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July 12, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 12, 2007, Thursday, Hour #2
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That's exactly right.
Why should the Brecht girl get all of thunder?
Why should he get all the credit for this poverty tour that he is going to launch on Monday in New Orleans?
Hell.
I'm going to do my own poverty tour this afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Greetings and welcome.
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And both would happen.
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That's right.
I'm going to do my own poverty tour and I'm going to do it today.
I'm not going to wait till Monday and I'm not going to go to New Orleans.
I'm just going to cross the bridge.
I have to go to the airport later today.
And my route is going to take me.
If I just make a two-block detour from the main drag, my route will take me past poverty.
And I'm going to drive by, and I'm going to look at it, and I'm going, no, I won't get out that far to Snerdly's Place.
No, it's real, just across the bridge.
And then I'll drive by, slow down a little bit, look out both sides of the car, see what I see.
And on Monday, when I get back, I'll report in on my poverty tour.
And I'll let you know if, in fact, I'll take the poverty tour Monday morning again before coming back and see if anything I did by driving through there.
Because I'm going to drive through with a pretty nice car.
It might inspire people to get out of poverty.
You never know.
I'll go back on Monday on my way to work.
I'll take a big detour.
I don't have to cross the bridge to get to work, but I'll do that on Monday.
I'll take my second tour, so I'll get two poverty tours in before the Brett girl even gets his started.
And I'll get the same results he does.
Also, you know, they've released some more Nixon tapes.
And it's amazing when you go through the excerpts of the tapes.
Nixon was a firebrand.
He wanted to bury these Democrats.
And he was mad because the Republicans were too polite.
And you read these things and you realize there isn't much that's changed.
There really isn't.
The way the press treats Republicans, the way Republicans react to it and deal with it or don't deal with it.
But there's an excerpt from my friend Roger Ailes, who's the CEO of Fox News Channel.
And apparently Nixon was somewhere walking a rope line.
It was a public reception or something.
And Ailes was watching it on TV and flashed off a memo to Haldeman.
He said, hey, you got to get him to pay more attention to his wife.
There's a couple of times he just left her stranded out there on the rope line.
The updated version of that memo today would be, make sure you get some interns on that rope line.
So your wife won't even be with you on the rope line.
Okay, let's see.
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I have to apologize.
I didn't see the note.
Tony Snow, welcome to the program.
How long have you been on hold?
I'm doing fine.
Good to be here, Rob.
Good.
How long have you been on hold?
Sorry, I've made.
No, I've just been on hold.
It's just been a matter of seconds.
Just got here.
Okay, great.
Tony, I thought the interim report today, and I know you're going to be talking about this, but I thought there's so much good in this.
And I spent the first hour, the first segment of the first hour, giving a big shout-out to the troops because they deserve it.
They're doing yeoman's work.
They've only been at full strength for a month over there in the surge, and they need the great shout-out.
I thought the president was fabulous today.
What should everybody know about these benchmarks in this interim report?
Well, a couple of things.
First, let me back up.
The interim report is the beginning of a new kind of surge, and it's a surge of facts.
Because what's happened with a lot of the war in Iraq, as you know, Rush, is that people get pictures of dead bodies, but they don't get any sense of what's actually going on in the ground.
And today you got a little bit of that in terms of this interim report that says, even though just a couple of weeks ago, even though when they were writing this report, we are just getting our last forces into place.
If you take a look at the plan for Iraq, which was get your security picture first, then move on to political progress, guess what you find out?
You find out that we've had a lot of success in security.
Not only have the Iraqis stepped up, they've got three brigades in Baghdad.
They've got stations now in all 10 districts in Baghdad.
We have seen a dramatic reversal in the thought processes of Iraqis in places like Anbar province because all of a sudden they realized that they had a choice to go after al-Qaeda.
And the moment they realized that somebody had their back, what did they do?
They joined up with us.
They went after Al-Qaeda.
They're doing it in Diala province.
They're doing it in sections of Baghdad.
In other words, people are responding the way you would think, which is you give them a little bit of security.
They're going to follow their natural yearning to be free.
So you're absolutely right.
The most important part of this report is the security piece.
What you're likely to hear is a lot of people going, well, they haven't made the political benchmarks.
Well, we've always said that politics would come after security.
And it is.
At some point, the Iraqis do have to make a lot of the accommodations so that the Iraqis look at their government as being their legitimate representative.
They look at each other as neighbors rather than as feuding sects.
And all that stuff is going to happen.
But the first thing you've got to do is you've got to go after the bad guys who are going in and beheading kids and destroying farms and threatening families.
These are invaders from these are al-Qaeda invaders, many of whom come through Syria.
And it's now time for the American people to wake up to really the heroic achievements of our forces.
Let me ask you a question about the political side of this because I must admit that I made some comments on this in the first hour.
But these benchmarks have been set up by Congress.
We've got a Congress right now run by the Democrats for seven and a half months, six and a half months.
You talk about their benchmarks.
They're one out of seven.
They're not doing anything but harassing you people in the White House.
They're doing nothing.
300 investigations in 100 days.
And yet here they are trying to tell this fledgling democracy in parliament what to do and how soon to do it when they can't get anything done of any substance themselves.
Well, they'd certainly rather investigate than legislate, wouldn't they?
And they've been trying for seven months to drag the Attorney General across the coals, and they can't get anything on them, but they're still doing hearings.
And I think you're right about that.
I also think that the reason we need a surge in facts is a lot of members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, they go back home and people say, get out of that war.
It's a terrible war.
Well, that's because all they see is a failure narrative that gets played out on their TV screens.
On the other hand, when they start getting a glimpse of what our folks are doing, I think they're going to change their minds.
They're going to say, well, wait a minute.
These people are on a mission that is going to make us freer and safer in the long run, and that it's going to be the once and for all refutation of terror.
Americans don't want to fail.
They don't want to leave in humiliation.
They don't want to give bin Laden any talking points.
And so I think we've got an opportunity over the next couple of months not merely to lay out what's going on, but also General Petraeus and Ambassador Kroc are going to have time also to assemble.
And by the way, these guys are not doing political shilling.
This is a very realistic report, and they'll give you a snapshot.
They'll tell you what's been achieved in the last two months.
Americans want to win, ultimately.
And the president said it today.
He said, look, all they want to know is that we're in this to win, and we've got a plan for winning.
And now it's time for us to step up here at the White House and around the country and people to say, okay, we're going to take a look at the benchmarks for victory, not for getting out.
We are talking with Tony Snow, the White House press secretary.
Do something for me, for my audience.
Define victory.
Victory is an Iraqi government where everybody's got their rights, where people can start earning a living.
They can start planning not on how you fight against al-Qaeda, but how you build a peaceful future.
It is not a total absence of terror because the terrorists are going to keep trying to go after it.
But it's basically an Iraq where the Iraqis take control of the key things, their security, their economy, their future.
And the ability to resist an attempt by Al-Qaeda and Iran to take over the country.
Absolutely.
Part and parcel of security.
And look, we're going to be there.
We're going to have their back.
It's interesting.
Yeah, you know, the dirty little secret is that if, if, and this is a hypothetical, if a Democrat wins a White House in 08, they're not pulling the troops out of it.
They will not.
Of course not.
You know, you see this all the time, Rush, which is on the political stump.
People go out and they say stuff that they know just isn't true.
American people want somebody to say, we're going to leave the war and we're going to have peace.
They know perfectly well that if we leave, what you're going to have is the equivalent of a detonation where terror is going to start emanating out from Iraq.
It's going to gobble up the Middle East.
It's going to go to North Africa.
It's going to go to Europe.
It's going to go to Pakistan.
And sooner or later, it's going to wash up on our shore and it's going to be a big problem.
They know this.
And so it is absolutely irresponsible for anybody to think that you pull out of the fight before you win because if you don't, the American people and the whole world are huge losers.
Well, but my point is, politically, the Democrats are misleading.
Would love to lose this war, but they'd love that loss to be hung around the president's neck.
But they're not going to, if they are running the country at 08, they are not going to pull out of there and cause defeat and have it associated with them.
The troops are not coming out of there until the situation you described is established.
Exactly right.
And you know what?
One of the things I like about working for this president, he understands this.
And what's he trying to do?
He is trying to give the next president, Democrat or Republican, the tools to win.
One of the things he mentioned today is you ought to upgrade your surveillance programs, the FISA law, so that you can make sure if there are people plotting to kill us, then we can find out who they are and we can go after them.
I mean, we've got to make sure that we modernize the law so we can do everything we can to protect the American people.
He's putting all that stuff in place.
He's creating a great big anti-terror toolbox for the next president of the United States because you know what?
El-Qaeda isn't going to change just because there's an election, and the next president's going to need the tools.
Tony, thanks for your time.
How are you doing personally?
I am doing great.
It's great to be back on.
You sound great.
You sound like you're full of vim and vigor, as they said in the 60s.
Yeah, vim and vigor.
Well, look, man, I'm motivated.
This is really important.
And you know me, Rush, I never balk from a good fight.
No, you never have.
Never have.
Well, we appreciate your time.
It's always nice to have you.
And I'm sorry we got to you late.
That's okay.
Thanks, my friend.
Tony Snow at the White House.
We'll take a brief time out and be right back after this.
Hi, welcome back.
We're doing Open Line Friday on Thursday, ladies and gentlemen, 800-282-2882.
If you'd like to join us, this is Chris in Kansas City, Missouri.
Nice to have you on the program.
Hey, Stroud's Chicken Dittos from KC.
Oh, man, you're making my mouth water, especially since I can't have any of that right now.
Listen, I just had a couple of quick points, two quick points to make about Iraq.
You know, President Bush talked about the war fatigue earlier today, and the American people can't really have war fatigue right now because they haven't made any sacrifices.
The American people are suffering from.
You know what?
That's an excellent point.
But the president meant, because he also talked about the psychology of the American people.
What he's referring to as war fatigue, they're sick and tired of seeing news that shows us losing.
They're sick and tired of a drumbeat of negativity, and they don't want to hear that anymore.
They want to win or get out if we're going to lose.
That's what the president was talking about.
Well, also, you know, we'd be in a much better position to deal with Iran and Syria right now if the Democrats would have just supported this thing in Iraq.
Because the threat is not going to be enough to deter them now.
Now they're going to have to use force there, too.
Well, more than likely, that's one of the problems that this fatigue is going to lead to, is because this is not the last front we're going to have to face this threat.
Yeah, but this fatigue is not real fatigue.
It's just propaganda.
We're just all this negativity that the Democrats are.
And we haven't made any sacrifices here.
The military families and the military have been making sacrifices, and they're not fatigued.
They're ready to finish this job.
I understand that.
I understand it totally.
You say they haven't had to make any sacrifices.
I talk about the fact we have so much affluence in this country that people don't have to pay attention to it if they don't want to.
Their action's not required in order for the war effort to move on.
We're both saying the same thing.
But do you disagree that there is a feeling of unsettledness among a lot of people over the fact that this war has not seemed to move off the dime in four years?
Now, I understand that most people understand that wars don't have timetables and so forth, but the perception is there hadn't been any progress.
That it's because of what they're being told.
It's because of the misinformation and the drive-by media, but that still creates a reality, even though it's based in propaganda.
That's true.
But, you know, the Islamists has always said that, you know, we'll just get tired and go away if they just wait us out.
Right.
And we've got to prove that that's not right.
Well, you know, that is going to depend on who the president is.
Did you watch the president today, the whole thing?
Pretty much.
Well, you know, he's not.
He's not going to give up.
He's not going to quit.
He's not going to draw down.
He's not going to reduce the ability we have to win this thing, especially with the security side of the interim report that was released today.
He made it clear he's not going to focus group this.
He's not going to listen to the polls on this.
He doesn't have that luxury.
He's just showing he has a lot of class.
He's willing to take a hit on his approval ratings to get the job done over there.
Right.
Because as he said, he wants to look in the mirror when he's back home in Crawford after his presidency is over and not be embarrassed.
He wants to be able to look at himself in the mirror and said he did everything he did because it was the right thing to do and out of principle.
He's not going anywhere on this.
So the American people can sit there and be fatigued all they want.
Let them take it out on the Democrats.
Jim, because he's not running for re-election.
Jim in Colorado Springs, you're next.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Rush, thanks for taking my call.
I enjoy your show, and I agree with you on your take on issues 96.5% of the time.
Yeah, And since I found out that you're running everything and know all, as an old retired Marine officer, not related to Mirtha, I had to call you, and I don't want to add to an air of redundancy, but I had a question-slash point.
The question that I had, you just asked Tony Snow at 1.20 your time.
And that's what constitutes victory in Iraq.
Well, what do you think of his answer?
The answer parallels the policy of President Bush's, the administration's position on the issue.
And President Bush said this morning at the press conference that he had considered going a political, pursuing a political solution by going to the UN, which I consider the U.N. a necessary evil, but generally you.
But he did.
But see, he was responding to Helen Thomas, who made an accusation.
And her accusation was, don't you realize that Al-Qaeda is in Iraq as you?
And he says, no, we tried to solve this diplomatically.
And they did.
They picked her bag up on the floor at the press club one day.
a year and a half.
Rush, I think the...
Tell you what, Hey, Jim, hang on here.
I want to know what you thought of Tony Snow's answer and definition of victory, but I've got to take quick time out.
Back here in just a second.
Running America, an untamed member of the GOP message machine, untamed member, as dubbed me by the Washington Post.
All right, back now to Colorado Springs and Jim.
Jim, just tell me, what did you think?
Because I know you've got a problem here with the definition of victory.
What do you think of the way Tony Snow defined it?
Well, I think it's cohesive.
Well, that's not exactly the right word.
I think it follows a pattern.
A person, the victory means that an Iraqi can get a job, pursue life, have freedom, a government that's functioning.
And that seems to be the goal.
Having been an advisor in Vietnam, and I'm in no way trying to make any parallels, a lot of the songs that are being sung today I've heard before.
And the problem is, and I'll make a quick deal.
You remember the film Lawrence of Arabia?
Yeah, but I saw it a long time ago.
And just to remember that.
Remember when Lawrence was being taken out to the chieftain, he was sent on a fool's errand anyway by the British, who created Iraq, by the way, out of three parts.
But Lawrence was being escorted out by individual to the chieftain that he was warlord that he was going to coordinate with.
And they stopped at Waterhole and they drank a little water, and then out over the horizon comes Omar Sharif and his black horse and a black turban and a whole bit.
and he takes a gun and shoots the escort to Lawrence, you know.
I, look it, I'm...
You haven't got time.
No!
No, I just want you to, you obviously, I want you to focus.
You have a problem with, do you think we can win?
Is that where you're headed?
You don't think we can win there?
I think that the problem, I'll tell you, some of the crap that's coming out of Congress right now, I can't believe the word.
But the thing is, the people, the individual American people, if they had an answer that they could give, how are we going to win?
We're not fighting a set-piece war over there, right?
And a lot of people have a misconception.
Let's try this.
I am noted as the most polite host in America.
I know, you give me too much time already.
Well, because you were an advisor.
Who did you advise in Vietnam?
Just a name.
A name?
Like, did you advise Lyndon Johnson?
No, I was a military advisor in Vietnam to the Vietnamese.
Oh, that's right.
They were advising you guys on how to run the war back in Vietnam.
All right.
Do you think we can win?
Yes or no?
Yes or no?
Can we win?
Yes or no.
We have to turn it into an advisory effort because General Petraeus and any active duty, unless General Petraeus, which I have no doubt that he's going to do an excellent job with his report, no active duty general is going to tell the president anything other than what he wants to hear.
Now, I have to.
Jim, you are making me feel married all over again.
Hey, don't, you and my wife.
She listens to you more than I do.
But the thing is, we've got to get the hell out of there.
Do you want to win?
Do you want to win?
I want to win.
All right.
If you want to win and you're a retired Marine, that means we will.
Because people like you are in charge of this over there.
I appreciate the call.
Thank you very much.
Where are we going next?
Cheyenne, Wyoming.
This is Julie.
Julie, welcome to the EIB Network.
Hi, we haven't talked to you for about 15 years.
That's when we first heard you.
We lived out in California at the time.
And we want to change the subject a little bit because we want to have you become the first recycler of some of your great stuff.
And that is gorebasms.
Instead of doing for Gorbachev, we want you to turn it into a gore basma all this earth-first stuff and the global warming stuff.
We want you to start using it again.
The theme?
Yeah, the theme.
That's a tempting idea.
Start making fun of gore by recycling update themes and putting them to different subjects and so forth.
But I don't know.
The gorbasm theme, it's just so perfect for Gorbachev and the old Soviet Union and so forth.
But I like the idea.
I think it's a clever idea, recycle update theme.
I'll think about that.
Julie, thanks much.
I appreciate it.
Speaking of gorebasms and so forth, have you seen this?
Scientists on the U.S. Pacific coast are increasingly observing emaciated gray whales in what they fear is a sign that global warming is wreaking havoc in the whale's Bering Sea summer feeding grounds.
The scientists fear that the same phenomenon is cutting back reproduction in the Pacific whale population to the point that the whale population could be facing a new crisis after recovering in the mid-90s and graduating from the endangered species list.
The gray whales are migrating later.
They're not going as far north.
They are producing fewer calves.
How do these people know this?
Do we have sensitive instruments?
Do we have submarines?
Somebody tell me, are we down there counting the number of these things?
Are we watching every birth?
Do we know where every gray whale on the face of the well, do we know where every gray whale under the face of the earth is?
Do we know how many they are?
They're losing weight.
The headline, warming causing gray whales to lose weight.
That's, frankly, folks, that's insane.
Warming causing whales to lose weight.
This is actually good news.
We all want to lose weight.
If it's causing the whales to lose weight, maybe you and I will lose weight because of warming.
But do we know?
You know, I got a note from Roy Spencer today, the climate specialist, University of Alabama at Huntsville.
And he says, you know, the one thing that they can't model, and his expertise is in precipitation and the effect that it has on warming.
And it's not in the models either because we don't have accurate measures of daily rainfall in all the world.
We cannot tell ourselves.
We cannot learn.
We do not know how much it rains where.
Everywhere on this planet.
We do not know.
And if you don't know that, and if precipitation is a factor in global warming, then the models that are showing us all this stuff is worthless.
Another thing is clouds.
If you want to send a meteorologist into a tizzy, ask them about clouds.
Ask them what the cloud cover tomorrow is going to be anywhere.
And they can't tell you.
Do you know how little is known about clouds?
Now, Roy's note to me said that if there were a just 1% change in cloud cover on a consistent basis, the impact on temperature on the surface would be affected pretty profoundly.
But since we can't measure cloud cover either, I mean, we can look at it on the satellites and so forth, but we can't predict it.
We don't know what, you know, we know what causes clouds, but we can't make one when we want to, and we can't move them around when we want to, and we can't get rid of them when we want to.
It's a giant mystery.
So, you know, do we know?
Do we know how many gray whales are out there?
Do we know how many calves are being born?
Who are these?
I want to see the proof of this.
How could it be that just 10 years ago in the mid-90s, they graduated from the endangered species list, and now all of a sudden they're threatened again?
What the hell happened here?
Global warming wasn't happening 10 years ago.
It had to be happening.
They've been warning about it since 1979 when they threw aside the global cooling crisis.
Now, this is the kind of stuff that shows up in the news.
Oh, mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy, the gray whales are just a great babies.
What are we going to do?
It's our fault.
People run around saying, oh, these kids are going to worry about gray whale cartoons now.
And if there's a scientist out there that can tell me that there are cold, hard, factual numbers on the numbers of gray whales and where they are and when they're having babies and how many they're having and which babies are making it and which babies are not.
Are they having any abortions?
Does every gray whale mom want to give birth?
How do we know any of this?
For sure.
Maybe we do, but this story does not tell us.
They just have the scientists asserting this.
They're getting smaller.
They're not traveling as far north and they're not having as many cabs.
Must be true.
It's in the Drive-By Media.
Hi, we are back.
Rush Limbaugh with half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair to Orlando.
This is Adam.
Adam, I'm glad you called, sir.
How are you doing?
I just wanted to make two real quick points.
I know your time is valuable.
I'm a second lieutenant in the Florida Army National Guard, and just about the war.
A couple of things.
First thing is, when you make a decision to go to war, you go to war and you win it.
There's no questions about that.
You've got to give the military the tools that they need to do it and butt out to those politicians.
Politicians make the decision to go to war, generals fight wars.
Second point, the least that you can do once the decision has been made is to support us while we're there.
It is incredibly demoralizing when you hear politicians come out and just, you know, one thing when Harry Reid came out and started saying the war is lost, the war is lost, and this whole thing started happening.
I mean, I can't tell you, it has an effect.
Once the decision's been made, and as far as I know, almost everyone who's running for president right now signed off on that decision, the least you can do in exchange for the sacrifice that everyone else is giving to go over there and do it is to at least support us while we're there.
That's all I wanted to say.
Amen.
Amen.
And a lot of Americans do.
The thing about Harry Reid, this is I was listening to you, the thing about Harry Reid that is curious to me.
I mean, he can say what he says, and he did say it.
I don't know how widely reported in the Drive-By Media it was, meaning, was it all over cable news at night?
Did it make the three network newscasts at night?
But it's troubling, ladies and gentlemen, that there was so little outrage among the American people over that.
I mean, here is the United States Senator, the majority leader, proclaiming defeat, waving the white flag of surrender.
We can't win, he said.
We have lost.
This should have elicited in a sane political environment.
He should have been greeted with condemnation three to four times that all those people got during the illegal immigration debate.
Tom in Richmond, Virginia, thank you for waving your next EIB network.
Good afternoon, Rush.
Thank you, sir.
Many, many dittos.
Appreciate that.
I'm a Korean war veteran, and I think it's just timely to remind young listeners that a political decision to settle the Korean War with a truce rather than victory has left us with nearly 57 years of presence in South Korea and the same communist regime in North Korea as it was in 1950.
We lost 54,000 Americans in two and a half years there, not 3,000, 54,000.
And we're still there with armed forces, and the communists are still there.
And so your point is this is the result when you do not secure.
When you don't win, right.
Yeah, that was a politically engineered truce.
No one complained about 54,000 deaths because the U.N. authorized our effort there.
Somehow that settled the liberals.
But today they criticize.
Well, it had to get royaled at some point, otherwise we wouldn't have had the truce.
I mean, you talked about the parallels.
There had to be some unrest among the American people over the lack of progress for all the years that we were there.
And hence we got this truce claiming victory.
I forget how it was termed, but we are there, still there in the DMZ.
Yes.
So the truce didn't settle anything.
We're still dealing with the North Korean communists and the nuclear threat that they have.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I'm glad you called, Tom.
I appreciate that.
There are consequences to losing.
And this is for some reason, and I don't know how widespread this is, but for some reason, there are a number of people.
I know a lot of Democrats over there in the Congress.
You know, actually, they don't believe this.
They have to know.
It's just that they don't care.
They have to know that pulling out of there would be disastrous.
They have to know it.
And I think the only reason they would love for it to happen is so they could tag Bush with that defeat.
But I don't know they have been on the march proclaiming defeat, owning defeat.
They've been wanting us to lose.
It's not just that they have been proclaiming it.
They've been desirous of it.
They've been excited and eager about the concept of losing.
And some people, because of their irresponsible behavior, some of the people listening to them actually believe that if we were just tomorrow, would then start the next three months and bring back everybody, that somehow it would be Garden of Edentime and it would be fun and roses and there would be no problems.
We could go back and there wouldn't be any angst.
There wouldn't be any threats.
There wouldn't be any danger.
It wouldn't be any risk.
Meanwhile, that part of the world has the proven reserves of oil, which I don't care what anybody thinks about it.
The world's not going to be doing without it anytime soon.
To just abandon and walk out of there and turn that hell hole into five to ten times worse than it is now.
It's something that boggles the mind.
And you compare this with what went on in North Korea and so forth.
We are still there after all of these years with a truce.
Didn't secure victory.
And yet, since there are no hostilities that have been declared and there's no combat taking place, the anti-war crowd's not saying, get out of Korea, get out of Korea.
But largely, this is political anyway, this bring the troops home.
The Democrat kooks are who they are, but the Democrats, like I told Tony Snow, if they do happen to win the White House, I will guarantee you they are not going to bring the troops home.
They are not going to secure defeat while they are in charge of it.
They'll not do it, and they won't do it also because they know the disaster that it would be.
Back in a sec.
Try this headline.
It's a Reuters story, ladies and gentlemen.
Fat tax could save 3,200 lives a year.
And then the story, a well-designed, carefully targeted fat tax.
Have you ever seen a well-designed, carefully targeted tax of any kind that worked?
Cigarette, no, cigarette taxes don't do what cigarette taxes, what do they do?
What do they accomplish?
They didn't get people to quit smoking.
It didn't happen.
And try this headline.
Well, it's not the headline.
It's a mystery that has Wall Street debating such terms as birth, death, and illegal immigration.
Why haven't more U.S. construction jobs vanished in the wake of the housing market meltdown?
Much of the attention is focused on complex forecasting models and polls that the government uses to track employment.
But some economists, some economists say that undocumented workers, illegal aliens, are quietly bearing the brunt of the layoffs in the building sector.
Oh, no.
Illegals are bearing the brunt of the slowdown in the housing markets.
Unfair Americans should be suffering.
My friend, this is not.
We are so mean.
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