservatism works every time it's tried.
I would really like to see some support to the pro-constitution, limited federal government, low taxes, no entitlements, including SCHIP.
Um, well, I know that has people.
As a good Republican and good conservative, you're not supposed to mention Ron Paul.
But the fact of the matter is on fiscal issues, he's right.
Now I happen to disagree with him vehemently on foreign policy, and I think uh libertarians in this way are myopic.
Um so I I don't I think it can be very dangerous to say some of the things he's saying.
But when you're talking about About stable money, uh, you know, a sound dollar, when you're talking about enumerated powers doctrine, which by the way, I don't think it was Representative Jeff Flake, but there's a representative in Arizona, a good conservative who introduces the enumerated powers doctrine bill every year.
And that's an old, an old antiquated notion that, gosh, we have the rights.
What we spelled out in the Constitution were the things the government could do, the central government.
It was this notion that here's what you can do.
Here are the powers we are giving to the central government.
And here's a newsflash.
If it's not in the document, you can't do it.
Right.
So as you point out, the question for every government program ought to be by what authority do you get derive this power from the Constitution?
And that that is a healthy uh development in the Republican Party.
Right.
And Jason, I do have one concern here about this election.
I'm I'm I'm tired of being told that as a good conservative that we and all my like-minded uh peers are supposed to vote against against some wacko on the left side and vote for anybody on the right just because they're this much more or this much less than the other guy.
And and I'm telling you what, if it comes up against some of the up uh forerunners now on the the so-called upper tier who do not hold a candle to the Ronald Reagan values that we say are so important, and we'll we'll slam somebody else like a Ron Paul or whoever, not that he's so great, but his ideas are good.
I I won't vote against somebody and weaken my party anymore.
That's all we're doing.
Two thousand six was misread by a lot of people.
People weren't voting for or against the war.
They were tired of being told that as a good conservative, I've got to revote vote on the R side of the ticket, regardless of what that person personally says.
Let me tell you something.
Two thousand and six wasn't about the war at all.
The media would love to have you believe that.
It was about the most demoralized conservative base in my adult lifetime and it has gotten any better.
And you're right.
And one of the reasons, and I think it's misguided in many ways, but one of the reasons there are so many of the there's so much of the intensity for Paul is that people actually believe he means what he says.
And that's what the base is looking for.
I think he's wrong, but they believe in the passion when it comes to foreign policy and issues like that, I think he's wrong.
As he said, he has many shortcomings, but the message does not.
And what is so bad about from a conservative viewpoint going to the Constitution, limiting the government?
I again, I'm not I don't want to make this a Ron Paul commercial, but the views that let's make it a Reagan.
Well, look at the tell me how Reagan would defend the the voting against the S chip thing by saying, Well, that's wrong, but I'm gonna do it just a little bit less.
Well, you it's funny you should mention that.
We have the poster child for this this me toism of what you're talking about, where this Democrat light uh disease that's crept into the GOP, and it is the S chip bill.
We won on that bill.
The president stood strong and acted like a conservative, vetoed the S chip bill.
It was it was not failed to be overridden.
They came back, tried it again, they failed.
We won.
So naturally, these moderate Republicans snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, come back and now say, Well, we think the administration is ready to compromise on S Chip.
Oh we won.
Why would you go back and compromise?
We won the debate.
We won the battle as people realized what S Chip was about, not insuring indigent children, but insuring the middle class to get everybody ensnared in Hillary care.
We won the battle.
So why do we now have to come back and say, okay, well, we'll give instead of five billion, the president wants, we'll give you your uh your twenty billion or you 35 billion, we just want to tweak it here or there.
Why do you do that?
Why do Republicans listen to the enemy?
They read the Washington Post, the New York Times, the LA Times, and they say, ooh, somebody's mad at us.
We better change our policy.
No, that's not what people want, and you couldn't be more correct.
People are no longer gonna sit there and say, Well, it's the lesser of two evils.
Well, you know what?
They're gonna they're not gonna opt out.
They're gonna stay at home, such as happened last year, and they're gonna say, I'm not doing that anymore.
You've got to give me something to vote for.
And let me tell you, if I may, and I don't want to wear out my welcome here on the Excellence and Broadcasting Network, because I know I'm hitting on some tender issues, but the fact of the matter is, the fact of the matter is you've got a bunch of Republican governors getting ready to rebrand the party in their moderate image.
All right, I want to touch on what the Republican governors are proposing for a new GOP.
It is troubling, my friends.
We'll get to that and Warren Buffett back at it again.
He wants to pay more taxes.
Why not, Warren?
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