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Aug. 27, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 27, 2007, Monday, Hour #3
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Welcome back to the program.
Third hour of this summer Monday.
Thanks for coming along.
It's always, summer Mondays always seem like they're a slow news cycle day.
But today, Alberto Gonzalez resigning.
We've got see if we can get to have you seen the fires over in Greece?
I mean, there's a satellite photo of Greece that shows there's fires all over the place.
I mean, they're everywhere, and they're talking about whether or not this guy in charge of their security in Greece talking about whether or not his terror, they could fall underneath their terrorism laws.
I thought I remembered, I may be wrong, but I thought one of the things when we, after 9-11, six months, a year later, people talking about, well, you know, the terrorists could do this.
They could do that.
They could do, we got the ferry boats now.
We got all this other stuff.
I thought one of them was that they were going to set our forests on fire.
And so I don't know whether this Greek security guy is just talking about trying to prosecute somebody under terrorism laws or whether he really thinks there's terrorists.
I'm not sure why.
I'm not sure what Greece did, but I'm sure there's a ties.
Anyway, we have, let's talk money this hour.
My favorite subject, my real world, other than this radio hobby, I've been poking through the financial world since I got a license to do so 30, yes, 30 years ago.
Yes, right.
I'm a professional.
I'm more than 50 miles away from you, and I've been doing it for 30 years.
I started when I was one.
Where do we, okay, Census Bureau coming out tomorrow.
And Robert Rector wrote a great piece on this today because the Census Bureau is going to report their annual report about poverty in America, and it will be coming out tomorrow.
So I could sit down this afternoon if John Edwards would like.
I could write his press release for him now, but I'm sure he's got it already written.
In fact, it's been his message.
He's been running around the nation on this crusade against poverty.
Well, actually, you know what?
I haven't heard him do that lately.
I think he figured out, now this sounds mean, but it's not intended to be that way.
But I think he figured out that there's a lot of poor people in this country that don't vote.
And so I think he's kind of cooled his heels a little bit about the two Americas.
No, I mean, look, a friend of mine is one of the big, big, big campaign consultants here in the state capitol of California for Democrats.
I know the guy.
We don't agree on anything, but he's a really good guy.
And he told me a long time ago something surprised me.
He says, he says, you know who votes, don't you?
I said, who?
He said, middle-aged and older white guys with money.
I said, come on, you're just trying to bait me, aren't you?
And he says, no, he says, it's the truth.
So as much as John Edwards has been doing his crusade about poverty, it gave him a chance to put together that poverty foundation so we could raise money so he could then go out and do what he's doing now.
But tomorrow he's going to be jumping up and down about this poverty report.
It will say that there are approximately 37 million people in this country who live in official pottery of pottery, official poverty.
Not unofficial, but official poverty.
And that's the key is what is official.
And so he's going to come out tomorrow and he's going to talk about how this $37 million is a plague and it's terrible and everybody will go, yeah, nobody wants to see anybody in poverty.
But in the history of mankind, there's always going to be one person that has less than another, or conversely, one that has more than another.
We're not all in an equal socialist system here where we all have exactly the same amount of money and redistribute it every day.
But there are some who, like John Edwards, I think, believes, except for him, that that should take place.
So the poor in America, what Robert Rector is writing about is that poor in America isn't as terrible or as incredible as the anti-poverty crusaders like John Edwards contend.
Because he says if being poor means a lack of nutritious food, adequate warm housing, clothing for you, then very few of America's 37 million official poor people can be regarded as actually poor.
Does that include cable TV?
That includes, yes, it does, H.R. I've got on the list cable TV.
And I will, well, in fact, you're jumping ahead of me here, but these are the facts.
These are the facts, folks, that I want you to keep in mind when you start hearing about poverty in America.
Because if you want to donate and you want to give to charitable causes that help the poor, you have to know if you're just pushing a string or whether you're really helping with your money.
When I donate my money to a charity, I want to make sure it's used effectively, that somebody gets a meal or somebody gets a shirt on their back that otherwise would not have one.
Somebody gets a helping hand.
But the definition of poor, you go through the factual report from the Census Bureau.
46% of all poor households that are officially poor households own their own homes.
So you're thinking, yeah, Tom, but what's this home?
What's it look like?
Well, it looks like this.
It's a three-bedroom house with one and a half baths, a garage, and a porch or a patio.
That's almost half.
The other half don't.
But there's a lot of people that don't own a home that are also not poor.
That doesn't tell the whole story.
So let's go to the next number.
80% of poor households listed under the government's definition of poor have air conditioning.
Back in 1970, only 36% of all American households had air conditioning.
Yeah, basically a third, two-thirds of the people in this country, 1970, all people, did not have air conditioning.
Now, 80% of poor households have air conditioning.
Only 6% of poor households are overcrowded.
And the way you do this is you go in and you figure out how many people live in the home and how many rooms are in the home.
And two-thirds of the poor households have more than two rooms per person.
The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe.
But for those of you that have traveled to Europe, you know that everything is itty-bitty small scale in Europe, and that's their culture, and that's the way they define their living spaces.
We, the American culture, is big homes, lots of room, lots of elbow room.
Give me space.
Three-quarters, 75% Of poor households own a car.
31% own two cars or more.
97% have a color television.
Over half have two or more color televisions.
I don't know, do they make black and white anymore?
I don't think they do.
So in other words, 97% have TV.
To go to your question, HR, 62% have cable or satellite.
And I don't know.
That's a number that congratulations to the cable and satellite companies because they've really penetrated this nation where before that was a number that wasn't even close for the whole country.
78% have a VCR or DVD player.
89% own microwave ovens.
More than half have a stereo.
More than a third have automatic dishwashers.
So it is interesting.
And we can go through the whole list here, folks.
We can go through a long, long list of what it means to be poor in America.
And it goes back to my comment about health care in America.
We've got health care.
It may not be the most efficient.
It may not be the cheapest.
But if you're sick, you will get health care.
There is no doubt about it.
The question that is being pushed in front of so many places with the various states and so forth coming out with ideas is, again, to get health care insurance.
So the poor, whether it's the working poor or the really poor, they will get medical care.
They also have access to plenty of nutrition.
Rector writes, poor children actually consume more meat than do higher-income children and have average protein intakes 100% above their daily recommended levels.
They're one inch taller and 10 pounds heavier than the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II.
So what he's saying is that the poor are generally well-nourished.
They do have temporary food shortages.
Even that is relatively rare.
89% of poor families report that they have enough to eat.
2% say they often do not have enough to eat.
The purpose behind this, for all you good libs that are accidentally tuned into the program today, if you are going to direct your efforts or if we are going to direct our nation's efforts towards helping people in poverty, you got to first know what poverty is.
And secondly, you got to know if it's going to do anything for them that they're not already getting.
If you really, truly want to help from the deepest part of your heart, you can't just throw money at something where the numbers here are showing that being poor in America is, as we've heard, but now documented, and probably John Edwards will forget to mention tomorrow about just exactly what poverty is among our fellow citizens.
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My name is Tom Sullivan.
This is the Rush Lindbaugh Radio Program.
Welcome back.
Tom Sullivan in for Rush.
He'll be back next Monday.
We've got a whole lineup this week of assistant professors at the EIB Institute.
I'm just looking at another story that came out about the pocketbook issues are going to come to the forefront, so says Politico, on this presidential race.
Look, I don't know if it's really going to come to the forefront as far as they're going to go out there and start talking about various economic proposals because economics can make a lot of people glaze over.
They hear the word economics and they go, oh, man, where's that?
I'm switching to something.
But no, So I don't think they're going to come out and talk about economic policy.
But people vote their pocketbooks.
They just do.
It makes a huge difference for an incumbent, in this case, an incumbent party, if the economy is going well at the time the election comes along.
And it's going to be dicey because the economy is slowing down.
I fall into the camp that most economists fall into that I don't think it's going to fall into a recession.
I saw a piece earlier today.
Larry Summers, the former Secretary of the Treasury in the Clinton administration, was giving a speech, and the headline was, Summers says we're going into a recession.
Well, not really.
He said there's a more likelihood of it, but I would love.
In fact, I'm going to see Larry Summers.
He's going to be at a program I'm going to be at in about a month.
Well, the same one that Russia is going to be at in Sacramento.
La Summer is going to be on the stage.
And I'll bet you drive a lunch at the drive-up window that it is a, you know, probably like a lot of economists.
Yeah, it's possible.
Even Alan Greenspan said that.
That possibility may be up a little bit, but it's nowhere near probable.
There's too much good going on in the economy.
We'll get to some more about taxes as well.
And I know Rush has beat this to death, and I know the website, rushlimbaugh.com, has had for how long has it been now?
Two, three, four years, the breakdown of taxes, but they got a new one that just came out.
And a story, if you talk about economic misreporting, David K. Johnston, Randall Hovind, wrote a piece for the American Thinker Today about David K. Johnston, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting on taxes, wrote an article for the New York Times that is just misleading.
I mean, it's just wrong.
It just is.
But that's what gets reported.
Whit in Spring Hill, Kansas.
Hello, Whit.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi there, Tom.
How are you doing?
Doing terrific.
Great to hear you today.
I was just calling to tell you that those numbers you were reading off, I don't think they're quite accurate because I think that a lot of people, as far as those poor numbers were going, you were talking about the number of people that own their homes that still qualify as poor.
I don't think most people own their homes yet because they still have a mortgage on them and they don't have the money to be able to pay them off immediately, so they don't actually own their houses or the cars for that process.
Well, yeah, so if you have a mortgage in this country, you are poor.
What?
No.
No, no.
Just disputing the story.
No, no, I know.
But I mean, the point is, they always ask you, you know, in these surveys, they say, well, are you renting or do you own?
Well, yeah, you got the deed, so you own it.
You also have a debt, so I understand your point.
But no, look, this is Census Bureau stuff.
This is coming out of the Census Bureau is what the people that are defined as poor in this nation.
And my only point is look at, I grew up in what's classified as in the day anyway.
We didn't know we were poor.
But poor doesn't mean bad.
Poor, you can be clean.
You can go to school.
You can go to work.
You just don't have any money.
That doesn't mean you're a bad person.
But if somebody wants to help a poor person, you got to know what a poor person has in this country to find out what you're going to do to help.
Now, maybe a lot of people are poor in this country after they overdid the home buying, which is another whole topic about the mortgage fiasco that we're going through in this country right now.
Which, speaking of Congress, and how my hour last hour was about how Congress, the kids under the dome, the pinheads under the dome, they're thinking about writing new laws to make sure that that doesn't happen again, that we don't have a housing mortgage problem again.
You want to foul up the mortgage business or you want to foul up the housing industry, get Congress involved in this thing.
I hope they stay far, far away from this.
The states are the ones that license the people that give mortgages.
But Barney Frank, thank you, Congressman Barney Frank, because this is precious, the way that he lays out the view that he has and many other Democrats have of government and business and you and me in our pocketbooks.
He wrote an op-ed in the Financial Times of London on August 20th, and he said the subprime mortgage crisis demonstrates the serious negative economic and social consequences that result from too little regulation.
That's right.
If there were more regulations out there, this never would have happened.
And so they're thinking about trying to write more regulations.
Now, I, on my local show, have said for quite some time: hang on, mortgage people.
They're going to get you.
They're coming.
They're going to get you with more regulations, and they're coming your way, and they're coming pretty quick.
I have lived in the, like I said, for 30 years in the financial industry, and I've watched the regulations continue to grow and grow and grow.
We're a very, very heavily regulated industry.
But as a result of that, that you get a regulation when somebody does something bad.
Let me ask you something about more regulations when you go get a mortgage.
When you go down to the mortgage company to sign the papers to buy or sell a home, do you think there's not enough regulation?
Do you think what would help is some more paper in there for you to sign?
Is there anybody in this 20 million audience that has read every page of every document down at the mortgage company?
Because if so, send me your photo.
I want to put it up on the wall.
I've never met anybody that has.
It's a good idea, but they have killed regulation, made it totally ineffective by having over-regulation.
And Barney Frank, that's the difference between Dems and me.
He wants more of it.
We'll be right back.
Thanks, Johnny Donovan.
We're back.
Final half hour of today's program, and we have a big lineup coming for you the rest of the week.
I am talking about the world of money this last hour and poverty report coming out tomorrow.
The other story I think that all of us that have been working around money for any length of time know that the way this is all measured is a snapshot on the day that a Census Bureau person comes around and knocks on your door and you fill out the information.
They ask the questions, you fill out the information.
The Census Bureau updates this on an annual basis for this poverty report, but they don't do the extensive reporting they do every 10 years, but still it's a snapshot.
And they don't take names and they don't know if you were in poverty last report, but you're not now, or you are in poverty.
Yeah, or you are now, but you weren't then.
I mean, people come and go income-wise.
For somebody that retires, all of a sudden, their incomes, the W-2 income stopped, but they're living off of what?
Interest and dividends for a while.
Well, they don't have any income.
Oh, my gosh, they must be poor.
Stan in Placerville, California.
Hi, Stan.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
How are you doing, Tom?
Doing great.
Hey, Lucy, I was rather taken by your comment or their comment from the Census Bureau in regards to, and I consider myself, okay, they're saying that I'm poor.
However, six years ago, I bought a home and refinanced that home at a 15-year mortgage to where I've got nine years left on my mortgage to pay off.
I'm 55 years old.
I've got two cars, an 0-1 Corvette, and an 0-4 Altima.
And they're paid for.
And I consider myself not poor.
I consider myself average or a little bit above average because I see a lot of, in fact, on my street alone in Placerville, there are four homes listed for foreclosure.
And I just don't get it.
I don't get it at all.
That's the problem with these reports, it doesn't tell any of the story behind this.
It doesn't say anything more about the person that said that they were filling in the forms or answering the questions other than that snapshot.
And so you sit there and say, like I said, the person that retired, I was just looking for another piece.
Randall Hovind wrote a piece today, also, the American thinker, talking about the fact that last year his daughter graduated from college.
So she got a job and she moved into her own apartment.
So therefore, the combined, he says, what happened then is you see a decline in the median household income in the country.
It's a numbers game.
I mean, here's his daughter has moved out.
So even though the combined income of his family increased by his daughter's new income that she got a job when she moved out, they're now two households.
So you've got to divide that by two and you get lower income.
So, I mean, that's the problem with economic reporting is that you can make it say whatever you want to make it say.
So you've got to be very, very careful, and you have to look at these with a jaundiced eye.
Whenever you start getting these reports about poverty and who's poor and who's not, who qualifies for government programs based upon poverty, is getting to be a number that's getting a lot of eyebrows raised.
Joanne in Grand Junction, Colorado.
Hi, Joanne.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh Program.
Boy, I can't believe I got through.
This is terrific.
I just wanted to make a comment.
I was raised in a very, very poor family.
I could remember eating beans for lunch and beans for supper and beans for breakfast.
Yep.
My sister is a divorced woman who went on her own because she left home, left her husband for obvious, a lot of different reasons, but she got a scooter.
And that's the way she transported herself in order, and this was in the winter.
If I were going to be able to do that, like a moped thing, and I didn't have money for insurance, health insurance, I wouldn't have cable TV.
I wouldn't have a DVD player.
I wouldn't have an automatic dishwasher.
I wouldn't have two cars in my two-car garage home, no matter what the mortgage was.
My insurance, health insurance, would come first before all of these entertainment things that we all think we have to have.
I had a guy call my local show who was telling me about the fact, and it's true, there's one of the biggest causes of bankruptcies in this country is people that can't afford a medical bill because if you don't have insurance, you go to the hospital with a broken leg.
You know, it's 50 grand or some crazy number.
So I said to him, I said, well, why didn't you get health insurance?
Well, I can't afford it.
And he did exactly what you said, Joanne.
He said, well, but I've got this and I got that and I got the bills for the cars and I got the bills for the cable.
And I'm going, well, why don't you cut some of that stuff out and buy health insurance?
Wow.
If we think they're poor, they're not poor.
They're putting on a show so that they can get pity.
And I don't appreciate anybody that stands on the corner and wants pity.
It's not going to work for me.
Joanne, I did not eat beans for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, but my folks, my mother and father, both worked in a blue-collar, low-income neighborhood, and that's how I grew up.
I too, I think for those of us who came from not a lot of money, are very offended by people who claim that they are poor.
Because, first of all, there are some hardships, but there are also, it doesn't give you an excuse to be lazy.
It doesn't give you an excuse to be filthy.
It doesn't give you an excuse for a lot of reasons that people come up with just because they're poor.
So I have walked in, you know, my clothes were used.
My toys were used.
We shopped at the charity store.
I mean, so I don't like it either.
When I see somebody standing there with, I'm poor, give me money, I go, no, there's plenty of programs for you if you are truly needy.
The only two I care about, the only two I care about are people that are poor through no fault of their own because of illness or injury.
And with that, I am willing to help because it's not their fault that they don't have any money in their pocket.
Keith in Sacramento, Keith, hello, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hey, Tom, I know you're willing to help me out, man.
Could you tell me why the California governor and the legislature want to tax the employers and the doctors to pay for medical insurance?
I mean, these guys hire people and they save people.
I mean, it doesn't make sense, Tom.
I mean, how am I going to get a raise if you tax my employer to pay for somebody else who is not working?
I mean, I'm not going to get a raise, Tom.
I work for a great company, man, but I'm not in deep need for him to lose money to pay people who doesn't work for him.
All of these state programs, and yeah, California, there's another one in, of course, the Romney plan in Massachusetts.
A number of these things go out and do the pay or play mandated mandated coverage.
I have long thought the system is simple.
You go out and you, again, nobody is cut out of health care.
It's health care insurance.
You leave all of us alone that most of us in this country, heavy, heavy, heavy majority of us in this country, have health insurance.
One way or the other, we have it.
Why can't we cut out the middleman, the insurance people, and let us deal with the hospitals ourselves?
I mean, why have we got to pay money to insurance people just to make them happy?
Because we have gotten into this big HMO contracting where the contracts are with the hospitals and doctors through the HMOs, and so they pay the doctors and hospitals something like 17 cents on the dollar.
But Romney, the fact that Wall Street Journal today has Romney Care 2.0.
He's even looked at the plan that they had in Massachusetts and has gone off the reservation there and has gone on to a new form where he brought it out actually in the last presidential debate.
I know you were losing track of time when he debates, but it is a much better plan.
And in Florida, he laid out his plan for overhauling the health care system.
I think the key is to make it so that insurance companies can do business nationwide instead of only in a state.
You make it so that every insurance company can then spread the pool risk even further.
You identify those that do not, cannot afford health insurance, and you put up a program for them.
But for everybody else, these health savings accounts, I've talked about them before on this program, are the answer to so many.
Where how many of us pay the insurance premium either through our own pockets or through matching our employer's contribution?
And you wind up not using it at all.
And others will go in, and they always talk about the majority of your medical use will be done in the last six months of your life.
I look at it and say, I just want, I'll cover, give me like my auto insurance.
Give me a choice of how much I need to cover for my deductible.
I'll take the first thousand bucks.
But if I get hit with a $100,000 bill because I get in a car accident and I wasn't planning on getting in the car accident, but I need a lot of medical care and I got a $100,000 bill, my insurance company will cover everything above $1,000 or above $5,000 or above $10,000 or whatever number you think you can afford to cover yourself without going into bankruptcy.
That would substantially reduce the cost.
It would substantially reduce the whole health care problem.
It would give a lot of money to be able to help out, if we need to help out, those few who just cannot afford the major medical that's out there through a health savings account or a major medical deductible.
I mean, the problem is not that difficult.
It just seems like we haven't got to it.
And it's going to come fairly soon when the boomers start retiring and start looking for body parts to be replaced.
It's going to lead to a crisis.
And we don't do anything in this country, government-wise, until we're at a crisis.
We'll be back.
800-282-2882, Tom Sullivan in for Rush Limbaugh.
Welcome back, Tom Sullivan talking about money.
Rush will be back next week.
Tomorrow, Mark Belling from WISN Radio filling in tomorrow and Wednesday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
Wall Street Journal today, Romney Care 2.0, he's laid out his new health care plan, and it doesn't, it's not, even though I know he likes to point to Massachusetts plan and say, see, see, see what I did as governor?
Wasn't that great?
Well, guess what?
He doesn't take the Massachusetts model on this new proposal that he's laid out.
He's talking about getting rid of that mandated you must buy or else sanction on business.
He instead says change the tax code is one part of it.
Businesses are allowed to deduct the cost of providing health care to their employees.
Individuals cannot deduct health care insurance.
They should be able to.
I agree with him.
He would also offer incentives for health savings accounts.
Thank you.
Medical malpractice reform.
Thank you.
Turn today's Medicare Medicaid entitlements into federal block grants to states and let the states decide what they need to do with that money.
And in all fairness to Mayor Giuliani, he also has similar proposals, but he would allow for interstate insurance, which I think is very important to open that pool.
And Romney's plan would not.
So that way you do get a national pool.
It would cut the cost immediately, overnight.
Frank in Baltimore.
Hi, Frank.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi, Tom.
How are you today?
Doing great, sir.
Tom, I'm not a liberal.
Okay?
I just want to preface that.
All right, good.
I've been listening to Rush for 25 years, but in this area, I disagree with you guys wholeheartedly.
So, why?
Okay.
I made six-figure income prior to 9-11.
Buildings come down.
My job is gone.
I fire the 50 people that work for me, and then I have to fire myself.
I'm done.
I have no health insurance.
I'm an insulin-dependent diabetic.
I no longer make the six-figures.
I've got the house, the mortgage, the two cars, and the garage.
Yep.
What do I do?
Do I tell them to stop?
No, sorry, I can't pay your mortgage this month.
No, And Frank, you think you disagree with me, but I don't think so because you are exactly what I said earlier.
Illness or injury.
I think there is something in there where we should be able to say, look at right now you are being shut out of the market.
You can't buy it if you wanted to buy it.
And if you bought it, it would cost you two arms and a leg.
My medication costs me $600 a month, and it costs me $600 a month for my insurance for myself and my family.
What do I do?
Yeah, I know.
So there's where leave the people that have the insurance alone, incentivize them to health savings accounts, et cetera, et cetera.
I don't have a problem with having some sort of national coverage for people who cannot get the insurance themselves.
I don't have, but for I can get insurance, you shouldn't be requiring me to be part of some national government program mandating it.
But Tom, here's the rub, though, and take it from a business perspective.
The people who don't have insurance are normally the ones that are healthy.
Okay?
Yeah, yeah.
So, okay.
So if you add more healthy people to the mix, the law of large numbers works.
Yeah, but that's why it's number.
Okay.
That's why I say leave me alone.
I have insurance.
I will stay in the insurance game.
I will pay my premiums.
I will go through that whole process.
But for people who can't fit into that, most of us can.
Why use a cannonball to get the fly?
We're trying to cover everybody in the country when most people in the country have insurance.
Everything's working fine.
It's not for you.
You're the kind of guy that needs to have some sort of program.
I'm all for it.
It's look at this.
I don't know how it works in Maryland, but in California, we have this auto insurance business that takes care of people that have a driving record that's horrible that no insurance company wants to touch them.
So they go into this high-risk pool.
There's a system for it that is a government-run system for the small majority of people who can't fit into the normal system.
The rest of us go about buying our auto insurance.
So why can't you run health insurance like auto insurance?
Why can't you charge somebody that lives healthily and keeps within certain range and so forth?
Why don't you grade people?
We get graded on our credit.
We get graded on our driving record.
Why don't we get graded on our health?
The insurance policies would be written depending upon all those.
And for some of you, like you, Frank, in Baltimore, you can't afford it.
You're cut out of the market.
You lose your job.
I don't have a problem with having some sort of pool for you.
But why should I have to get into that same pool?
Why should everybody have to get into the risk pool together when, in fact, the risk pool should be for people who otherwise cannot afford it?
Short break.
Right back.
Tom Sullivan in on the Rush Limbaugh radio program.
Hello, poor people.
Well, it's a lot of us fit into that Census Bureau list.
I mean, a lot of us do.
So anyway, Frank and Old Forge PA.
Hi, Frank.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Tom, we do lick out all the illegal aliens to the next census, and we're paying for their kids' health care with the S-CHIP bill.
It's going to be terrible.
There's only one way to stop it, Tom.
This Saturday at noon, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania on the Capitol Steps, anti-illegal immigration rally.
What are you expecting at the state capital?
You expecting you better get.
You know, some of these protesters that are out protesting things sometimes get as many as 12 people.
You're going to get more than that?
We're expecting.
This is the time with Hazelton, and the ACLU should be there.
The group putting it on is VoiceofthepeopleUSA.com.
This is our seventh rally.
All right, great.
Harrisburg, when is it?
When?
Saturday?
Saturday at noon to Saturday.
All right.
All you folks in the Pennsylvania area, there you go for your Saturday.
Hey, thanks for riding along with me today, tomorrow.
And on Wednesday, Mark Belling will be in from WISN Radio to be filling in.
So have yourself a good rest of the week.
Rush will be back on Monday, and it'll have all kinds of golf stories.
And maybe he saw the protesters on the ferry.
Have a good day.
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