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June 13, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 13, 2007, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24-7 podcast.
Well, yesterday it was uh uh what's her name?
Kim Gandhi of the nags that was all upset at me about uh illegal immigration.
Today it is Barbara Ehrenreich, another big-time nag.
Yeah, you she's a writer.
You remember she wrote that uh book about taking minimum wage jobs a few years ago.
She lives out there on Long Island somewhere.
Big Northeastern liberal uh you know elitist, defeat snob.
Anyway, blaming me for uh wait till you hear what she wants to do with illegal immigrants.
She thinks not only should that $5,000 fine be waived, they should get a bonus.
Uh greetings, my friends, and welcome.
Yes, it's true.
Here we are, the middle of the week, the fastest week in media Rush Limbaugh on the EIB network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Try this.
Try this headline from uh from Reuters, Cockroaches Can Learn like dogs and us.
Cockroaches have a memory.
They can be taught to salivate in response to neutral stimuli in the way that Pavlov's dogs would do when the famed Russian doctor rang his bell.
Understanding the brain mechanism of learning in insects can help us to understand the functionings in the human brain, said Makoto Mitsunami of Tohuku University's graduate school of life science.
Well, it's bad enough they compare us to rats out there.
Now they're comparing us to cockroaches.
They're studying the cockroach brain to learn about our brain.
I wonder these things remember being sprayed, stomped on, swatted, kicked in the corner.
I don't think they do.
Because every time they show up, you can spray these things.
I resent this.
I mean, being compared.
Cockroach.
The only cockroaches have over us is they would survive a nuclear assault.
You know, they'll uh they'll they'll survive uh anything.
All right, let's go to the audio sound bites.
This call uh arrived on C-SPAN's Washington Journal on Monday.
I find myself occasionally flipping to Rush Limbaugh.
He is his heck bent and determined that he is not going to pay Hillary Clinton any respect.
I wonder why it is that you call her Hillary instead of Senator Clinton or former First Lady Hillary Clinton.
That bothers me tremendously.
This uh woman's from uh Amelia Island, Florida.
Uh she occasionally flips uh to me, thinks I'm heck bent on and determined that I'm not gonna pay her any respect.
Um I don't understand that.
I'm I'm the one that's saying there's an 80% chance she's gonna be the next president of the United States.
I mean, how is that disrespect her?
Not only that, uh whoever this woman is, if you happen to have flipped to Rush Limbaugh just now and just recently, your question about her name, ask her, because every other week she tells the media what she wants to be called.
Hillary Rodham Clinton, then drop the Rodham and just be Hillary Clinton.
I'm trying to show respect by calling her Mrs. Bill Clinton.
Uh she's a wife, she's a doting and loving wife out there, proud of her husband.
Uh uh.
At any rate, we do have some Hillary news, and I thought that I would use this as a as a as a springboard or a transition to it.
Uh read this yesterday.
Rich Lowry has read uh both the books about Hillary, the Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta book and the and the Carl Bernstein book, and he really has uncovered some some amazing things in this book that the drive-by media uh in these books that the drive-by media will not uh pass on to us.
And it's it really uh uh his review is devastating to her.
Ram Emanuel, Bill Bradley, Donna Shalela, all admit and discuss how arrogant and inept and power mad Hillary Clinton is.
You know, she is Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit.
And what what he if she is elected president, if I'm right about this, uh that that there's an 80% chance that she's it.
Uh I mean, it's she's Hugo Chavez.
She is going to use the power and the force of government to quiet her uh her opponents and enemies.
And she got a lot of them.
She got a lot of opponents and she's got a lot of enemies.
The story about Bill Bradley was all about how Hillary uh went went up to uh Capitol Hill to try to manage her health care plan, and Bradley said, Look, uh you're gonna have to change this.
You're gonna have to get with the way things work up here, you're gonna have to, you know.
and she said, No, not only am I not going to change it, if anybody up here doesn't participate with me on this, we are going to demonize them.
And Bradley said, Well, that's it for me.
You don't come up here and say you're gonna start demonizing people when you need some legislation passed.
Um the same with Moynihan was part of that group.
He, of course, now deceased, but Moynihan and Bradley both were just overwhelmed with how politically inept she was.
And I've this has been one of my points all along.
I've shared with you constantly my question.
What in the world is it that recommends this woman to be president of the United States other than her name, other than her last name, and the fact that she's owed this because she's put up with so much.
I mean, there's so much mythology around this woman that she could have had this great career on her own.
She could have been elected president or a senator as early as 1992.
She came out of Wellesley, she came out of Yale, she gave it all up for this Hayseed Hick in Arkansas, then she had to go put up with his peccadillos and um and and basically keep his campus.
She these books talk about how she ran the bimbo eruptions operation.
It wasn't Betsy Wright.
Betsy Wright was a public face of it.
But uh it was Hillary running the bimbo operations in 1992, uh, trying to find all these women that would might pop up and accuse Clinton of having dalliances with him, and she was in charge of getting a hold of them, getting signed affidavits saying it wasn't true, and that uh the you know who knows what kind of threats.
And they were wiretapping cell phone calls.
Hillary and this unit, uh, it was it was a group in addition to the war room.
The war room was Clinton and Bagala and Stephanopoulos, or or Carville and Stephanopoulos and Bagala, and Hillary had a further elite group, uh, forget the name of it, but they were intercepting and monitoring uh cell phone calls of Clinton opponents trying to figure out uh find out what their next plan was, get a head start on it.
And that's that's a warrantless wiretap program that they were engaged.
Oh, it's domestic surveillance.
It's actually wireless domestic surveillance, wireless warrant uh wiretapping.
Uh whatever.
I mean, the the Byron New York story it's at National Review Online uh NRO, and it's it's uh it's this is a devastating um review of uh the information these two books that the drive-by's haven't touched.
Then on the Drudge page, they drudge links to uh Camille Paglia column uh at Salon.com.
And it it and I love Camille Calya, uh Camille Polly as as much as uh anybody does, I really do.
But she she makes the she makes the statement that Hillary makes Obama and Edwards look like shaky Tyros.
Uh she doesn't make them look like shaky Tyros, they are shaky Tyros.
I mean, she's not making them look like that.
That's who these people are.
But I thought everybody got this, and I don't I I think I'm gonna have to spell this out.
There's only one reason why uh why the Breck girl is a media star, and a couple a couple reasons why Obama's a media star.
Uh, but the real reason that they are media stars right now in terms of the drive-by media and are being pumped up is because they split the anti-Hillary vote.
And the anti-Hillary vote, simple math is much larger than the pro-Hillary vote.
Let me add it up for you.
Hillary leads Obama 34 to 24.
Hooray for Hillary goes to drive-by.
But look at that.
She's leading Obama by 10 points.
Why, that's fabulous.
See, she can overcome obstacles.
Hillary leads Edwards 34 to 10.
Hooray for Hillary.
Why?
24-point lead.
Hillary even leads Al Gore, who's not in the race 34 to 17.
Wow, look at Hillary Clinton.
Why she creaming all comers.
But if you take Al Gore and Obama and the Breck girl out of this, Hillary would trail the not Hillary III 34 to 51.
There's 51% of Democrat voters in these polls, if you add them up, who are not voting for Hillary.
So the drive-by-s, of course, these guys are tyros, and they're there to split the anti-Hillary vote, and that that is how it's being made to appear in the drive-by that she's just cleaning their clocks.
But, you know, dirty little secret here, look at the total vote, total polling data, and you find that uh anybody but Hillary gets 51% of the Democrat votes.
And Hillary gets 34.
This is called managing the news.
And nobody does it better than Mrs. Clinton, and I'm not exaggerating.
All she has to do is say from now on, I'm Hillary Rodham Clinton, they snap too.
All she has to do is I'm dropping Rodham.
I'm going back to Hillary Clinton.
They snap too.
Just as simple as it can be.
And let's take a look at these polls, shall we, ladies and gentlemen?
There's an interesting poll out there.
And uh uh I'm thinking the smartest woman in the world's gonna have to have uh mixed feelings over the latest polls.
This is a Washington Post story.
Clinton is drawing especially strong from lower-income, lesser educated women.
Voters her campaign strategists describe as women with needs.
Obama, by contrast, faring better among highly educated women who his campaign says are interested in elevating the political discourse.
Well, rah-rah, we always hear about the political discourse needing to be elevated.
Uh uh women, what do you mean?
Women with desires?
Yeah.
No, women with desires.
Oh, I see what's women with desires as opposed to women with needs.
Yeah.
Well, here's the bottom line here.
She's comfortably ahead of uh Barack and the Breck girl, as we've just reported to you.
Her advantage with women voters, especially strong among the poor stupid ones.
Her more educated women, the more educated women lead to Barack, but well, I'm just trying to communicate this as it be real here.
They can say the less educated, the lower income.
The poor stupid women favor Hillary.
And she's gonna look at it that way.
So we have another of these drive-by media disconnects.
The pundits and the spinners tell us how smart Hillary is, how competent, how prepared for the presidency she is, and yet who's she resonating with?
The poor stupid women out there are her biggest support group, the less educated, uh lower income.
Now I gotta stop this because if I keep going, I'm gonna end up sounding bigoted.
Uh how do you, for example, how do you end up saying uh that Hillary Clinton needs poor stupid women voters to win.
So I hope the caller from Amelia Island, Florida uh happened to flip by uh for the open of the program today.
Sit tight, my friends, much more straight ahead.
Lindsay Gramnesty.
Have you heard about this?
Lindsay Gramnesty said his job, we have the audio soundbites here to prove it.
Lindsey Gramnesty said his job is to go to the Senate and work with Democrats to get things done.
Back in just a second.
Well, this is fine.
People sending me emails now.
What?
Fresh White.
Why are you perhaps possibly insulting women in your audience by calling the women that prefer Hillary poor, stupid women?
I don't think they're stupid women in this audience.
So I uh look at folks, and we may be serious for a second.
This this polling data shows exactly what Hillary Clinton needs.
Uh and it's it's the Democrat Party needs them too.
They're running out of victims, and that's what this whole, as far as a Democrat perspective is concerned, Democrat uh perspective on illegal immigration is all about, getting undereducated or low educated, whatever you'd say, uh uh poor people.
That's that's who they need.
That's that they're those are the easiest people to control.
And that's what liberal Democrats are uh are all about.
Uh from Cleveland, a yes, yes, I'm gonna get to the story down in Broward County about WIOD in just a second.
Uh if you haven't heard about this, this is a laugher.
Uh just sit tight.
Former substitute teacher who became pregnant during an affair with a 17-year-old has scroll football captain was sentenced yesterday to um three days in jail and five years of probation.
Christine Scarlet, 40, pleaded guilty on May 11th to five felony charges, three counts of sexual battery, two counts of disseminating obscene materials to a juvenile.
The uh charges carried a potential 17 years in prison.
Judge Dick Ambrose said he ordered probation because Scarlett had no previous criminal record and has obligations as a mother.
She has a three-year-old son from a relationship with the football captain and two other children with her husband.
This court has no desire to punish the child who is the innocent victim of this relationship.
This fits right in with the monologue yesterday on how different things are in school today than when you and I went to school.
The teachers are giving the kids sex.
They're serving them gin to teach them how to tell it truth.
They're not letting them play.
Uh well, they're not letting them play at recess.
Uh obviously these football captain got to play.
Uh You know what?
This story contrasts with this poor kid in Georgia.
They got 10 years for what?
Oral sex was it?
Oral sex.
Or consensual oral sex in the era of, you know, the Lewinsky Clinton BJs.
Consensual oral sex with a 15-year-old, 10 years in jail.
He's 17.
He's 17, serving time.
He's 17.
The uh one of the uh of uh judge says that's just crazy.
I'm not letting the kid out.
And the attorney general says, No, you're not.
The law is the law.
Well, that's true.
The law is the law.
Uh, and I guess they could have given him probation, but they didn't.
See, contrast that.
Consensual, oral sex, 17-year-old guy, 15-year-old girl, consensual, 10 years in the slammer, 40-year-old teacher, an affair that produced a child with a 17-year-old football captain.
And the three days in the pokey and five years of uh probation.
I know it sounds like a man.
Well, you know, the menendez jury.
That was great.
Well, we we really feel so sorry for Lyle and Eric because they've lost their mother, said one of the female jurors.
Yeah, that's because they killed her.
Well, yes, but it's just such nice boys.
They we like them so much on the stand.
Now, this judge says this uh teacher in Cleveland's uh got these kids to raise, uh, plus the three-year-old from the relationship.
It's court.
Uh kid would be without her mother.
I don't know.
I just said the disparity here in sentencing is uh is interesting.
Who should be surprised at this?
Paris Hilton's parents visited their daughter after breezing past others, waiting to see loved ones, an incident to raise new complaints that the heiress is receiving special treatment.
Who is surprised that Rick and Kathy Hilton would show up at the jail and just walk in, see a line, it's all lines are not for us.
Why would we be surprised at that?
We see the behavior of her of the of their daughter.
Of course, Fox just wrote, maybe it was PMS NBC, I'm not sure, which just ran this little crawl reporting this story that Kathy Hilton is rich, but had to ask a jailer for a quarter for a locker.
I guess you have to put your belongings at a locker to have a quarter.
I can understand that.
I don't care anything less than well, sometimes fifties.
Uh I certainly don't um I certainly don't carry any.
Uh I never get change.
I don't I don't take the change.
I don't I don't I don't go places where they give change.
Uh I I don't I I don't I don't mostly if I if that happens to me if there's change if they have a little bucket there at the checkout the you know for some charitable society where to throw the change in the butt.
I don't get change.
I really I do not have the other day.
I was gonna go out and play golf, and I used these plastic ball markers on the greens, and I said, I need something heavier in my pocket, and I went all over the house looking for a quarter.
I couldn't find one.
I uh I do not have a change drawer.
I don't I don't have change in my car.
You know, people have these little change holders for the whatever they no, I don't.
Carrie Jane, so I can totally understand Kathy Hilton not having a quarter.
In her case, she may not even have ever had a quarter, and may not know what one is.
You know this story about the judge that's suing these poor dry cleaning guys for 54 million dollars.
This story's three weeks old.
We had this story three or four weeks ago.
Everybody's acting like it's something brand new now.
This is what I mean by being on a cutting edge of societal evolution.
A judge had to leave the courtroom with tears running down his face Tuesday after recalling the lost pair of trousers that led to his $54 million lawsuit against a dry cleaner.
The guy is uh Judge Roy Pearson, his administrative law judge.
He had argued earlier in his opening statement, he's acting in the interest of all city residents.
Uh again, this is in Maryland, against poor business practices.
Defense attorneys call the claim outlandish.
Outlandish, one pair of pants, 54 million dollars.
How does this not get thrown out?
Uh the these are these are people, uh, this is custom cleaners.
Uh, and let's see, actually, it may be District of Columbia, but the owners here are Jin Chung, Su Chung, and Kichung.
It's a mom and pop business, and the allegation is they committed fraud and misled consumers with signs that claim satisfaction guaranteed same-day service.
An attorney for the Chungs portrayed Pearson as a bitter man with financial trouble stemming from a recent divorce who's taking out his anger on a hardworking family.
The judge explained that those weren't the pants for the suit, the ones they gave him back.
He choked up, left the courtroom crying after asking the judge in the case for a break.
Can you believe $54 million?
Walked out in tears.
Telling the story.
Apparently, this man had one pair of pants in his life that fit comfortably.
One.
And rather than go out and try to get a new pair fitted.
Unreal.
Back in a second.
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Those of you watching on the Ditto Cam, and I was checked the emails and other things, constantly working, constantly prepping this program, even while performing the program.
And uh people watching in the ditto cam can see me sometimes moving and grooving and shaking, and it's that they know that what are you listening to?
Because it's not it's not your smart cluster.
I was just listening to Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan in honor of the uh school teacher in Cleveland, the 40-year-old who only got three days in jail for knocking up the Sorry.
He having a relationship with the 17-year-old football captain.
I try to get music that relates to the news.
And I have quite a big uh library here.
Let's go to audio sound by 14, Mike Ann Cornblut of the Washington Post.
We just talked about the polling data on Hillary Clinton that they're that her strongest support from women uh is as the post described it, uh, the uh women with needs.
Uh the uh uh low-income, poorly educated, the highly educated, uh well-to-do women who only have desires but not needs.
They're all going for Obama, which, you know, is interesting.
Uh uh Hillary's the smartest woman in the world.
She's got all of this relevance so forth, and the biggest group of women that support her are the poor stupid ones.
Which I think is a key to the Democrat Party's longevity.
They those are the kind of people that they can control.
Uh so here's Ann Cornblut, who wrote the story.
She was on uh PMS NBC yesterday morning, uh being interviewed by one of the infobabs there, and uh basically got the question about okay, poor women, uneducated women uh going for Hillary, the uh the smart babes with desires going for a Barack.
Well, what about that?
Own theory is that women who have what they call real needs, health care, child care, um, a secure job, those are people who need somebody who they see as a concrete leader doing specific things for them.
The more upscale, more educated women, the Clinton campaign would say, have the luxury of thinking about somebody who's a little more high-minded.
Now, the Obama campaign would say that once everybody gets to know him more, even downscale women, they will prefer him.
But the facts are there, downscale women for now really do prefer Hillary Clinton.
All right, how do you translate this?
That's what you need me for.
Obama and Hillary are in a competition for competition for the downscale women.
Poor stupid ones.
Obama's a little upset he doesn't have them.
Well, you know, statistically, they're gonna be more of them than the uh the uh what was it, the what the high-minded upscale um women.
Um I I've been told I made a slight irrelevant error uh regarding the $54 million lawsuit, uh, pants are being altered, not clean.
What's the difference?
Guy still didn't get them back and is suing for $54 million and erupts in tears yesterday.
All right, now, folks, try this story.
This is from the front page of a local section of today's South Florida Sun Sentinel, published in Fort Lauderdale.
That's in Broward County.
Rush Limbaugh has long been a thorn in the side of liberals, but now because of him, some Democrat politicians don't even want to join with a local radio station to broadcast hurricane information.
Radio station WIOD AM610 in Miami has been the official channel for emergency information from Broward County government for the past year.
The County Commission, all Democrats, balked at renewing the deal yesterday, unable to stomach the station, also being home to Limbaugh's talk show.
Commissioner Stacy Ritter said she didn't want to support a station that's out of step with area politics.
Ritter, a Democrat stalwart in the state legislature before being elected at county office, cited talk shows hosted by Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, and WIOD's partnership with Fox News.
Look, they have every right to speak, she said, but we don't have to do business with them.
Limbaugh has long been a fixture on WIOD, but no county official raised an issue about him or other shows when the deal was approved for the first time a year ago.
Now, here's what happens here.
The deal with WIOD would ensure that news conferences are broadcast start to finish live from the county emergency operations center in a plantation during hurricanes or weather disasters.
Emergency managers became concerned during hurricanes in 04 and 05 that radio and TV stations preempted their announcements in favor of news out of Miami, which is in Dade County.
Limbaugh, who lives in Palm Beach, could not be reached for comment, and I wouldn't have had they been able to reach me.
I'm unreachable to these people all the time.
Ken Charles, WIOD's director of AM programming, said the station's talk show lineup has look, no relationship to uh with this news companies.
Here's these these Democrats in this committee.
One of them, by the way, is Suzanne Gunderson.
Now, I don't know if you remember Suzanne Gunderson.
I will never forget Suzanne Gunderson during the Florida aftermath, the recount.
She's she's one of these.
Uh she was examining every ballot for a Chad.
She's all no, she didn't.
Well, I think she was using a magnifying glass, but there was another guy sitting next to her do using the magnifying glass.
The point is, huge, huge, huge Democrat partisan, which is fine.
These people are now saying we're gonna, and the reason they chose WIOD is because it's the strongest signal in South Florida, reaches the most people.
So you got a hurricane coming in.
These people from Broward want to get their their press conferences covered front to back, beginning to end, so that they get this information, rescue information, preparation information, or whatever, it is that a largest number of people live in Broward County, and they want to pull it off WIOD and go to some station with no signal whatsoever simply because conservatives are on it.
They are politicizing the delivering of emergency news, which is nonpartisan.
I guess these people are now making the weather a partisan issue.
Hurricanes are a partisan issue.
Uh and I talked to Bob Novak after the program yesterday.
I interviewed him.
Uh he's got a great new book out, and he really opens up about the plane affair.
And, you know, he's been he's been in Washington 50 years as a journalist.
He's he's seen it all, and he's seen the changes.
And uh uh he uh he talked a little bit about partisanship and how, yeah, we've had silly politicians all throughout the nation's history, and we've had bumbling fools running around as leaders and so forth, but the partisanship uh, he said, is is as bad as he's ever seen it in his 50 years.
I said, what about during Reagan and uh and Nixon?
He said, well, uh yeah, a little bit, but but I mean that the country wasn't divided.
Reagan was winning in landslides.
Uh the Democrats are pretty united, and the country was uh united getting rid of Nixon or forcing him to resign.
But the partisanship, and I said, you mean like a poll that shows 35% of Democrats believe Bush knew about 9-11.
Yeah, the internet's increasing the credibility of of uh all these conspiracy theories, which have always been around.
So uh thinking about that when I was reading this story, partisanship comes to the weather.
Don't these people understand that because of the deal WIOD has made, all of these shows would be preempted whenever they schedule news conference.
All these idiots and the Broward County Commission have to do is schedule their press conference from noon to three.
Or if they want to preempt Hannity, do it after that.
Uh it's just, it's just amazing uh to watch liberals and act.
They they they can't stand competition.
They don't think that there is an alternative to their ideology.
There's nothing worth debating.
Uh, and uh this is uh they say this is not trying to shut Limbaugh down, but they're trying to exert some pressure on WIOD to make some changes here in their programming in order to get these dull, boring press conferences from this county commission, which, you know, would be necessary.
And Broward's all upset because they get shortchanged.
Uh Most of the news comes out of Miami during hurricanes, and they feel like they're being left out of the uh of the dissemination of emergency information and so forth.
Front page.
And the uh the guys at WIOD are going to hang tough on this.
Uh we um we we we know that uh because I just said they will.
Uh the great lesson, great eye-opening thing.
All right, all of you new toners out there, all you people who believe that all we have to do with our enemies, be they terrorists or be they Democrats, extend the hand of friendship.
Reach across the aisle.
Show them we mean them no harm.
Do whatever is necessary to eliminate these differences in these confrontations.
For all of you who think that works, two congressional committees are issuing subpoenas for testimony from former White House counsel Harriet Myers and former political director Sarah Taylor on their roles in the firings of eight federal prosecutors, according to two officials familiar with the investigation is an AP story from just you know 1030 this morning.
Democrats uh probing whether the White House improperly dictated which prosecutors the Justice Department should fire, also are subpoenaing the White House for all relevant documents, uh, said these officials, who is always spoken on condition of anonymity because the move had not yet been made formally public.
This is coming from the Judiciary Committee, and uh Senator DePenz, uh Patrick Leakey Leahy.
Uh he issued Taylor's subpoena for her testimony July 11th, his counterpart in the House, John Conyers of Michigan, issued a subpoena for Myers' testimony the next day.
The uh White House has repeatedly refused to make current and former officials involved in the firings available, except in private interviews without transcripts.
Congressional investigators have refused that offer.
You know, Harry Reid and Pelosi had better be real careful here.
Congress's approval ratings are lower than I mean dingy Dingy Harry's ratings are lowered than Newt Gingrich's were.
Pelosi's are getting close to that.
In 1995.
Uh uh the the whole the country is looking at all of government and saying you guys can't get anything done.
You're not even trying to do anything, and the things you are trying to do, we don't believe you when you tell us that you're gonna do this.
We don't believe you can do it.
When you can't issue passports in three months, how in the world are you gonna background check 12 million illegal people in 24 hours?
We just don't believe you can do it.
And we don't believe you intend to do it, and we don't trust your ability to do it.
It's actually a great opportunity here for people to see the the uh inefficiency and the and the and the total bottleneck that big government in the hands of people who want it to grow even bigger uh produces.
So here we have Dingy Harry and Pelosi, whose numbers are sinking fast, and all they're doing is harassing the Bush administration.
Now, there is a reason for this, and I'm gonna let you in on a little secret.
These eight U.S. attorneys, not all, but the vast majority of them had complaints pouring in from all over the country about the fact that they were lax on voter fraud cases.
They weren't pursuing them.
And the Bush administration was uh upset by that.
Of course, there's no crime here.
There has never been a crime.
The president can fire anybody anytime he wants to, without cause, without reason, particularly people like this who serve at his pleasure.
What the Democrats are doing with this, in addition to harassing the President and White House and causing all this havoc with the subpoenas, what they're doing is setting up the 08 election so that there will be no voter fraud investigations when they engage in it.
They're trying to make it look like the Bush administration is out there uh uh in in a in a in a hellbent kind of way, uh cheating and firing people and and trying to catch Democrats cheating or whatever.
Uh, and this is to prevent that.
This is part it's it's like uh they they oppose photo IDs at ballot boxes.
They that the only reason to oppose that's because you want people to be able to go in there and cheat.
Uh to fraudulently vote numerous times.
People who are not registered or what have you.
And that ultimately is What this harassment of the White House is all about is next year when there are voter fraud allegations, the Democrats can say, we were trying to get to the bottom of it.
The Bush administration was firing people to relax on voter fraud investigation.
That's what they said we don't believe them.
There's that they're always working in advance and down the line on things like this.
But besides all that, the idea that Bush has done everything he can.
He's working with them on their immigration bill.
He other than Iraq, he's let Ted Kennedy write the education bill.
He has had them up to the White House, popcorn for Kennedy move.
All the it doesn't work, Newtoners.
It just doesn't work.
All they sense is blood in the water and weakness, because they're not interested in getting along.
They're interested in defeating us.
Which uh we ought to be interested in.
But when you listen to uh Senator Lindsey Gramnesty, you get the idea that's not what some on our side have as their objective.
Wait till you hear these bites when we come back.
Stay with us.
Uh Snerdley was asking me during the break.
I don't understand your point about this investigation and the firing of eight U.S. attorneys being a setup for the 08 campaigns.
Very simple.
I'm glad you asked me the question, Miss Snerdley, so I can re-explain this.
Uh it's simply to discredit any investigation that happens after the 08 election, because the Democrats go back and say, well, look what the Bush administration was doing, firing eight U.S. attorneys and so forth, trying to protect themselves, blah, blah, blah.
They're using everything, trying to create a uh uh firestorm here where no crime was been committed, no impropriety whatsoever, and they're trying to make the American people think that there's corruption all over the Department of Justice, so that after the 08 elections, any investigation that might be undertaken or allegation made about vote fraud involving Democrats will be discredited because of this controversy now.
That's that's how that's my theory.
I think that's how they think about this.
All right, Lindsey Gramnesty was on the uh Today Show today.
Uh Meredith Vieira uh interviewed him.
He said, when you went home recently, you were at a GOP meeting, got booed over immigration.
A lot of people in a lot of states, conservatives who think this bill is bad, and they see it as a litmus test.
Here's what I believe.
This is a bill is a million percent better than the current system.
I mentioned working with Ted Kennedy and I got booed.
I'm a Republican conservative who believes my country is at risk by not solving immigration.
I'm a member of the United States Senate who believes it's my job to work with Democrats to do hard things.
This is no longer about immigration.
Can your Congress, can your Senate come together to do things that one party can't do by itself?
I think the answer is yes.
And if we fail here, Meredith on immigration, good luck with doing Social Security.
And if Congress punts and we don't have the political will to get this done, local and state government will act.
There's over 1,100 local laws being proposed now that would be a hodgepodge of immigration laws that would really bring this economy to our needs.
Good lord, what happened to this guy?
He's gone from being one of the House managers in the immigration of uh slick Willie, or the immigration, the impeachment of slick Willie, to this.
Do you think Ted Kennedy worries he Ted Kennedy loves snookering people like Lindsey Gramnesty?
Ted Kennedy and Harry Reid love pulling the wool over their eyes, and Lindsey Gramnesty apparently.
So I was saying you new toners who think this is the way to get things done.
What if Kennedy's bill is bad, Senator Gramnesty?
What if it's an absolute abomination?
What if it is what what if it's going to do more harm to the country than not doing anything right now?
This idea that if we don't do anything all is long six years to do something?
Why now?
Why all of a sudden now?
This is pure politics.
We got an 08 election coming up.
Both parties think that if they do the right thing here, they're going to get these Hispanic voters.
Uh Democrats uh know they're gonna get them.
The Republicans pray they can get them by pandering to them by being like Democrats.
Uh but this is this is exactly what I was talking about.
The Democrats don't care about getting along with Senator Gramnesty, but wait.
I guarantee a Democrats that heard Senator Gramnesty on Today Show today say this, licking their chops and their rubbing their hands together, and they are thinking, okay, that's one guy we've taken out.
His job is to go to Washington, work with Democrats.
That's even more important than the immigration bill.
I always thought that you went into politics because of conviction principle, driven by desire to see that your vision for your country was enacted.
Uh, not to get along and work with uh with Democrats.
And this is one of the problems that uh we on our side have this perpetual self-identification of being the minority and on the defensive all the time.
Back in just a sec.
Let me just ask you a question, my friends.
You think uh Chuck Schumer is interested in his objective?
Being a United States Senator is to work with Republicans and people like Lindsay Gramnesty.
Much more straight ahead after this profit center timeout.
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