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June 25, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 25, 2007, Monday, Hour #2
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Actually, I changed my mind.
I I want to start with one, two, and three, and then we'll get to those others.
You got that?
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Now, this immigration bill, folks, if passed, as is, uh, would have far reaching effects on our nation for decades to come.
Now we've heard uh audio sound bites today from uh Trent Lott and from uh Senator Feinstein, and I'm sure that Senator McCain, Senator Lindsay, Gramnesty all feel the same way.
That uh we just don't know what's in it.
You don't know what's in it, and we and we and talk radio don't know what's in it, and you're just a bunch of uninformed extremist boobs who were getting in the way of them doing their job.
Meanwhile, their approval rating, their I mean, Congress, everybody talks about how low Bush's numbers are.
Congress's approval ratings are in the tank.
And it's not for the reasons that the analysts here think it is.
Most people think uh most of these, the people that follow government and think that government's the end all, the beginning and end of everything, think that when congressional numbers are low, it's because they're not passing the immigration bill, or they're not getting this legislation done.
Because all of these people that are government watchers sit there and they define everything that's good or bad by virtue of what happens with government.
Now, you and I, people who make the country work, have to do what we do in many cases in spite of what government does.
The reason that Congress is at a 19% approval number, or whatever it is, or even lower than that, is because people are fed up with what they are trying to do, not with what they're not doing.
There is a new level of sophistication on the part of you.
Uh, the American voter.
And you understand that they do things that are bad and damaging, and uh they place obstacles in our way, but everybody that watches government thinks is so upset over what they're not doing.
Meanwhile, when they analyze Bush's low numbers, it's because the American public is very sophisticated.
And the American public very aware, very informed, not boobs at all.
Why they understand that Bush is horrible, that Bush isn't listening to them on a rock and Bush isn't doing this, I'll guarantee you Bush's position on immigration's hurting him every bit as much as is uh Iraq position is with the uh liberals and the leftists uh in this country.
But isn't it amazing how informed you are when you uh give the president a low number and what a bunch of boobs you are when you give Congress a low number?
Now, guess who happens to be running the White House?
A Republican.
Guess who happens to be running Congress?
Democrats.
So of course it's not their fault.
It's your fault for being impatient.
They're not doing enough when it's not the case at all.
They keep telling us we don't know what's in the bill, but they haven't made any effort to tell us what's in the bill.
They just tell us we're a bunch of fools and idiots because we don't know.
We probably know more about what's in the bill than they ever intended us to know.
But I'd like to turn it around.
You know, we have the No Child Left Behind Act to make sure that our little crumb crunchers out there properly educated.
Well, as a man who's running America, I would like to institute the no senator left behind test.
If it's important to measure the learning of fourth graders, shouldn't we see how much or how little our senators know some days there's no difference between them and your average fourth grader?
How much do they really know about this bill itself?
How much do they know about the fine print, the details uh that say one thing but mean something entirely different?
They say the fence will come first.
This is how they're trying to get us to come on board.
The fence will come first.
Well, what does that mean?
Does it mean the fence will be authorized first or built first?
Does it mean that it will be started?
And does it mean it'll be finished?
I can sit here and tell you folks uh uh they're gonna do that fence thing first, and it could mean any number of things.
Could mean they're gonna talk about it first, could mean they're gonna pass that first, but are they actually going to do anything toward building it?
Our intelligence, guided by experience on that issue alone, says no.
There already is money for offense, and is there a fence?
Nope.
And when they were building the fence, the illegals were doing it.
Probably putting escape hatches in it.
Or entry hatches.
Hell, they found a tunnel.
Police in Tijuana have discovered a narrow tunnel under the border that was used to smuggle drugs and possibly possibly undocumented migrants into the United States.
More than 50 tunnels under the U.S. Mexico border have been discovered since the surveillance was increased following 9-11, prompting drug smugglers to go underground to avoid detection.
The latest was discovered inside an area guarded by Treasury Department officials.
Guarded by officials.
Where goods to be imported from California into Mexico are held depending paperwork.
Officials were investigating how the tunnel, which is 32 feet long, it's about two feet wide, about three feet high, was able to operate so close.
This just says it all.
Officials were investigating how the tunnel was able to operate so close to where federal officials were on duty.
Right.
It is a very good question.
So how is any other element of enforcement in this bill, if there is to be one, uh, going to be worth anything?
How about this?
When you talk about the fence, will all of the state, city, and local regulations, environmental impact studies be nailed down?
Or will they be used as a stalling tactic?
So where Senator Lott, Senator Graham says, hey, we promised you we were going to do the fence first, but look what we ran into.
Why, we had uh impact studies, environmental impact studies that we had to do that, of course, we'll protect the environment.
We uh uh state, city, local regulations are different.
Every county you get into at every city, it's a monumental task.
We'll build that fence, but we've got to move on with the other elements of the bill.
And they've in their minds not lied.
They did it first.
Didn't accomplish it in the example that uh that I give you.
The other thing that they're doing, another thing they're trying to do to uh ear mark us.
You know, I we need another word for earmarks.
You know what earmarks are constituent bribes.
And there are a lot of constituent bribes in this immigration bill, the fence being done first.
Here's another one.
They say the bill will increase merit-based immigration, more skilled workers, uh, more professionals, more engineers, less laborers.
But do the senators who are telling us this know when that kicks in?
Well, the no senator left behind test would tell us.
And I, Rush Limbaugh running America, will institute this test.
Do you know when it kicks in?
Do you not do you know when it kicks in?
I'll get to that in a second.
Do you know when that provision kicks in, the merit-based immigration provision?
Uh does it kick in in one year?
Does it kick in in two years?
Uh best I can find kicks in at eight.
Maybe it's six, I'm not sure which.
Uh, but uh I'm not even sure if it's still in there.
That's the thing.
We don't know if it's still in there.
They're talking about putting this in all these amendments that are designed to bribe us, will probably never pass anyway.
But that's how these senators who are reluctant to vote for this bill are gonna be brought on board.
We'll let you submit your amendment.
We'll let you put your amendment to the bill and we'll vote on the amendments, and then the amendments, most of them will not uh pass.
And here's people have been asking, how can the Republicans fall for this?
How is it the Republicans don't understand?
A, why their own voters are upset, and B, why this is bad legislation.
Thanks to the family unity clause, here's um here's the deal on the table.
And if you think it's absurd, you are right.
Democrats will allow, uh, in quotes, fifteen million illegals to become legal if the Republicans will allow those 15 million to bring in their family members, giving us 30 to 45 million, or who knows how many million.
Now, I know that sounds absurd, but that's that that's a deal a Republicans made.
Are are our senators smart enough to negotiate with these clowns?
And the father of modern immigration, by the way, is Ted Kennedy, who hasn't been he's he's really shepherded this thing since the 60s.
And he's been wrong at every turn.
He's been wrong every time they uh they tried legislation on this.
As to this uh this this provision, uh the bill will increase merit-based immigration, there'll be more skilled workers, professionals, engineers, less laborers.
Who's gonna tell the laborers this?
Who's gonna tell the low skilled, uneducated laborer, hey, by the way, uh less of you people coming in in six years or whenever who's gonna tell and who's gonna enforce this?
They have no intention to enforce.
Well, you have to understand, and I'm sure you do, is that the the whole point of this is to have a uh a steady flow of low-wage workers, and low wage workers are low skilled uh and uh uh either uneducated or poorly educated.
Uh and that's that's that's what I guess these people have decided the United States of America needs to remain the world's lone superpower, as I love to say, if uh a steady stream of low-income, low educated,
or uneducated workers, low skill workers was the key to a thriving, prosperous economy, Mexico and a number of third world countries would be leading the United States in every economic measure you would take.
Let me ask the question, Sanana.
You're just confusing me.
Hi, uh, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
Those of you on hold, be patient.
We will get to you El Quico, uh little immigration lingo there.
You've got to hear this if you have not already heard it.
On Univision's LA based morning radio show.
Uh was it uh I don't know how you've pronounced the guys, the P I O L I N. P. Oldin, I'm not sure how you pronounce it.
Anyway, this the host had his guest, Senator Kennedy, the swimmer.
Senator Kennedy was there to discuss discuss immigration reform, but during the appearance he broke into a rendition of uh song called Don't Give Up on Me, singing it in Spanish.
Shall I sing my song?
Yes, why not?
Okay.
Jalisco, Jalisco, Jalisco, tu tenes tu novia, me guadalara.
Muchacha bonita, la perla es más raja.
In all the music is my Guarala.
The music is not going to be a song.
Pesar Amor Cantor cantalor Abrir todo el pecho Echar este grito Que lindo es el disco Palabra Oh no.
Hey, Senator!
Watch it the second.
You are a great singer.
Well, I thank you.
I thank you for that wonderful tribute.
And more importantly, I thank you for your soul and your heart.
And we are not going to let you down, my friend.
So this is on the number one rated uh uh Spanish language radio station in uh uh Los Angeles, Senator Kennedy.
Uh this is uh indescribable.
I mean, this this this is this is almost as funny as when Senator Kennedy was, you know, uttering those syllables that we still don't know what words he was trying to form.
Um let's see now, this was uh this was uh when what day was this?
Did this happen?
You know, I I would be inclined to say that this happened after Happy Hour started, but the problem is that this is a morning radio show.
Uh but I guess you know all things are possible.
You just heard the guy who is single-handedly pushing well, not single-handedly, he's got some help of the White House, but he's the guy, he's been the godfather of this whole effort to uh to bring as many illegals in and grant them amnesty since the 1960s.
And he has been wrong at every turn, and he's appearing now on Spanish language radio stations thanking them uh for all of the help and For their their heart and soul.
Yesterday he was on uh uh this week with George Stephanopoulos, who asked Senator Kennedy, are you confident that there are enough Republicans on board to pass the immigration deal this week?
The reason we were going to pass this bill is because it's tough, fair, and practical.
It's tough on the border.
We have put 4.4 billion dollars into border security and stop the tape a second.
Stop the tape.
We spend that much on rubber bands, I'll bet you at the federal government.
We st rubber bands, 4.4 billion paper clips.
4.4 billion for border security.
Commitment to border security in the history of this country.
Secondly, it is tough in work site uh enforcement, the most vigorous work site enforcement in the history uh of this uh uh country.
And finally, we will have a tamper-proof card to make sure that we can really have an effective uh immigration policy.
Stop this.
Stop this.
This is how it's done, huh?
They come up with a bill and he says all this is gonna happen.
Just like that.
Snap of the fingers.
Comprehensive border security.
We're gonna have workplace enforcement.
Don't you know those people are gonna love that job?
Workplace enforcement.
If it's this easy to solve problems, why don't we solve global warming by just lowering the sun's temperature a couple of degrees centigrade?
And just have Congress order that done.
Just say, okay, son, starting next week, we're gonna grandfather you for a couple of years so you can adjust to it, but in two years, you are gonna be two degrees Celsius cooler when your sunlight and energy reaches our planet than you are now.
And if you don't do this, son, then we are going to pass even tougher legislation on you the following year.
It makes about as much sense as what Senator Kennedy is saying here about the magic that's in this bill.
One final question, Stephanopoulos says you mentioned Latinos support uh yet this week a coalition of four major Latino organizations wrote to Dingy Harry saying that he should pull this bill.
Here's what they wrote.
They said that given the fact that our national legislative debate on immigrants and immigration policy have been taken hostage by a small but very well-organized group of extreme-minded xenophobic and racist political forces.
It would be impossible to produce an even remotely decent version of systemic uh uh systemic immigration policy reform that's humane, common sense driven, functional, and long lasting.
Um they're strong words and they're very much against this bill.
What do you say to that?
We have the DREAM Act that says to every young person that was brought here, probably without ever knowing it, and have been here for three years and have graduated from high school, that they'll either be able to go into the military and serve in the military and move towards the citizenship, or they'll be able to be eligible to continue their education.
Those are important.
I mean, these are the people the people you want to help the most now are turning against the I don't believe that that's uh really there are groups that are opposed to this.
I understand, but there are a recognition in this country that doing nothing, doing nothing is not an alternative.
The problem's gonna go worse.
What is their answer, George?
What is their answer?
You're not hearing the answer, Senator.
The answers enforce the bill that you passed in 1986.
Answers enforce every bill that you passed before that.
Enforce current law.
It is that simple.
Redoing Simpson Mazzoli in 1986 with some dream stuff in it, as you say, is not going to fix this.
And he knows it.
He knows this is not a fix to the problem.
Most of the people on this on on Senator Kennedy's side of this have no intention of fixing this at all.
They they want the status quota grow, folks.
They're not trying to fix a damn thing.
Mary in uh in Hartford, Connecticut, I'm glad you called.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Thank you.
Nice to speak with you.
I hope.
Um, I'm just calling because your premise that the immigration bill is a strategy by the Democrats to gain more voters.
Um, as a Latino, I can tell you the Latino population, illegal, legal, identifies much more with the conservative values than they do with with the Democrats.
Well, I think we are anti-abortion.
We are family-oriented, we are religious people, and I am a legal American.
I'm a Puerto Rican American, so I know what I'm talking about.
Well, no, I'm not sure.
I used to worship you, I loved you until this immigration.
Oh, I knew that was coming.
You lost me.
You lost me.
Well, I didn't lose you.
You called me today.
You're still out there.
Well, well, I have to still listen as as painful as it is, you know, there are other issues that this nation is facing besides the immigration, and I totally agree with you about.
Well, I'll tell you what I want you to do out there.
I wanna I've got a commercial break coming up where we make obscene profits here.
And I w after the I'm not against profits.
I know that.
I I I uh I I know that.
I'm not saying that you are.
Okay.
Gee, lighten up out there.
No, you need to lighten up with this whole immigration.
It's gotten so ugly.
It really has.
That's not your falling prey to the wrong people on that.
I want to talk to you about what you said after the break when I have more time.
So can you hang on?
I will.
Good.
That's it.
Be right back.
Thank you.
Thank you, uh, one and all.
Uh we're back here.
Uh Rush Limbos serving humanity, half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
We now rejoin Mary in uh in Hartford, Connecticut.
You you you uh you misunderstand.
I'm not talking about illegal immigrants as Latinos or as Mexicans or as Hispanics or anything.
I'm talking about them as a culture.
I'm talking about the economic circumstances uh in which they arrive and for the most part stay.
Talk about the illegals now.
And they stay that way because they are desired by the proponents of this bill to remain uneducated and low skills so that they can be paid less.
And and the idea that they don't vote for Democrats, I mean, you c you have your anecdotal stories, but they do in much larger numbers, I mean uh th then they vote for Republicans precisely because they come here very quickly and learn that the social welfare system is at their disposal and they learn very quickly that's oh my god.
Wait, wait a second.
They learn very quickly that the Democrat Party is the author of that.
Look, I've got a story here from ABC News that was Well, can I just interrupt you for a minute because to lend credibility to your argument that it's inclusive of all immigrants, then we should be talking about building a fence on the Canadian border.
We should be talking about that's not where they're coming.
It's not where they're coming from, Mary.
Well, they're coming from all over, and excuse me.
Uh was it a couple of weeks ago that this man with T B uh was able to fly across the country, come back through.
Hello, the Canadian border.
Precisely, and that's what you've that's another oblivated by this disease.
I will.
I'm very passionate about this.
That's you're make you're making another one of my points here.
They tell us I'll explain it.
They tell us we're gonna get border security, and they can't even keep a guy with T B or they uh out of the when they know he's got it.
We can't we can't I mean the the the build a fence right under the federal agent's guard post.
Um border security is what this is about keeping Latinos out of the country.
It's not what this is about.
Look at this.
This uh what tell you about this ABC story.
You because I'm not that should be your message.
This is just not about the Latino Mech illegal Mexicans.
This is about all illegal immigrants.
I have said that's not what we're hearing.
That's not what the Latino population is hearing.
Uh well, if they then they should have listened to this show because that's not nearly the first time I've said it.
Well, I'm not saying it loud enough.
That's not about race.
This is about the preservation of the American culture and people who are coming here and not assimilating to it.
They're coming here getting on the welfare culture of this country, which is not the culture that built the country.
Here's the story from ABC News yesterday.
Illegal immigrants seek health care for kids.
Proponents say clinics offering care, safe tax money.
Foes say they encourage illegal immigration.
They're coming here asking for health care for their kids when they're illegal.
Um they know what's available to them here.
These people are not gonna be voting Republicans, and they're not gonna be uh living their lives as conservatives uh trying to pay for these things themselves.
It's it's and that's the main point that I wanted to address with you the idea that that the the group of people I'm talking about come here and become conservative.
You uh you said you're legal, right?
I'm a Puerto Rican American, I believe so.
Well, okay, but but the point well, I thought I heard you say that you were a legal immigrant in the first segment of the Well, I was just that was just for the drama of it.
Well okay, as you know, right there's the one you know, don't citizens.
Then don't start giving me grief for using talk show host license to create drama in my own program.
But but I'm not talking about people like you.
There's you know, the don't you want the greatest don't you want the greatest country you can don't you want as many people to be prosperous and self-supportive and self-reliant as possible?
I do.
Absolutely.
Well, this this the this legislation is not attracting that kind of immigrant.
Well.
And that's all we're concerned about.
The rhetoric needs to to get a little more civil.
I think kindness needs to get into the conversation.
And I think if in fact it's about all illegal immigrants, that conversation needs to be just a little bit louder.
Because right now, the Latino population is feeling very targeted.
Uh well, and guess who's making them feel that way?
Well, Rush, I think you may have just a little bit to do with it.
No, I think you're I don't I don't think that at all.
You listen to Fox News lately?
Do you watch Fox News?
I'm not sure.
You know, what I know is of Fox News isn't even talking about that.
Every segment is a little bit targeting the illegal Mexican immigrants.
They look criminal elements.
Mary, call them called the illegal immigrants.
It's not.
Call them and complain.
Don't call me.
I'm not doing it.
Well, I called you just to let you know that your premise that all these illegal Mexican immigrants are going to be voting Democrats.
I don't believe you're not.
No, I didn't say all, but the vast majority of them do.
After the 86 Simpson Mazzoli bill, we can track the election results.
We can track who votes.
We know who registers.
Uh and it w it's th that's not even arguable.
And this is you know, the the Republicans are trying to do.
In fact, what you suggest that I think one of the things motivating the Republicans in the Senate is pandering to the very people you're saying be nice to.
And I guarantee you, in a contest between who can be more liberal and give more of the government away, the people on the receiving end are going to quickly realize that Democrats are the best bet there.
I mean, if you really want to get a piece of this country without working for it, vote Democrat.
That's what they know.
Uh and when the Republicans try to act like they're just as nice and compassionate and thoughtful, because they too would love those votes, but if they go out and I mean, if if you're if you're Republican, you're trying to get votes by acting like a Democrat, um, why go for the pretender?
You know, you go for the uh the the the real thing, and in this case, uh that's that's the Democrats.
Well, I hope we got you back here, Mayor, with uh with this productive and polite uh phone call.
We had our uh requisite amount of screaming, which is healthy in all relationships.
So uh for me it was a it was a pleasure to have you on the program to get a chance to speak to you better.
Christine in uh Madison, New Jersey.
I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the program.
Yes, hello, Rosh.
Hi.
Hi, there are many, many time caller.
First time finally getting through.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
My pleasure.
You give me hope on a daily basis.
Please keep up the great work.
I'll do that.
Thank you.
I know no other way.
I really don't.
I've tried to be mediocre, and I just can't do it.
Well, I'd like to change the subject uh for a moment back to uh the fairness doctrine.
I I don't understand if Congress wants to uh try and define fairness on talk radio.
Uh won't those definitions apply to other sources of news, such as uh TV and newspapers?
No.
Doesn't it occur to them that it might backfire?
Uh no, because it won't apply.
It will not apply to T V news.
Uh it would not apply to newspapers, newspapers.
If you can get yourself design designated as quote unquote the press, theoretically they can't do anything to you because you have First Amendment protection.
You are, you know, freedom of the press is spelled out in the Constitution.
Uh but but uh news broadcasts, uh uh even even these uh talk show hosts or talk shows on television at night, they might make a stab at at going after them, but they're on cable.
And cable's not regulated.
There's no there's no federal regulation of cable in the sense this is the broadcast act of 1934, essentially, that's been updated a number of times and has this fairness doctrine in it or had it.
No, this this would be aimed specifically.
They're writing legislation to specifically aim this at one element of the media, talk radio, because they don't control it and they can't beat it.
So it would not impact any other media.
It wouldn't no editorialist, for example.
No.
No, and besides they would say, well, we do, all right.
We give letters to the editor.
We let our people respond.
Our readers get a chance to respond.
Yeah, right.
Well, I just took a call from a woman who disagrees.
Well, I just took a call from a woman who disagrees with me.
I mean, the uh there was uh th what they you know, regulation of media is is uh I think one of the problems that with uh cable news these days, for example.
On all of these combat shows, like Crossfire, though it's not on the air anymore, but the people that produce these things think that every segment, every seven-minute segment has to be balanced, and so there's a formula.
You get three or four liberals and one conservative to argue the issue with the host who's also a liberal, and then you have balance.
Uh but balance doesn't have to be achieved in seven minutes.
Balance can be achieved in a broadcast.
Balance can be achieved in a week.
It's just how you choose to measure it.
Uh and and the the television's gotten so boring and formulaic because of this so-called need to balance things uh that you really don't learn anything watching these programs anymore.
Uh not the ones I'm talking about.
Uh crossfired lost its interest to people, it lost its uh lost its numbers, uh the Capitol Gang on CNN, uh they they they just had well Capital Gang not a good example, but uh they were just it's it's all too formulaic.
This talk radio is the most pure, I guess it's the purest form of open democracy divergent points of view that there exists in America today.
That's why the opponents of it want to shut it down.
You know, I uh you you be very careful how you describe people on on the uh on the proponent side of this issue.
And I love to use the term Stalinist, but sometimes that's too off-putting to people.
I remember back in the uh eighties and early 90s, you called somebody a communist, you really weren't accomplishing anything because nobody wanted to believe uh that communists were among us and they were that big a deal.
Stalinist is the same thing.
The need to come up with a new word that means the same thing.
And what it means is the government is going to enforce what you say and enforce what you think, or you will be penalized, and in some cases severely.
Uh and and then you will be prevented from saying what you think, and you'll be very guarded about saying what you think even in your own home.
How many of you to this day, in at this moment, when you're in public somewhere, will want to say something and you'll stop.
Gee, I wonder if I should say it might offend somebody, it might overhear them.
And you shut up.
This is exactly like what was going on in the Soviet Union, where people I mean, they feared being overheard by a party member, so they'd go into their bathrooms or into their homes and whisper what they really wouldn't dare speak in public.
This is why Alexander Solzhanitzin was in jail where he finally wrote his books.
He was uh he was he was targeted for murder and so forth.
Uh i it was it was uh I'm not saying we're anywhere near that.
I'm saying the thinking that leads to that is on display here under the guise of such nice words as fairness, correct reporting, uh, and all of that.
I'm and uh by the way, I'm only reacting to this institutionally.
If I wanted to react to this personally, I could.
Uh the the idea that what happens on this program is nothing but a pack of lies, the idea that what happens on this program is nothing but propaganda, the idea that what happens in this program is offered without any concern for facts or truth.
Now that's insulting.
And the people that make that claim either know it to be untrue or never listen.
But I think they know it's not.
I think it's just pure character assassination Of an entire media form because they can't handle it, they can't defeat it, and they consider it a threat.
And when government has the power to shut down voices they consider to be threatening, you gotta take that seriously.
Not just people like me who talk for a living, but everybody else.
Uh because once it starts and nobody gets in the way and stops it, you know, you have this inexorable force of government with all this power and the ability to uh imprison and to intimidate and so forth, people shut up uh rather than risk that.
And people are already beginning to shut up.
Uh and when you do not shut up, and when you say things that are true and what you really believe, you're not just saying things outrageously to get people mad.
You look at the reaction that people get.
I mean, there are there there is there's less courage in this country for people to say I was playing golf with uh some what what what day was it?
We're talking about a um uh friend of ours, and they were saying, Yeah, you know what I love about this guy, he will say whatever he wants, and he doesn't care what anybody thinks about.
As though that's rare, and it is rare.
He's not a broadcaster, he's just a guy.
I mean, he'll um a country club member.
He's not afraid to tell the members of the club that he thinks it's being run the wrong way.
Most people will shut up.
There are fewer and fewer people who will really tell you what they think anymore because of fear.
And that's what Feinstein and and all these other people are trying to impose or instill in people like me, and it's not gonna work.
Uh but I'm still I'm still uh you know a little amazed uh that it's gotten as far as it has.
Then that liberals are liberals, though, it they're just gonna keep going for this uh one way or the other till they get close to getting it.
I gotta take a break here way, way long.
Be right back.
Back to the phones.
I was so eloquent that not even I have the discipline to stop myself.
It's one of these days.
Uh I love hearing myself uh uh, especially when I'm right, which is most of the time.
Joe, Edinburgh, Texas.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hey, Rush, hey Joe.
Yeah.
Uh thank you, sir, for taking my call.
I live down here in Edinburgh, Texas.
We're about ten minutes away from the Mexican border, and I'd just like to voice my support for your stance on this immigration mess that they're debating over there.
I've seen basically everything there is to see down here from illegals crossing over my e in-laws yard from uh the illegals basically getting hospital care, which I have to pay for.
And I'd just like to say thank you, Rush.
You're doing the Lord's work in voicing your stance.
Well, I'm running America, you know, I have to be responsible about it, and I can't I can't shirk the responsibility by being afraid of what people's reaction to what I say is gonna be.
Yes, sir.
And I I thank you for your for your attitude, and who cares what they say?
I'm an American of Mexican descent.
I got family members still get a negative, but you know what?
If they pass this thing here, I agree with you wholeheartedly that the face of this country is going to change for the worst.
Well, there's no question about down the road, I mean it'd be y it'll be years and years, but that's that that's uh that's a genuine fear.
I tell what what Joe is responding to is is Mary who called, and her basic premise was that uh I'm wrong in in telling you that most of the illegal immigrants end up voting Democrat.
We all know that I'm right about that because we can check it, and we have checked it.
Uh, if if uh Simpson Mazzoli was going to turn all these people into Republican voters, then a lot of things would have been different from that point to today.
But they're not.
You can look at the percentage of the Hispanic vote that uh Democrats or Republicans get, and it's not even close.
Uh it's not as bad as the gap in the black vote, but it it's still heavily uh heavily Democrat.
Another point that she made was that I uh and others like me are are not being nice enough and kind enough because we uh we are stirring up uh anti-Republican sentiment uh with our characterization of Latinos as subpar citizens so forth.
Look at folks.
I think it's the other way around.
When all these immigration rallies took place, and all these people supposedly living in the shadows, show up in public in the sunshine, waving their Mexican flags, and demanding that the law Not apply to them.
I'm sorry, but it's it this is not a chicken or egg question.
Uh the idea that we are responsible for making them mad uh is just the opposite.
We'll be back.
What are you frowning at in there?
See?
He can't believe I had the guts to say that.
I'm on a roll.
He couldn't believe I had the guts.
Just enough time to say sit tight.
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