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June 5, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 5, 2007, Tuesday, Hour #2
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I'm the senior fellow sitting in the uh what are you f what are you what are you frowning about in there?
Yeah.
The prestigious Attila the Hunchair Snurgley in there still angry about the uh first hour.
I went if I went back to Snurley's office.
I always uh like to check the temperature of the staff every day.
Make sure everything's hunky-dory and cool, and uh sitting there slouched over, so what's wrong?
So I just I just don't understand it.
I don't understand.
I've been following politics all my life, and I just don't know how the Democrats keep getting away with it.
Democrats can destroy anybody they want, and uh who doesn't do anything even, and then uh you think a poor little guy like Scooter Libby, who's just really a peon in a big scheme of things, didn't do anything, 30 months in jail, you got a president of the United States, lied under oath, suborned perjury, and is running around like a rock star.
And I said, there's a one-word answer, and that's media.
Uh and number the there's a there's a secondary reason too, and that is that the Republicans don't know how to fight this stuff.
After all these years, they don't know how to fight this stuff.
Uh and they certainly don't know how to defend themselves.
Um I think the reason is they're always on defense, but uh it's uh it's just the way it is.
I know it seems unjust and unfair, and it, but it's it's uh you know, the the as I said, the guy earlier in the in the last hour, they wanted Democrats get a dose of their own medicine.
The only time they do is at the ballot box.
They're not going to be treated the way Republicans are in the media, and you're not gonna hear stories about the American people upset uh at Democrats, be it Clinton or Congressman William Jefferson or Sandy Berg, really just not gonna seek these people out.
Uh and therefore the impression is left the country doesn't care what Democrats do, only cares what Republicans do.
But recent elections don't bear that out.
Uh some do, but I I still think November last year was about Republicans, not Democrats.
It wasn't endorsement of liberalism.
By the way, speaking of which, you know, last night, CNN aired a special on faith and politics, sponsored by Sojourners Call to Renewal.
It's an evangelical organization.
It was moderated by Soledad O'Brien.
Um, and they they they talked to Hillary Clinton, they talked to Barack Obama, and former Senator John Edwards.
They joined the forum.
And we've got audio sound bites of this.
And when I when I saw this as being done, uh, and then I happened, you know, I was last night, I was just I was just wasted.
I've I the past ten days have just warned me.
In fact, I I got here today, didn't know if I was gonna be able to pull this off.
I mean, with energy.
I'm always here.
But uh went to bed early last night for me, and I got in bed and I started channel surfing around, and I said, I really need to go to sleep.
So I turned on CNN.
And I watched, I saw Anderson Cooper 180, and they were rehashing what had happened earlier on CNN, and I'm watching this, and a thought hit me.
I said, well, now wait a minute.
The Republican Party, the Republican Party is doing everything it can to diminish the role of Christian conservatives in its uh in its structure.
Uh well, not not every Republican Party is, uh not every Republican is, but you know, they're they're face it, I mean, there are there are there are many moderate blue blood Republicans out there just embarrassed all to hell that they're 24 million conservative Christians in the Republican Party, they're known primarily as pro-lifers, and of course, these moderate country club blue blooders, it's just it's it's embarrassing to be in the same party with them.
Um we hear from the drive-by media and the Democrats that uh religious people are to be feared if they ever get in power, they're gonna Do away with separation of church and state.
And that uh they're just they're they're they don't think they're just they're they're stupid, they're dangerous, they want to impose their morality on everybody else.
And so I'm saying, why in the world are these Democrat frontrunners showing up to talk about God?
And why are they showing up on CNN to talk about faith?
Why are they concerned about why what what brought this on?
I mean, if cons if if Christians and Catholics, Protestants, are the death knell for a modern political movement, then what the hell are the Democrats out there doing trying to court those very same people?
Well, of course, they're not the death knell.
The Democrats would love to peel them off.
The Democrats would love to get the NASCAR crowd without admitting it.
They'd love to have them vote for them.
If that happened, but they're out there, they're they're they're a large group of people, and they are active and they are engaged, and they vote and they care.
They're informed.
So this idea that the uh uh Christian element of American political society is somehow to be shunned and embarrassed of and so forth is absolute poppycock.
The Democrats are out there trying to court them.
I remember after the 2004 presidential election, and the Democrats are doing their post-mortem.
What happened to us?
Uh they find out the exit polls that morality, moral views, decency on television, these kind of things matter to a lot of people went out and voted.
So Democrats start saying, you know, we're gonna have to shore up our values base.
That lasted about two weeks.
Uh and they started debating how it was they could show themselves to be more religious.
But of course, the truly conservative Christian are not going to be fooled by it because you know, you are who you are, not what you say you are.
And the Democrats are not.
I mean, let's face it.
The Democrat Party, uh for the for the for the most part, the exceptions, of course, but the Democrat Party uh resents religion.
They they they don't like the the firm resolve and the faith that people have.
It scares them.
They are scared by it.
They're scared by people who have faith in a higher power than that which is alive on earth today or the earth itself.
This is that this is no mystery.
So I see this last night, and I said, we'll get some audio soundbites.
This will let you listen to what these Democrats are saying about this.
Uh and we'll do that after the break coming up.
Quick little question here.
Normally this is uh something I would say for open line Friday, but it's a guy watching the program on the ditto cam today at uh WWW Rush Limbaugh.com.
He says, on the ditto cam, you're speaking a good distance from the microphone, yet your voice comes through loud and clear.
How is this?
Uh what do you what do you what no what Brian just went to see?
See, I told you, told you what?
What are you so what what's well we do have a great studio.
Brian's the broadcast engineer here and uh thinks he's gonna be praised and complimented for this in my in my answer to the question.
The first the first thing is I'm looking at myself on the demo on the on the ditto head monitor here, and it does look like I'm quite a ways away from it, but I'm not.
It's an optical illusion.
I'm probably you know within three inches of this microphone.
Uh but we have the two things at worth here.
This is a golden EIB microphone, it's an electrovoice EV20, I believe.
Uh but those of us who are highly trained broadcast specialists know how to use these things.
The incorrect way to use a microphone is to put it right in front of you like this and speak into it because you pop your peas real bad, and that could be dangerous on certain words.
We broadcast professionals turn it to the side and speak across it, so that our peas do not pop, and we don't have to worry about anything like that.
And uh with the compression that is built into our system here, I can move this microphone even further.
Well, you're probably hearing me not quite as loud, but the presence is still there as I move it in closer, uh, it gets a little bit more present, but not really louder.
Now, sometimes I do what we professional broadcasters refer to as eat the microphone.
And that is when I really want to make a point.
I am eating this microphone.
My lips are touching this microphone right now.
Any number of highly trained specialist techniques that we, who are professionals in this business use.
Uh the one thing, the microphone, I can't it I can't have it in the way here because I gesticulate wildly and I don't want to be oops doing that and knocking the microphone away from me.
I might damage it as well.
Uh so while it looks like it's far away on the on the ditto cam, it's actually right in front of me.
Just turned off to the side.
All right, quick timeout.
We'll be back.
Uh any other uh real radio announcer broadcast lessons that you would like, feel free to ask any question at any time.
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Not going anywhere until every American, including those in San Francisco, agree with me.
Rush Lindball, the EIB network.
Let me grab one phone call here before we go to the uh the Democrats and their faith in politics sound bites.
Here's Tim in New Orleans.
Tim, welcome to the EIB network, sir.
Hi, Rush.
Uh I have uh a couple of points.
First of all, I'm in Congressman Bill Jefferson's district.
You are uh I I'm a Republican, I'm conservative, and I voted for it.
Uh there's uh I had in just a minute.
But there's you'd be surprised how many people actually uh of his constituents are calling the local radio program and confirming that it's a conspiracy.
I'm not surprised at that at all.
Right, and it will hinder the effort to uh get more money for the area.
Uh but uh another.
I'm not surprised predicted this yesterday.
I this this is this is exactly what I expected to happen.
Right.
And uh the mayor, uh Ray Nagan has left his options open to run for Bill Jackson's spot if he should leave.
He has not said that he was not going to.
He said I'll leave my options open.
But uh I voted for Bill Jefferson because of the opponent that was running against him last year.
There was a local sheriff here, sheriff of Jefferson Parish spent several thousand dollars of his own money campaigning for Bill Jefferson because the other candidate was also as qu uh questionable, maybe not as questionable as Bill Jefferson, but uh I guess his thinking was that candidate would be in there for the duration, and the sheriff actually expected the indictment and hopefully would uh leave the position open and it should uh build.
Well, it's it's uh I all I can say is that that's some just really great choices that you had.
Right.
Right, I I agree.
And of course, uh you uh lesser of two evils uh is obviously what you're what you're facing there.
Well, look, I thank you for the report coming out of New Orleans, although even I didn't need it.
Uh not surprised at all that locals are calling local shows saying it's a conspiracy to get rid of our guy to stop aid from being sent to New Orleans and so forth.
Uh utterly, utterly predictable.
That's that's that's the thing about the left and the and Democrats today.
They are just they're totally predictable.
And I look at, I'm like you.
I mean, I I sometimes if I can see it and if you all can see it, why doesn't everybody see it?
And to answer that, you you have to understand the degree of rage and hatred that's making people irrational out there.
All right, let's go listen to the Democrats now talk about all of a sudden their faith.
Now, this group, uh Sojourner slash sojourners slash call to renewal, an evangelical organization.
You know, it's it's like uh I I don't I don't know this group, but precisely because I don't know them is why I have questions about them.
There are all kinds of religious groups all of a sudden, religious groups sprung up that are that are pro-global warming.
And I don't believe that they're actually religious.
I I think that they're libs calling themselves a religious group, trying to move forward that particular now.
What are you laughing at it?
It's starting to get distracting.
Haven't said anything funny, well, I mean that funny in at least ten minutes.
And what are you still laughing?
You're telling jokes about something in there.
Well, you're gonna clue me in.
Oh quest questioning who?
Who am I questioning?
The New Orleans.
Yeah.
Oh, they are all they are they are I'm not I'm totally I'm not questioning their faith.
I'm questioning their legitimacy.
They can they can be faithful all they want.
I'm just telling you that all of a sudden, out of clear blue, we've got religious groups that are pro-global warming.
How come I've never heard of this before?
And then we've got uh and we and and then they're they're starting to make inroads in the conservative Christian community on uh on global warming.
I grow government.
Hey, I didn't fall off the turn of trunk, wasn't born on one, so I couldn't have fallen off one.
But I mean, this is this is who it is.
I don't know about this group, but I I just what when we start talking about Democrats and faith and God, I'm telling you it's a trick.
It's a trick.
Otherwise, they'd be doing it all the time, they wouldn't be embarrassed about it.
But okay, there you have it.
U.S. News and World Report describes sojourners as a liberal Christian group.
Well, how many of those are there besides a United Methodist church?
Which is my church, so I can say it.
Of course, maybe the Episcopalians, they're they're sort of off the straight and narrow for a while there, too.
But some sects.
Um regard look at let's you just quit distracting me in there so that I can play these soundbikes.
People are chomping it to bit here to hear John Edwards and Obama and Hillary talk about their faith in God.
And so here we go.
Um Jim Wallace is the uh founder of the Sojourner uh call to renewal.
And they invited Democrat presidential contenders Hillary Barack Obama and John Edwards to join this forum.
Now, is it a little odd?
You you imagine if Jerry Falwell had called up or Pat Robertson said, Hey, call up C and I want to do a religious forum.
Would it happen?
Of course not.
I'm eating the microphone now, so that's like we know what this is.
And we know it's a trick.
What's interesting about it is they think they have to do this.
These are the people that run around ridicule conservative Christians, make fun of them.
You people drive the pickup trucks, you live in Mississippi, we're a plaid church, you've got a bottle of old crow sitting next to you, you're gonna go bomb an abortion clinic in a couple of days, you watch NASCAR, you don't have your two front teeth.
That's what they think of you, and you know it.
And all of a sudden they want you, huh?
All right.
Here's the first question from Soldinette O'Brien.
In this religious series, faith and politics, do you think homosexuals have the right to get married?
No, not personally.
Now, you're asking about me personally.
But I think there's a difference between my belief system and what the responsibilities of the President of the United States are.
Is the reason we have separation of church and state.
And they're very good people, including some people that I'm very close to.
My daughter, who's sitting on the front row here tonight, uh feels very differently about this issue, and I have huge respect for those who have a different view about this.
So I think we have to be very careful about ensuring that the President of the United States is not using his belief system and imposing that belief system on the rest of the country.
Well, okay, you just failed, dude.
If you're out there trying to attract conservative Christians, you have just blown it sky high.
It's not that conservative Christians want a president to impose his view on the American people.
It's about character, it's about morality.
And it's about having the courage of your convictions.
This is how this is how Mario Cuomo tried to get around with the Catholic Church, uh, his uh his pro-choice stance.
And he went to Notre Dame and he made this uh this big speech, and he said, My personal beliefs and my personal beliefs, I but I would not ever, ever impose them on the country.
Really, you pose your tax policy on the country, you'll impose your pacifist foreign policy views on the country, you'll impose every economic policy or socioeconomic or immigration policy you got on a country.
Why not this?
Why not this?
And I would ask the same thing of Senator Edwards.
Uh no, not personally.
Now you're asking me personally, but uh think there's a difference between mob belief system and what the responsibilities of the president.
Well, if your belief system is that in unimportant to you, then why are you running?
You know, most people that run for president, who would put up with this?
It's it's a never-ending for the moment you announce, even sometime before you announce, if they think that you're interested in it, you get a media anal.
It's not as bad for the Democrats as it is for the Republicans.
But who would put up with this?
The people that put up with it have this incredible passion and this desire, and you can say about this what you want, but the fact of the matter is the people that run For the office of president, believe the country can't get by without them.
You have to have some kind of drive like that.
And I don't mean in an arrogant uh uh egotistical way.
I'm talking about passionate belief.
You love it, and you believe it it should be as you want it to be.
And you want the power of the bully pulpit to take the pre the country in the direction you believe it should go.
And he's just sitting here saying, uh I'll I'll I wouldn't oppose my personal views.
Ah, I'm not buying this for a moment.
This is just his way.
Well, he says, I'm I'm I'm personally not for gay marriage, but but but but but uh not that would not have a thing to do with the way I ran the country.
Um that's a question at the religious forum.
Uh there's more.
Quick time out.
We'll be back.
We'll continue right after this.
All right.
Uh so John Edwards uh just told us what his views of our gay on gay marriage.
Let's go back, shall we?
This is Sunday on CNN.
Wolf Blitzer interviewing his wife Elizabeth Edwards.
And Blitzer asks her about Bob Schrum's book.
You know, Shrum wrote that uh more troubling was an exchange uh had with Edwards one afternoon.
We were throwing around questions and answers in his law firm's conference room.
I said, What's your position, Mr. Edwards, on gay rights?
Edwards said, I'm not comfortable around those people.
Uh you were there, Ms. Edwards, at that conversation.
What really happened?
I believe that uh Bob Schrum brought up uh the issues of uh gays and lesbians, and uh John said, you know, I come from a small southern town, uh Baptist, you know, as far as I know, I don't know, you know, see this is I honestly he said honestly an abstract issue from me, because he said, you know, I don't I don't really know as far as I know, know any gay people.
Um, you know, so sort of talked to me about it, and I said, Well, actually you do.
And I said, I referred to a friend of mine from English graduate school, and how we had been uh out for John Nyvan out for the evening.
I saw this old friend from English graduate school when we were still in law school, and I went over and spoke to him, and I knew that he was gay.
Uh and I said, you know, I'm I'm engaged, and there's the fellow over there I'm engaged to, and he said, Oh, he's awfully cute.
I might snake him if he wasn't with you.
And I told John that, and this is where he used the word uncomfortable.
He said that made me feel uncomfortable.
Okay.
She said it, folks.
The gay guy wanted to snake John Edwards.
And that made Edwards feel uncomfortable.
And then she continued the explanation with this.
So Bob correctly remembers the word uncomfortable, but incorrectly remembers uh this the uh circumstances in which he said it.
I mean, uh all of us feel uncomfortable about someone snaking us, I guess, in the present trying to snake us in the presence of our fiance.
Uh and uh he he that made him feel uncomfortable, and he re John talked about that.
So he's just he remembers it slightly, but it remembers it incorrectly.
And I have a from my book, you'll know I remember things very in quite good detail from from years ago.
And I remember this conversation very clearly, and I have talked to John about that, and he does recall exactly the same thing.
So that's why Edwards got the question, uh, what do you think about gay marriage?
Let's move on now.
Uh another soundbite here from the Breck girl.
Uh Wolf Blitzer, uh I'm sorry, no, O'Brien, this O'Brien, who's over Soladette O'Brien, a host of show, said uh if you if you think something's morally wrong, though, and you morally disagree with it as president, don't you have a duty to go with your moral belief?
No, I think that first of all, my my faith, uh, my belief in in Christ plays an enormous role in the way I view the world.
But I think I also understand the distinction between my job as President of the United States, my responsibility to be respectful of and to embrace all faith beliefs in this country, uh because we have many faith beliefs in America,
and for that matter, we have many faith beliefs in the world, and I think one of the problems that we've gotten into identification of the President of the United States with a particular faith belief, as opposed to showing great respect for all faith beliefs.
Uh now I assume here that we are talking about Bush and uh and perhaps even Ronaldus Magnus.
And uh, of course, uh Bush is one of the most tolerant uh presidents we've had of uh faiths other than his.
Look what he's trying to do in the Middle East.
Look at the faith he has and the uh Islamo fascist population to straighten out.
At any rate, uh you you you see what's you see what's happening here.
The uh the Democrats continue, well, I'm I'm this and I'm that, but I I don't believe it enough to really to really have my views based on it, my morality or or what have you.
So there's a this a play for the Christian conservative vote, and they say, yeah, I believe in God we're faithful, but I I I don't know uh I don't know uh uh why they're doing it.
Because I I've uh well I know there's a lot of bucks in there, but I mean the point is they're angering their base with it.
The base hates the Christians.
Their base is no desire.
I'm talking about these wacko cook fringe based people.
We're constantly told that we've got to de-emphasize these people from American politics.
And here come the Democrats out now trying to court them.
Um here is uh here's one more.
This is John Cook.
I'm sorry.
Uh the Reverend Suzanne Johnson Cook, president of the Hampton University Ministers' Conference.
The next question.
It takes a village is an African proverb.
In fact, one of your colleagues has written about it, but it speaks about the uh the blessed of us really helping the rest of us.
Now, quite frankly, the African American community felt with Katrina that our American village disappeared.
You were President of the U.S. What are the first two things that you do to rebuild a Gulf in New Orleans, not just the damage that was done physically, but also the hopes of the people that were deferred.
Well, let me say, first of all, this this cause of New Orleans is also very personal to me because you may know that I announced my campaign for the the ninth ward of New Orleans.
Yeah, why?
I took 700 college kids down to work during their spring break in New Orleans a little over a year ago.
And I've been to New Orleans and to Louisiana uh repeatedly since the hurricane.
Answer the question just a few weeks ago.
There the single biggest thing to be done is the President of the United States needs to put one person, a very high-level competent person in the White House in charge of New Orleans.
And that person, the President should say to that person, I want you in my office every morning telling me what you did in New Orleans yesterday.
And the next day saying, I want you in my office telling me what you did yesterday.
I'm not interested in what you do going to do six months from now.
I want to know what you did yesterday.
And I want to know what's happening on the ground.
The President.
What's happening on the ground every single day.
What has happened in New Orleans is a national embarrassment.
Now remember now, this is a conference, a TV show on faith and what?
Faith in politics.
So we'd have somebody in the White Arch you know, New Orleans, you're not in charge of yourself anymore if John Edwards is elected.
There can be somebody in his office of the White House is going to be in charge of fixing you up.
Uh let's let's keep going.
I mean, if I start commenting on all of these things, we're never going to finish this.
Uh Soldat O'Brien to who is the to uh Barack Obama.
The President talks a lot, as you know, about sort of good versus evil in war.
Do you agree with that?
There have been times in our history where uh that requires that we take up arms.
Uh I think that the Civil War was a just war.
Good.
That defeating fascism and uh ensuring that Europe was liberated was the right thing to do.
Well, big and also interesting about Lincoln, though, uh during the course of the Civil War was his recognition that uh simply because we've engaged in something just doesn't mean that there aren't times where we may act unjustly.
Abu Ghraib obviously is uh something that all of us should be ashamed for, even if you were supportive of a war.
I believe Guantanamo, uh the decision to uh detain people without charges is unjust.
And so uh the danger of using good versus evil in the context of war is it may lead us to be not as critical as we should be about our own actions.
Okay, here you go, folks.
These are the people that want to defend you.
These are the people that want to claim to you that they'll do whatever it takes to protect you, and yet whenever these questions come up, what do they do but attack their own country?
Next question, Mrs. Clinton gets it.
Uh Solid O'Brien, I am going to ask you a delicate question.
Infidelity in your marriage was very public.
And I have to imagine it was incredibly difficult to deal with.
And I would like to know how your faith helped you get through it.
Well, I'm not sure I would have gotten through it without my faith.
Um And you know, I take uh my faith very seriously and very personally, and I come from a tradition that is perhaps a little too suspicious of people who wear their faith on their sleeves.
A lot of the uh talk about and advertising uh about faith doesn't come naturally to me.
It is something that uh, you know, I keep thinking of the Pharisees and all of the Sunday school lessons and readings that I had as a child.
But I think your your faith guides you every day, certainly mine does.
But at those moments in time when you're tested, uh it uh it is absolutely essential that you be grounded in your faith.
Okay, you people buying this.
Uh here's uh uh more.
She continued her answer with this.
For some people being tested and in cruel and and tragic ways leads them away from faith.
Uh for me, uh, because I've been tested in ways that are both publicly known, and those that are not so uh well known or not known at all, we know my faith and the support of my extended faith family,
people whom I knew who were literally praying for me in prayer chains, who were prayer warriors for me, and people whom I didn't know who I would meet or get a letter from uh sustained me through a very difficult time.
Um but I I am very grateful that I had a grounding in faith that gave me the courage and the strength to do what I thought was right, regardless of what the world thought.
And that's all one can expect or hope.
Right.
All right.
Now, whether she got some applause.
Now whether you think there's something noteworthy about what she just said.
I mean, it's all one can expect and hope for, regardless of the world fought and do what I thought was right.
Well, how come that's not applicable in Iraq, the war on terror?
How come what the world thinks is so damned important to all you Democrats, but when it comes to your faith, you don't care what the world thinks you're gonna do it.
Look, I don't care whether you're buying this or not.
The point of this is uh for those of you who are faithful, for those of you who are deeply religious, you can judge whether or not this sounds sincere to you on your own time.
The the important thing about this that you have to keep in mind is that they are courting you.
That they are out there trying to make you think that they are one of you, and you have to balance that against all the years and years and years you know of where they have impugned you and laughed at you and made fun of you and wished that you weren't around.
Uh and see you you can take this uh and interpret it however you wish, but don't take the political aspect out of it because that's the primary point here.
Back in just a sec.
All right, doing a little research here to find out about this group.
Sojourners, whatever it is, uh sojourners call to renewal.
Uh who are the sojourners?
It's an evangelical Christian ministry that preaches radical left-wing politics.
It championed communist revolution in Central America.
Is there any wonder CNN found this bunch?
To uh co-sponsor this uh this this uh this business.
The founder is Jim Wallace.
Uh the the mission statement here is that the Sojourners is professed to a devotion to the pursuit of social justice.
Uh giving voice to sojourners' intense anti-Americanism, Jim Wallace called the United States the great power, the great seducer, the great captor, the great destroyer of human life, the great master of humanity and history in his totalitarian claims and designs.
The founder of this group has that opinion of the United States of America.
And his uh, by the way, the source on this is uh discover the network.org.
Um his bio on this site, activist preacher and editor of the left-wing Christian magazine Sojourners is a Democrat Party operative.
He's an apologist for communist atrocities In Cambodia and Vietnam is a dedicated foe of capitalism and contends that biblical sculpture calls for large central government to aid the poor.
I knew it.
I knew it just because the guys on CNN.
I just knew it.
My instincts are such.
I know these.
I didn't need to read that to know it.
I got some details, but I knew it.
One more from Mrs. Clinton.
Um this is a montage of her of her answer.
But uh she was asked this question by Monsignor Kevin Sullivan of Catholic Charities USA.
Now remember, this is faith and politics.
Uh Mrs. Clinton, you have uh spoken a lot about our need to work for the common good in an age in which there is oftentimes narrow and excessive individualism.
This guy should have excessive narrow and excessive.
This guy, you realize this country could not have been built if these people were around in the 17 and 1800s.
What do you think got them through the 1800s?
Uh anyway, let me get to the question here.
In an age in which there is uh oftentimes narrow and excessive individualism, how will you speak to our country about the need for sacrifice and restraint when it comes to the critical issues of taxes, gun control, health care, and energy consumption.
And all this is presented to the CNN audience as uh faith and politics.
Here's a montage of her answers.
Take health care.
I think we could get almost unanimous agreement that having more than 45 million uninsured people, nine million of whom are children, is a moral wrong in America.
An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person.
I mean, that is a fact.
So what do we do?
We have to build a political consensus, and that requires people giving up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.
The same with energy.
You know, we can't keep talking about our dependence on foreign oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it poses to our climate and to God's creation, and just let business as usual go on.
That means something has to be taken away from some people.
Something has to be taken away from some people, and the CNN audience went berserko.
Something has to be taken away from some people.
That's Mrs. Clinton.
Here is uh uh uh Chris in Old Bridge, New Jersey.
Welcome to the program.
Hello?
Yeah, hi, Chris.
Are you there?
Yes, Russ.
Hi.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes, you bet.
Listen, uh, I just wanted to comment on uh when you Rush was talk uh, I'm sorry, when Hillary was talking, you were playing a soundbite, she was talking about uh how she acts on her faith and and and all that.
I was just something sparked.
I was thinking that maybe that might be the most honest thing that she's ever said, because she never said what her faith is in.
I was just that she acts on her faith.
I was waiting I was I was I was waiting for this.
I said I said to the staff during the break, I said, anybody any of you guys hear what she said her faith is in.
Uh that's why I was I was reluctant.
I I don't, you know what I don't like to challenge people's faith.
I that that that happens too much.
Faith is deeply personal.
That's why this is not a church.
I'm not sitting here at a pulpit, uh, and I don't do sermons.
Uh but I know that people who are deeply faithful can analyze what Mrs. Clinton's saying, and they can they can figure out whether they think it's legitimate and genuine or not.
And you've nailed it.
What does she have faith in?
She didn't say.
Edwards did.
Edwards talked about his belief in Christ.
Obama didn't say, and Hillary didn't say.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Well, I just wanted to run that by you and see what you thought about that.
Well, I think it's very, very astute observation on your part.
In fact, it's one that I had myself, and anybody comes up with something I'm thinking before I've thought it, and therefore before you know it, is pretty bright.
You ought to be feeling really good about yourself today because you are the same wavelength as a host without the host having said something to get you on that wavelength.
Well, thank you very much.
This is such a honor to talk to you.
Thank you very much.
I'm glad you called there's something to brag about, dear friends and family tonight.
I'm not kidding.
This doesn't happen much.
Well, I I've got my wife listening on the on the uh computer in the other room, and she's going to come in gloating for.
Well, that'll that'll get you a gold star for a couple hours.
Uh at least.
But congratulations.
That really, really, really, really well done.
Um I was hoping somebody in the audience would ask this question and not me.
And that guy was right there.
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