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Sept. 4, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 4, 2007, Tuesday, Hour #3
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Ladies and gentlemen, do we really want to live in a country where men cannot pick up other men?
And what happens when men try to pick up women?
These are serious questions we face, and this is the place we face them.
The Rush Limbaugh Program and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, here we are on the cutting edge of societal evolution.
Telephone number 800-282-2882, the email address rush at EIBNet.com.
All right.
Let me, you know, I should have done this during the break.
I apologize.
I got to find.
Yeah, see, this don't have it.
No big deal.
I asked a question earlier in the program.
Do you have any problem with presidential candidates announcing their intentions on Jay Leno or Letterman or what have you?
Mr. Snurdley nods in there that he does not.
What about you, Mamon?
You have any problem with it?
None.
Oh, you do.
You disagree with going on the Leno show.
Oh, good, good.
I have problems with it too.
Now, here's the Thompson explanation from the media guy running the Thompson campaign is that there'll be far more normal Americans watching the tonight show or shows like it that will be watching presidential debates.
Like there's a presidential debate Wednesday in New Hampshire.
And there'll be far more people watching.
See, if Thompson were to announce Tuesday than go to the debate Wednesday, far fewer people would know that he's announced than if he does it on the tonight show.
Now, Schwarzenegger announced it on tonight show.
And he's an actor too, and Fred Thompson, Fred Thompson's an actor.
But here's my problem with it, folks.
And it's this is not settled science with me.
I mean, I'm not fully decided on this yet.
But I think the office is being devalued.
Or it stands the possibility of being devalued when it's announced in an entertainment comedy show type format.
One of the fastest ways for the office of the presidency to lose its stature and its respect, to me anyway, excuse me, is to make the, folks, play Happy Feet again.
I've got the, turn the mic.
You don't turn the microphone on till I tell you.
Turn it off.
Turn it off.
Okay, you people watching on the DittoCam can see that I'm fighting the ravages of some sort of infection or virus here.
What did you say about dignified announcements?
You saying I was not being dignified here?
What am I supposed to do?
Okay, I could have stayed home.
I could have stayed home.
No, I came here to fight the battle of the day.
I came here to fight the war.
And I'm trying to work through this.
Do we really want to live in a country where men cannot pick up?
I'm serious about this.
One of the fastest ways to devalue the office of the presidency is to make it part of the pop culture of the day and to make the pop culture of the day relevant and important in selecting a president.
It bothers me, Grant, that pop culture is going to hell in a handbasket.
People like Paris Hill and Lindsey Lohan go on those shows.
And I just, well, Rush, it's got to reach a lot of average ordinary Americans.
And I understand that.
But there's a more dignified way of doing this.
You call a press conference, you announce it, you be very serious, you explain what you want to do.
I know that running for the office of presidency today, more than ever before, requires somebody telegenic, somebody media savvy.
And I know that with the quote-unquote average normal Americans, if you can go on the tonight show or the Letterman show and come off as an average real guy, that you might have vault ahead of other guys.
I don't know.
I'm not totally decided about this, but it is somewhat of a concern for me.
Yes, I did say that.
Snurdly is reminding me, but see, that works in my favor.
Politics is showbiz for the ugly.
And showbiz for the ugly takes place in Washington.
Showbiz for the beautiful people takes place in Hollywood.
And you start, of course, Fred Thompson's Hollywood showbiz guy.
It may fit for him.
Obviously, he's decided it fits for him.
I know one of the reasons, too, as far as Fred Thompson is concerned, the conventional wisdom is, and I don't know if I believe this either.
Every time I hear this conventional wisdom stuff, the conventional wisdom is he's got a week after his announcement to make it stick.
He has a week to make it take off.
And if it doesn't take off after a week, if he doesn't have a good announcement tour with a big bang sort of start to it, then he's going to fade and fizzle because he's waited too long to get in while all these other guys have been out there treading the paths of the state fairs and spending time with the butter queens and so forth at these various state fairs.
Thompson's been out there doing that to a certain extent as well.
It does something annoying at me.
As I say, I'm not totally decided on this.
I'm just sharing with you my considerable instincts out there.
I can't get over this story.
This is from August 30th.
United Nations officials found vials of dangerous chemicals which had been removed from Iraq a decade ago in a building at the United Nations in New York.
UN officials said that there was no danger.
The FBI was called in to help remove these substances.
The material was phosgene, a chemical warfare agent.
The inspections unit said the statement that the chemicals had been found last Friday.
The Iraqi weapons inspectors came across the material as they were closing their orifices, which are housed in a building near the UN headquarters in Manhattan.
Phosgene or phosgene, however you pronounce it, it's used extensively during World War I as a choking agent.
Okay, so in the UN building, in a UN building in New York City, they found a dangerous chemical agent, well-known warfare agent, causes choking, and the agent comes from Iraq, removed 10 years ago.
How in the world does this mysteriously end up in a building in New York at the United Nations?
Especially since we all know that there weren't any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
How in hell can this happen?
The real question is, where is the rest of the stuff?
Ha, welcome back.
El Rushbone at Cutting Edge, can somebody name for me the last conservative presidential candidate to go on Letterman or Leno?
Throw McCain out because he's plummeted down there in the polls.
And it, I don't know if there's a connection correlation or what have you.
Mm-hmm.
Presidential candidate, I said.
Do me Arnold.
I've already admitted that Arnold went on there and announced on Leno.
All right, let's go to the phones.
People have been patiently waiting.
Steve in Springfield, Oregon.
Thank you for calling, sir, and I appreciate your patience.
Hey, buddy, Megadillo from the Pacific Northwest.
Hello?
Yes.
Hey, buddy.
Anyway, we're right next to Idaho.
I know that because I studied the old-fashioned geography, and I just wanted to say that you're wrong on the Larry Craig thing.
Okay.
So, anyway, I don't want that kind of guy in my party, you know, and I don't want a guy going to try to pick up a guy in a men's room at an airport, and I don't want a guy in the White House going to try to sodomize an intern in the Oval Office.
I just don't want it.
Yeah.
Well, I understand that, and I totally agree with you.
Okay.
Well, you were kind of, you know, mocking members of the Republican Party that, you know, were talking about hypocrisy.
And I agree with everything that those leaders in the Republican Party said.
You were repeating them in a kind of mocking manner.
No, no, no, no.
I'm getting it.
No, no.
To me, this is a matter of the people on the left dictating who among us gets to serve, who's fit to hold office.
That's what bothers me about this.
I think the Republicans reacted a little bit too quickly and thrown the guy overboard because there was, we don't know, he didn't pick anybody up in a bathroom.
Oh, man, you know how hard it is to.
It wasn't toe-tapping Rush, man.
It was playing footsie, you know.
And that bathroom isn't just like the first one you come to.
It's a well-known bathroom.
You've got to go out of your way to get to it.
I mean, I'm sorry, dude, he did it.
You know, in that press conference where he says, I'm not gay, that reminded me of President Clinton saying, I didn't have sex with that woman.
You know, he just, I'm glad he lost a seat.
He should have been gone.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
What's wrong with being gay?
Nothing but.
That's exactly right.
Should have been, if he is, it should have probably come out and said so.
Nothing.
I guess there's nothing wrong with automizing that.
No, it really made the Republicans mad then.
Should have admitted it, and Craig should have admitted it.
You know, I don't like that kind of hypocrisy.
I'm not sure I want a guy like that in charge of making laws about our penal system.
I don't think he should have held on to his seat or anybody else's.
Well, I got news for you.
The guys that are making laws about the penal system and every other system out there are probably just as much reprobate as Craig is in their own ways.
I mean, the idea that we got people clean and pure as the wind-driven snow up there is a myth.
No, we don't.
All right, buddy.
Well, that's pretty much all I wanted to say.
Okay.
I appreciate your call, Steve.
Thanks so much, buddy.
It's great to have you out there, especially in Oregon.
It's a lonely place for Republicans to be.
And I'm glad you're with us.
Rusty in Orlando, Florida.
Hello, sir.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Well, dittos, Rush.
It's a pleasure to speak with you.
Good, sir.
Thank you.
And it's a miracle that you're actually hearing me.
I'm very pleased about that as well.
At any rate, I can actually read a map, and I am looking at Nicaragua and Honduras, and I'm wondering what's happening to my aging tobaccos down there that I'm supposed to be smoking in a couple of years.
Yeah, I bet you're talking about Padrones.
That and some Meraki Patels and some Carlos Taraños.
It's a good question.
These hurricanes have gone through the Vuelta Bajo, which is the prime tobacco growing region in Cuba in the Piñar del Rio.
And those sheds where the aging takes place are not the strongest structures.
This is a good point.
I haven't checked this, but I know who to call to find out about this.
And I'll try to have an answer for you sometime in the next couple days.
You're great, Rush.
Thank you.
I appreciate it, Rusty.
Thank you for the call.
Cell phone on I-5 in California.
This is Dave, and you're next, sir.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
Thank you.
I'm heading up to your adopted hometown, Sacramento.
Well, wave for me when you drive through town.
Excuse me?
Wave for me when you drive through town.
We'll do it.
When you started talking about the devaluing of the office on television, the first thing that flashed to my mind was Richard Nixon doing socket to me on Laugh-In.
Yeah, that's right.
Was he president then?
I believe he was.
Yes, sir.
Well, look what happened to him.
I know.
It just shows what can happen if you try to use the wrong media and you don't know how to do it.
Well, Fred Thompson knows how to do it.
I just wanted to bring this up because it's just, I have a reverence for the office.
I know we have an evolving culture and things change.
And I'm not trying to be locked into cement as an old fuddy duddy.
And I've got nothing to do Jay Weno.
I've got nothing against it tonight show.
I don't want anybody to misunderstand here.
It's just I have some, it's an instinctive thing, instinctual.
He's got some gnawing problem with, and it's not because it's unfair to the other candidates.
It's not because the other candidates haven't been on.
McCain has been.
And I know Leno has political guests now and then.
It just, it seems like the presidency should be exempt and above the common pop culture.
But then again, average ordinary Americans elect the president.
And if you want to expose yourself to average ordinary Americans who don't know where their own country is on a map, but you still want them to vote for you, then you go on shows like this.
Lee in Tampa, Florida.
Hello, sir.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Hi, Rush.
Big fan.
First time I've ever been able to get through to you.
Thank you, sir.
Hey, if you think going on Leno to announce your presidency devalues the office of president, don't you think trying to pick up a guy in an airport bathroom devalues the office of senator?
Are you?
Do you think, what's behind this question?
What do you think?
No, I just think it was – I think the Republicans that wanted him out of office as quickly as possible were absolutely 100 percent right because he at a minimum pled guilty to disorderly conduct in a men's room in an airport.
And that brings discredit on the Senate.
And even if other members of other parties have brought even more discredit on the Senate, I think a standard has to be made and set.
And when our guys don't meet that standard, they're done.
Well, I can see by virtue of the callers that Snurdly is finding today that I'm on a losing side of this argument.
I can see that I have failed to make my point properly.
I have failed as a communicator today, and I'm going to chalk this up to the fact I'm fighting the ravages of the common cold.
Or maybe it's not so common what I've got, but whatever it is.
And one other thing, didn't Gerald Ford get a big bump against Jimmy Carter when he went on Saturday Night Live?
I don't remember Ford going on Saturday Night Live.
Maybe my memory's bad.
But I also don't remember Gerald Ford beating Jimmy Carter.
What are you talking about here?
He might have got a big bump.
Yip, yip, yip, yip, yahoo, but who won?
But yeah, yeah, that's the point.
Thank you.
At least I write about something in this call.
It's great to hear from you out there.
Lee, thanks so much.
Stephen Long Island, welcome, sir, to the EIB network.
Hi, Rush.
Welcome back.
Thank you, sir.
Rush, I have a question about Larry Craig's situation.
If being gay is good, and if what Larry Craig did was kind of gay, then maybe what he did wrong and why he's being kicked out is because he won't admit that he's gay, which is good.
Well, it depends.
See, the left cannot condemn him for being gay because they support it.
They cannot.
This is my point earlier.
The left cannot condemn any form of behavior other than conservatism because conservatism claims to have a guide rail in life.
A bunch of guide rails or guideposts called morality, decency, right and wrong.
So they go after the hypocrisy.
And they claim that Republicans are hypocrites because they stand for all these high moral values.
But look at the kind of guys they elect.
They elect reprobates.
They elect perverts.
They elect liars and cheats and scandalmongers and so forth.
And they have toe-tappers in bathrooms in Minnesota.
We liberals, of course, have those same people in our party, but we don't condemn them.
And we do not claim to have the moral high ground in the way we live.
Other than, of course, liberalism is better than anything out there.
And so they have to go after the hypocrisy.
They can't go after Larry Craig for being gay.
That's what it would have been fun if Larry Craig, if he really wanted to stay in the Senate, would have announced he was changing parties and becoming a Democrat at that first press conference.
I'm sure he didn't have the presence of mind to do that, but that would have confounded the Democrats.
What they said, well, we don't want you in our party.
You're a toe-tapper in a bathroom in Minnesota.
But they got worse than that in their party, folks.
Much worse.
Back after this.
I know.
And we're back serving humanity, Rush Limbaugh, executing assigned host duties flawlessly.
Zero mistakes.
By the way, I'm going to make another stab at this Larry Craig business.
The police report does not say that Larry Craig played FTSE in the bathroom at the Minneapolis airport.
If he had played FTSE, I assume the prosecution wouldn't have signed a deal for a misdemeanor.
Anyway, not the point.
Here's the point.
A standard has not been made and met with the resigning of Larry Craig.
Look, can I go through some recent history for you to try to illustrate for you what my problem with this is?
Larry Craig was the latest to go for what seem like rational reasons.
Oh, he played FTSE in a bathroom.
He's soliciting male sex.
We can't have that.
Gotta go get him out of there.
Alberto Gonzalez.
He split the scene after Republicans pushed him and joined with the Democrats.
I guess for what seemed like rational reasons.
Why he was incompetent.
Why he was involved in the U.S. Attorney thing.
There was no crime.
No crime was ever committed.
Gonzalez about rational.
He had to go.
And the Republicans joined the Democrats in pushing him out the door.
Rumsfeld.
Rumsfeld went.
That was supposed to fix things.
Yeah, we get rid of Rumsfeld.
Give the Libs what they want.
And they'll turn around and support us on a rock.
Right.
Gingrich, delay.
They resigned for what at the time seemed like rational reasons, and Republicans joined in on that too.
Yeah, you guys really got to go.
You're embarrassing us here.
Newt, you're having an affair.
Delay, you got yourself indicted out there.
You got to go.
You're making it look bad for you.
Kick them out.
And we have Bob Livingston resigned after it was revealed that he had an affair.
And lots of Republicans thought that was a good idea.
Yeah, Bob, you got to get out.
We're trying to nail Clinton on this stuff.
It doesn't look good if you're in there.
We got to get you out of there.
You go, Bob.
You're making it look good.
Very helpful.
And then Mark Foley.
Mark Foley was ousted before the November election with Republican support, and that was supposed to fix things.
Do you detect a pattern here, ladies and gentlemen?
Every so often, Republicans quit, forced to resign with other Republicans joining in, pushing them out the door.
During this same period, may I cite for you the name of Congressman William Jefferson, Democrat Louisiana, who is still a member of Congress.
I don't recall if he's able to hold on to his committee ship committee position, but whatever.
And there are plenty of other examples of this kind of thing.
You don't see the Democrats pushing each other out the door.
You don't see them leaving of their own volition.
You see them defended.
I know what you're saying, but Rush, we don't want people like that in our party.
We don't.
I understand that.
I just, there's a trend here, folks.
And every time we get rid of one of these people, we're supposed to reap the rewards.
Republicans are showing the world that we are not going to tolerate this kind of reprobateness in our party.
We're not going to put up with it.
We're going to clean it out because we are the party of values and standards and so forth and so on.
Meanwhile, we lost the House last November.
We lost the Senate.
And it looks worse for the coming November.
But forget it, folks, because I, as has been pointed out by several callers today, have totally lost touch on this issue and have no idea what I'm talking about.
Ryan in St. Henry, Ohio, on the cell phone.
Nice to have you, sir, on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush.
Well, I hope you feel better tomorrow.
You don't sound so well.
I normally enjoy listening to your show, but you burst my bubble today.
I was listening earlier and you're talking about all those statistics for being poor.
You know, I thought I was doing pretty good.
I own my own home.
It's a three-bedroom home.
My wife and I got to own our own vehicle.
We got two-color televisions, cable, cell phones.
I'm feeling pretty good, thinking my life's going pretty well.
And I find out I'm poor, Rush.
It's a shock, wasn't it?
I can imagine it's a shock.
You have a microwave?
Yes, microwave.
You have a stereo?
Yep, I have it stolen, though.
It was stolen, though.
No, you stole your stereo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You are sharp.
You're a sharp listener.
Well, it is.
That was pretty amazing, isn't it, to find out that the poor in this country are that well endowed?
Yeah, yeah.
I was awfully dumbfounded.
I caught me off guard.
I guess now I should ask for some government assistance, huh?
Well, you certainly qualify.
How many kids do you have?
Just one.
How old's a child?
Eight months.
Oh, well, you're guaranteed another 24 years of health care for that kid under the ships program.
You are.
If the president signs it, I don't know that he will.
Dale in Las Vegas.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the broadcast.
Hi, Rush.
Hi.
I got a question for you, but I wanted to make a comment first.
Yes.
Okay, I told you you were playing too much golf, and now you understand why.
It spreads disease, I think.
And I told you about the $10 cigar tax.
I think what this country needs is a good five-cent cigar.
Yes.
Here's my question: people in Nicaragua, Guyana, are Americans.
Just because we live in North America, we call ourselves Americans.
Well, they live in South America, and they're Americans.
Now, you're making my point.
You're making my point.
This is all gobbledygook.
And you're trying to say there's North Americanos, Central Americanos, and South Americanos.
Right.
And you don't defend.
Because we're all Americans.
And so this Miss Team South Carolina comes out there and says, U.S. Americans, you think she's being taught properly.
Yeah, well, you look at it this way: we don't defend county lines with guns.
When Bush's best buddy, Johnny Satan, put two guards in jail, Ramos and Campion, he was defending the right of Americans to cross from one area to another.
Lost you.
Well, you know about the two guards.
Oh, the two border guards, the two border guards.
Right, and they're still in jail, aren't they?
I think, yes, sir, they are in state.
Okay, and the drug dealer that was shot in the butt, he's got a free pass to go back and forth, doesn't he?
That does appear to be the case, yes.
Okay, so I'm saying, if your own best buddy Bush thinks his best buddy Johnny Satan can do this, then we don't have a country.
We're not United States citizens.
We're American citizens of the Canemex Union, the NAFTA thing.
Damn, you know, you're right.
Yeah.
And it's only for the rich and the poor.
And I'm afraid I'm slipping off into the poor, so I want to ask you, please, if you've got an extra cigar, send it.
And the other thing is, if you're going to run to Guatemala when the country falls, I don't want you bumping into Bush and save a seat for me.
I am not going to go to Guatemala.
Just got destroyed by Hurricane Felix.
Why would anybody go to Guatemala?
I am rich, but I'm not going to send you a cigar because I don't know your address and I'm not going to ask you for it.
John in Mount Shasta, California.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Great to have you with us.
Good day, Raj.
Earlier, you mentioned that the Democrats had wasted the Craig situation.
Yeah.
I don't think they did because the Hillary Chinese contribution thing has kind of been slipped under the rug, and nobody seems to be talking about it.
You know, it's an amazing thing.
When the Clintons get into trouble, they always turn to the Chikoms.
And the Chikoms always come through.
You know, you're right.
First, we had the Lippo Group and James Riotti, and we had Johnny Chung of the Barbecue Chinese Place in Little Rock.
No, that was Charlie Tree.
We had Johnny Charley, all these guys in the 96 fundraising scandal, all this money coming in from the People's Liberation Army of China, James, whatever.
That was a different route of it.
The Lippo group.
Now we got this Norman Shu guy.
And Hillary's running around.
I had no idea he was a fugitive.
I had no idea.
And Clinton said, well, there's no way we could know he's a fugitive.
I mean, too many donors out there.
You can't fit all these people.
But Hillary gave the money and he donated to charity.
It's all right.
And if we find out that more of it came from him is wrong, we'll give it back.
But when I go take it, we're not going to accept it.
I was watching Meet the Press yesterday.
And they did a whole roundtable.
Russer did a whole roundtable.
It was Mary Madeline.
It was Carville.
It was Bob Shrum.
And Mike Murphy, political consultants extraordinaire.
And this fundraising thing came up.
You know what the conventional wisdom on this is?
Carville led off by saying, well, of course, there's so many donors out there.
It's impossible to keep track of who these people are.
And he started citing several instances of sleazy donors to the Republicans.
And they didn't know either.
I mean, folks, nothing happens with the Clintons that is coincidence.
Here's Norman Shu.
He's from Hong Kong.
He's Chinese.
Not known whether he has any ties to the Chai Comms.
But I mean, come on.
Eight years apart, 96, well, 12 years apart.
It was 11 years.
96, now 2008.
Somebody, I forget who, somebody said today, it's interesting.
In a Chinese calendar, 1996 and 2008 are the year of the rat.
And these two years happen to be years in which there is suspicious fundraising going to the Clintons.
And nobody seems to care about this.
Now, the Craig thing, obviously, look at the drive-bys.
They swerved right by Gonzalez.
They swerved right by a whole bunch.
They have zeroed in on this Larry Craig thing.
They are paying no attention to Hillary's fundraising or the scandal involving this guy, other to report it as she gave the money to charity.
What a woman.
What a candidate.
And of course she didn't know where the guy came from.
Of course not.
She doesn't know anything.
Well, I've got a list of soundbites.
In fact, let's get started with.
Let me see.
Find him.
Let's take a break.
We'll take a break.
I'll find these soundbites because we've got years of examples of Hillary's.
I don't know.
I don't remember that.
I mean, it's the biggest surprise in the world to me.
You'll hear when we come back.
Stay with us.
Hi, we are back.
Before we get to the Hillary soundbites, I'm going to try one more time here with Larry Craig.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you want to talk about standards and morality, I mean, I've got people calling this show accusing Larry Craig of crimes that he didn't commit and accusing him of conduct that he didn't commit.
I mean, everybody talks about Craig cut a deal.
How about the prosecutors cut a deal?
If they had him on lewd and lascivious behavior, why'd they cut a deal to something much less than that?
I've been through this, folks.
I have been through this.
You people out there are falling for Democrat talking points.
If they had such a strong case, why'd they cut a deal with Craig?
We keep hearing that he cut the deal.
Well, the local officials had to sign a deal.
If his conduct was lewd, and if he did, in fact, solicit sex in a public place, why not throw the book at him?
Why not?
That's what you do when you have someone dead to rights and you seek to prove a point and deter certain conduct.
If you don't want that kind of stuff going on in your bathroom and you're an airport cop in Minnesota and you don't want this stuff going and you found it, you throw the book at the person that did it and you send us in, but they didn't do that.
Another thing, folks, this is not about the Republican Party.
Some of you callers are insisting this is about the Republican Party.
You're falling for Democrat talking points.
You are acting defensive and you're trying to maintain a high moral standard for yourself.
You're making it about you personally when in fact you're sitting around and you're watching Democrats decide to pick off any of our guys they want and you're helping them.
All right.
I expect to be fully adjudged wrong again when we get to our next series of phone calls.
Here's Hillary Clinton, January 1992, 60 minutes.
This is about what voters want in a Canada.
Part of what I believe with all my heart is that the voters are tired of people who lie to them.
They're tired of people who act like something they're not.
They're tired of people who deny problems.
They're tired of people who neglect problems.
Right.
This is when her husband was running for president.
This is when she's pulling off the Elizabeth Edwards routine.
But let's go to last Thursday, Manhattan at a press conference, talking to reporters about the money that Norman Shu had donated to her campaign.
We do the very best job we can based on the information available to us to make appropriate vetting decisions.
And this one was a big surprise to everybody.
Yes!
Of course it was.
Why?
It was a huge surprise.
Well, does that sound familiar?
Let's go back to her Senate campaign.
Shocked and surprised her own brother was selling pardons.
You know, it came as a surprise to me, and it was very disturbing.
And I'm just very disappointed about it.
I did not have any involvement, you know, and I'm just very disappointed about my brother's involvement.
If I had known about this, we wouldn't be standing here today.
I didn't know about it.
And I'm very regretful that it occurred, that I didn't know about it.
I might have been able to prevent this from happening.
And I'm just very disappointed about the whole matter.
I did not know.
I was heartbroken and shocked by it.
Yeah, it was a big surprise to us to find that Norman Shu was this bad guy.
It's a big, big shock to us.
When her brothers were involved in Mark Rich Park, she was stunned at that.
Let's go to Pretty and Pink press conference from our TV program archives, April 22nd, 1994.
A young attorney, a young bank officer, did all the work.
And the letter was sent.
But because I was what you call the billing attorney, in other words, I had to send the bill to get the payment made, my name was put on the bottom of the letter.
It was not an area that I practiced in.
It was not an area that I really know anything to speak of about.
He's talking about the billing records.
You know, where the hell would a billing record?
Well, my name was on them, but just I had no idea why my name was anything about it.
It was a total shock.
Also, this is from the same press conference, the Pretty and Pink press conference, April 22nd, 94.
A semi-identified reporter named Mike says, Mrs. Clinton, could you clarify for us what documents were removed from Vince Foster's office after he died and why were they there in the first place?
Well, Mike, I can tell you what I know, which is that I did not know that Vince had any of the documents related to our personal business in his office until after his death.
When I snuck in there and found him, pull him out.
She never knows anything.
She wants to be president of the United States.
She never knows anything.
January 27, 1998, Today Show.
And to my husband.
I mean, you know, he woke me up Wednesday morning and said, you're not going to believe this, but.
And I said, what is this?
And so, yeah, it came as a very big thing.
When he said, but, he said, but what?
But I want to tell you what's in the newspapers.
This was the Monica story.
This is how she was explaining how Bill was going to tell her about the Monica story.
You had to sum it all up.
Here's the Brett girl talking about Hillary.
Of course, he denied he was talking about Hillary.
The American people deserve to know that their presidency is not for sale.
The Lincoln bedroom is not for rent.
And lobbyist money can no longer influence policy in the House or the Senate.
So she didn't know about Monica.
Of course, she probably vetted Monica.
Bottom line here is, folks, woman knows nothing, is surprised by everything, and yet wants to be our president.
One of the things I had intended to get to today and didn't get to was the president's visit to Iraq.
This could be seminal.
Somebody wrote today that this could be the Gettysburg of the Iraq war, going to Anbar province.
Because it was not too long ago the Democrats kept saying that Anbar was the example of how the war is lost.
And now Anbar is safe enough for the president and his war cabinet to go and Maliki to come up there and all that.
And I wanted to juxtapose it with Mrs. Clinton saying, we got to get out of there again, which she will not do if she's elected president.
So We'll have that discussion tomorrow when we get back.
Been great being with you today, folks.
Even though suffering the ravages of a major, major illness, I am not deterred, and I will not be deterred tomorrow.
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