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I was watching uh Fox this morning.
They had live coverage of the trial of Mike Nyfong in North Carolina.
And I I have to tell you, uh this is this is a hearing with Knife Wong being disbarred.
It's over his life uh law license.
He's out there as a yeah, I made some ethical mistakes.
I made some he's trying to limit the damage here.
He's he's trying to he's trying to prevent himself from being disbarred by uh making some admissions to things here.
Um his cross-examination.
I'm not sure if it started yet or not.
But he, you know, as I say, he's admitted he's making made a whole lot of uh ethical mistakes.
His comments that he made were improper and so forth.
But I he's not the story today, as far as I'm concerned.
I I watched Reed Seeligman, who is one of the three lacrosse players uh who was falsely accused and harassed by students at Duke and the 88 professors and all kinds of uh malcontents in the courtroom when they had their court appearance.
And this testimony, I I've when these guys had their press conference, I was uh blown away with their composure and their maturity.
He broke down, he started crying uh when he started describing the phone call to his mother to tell her that he had been accused of rape, that he had been picked in a lineup.
And his mother had a camera on her, and she was crying.
Uh it was uh it was it was terrible listening to this story.
Uh but even before he broke down and started crying, it was this remarkably composed and and uh and mature and truthful.
So, yeah, we we volunteered DNA first thing out of the box because we knew we didn't do this, and that's the fastest way to prove it.
And of course, the DNA DNA results were held back, and nobody was informed about the DNA results.
Uh until it until it leaked, and they spent some time in this trial yesterday pointing out that oh, there was no conspiracy here to do that.
That's just one unfortunate mistake that happened.
Um there are no coincidences, folks.
Uh, but it was it's it's the second time I've I've seen uh public speaking from these lacrosse players, and they are just uh profound, they've obviously been raised uh very well, and they're they're they're quality people that just exuded composure and class.
And of course, when you have the truth and passion on your side, you can be a pretty good public speaker when you know your subject, and when you know what you're saying is the truth.
Uh gets rid of the nerves and tension that some people uh face when they get up to speak uh publicly.
Uh but it was uh heartwarming, and I I at the same time when Knife Wong started his testimony, they had a camera cut to the families, and I think uh uh one of the other lacrosse players, well Seeligman and and Colin uh what's his name, Finnerty, and uh looks on their faces and their mothers, their parents' faces could have killed when Knife Wong was up uh speaking.
And I I remember telling Snerdly yesterday, I said, you know what, this I knew this trial was gonna start.
I said, I think so much time's gone by, so much passion has dissolved here, uh, and legal communities tend to stick together.
I bet he gets some kind of slap on the face, but not much.
And I have totally changed my thinking on that now after what I saw today with him admitting impropriety and uh unethical behavior and uh mistakes, uh his statements.
He knows he's uh he could have the entire book thrown at him over this and is trying to limit that.
I don't know how long this is uh this is going to go, but this was I mean, if you have a chance to see some of this over the weekend or tonight, you should see uh Seeligman's testimony.
Now during the break at the top of the hour, I went back to Snerdley's office, as I always do, just to make sure keep his morale up and get his mind right.
Open line Friday is tough for him.
And uh he had C-SPAN, he's always got C-span on there.
I haven't seen C-SPAN so long.
I didn't know Brian Lamb had uh lost his hair on top.
I said, Who is that?
He said it's Brian Lamb.
No, it's not Brian Lamb.
Yes, it is.
Well, he cut away to a Clinton speech.
And and who's Clinton giving a speech to?
That uh yeah, the the the women in families consortium, some such liberal group.
You know, I'm looking at this and I'm I just can't help I don't sound up.
So I don't know what Clinton's saying, but I can guess he's talking to some liberal group that wants as much control over families and women and their quote unquote issues as possible.
And I'm sure he's telling them what they want to hear about how we all have to work together.
People out there want to destroy you, but you uh you're doing God's work, you're doing you're doing Lord's work and you're hanging it for people of disadvantaged and so forth, the downtrodden of hungry and the thirsty, and I I want uh you're doing the right thing and nobody talked out of it, blah blah.
And I'm sitting there saying, there's no way this guy and Hillary would live their lives the way they are encouraging these people to tell us to live our lives.
And then I stumble across this story from the Associated Press.
Hoping to avoid any possible conflict of interest, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband, the former president, liquidated a blind trust valued at five million to twenty-five million dollars in April after learning that it included such investments as oil and drug companies and military contractors, this according to her presidential campaign.
As a presidential candidate, Senator Clinton was required to make her assets public.
As a result, she had to dissolve her blind trusts at Howard Wolfson.
Upon his dissolution, she and the president chose to go above and beyond what was required of them and liquidate their assets in order to avoid even the hint of a conflict of interest.
Would you like to hear what the investments were, ladies and gentlemen?
Well, here we go.
Several pharmaceutical companies, big drug, including Abbott Labs, Amgen, or maybe Amgen, not sure they pronounce it, uh, Genentech, Navartis, Pfizer, and Wyeth, with assets in each company ranging from 100,01 to 250,000.
The New York Times reported in Friday editions that other assets included BP Amico, big oil, Chevron Corp.
Big Oil, Exxon Mobil Corp.
Big Oil, Raytheon, big defense contracts, and Walmart stores.
Every industry and company that they demonize, they are invested in, or they were, they have liquidated.
And I don't believe this notion that it was in the blind trust, and therefore well, they had to know what they were invested in.
Blind trust just means you don't know how it's doing.
Uh but uh they knew that this the disclosure was coming up and they were going to have to do this.
And I don't believe for a minute that the dissolution of the investments in these companies was for any you know highbrow reason of openness and sunshine and all that, it was to avoid charges of hypocrisy.
I mean, here they are demonizing every one of these industries.
In fact, during the health care attempt back in the early 90s, Mrs. Clinton was doing everything she could to trash these.
I wondered back then if she was investing in pharmaceutical stocks and then selling short after driving the prices down.
And I don't know, I mean, who who knows what's been going on here with with uh with any of that.
Uh according to these disclosure forms, their net worth uh is now approximately 50 million dollars.
They came to Washington with nothing.
How does this happen?
Uh Clinton as president made 400 grand.
Hillary as uh senator makes a hundred and what is it?
I don't even know.
Sixty, seventy, eighty.
Uh I know Clinton's been out there doing speeches and they've written books and so forth, but we also know they've got ties with some really strange people like this Gupta guy.
Uh and uh uh they get ties with Dubai.
Uh in fact Clinton was even uh helping Dubai uh lobby for the ports deal back when it happened.
But I mean this this is just typical.
These people, I'm telling you, everything they tell you is gonna be wrong or is gonna end up being in one degree or another falsehood if you just sit around and wait.
Walmart of all she was acting embarrassed that she was on the Walmart board.
She was having a cover for that lately.
Well, there's Arkansas, that's a long time ago.
Uh had to do that.
Uh was in business down there.
Walmart was a big concern.
But I left that board when I discovered that some practices that company was involved in were things I didn't approve.
How they're investing in Walmart stocks.
With some of their hard-earned cash that they have uh that they have earned uh since the uh Clintons left the White House in January of 2001.
The only industry they have not invested in, and that's because they don't have to invest in it, they open it or own it, and that's big hypocrite.
I'll tell you what, this is this is one of these headlines that really conflicts me.
It was like the story, and that was on an open line Friday, about I don't know, two months ago is the story on um the divorce rate declining.
You know, that that that that was a conflict for me.
So's this headline.
And it is from Canada from uh Peterborough, Ontario.
A judge has ruled that a 24-year-old Canadian man is not allowed to have a girlfriend for the next three years.
A ruling came after Stephen Cranley pleaded guilty on Tuesday to several charges stemming from an assault on a former girlfriend.
Cranley, who has been diagnosed with a dependent personality disorder, attacked his girlfriend in an argument after their breakup.
Tried to keep her from phoning the cops by cutting her phone cord.
He punched her and he kicked her.
He finally stabbed himself with a butcher knife when the cops did arrive.
He punctured his aorta.
He has uh difficulty coping with rejection, you think.
Runs a high risk to reoffend if he becomes involved in another intimate relationship.
So the judge, Reese Morgan said Cranley, quote, cannot form a romantic relationship but of an intimate nature with a female person for three years.
No, can't casually date.
They can't well, yeah.
Uh I guess he could casually date, cannot form a romantic relationship of an intimate.
Yeah, we know what intimate's a code word for.
Uh female person.
He could also he could go gay, um, because it specifies female person here.
Okay, uh Chris in Indianapolis, you're next in the EIB network.
Hello, sir.
Hey, Diddle's Rush from the Racing Capital of the World.
Uh thank you, sir.
It's great to have you with us.
Uh yeah, I I wanted to take exception with the uh the story about the fathers and the monkeys, and I don't I mean I resent the comparison.
Uh I've been a father basically for the past thirty-one years.
I've got a 31-year-old is my oldest, and my youngest is nine.
It's a good thing that you said your son's thirty-one years when you said you'd been a father for thirty-one years, because if it'd been a difference in the numbers, yeah, yeah.
I I'm pretty good at math.
Um, but uh when I I got divorced uh back uh around 1980, uh and I got custody of my four kids.
Uh well, we all know what that means.
Um my son at the time was five, round round five.
I had twin daughters that were about a year old.
Um when we went to court, I told the judge I did not want child support.
Uh you know, I do this on my own.
I had a job, I've been in the same job about thirty years.
Uh I've got legal guardianship of one of my grandsons uh since he's about three months old and he's ten now.
Um, you know, I've I've I've gone out of my way to try to be a good father.
My father, you know, he was around my entire life until he passed away about five years ago.
Uh And I think, you know, to be a father, you have to put yourself secondary to your kids' needs.
And I think some men have a problem with that.
And that's you know, that's that's what's wrong with certain families.
I'm not, you know, I know I know.
Look, I didn't have to be.
There's no question.
There's no question that we can get into anecdotal stories and get examples of all kinds.
Uh good fathers, half half decent fathers, rotten fathers, and of course, fathers that abandon the their families and so forth.
The point of this story, though, was generalized.
And it was it was it was to present the picture that I mean when you when your premise is that Father's Day may not be justified anymore because not enough fathers around to earn it or deserve it.
Yeah, you can tell there's an agenda behind this.
Uh and of course, the story mentions nothing about mothers that that screw up.
Right, and there's plenty of those, too.
Well, yeah.
I mean, the the we're all ever yes, human beings are what they are.
So we all have our flaws.
And a lot of people have kids that really have no business doing it.
They just do it for the any number of reasons.
Uh worst reason being it's the next stage of the relationship, think we should, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Then don't stop and think about what they're getting into.
People plan it, make sure that they understand, okay, once you start having a family, you have to, especially, you know, once you get to ten or twelve, I think you've you that that's well, I I shouldn't even say this because I've not been one.
I'm just an uncle.
But I in the in the I I know this.
I know enough to know that the reason I've not done it is because I I be honest, I was not willing to make myself second.
I was too focused on what I wanted to accomplish and achieve professionally.
And I came of age in the era of feminism where that was considered uncool.
Uh fathers and and so forth were defined as good fathers by they stay home, help raise the kids during weekdays, they change the diapers at three o'clock in the morning.
I'm sorry that just I've I think uh the kids I didn't have are the luckiest non-kids ever.
Well, yeah, I've got six kids and I've got eight grandkids.
Um, I love them all, and I I I do what I can for them, and you know, I don't I don't hold them ninety percent of the time during the daylight hours, but you know, when you have a job you can't do that.
Well, see, now that's a great point.
What he's talking about is let me read the passage here in this in this uh in this story uh about that.
Anthropologists are trying to figure out why fathers don't spend nearly enough time with their kids.
Uh humans produce the most slowly maturing young of all mammals.
Among foraging humans, children need 19 years.
What is this foraging humans?
And uh get to that later.
Children need 19 years and consume 13 million calories before producing more food for their community than they take from.
What more food for their community?
What anyway, this according to research by an anthropologist.
Now you'd think fathers would be hardwired to provide for such needy offspring who can't go out and provide for themselves until they're 19, and I know many of you have 19-year-olds who wish they'd start thinking about that pretty soon.
Uh but there's more variation in fathering styles across human cultures than among all other species of primates combined.
Many of our primate kin are far better fathers.
Get this.
Many of our primate kin are far better fathers than we are.
Investigators at the California Primate Center discovered that baby Titi monkeys, T I T I monkeys, are in the arms of their fathers for as much as ninety percent of daylight hours.
Many are far worse, but all they're at least consistent within their species.
Why does paternal care in our species vary so much?
Because we're not primates.
And that teeth monkey father has no clue.
It's not a ca an uh uh an active decision that he's making.
This is whatever you want to call it, it's instinct, whatever you want to attach to uh to animals.
But he and the wife didn't get together and discuss this, and he agreed to hold the baby for 90 percent of the daylight hours.
It it just generalizes that too, because there's as many various uh parenting styles among primates, the different types of primates as there are humans.
Right.
The TD monk but the gorilla, you think the male gorilla is gonna sit around and hold uh baby cocoa for 90% of the daylight hour gonna happen.
So they find the one example where this idiot monkey goes out and holds his baby for 90% of the day, and we get compared to that, and of course we're gonna fail.
What man who's worth his salt has that kind of time?
Right.
I I know I'm I'm too busy.
I mean, I coach little league for my kids, and I, you know, I I get involved with their own.
Oh, I'm not even talking about that.
I'm talking it's called work.
It's called producing for the family.
It's called generating an income.
It's called providing for the kid.
This is a derelict father, if you ask me.
He's leaving it up to the woman to go out there and provide the food or whatever these these uh teedy monkey families eat, but to be called worse than a monkey, folks, by Time magazine.
That's all right.
I I couldn't take this any longer.
I never heard uh heard of a TD monkey, so I went and looked them up.
And I now know why the father holds the baby 90% of the daylight hours.
In the first place, the TD monkeys live in South America, from Colombia to Brazil or Peru and north to Paraguay.
They prefer dense forests near water.
They easily jump from branch to branch, earning their German name, the jumping monkey.
They sleep at night, but they also take a midday nap.
They live in family groups, consist of parents and their offspring, about three to seven animals.
They defend their territory by shouting and chasing off intruders.
Their grooming and communication is important for the cooperation of the group, typically be seen in pairs sitting or sleeping with tails entwined.
Well, you know what this means.
You have to hold on to the stupid little baby monkey or it'll fall out of the tree.
Time magazine presents this as a loving teeth monkey dad holding the baby.
If you read the whole story, you'll see this because that's forming a bond, and it's helping to ring it's a little baby, it'll fall out of the tree otherwise.
Now, if you if you think I'm being harsh here, and you think I'm being anti-animal, you can't possibly think that.
I mean, you I swoon.
I'm I'm I'm a cream puff for animals.
And I'm like you.
I think it'd be cool to have one of these big cats as a pet.
I'm just not stupid enough to think it's possible.
And try it.
Let's talk about these giant emperor penguins, not the happy feet penguins, but the emperor penguins that live down in Antarctica.
Now, the that this was a little documentary called March of the Penguins.
And I watched March of the Penguins, and I frankly was amazed and I was stunned.
The crux of this story is that the breeding season for these penguins is basically their lives.
And the the breeding uh results in the pairs of penguins going to this desolate part of Antarctica, cold as it can be, temperatures of 30 below, they the female lays the egg, and then the father is the one who incubates the egg.
And it's cold as hell when the egg is is uh uh uh what do you say, laid.
And so they have to transfer the egg from female to male very quickly, or the embryo can freeze to death.
I mean, it's thirty thirty below.
Then the fathers cover these eggs and they band together, get as tight as a group, millions of them, thousands of them, uh, and huddle together, and they each take turns moving from the outer edges of the group, the rim to the inside, because you're in the outside, you've got nobody breaking the wind, so you're colder.
So they do all of this, and this this takes months.
Now, while this is happening, the mothers flee.
Uh and and they they head off to um uh feed.
Uh and it's it's it's a it's an arduous process.
It is a long trek.
It nobody that nobody with any sense would live this way.
And so then the mothers come back and the and the fathers have lost almost all their fat.
Now, the reason, and this is nature, folks, by but by nature I mean these penguins are not choosing this.
Uh do you think if if if these penguins knew about, let's say, Antigua, that they wouldn't get the hell out of the Antarctic and move there except they die because it's too hot.
They're there for reason.
They were created and put there for reason.
Who knows what?
Don't care.
The whole earth is used by all living organisms.
And it's so cold down there that uh these things have to have the ability to survive it.
And they do.
But the fathers have more fat, they're larger, so they can they can incubate the eggs longer than the mother could.
It's just that simple.
It's not, it's not an agreement.
It's not in the prenup.
You know, when mother and dad penguin get married, it's not something that one of them is ordering to do or offering to do.
It's nature.
They're programmed to do it.
I'm I'm telling you that if those things could get you think if they thought about it, if they had the ability to think about this, they wouldn't get the hell out of the Antarctic as fast as they could.
You think if they knew that there was things like a Motel 6, they would they would head there?
My point is it's the same thing with the TD monkey.
And I'm I'm making a big deal out of this because what Time magazine's done here is totally irresponsible, and this is not just something casually unimportant.
This is a magazine, it has an agenda, and it's anti-male, and they're trying to get I mean they're never gonna get Father's Day canceled.
That's not what they're trying to do.
But when you s when your premise of your whole story is that Father's Day may not be deserved uh or have been earned by some of these people, uh some fathers.
I mean, you you realize what's what's going on here.
So a TD monkey, male TD monkey holds its baby for 90% of the daylight hours every day after it's born.
And that in this story, that's good, that's great.
Why don't we do it that way?
Why aren't male fathers, human male fathers that thoughtful?
Not thoughtful.
The TD monkey's not thoughtful.
It doesn't.
I mean, if you do you think that if it could find a way to not live in a tree, it would.
See, we put our own context in it.
We don't want to live in trees.
Well, we're not made to live in trees.
They are.
It's totally natural.
That's their world.
The koala bear.
Koala bear, well, they're never going to move because they get they get high all day.
They get drunk, they eat those berries in the trees and they sit there and zone out.
Of course, they never have to go to rehab, you know, they're they're never cited for DUIs or any of this sort of stuff.
It's just who they are, just what they are.
So but my point is to compare us to all these other species who are flawless, they were told, and we are to that they are they do it perfectly.
It's just it's absurd and it's insulting.
And it goes back to what I was talking about at the top of the program.
Human beings intrude on nature.
Every element of nature is just it's pristine, it's wonderful, it's beautiful, it's not destructive.
But we we intrude on nature.
We are as much a part of nature as anything born and living on this planet.
All right, Joe in Chicago, I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Russia Sonata just talked to you.
Thank you, sir.
Uh concerning Hillary, it looks like she's gonna get the probably going to get the Democratic nomination.
But I don't think it's actually her that they want.
I think she's only the vehicle that gets Bill back in the White House in a position to exert presidential power without being elected.
Well, there's no question there's a truthful element to that.
I mean, I th I I thought I've I've heard a number of lib well, who was it?
Uh I had the sound bite on the roster the other day and I didn't use it.
Uh uh Peter Fenn, well-known Democrat strategist.
And he's always on uh hardball with Chris Matthews.
And and he was I forget exactly what he said, but he was uh his comment made it clear that a lot of Democrats are excited about Bill Clinton getting back in the White House.
Exactly.
But but let me ask you a question about this, Joel Buddy.
Do you think Hillary's in on this game that she's just the proxy?
Well, they both want the power, so I guess the fair.
In your answer.
Well, I think that's you I I I mean there's another school of thought that that that uh there's two two other schools of thought.
One of them is that Clinton doesn't want her to win because he wants to be the only Clinton that was in the White House and will somewhat sometimes on the role will sabotage her by getting caught doing something you shouldn't do.
The second school of thought is that uh she really, really wants this, and she doesn't want him around at all and is going to appoint him ambassador to the world and send him around the world where he's constantly gone.
But but if I will I would be stunned if Mrs. Clinton's in on this game that she's just a figurehead and that he's actually gonna be calling the shots in there.
You know what?
I know too many people that I've to talked to that are Democrats, because living in Chicago, I'm surrounded, that want Bill so bad that they say he was the best president, he was he was things are wonderful under him, uh so on and so forth, that they were willing to vote for her just to get him.
So what exactly is in their minds?
Well, Now that could be that could be true.
They might think that just because he's in there, he's gonna have policy input and all that, and uh you have to examine that desire on the part I mean if you got people out there for Chicago where you live uh who that's totally understandable the guy was loved and adored by the drive-by media, so it uh it's understandable that they wouldn't want Bill Clinton back in there.
But that's why they'd vote for him, vote for her.
I mean, uh yeah, yeah, it might be.
But look at I don't I just I don't buy the notion that uh she's a proxy for him.
These all kinds of people, uh especially Democrats, come up with really funny conspiracy theories.
But the um if I if I had to put money on this, uh I I I would bet that if Hillary is elected uh that's gonna be the beginning of payback time.
And by sending him around the world and by keeping him out of she's look at you have to She's candidate inevitability.
She has been working to protect him all of his career, the bimbo eruptions.
She'd been working, she got her health care deal as a payback price, but in her mind, it's time to put the stamp and the imprimatter of Hillary Clinton on Clinton Inc.
And I'm telling you, if d now they are a team, but I'm gonna tell you something.
She is Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit.
She's you read these books, read these two books that are out on her.
They don't just disagree with their enemies, they try to destroy them.
And they it their political opponents, they they hold uh nothing back.
This this woman she'd be she'd be serious.
I don't think I don't think she's that politically adept, frankly.
I I think I think there's a lot of hype about her that she doesn't hasn't earned and and doesn't deserve, but she is what she is in terms of uh power crazy and willing to use it, autocratic, and uh the typical woman.
Just I've sorry for I've just I I knew when that syllables formed, I shouldn't have sent.
I was joking, uh honest honest and I there's no element of truth in this joke, which is why it was a lousy joke.
I was just check this, uh check this email.
Dear Rush, my son just banned me from listening to you anymore.
Should I do as I'm told?
Barbara.
How could a son ban a mother?
See, that's what I don't understand.
I would never tell my mother not to well, I might at this age of a uh Dana in Memphis, Tennessee.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Mr. Limbaugh, thanks so much for having me.
I've listened for 15 years, and uh this is my first call.
Appreciate that.
And I I value your opinion a great deal, and something I've been I've been confused about is I'm not a huge supporter of the war in Iraq, but I'm I'm I'm trying to make an educated decision, and I hear a lot that we shouldn't get out, we don't need to pull out, bad things are gonna happen.
What I'd like to know from you is if we pull out, let's say later this year, if we pull the troops out, can you paint a picture of what Iraq would be in ten years uh how it would affect America, how it affect the Middle East?
Because I hear people saying it'd be bad, but I I've never heard anyone say here's why it would be bad.
Take a look at Gaza today, and you're you'll see Iraq uh within years or months after we pull out.
Now, if you don't if if you're not concerned about what's going on with Gaza and the uh what's happened there is Hamas uh proudly proclaiming an Islamist victory and Islamist society, uh and they're gonna continue to march against Israel and so forth as they've been doing for years, uh, which is an ally of ours.
Uh if if that doesn't concern you, then it it it it wouldn't.
But the the big thing about pulling out, besides what the eventual uh view of things would be, is that we have just told the world that we've quit.
We've just told the world that we'll accept defeat.
Uh we've just told every ally that they can't really trust us the next time we ask them to get involved with us somewhere.
Uh and so we're we're we'll just be more vulnerable.
This is the kind of weakness of the kind of thing that terrorists and people who want to attack the country see as weakness.
So Bin Laden himself said it in the Black Hawk Down circumstance in Somalia in Mogadishu.
And he said it to an ABC news reporter.
We've uh got the audio and it's the video tape is has been played as well.
Um when we cut and ran out of out of uh Mogadishu after taking twenty four twenty five casualties bin Laden said, Well, uh America's gone soft.
They uh they they can't handle casualties, they know how to play our media.
So we'd we would uh be making ourselves much more vulnerable.
Look, all you gotta do is uh Harry Reid two years ago said this.
In March of 2005, he was in Iraq, he came back and he said, I uh I don't see how we can pull out of there now the terrorists would win.
Now he's done a 180 now since defeat of the U.S. he thinks will advance the fortunes of the Democrat Party.
Stop and think about that.
Uh the the actual on the ground results, look at Gaza and look at then uh that would represent uh y what you don't want is is for something like a terrorist state, uh a terrorist organization to actually get a state, actually have a country that they govern and run, like Afghanistan was, and like Iraq would become, and like Iran is.
Uh and they all start cooperating with each other with that agenda of driving out infidels wherever they are in the world, non-believers and so forth.
Uh the big problem is we just be waving a white flag, we'd be giving up.
United States doesn't surrender, we don't give up.
Uh and if we did, in this case, it just gonna come back to haunt us later on, and we're gonna have to face these guys somewhere down the road if we are to survive.
Um time is now.
Uh Andrew in Overland Park, Kansas, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Uh Did O'Sresh, how are you?
Fine, sir.
Thank you.
Listen, uh, I have a question that's uh the more and more I listen to you is has crossed my mind.
Um because I've listened to you since you began here in KC many years ago.
I would like you to ponder this and maybe uh elaborate someday on what you've done in the whole transition of what has happened in radio since you started.
And when in your career you realized it was bigger than you thought it ever was gonna be.
I mean, now that you're running the nation.
Right, right.
It is it is amazing to me that you've enlightened a generation of people.
And uh it's gotta have some consequence in your mind as to how it happened and what it's become.
Well, I'll tell you uh in this in all candor, uh I uh and I once asked George Will this question when I interviewed him back in uh 1985, he said you ever uh family's gone to bed at night and you're still up, you ever sit down and ponder what you have meant to your readers, your audience?
And he sort of cocked his head at me, looked at me like I thought he thought it was a stupid question, and his answer was no.
I've got tomorrow to worry about.
And I thought I I I didn't know what to make of that.
I thought how could he not ponder it?
How how could he not consider it?
The um the honest answer here is, and I try to always give honest answers, is that I r uh I don't I'm not that reflective on it.
I I think about it because other people mention it to me.
Uh I just in fact I got an email from a guy who once he says, Look, and I I compare you to the Steelers and the Yankees and all these great sports organizations, but even they have down years, even that these teams that are considered perennial champions, you haven't had a down year in nineteen years.
How do you do it?
And the uh uh the uh there's a one-word answer for it that will uh require some explanation.
I'll try to get as much in before this is over, but it's humility.
Uh I I really, despite all the bombast and the joking and the braggado show, I don't think about it.
Uh I I think about it part of your life in radio is that you could lose your job tomorrow.
Now, that can't happen to me in the way that it used to be able to happen, but I could clearly blow this if I start taking it for granted and assuming that after 19 years the audience is going to be there, regardless how much time I put into it.
So I think what what I'm most focused on is I've had a saying for people everybody works with me.
The show is the thing, meaning the audience is the thing.
And what I focus on is making sure that those who are gonna give me their time every day get the best of me they can get, even after two hours sleep.
And if I fail to do that in my own assessment one day, then I'm obsessed about it until the next day to fix it.
And that's that's as close as I ever get to it.
There are other things about the transition of radio I can talk about when I get back.
Oh, I forgot to tele.
See, folks, I'm sorry about this.
I f I forgot to mention I got my annual Northeast golf trip next week with my golf buddies.
I'll be out all next week, but don't sweat the immigration stuff.