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May 3, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 3, 2007, Thursday, Hour #3
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Thank you and welcome back to the EIB network to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Rush back tomorrow, I believe.
Is that is that right?
Rush back tomorrow?
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Now, let me uh get into another issue because it is uh topic one out here, and that is the May Day open border protest rally, which in LA and Chicago, a lot of other places last year was hundreds of thousands of people, was uh, you know, 10, 20,000 people out uh here in LA, a couple hundred down here in San Diego.
Not a uh not a big deal.
Uh until and again I'll tie this back to our earlier theme about the fury of the left, until a few dozen of the uh radical activists decided to confront the police to make their point.
In MacArthur Park.
Uh MacArthur Park is in one of the most dangerous areas of Los Angeles.
It is a an area in which you can buy a new identity, just a matter of how many dollars you have, a social security card, uh green card, uh what have you.
Oh, the other big let me interrupt myself.
The other big news, I'm just watching this now on the Fox Screen.
The other big news out of California, of course, is that the tanker truck that blew up in uh in the Bay Bridge in in Northern California, San Francisco area, uh the tanker truck blew up and melted a part of the freeway.
If you saw that uh the asphalt both kind of flowing down, it melted the uh steel that was encased in concrete on the and for and forever, I hope.
I I mean get this in your head.
Forever did away with the credibility of Rosie O'Donnell, because Rosie was the one who was accepting this cuckoo notion that planes running into the towers in New York could never have brought down the World Trade Center.
It had to been Bush blowing up the uh the building.
It had to be I mean, uh number seven, uh it couldn't possibly have uh uh c come down by itself, blah, blah, blah.
Uh she said steel doesn't melt.
It's physically impossible for fire to melt steel.
Well, aside from the fact of how steel was formed in the first place in a fire, as I understand it, I'm not a steelmaker, but it's kind of the way it looks.
Uh this uh the idea that this uh gasoline tanker truck uh in effect melted the freeway.
Anyway, back to the point.
In LA, there was a classic leftist uh violent attack on the police.
Everywhere in the world on May Day, when you're in a socialist workers' paradise, there's always parades which in which the slaves uh uh are uh express their gratitude uh to their uh people's uh masters in the socialist workers' paradises, North Korea and Cuba and the rest that are left, the remnants of this uh uh once lofty ideal that slavery could make you free.
This is uh and now in the free countries, of course, the advocates the advocates of slavery uh uh always riot against the police.
So in free countries, you see the police and shields and masks and clubs and water cannon and what have you on May Day.
So the the uh the radical communist slash anarchist, whatever, what have you, who've who advocate this kind of thing anyway, on May Day couldn't help themselves.
They just couldn't help themselves.
They went after the police, confronted the police.
Uh the police, of course, are now under investigation, because that's the way it works here.
Uh police chief Bratton, who uh made a fine name for himself in New York and has uh fall as uh it's a it's a bratfall out here in uh in LA, has uh now apologized, has started three investigations, because of course the police made a fatal error.
A fatal error trying to confront the violence of these activists.
Uh the fatal error was they included the press in their clubbing.
They included the press in their clubbing, including the folks who were there, of course, to uh in the press to be mouthpieces for the anarchists and the uh and the advocates for open borders.
But in any event, because they hit the press, oh my, it's hit the fan here in LA today.
Uh Bratton's been on every uh the police chief's been on every uh station apologizing, uh pointing out he's do he's doing a uh he's doing a uh an investigation, and no no, no, not one investigation, we're doing three investigations.
Um, however, that there was a couple of problems with this PC interpretation of what happened yesterday in MacArthur Park in Los Angeles.
One of the things that's not being talked about, because of course it leads back to the question of why these people are in the United States, is when the police ordered a dispersal of an unauthorized uh rally.
I mean, they had a permit to rally in a certain place, they wanted to confront the police, so they went and started rallying in another place, knowing the police would say, hey, you can't you gotta move over to where you have the permit.
And they no, no, and they confronted it, so the police had to clean them out.
So it was all set up to happen.
Including the part of when the police and their bullhorns and so forth, uh ordered the crowd to disperse, said look, go over and demonstrate where you have the permits over there.
Not over here, it's over there.
That's why we put it over there.
Um and uh they did it in English.
Another fatal error.
Apparently, very few people in the crowd of anarchists uh claimed they could understand English.
So some of the problems in LA are coming your way.
If they aren't in your community already, they're coming your way.
Now, there's another aspect of this, and I was in what in uh Washington, D.C. with uh 38 talk show hosts last week.
Hold their feet to the fire was what we called it, over 500 listeners advocating for border security, advocating in favor of our jailed border patrol agents, let's get them freed and jail the illegal alien drug smuggler instead.
We were out there advocating for our point of view of a security for this nation, border security.
Uh you've work in this nation when you're legally in this nation and not otherwise.
And uh so we had our point of view and we were expressing it.
In the midst of all that, something rather different was expressed by some uh African Americans who were there.
Black Americans were there in our group, making a point about illegal immigration that I think I thought I would like to share with you.
And the best way to share it is to uh introduce you to Terry Anderson.
Terry Anderson is, according to uh WorldNed Daily, an auto mechanic turned radio talk show host and activist who lives in South Central LA.
And I want to address the issue with Terry in a moment, so I'm just gonna set this up for you.
You've heard the president and everybody on down the line who's in favor of open borders and amnesty for everybody who can break into our country.
You've heard him say, look, these illegals are not a problem.
They only take jobs Americans refuse to do.
Uh Terry Anderson has a different view.
Uh Terry, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Roger, what are you here?
What do you say, buddy?
It's very nice talking to you again, my friend.
Now always a pleasure.
Again, uh let me just ask you the question directly.
What is the impact?
You live in South Central LA, where of course there have been uh frequent uh riots over the years and so forth over issues involving opportunity and uh and discrimination and the rest of it.
What is the impact of illegal immigration in your neighborhood?
We're victims.
We are we are victims, Roger.
We are victims, plain and simple.
You know, uh we hear about the victimization of the poor people coming across the border and how the employers victimized them and uh and uh and a lot of other, as we call it on the show, PCBS.
But let me tell you something.
Anybody that has ever tried to find work in construction, hospitality, and even fast food now is a victim.
Number one, the wages are depressing.
Number two, some there are some fast food restaurants here in Southern California where a black American or even a white American, and I'll go farther than that.
A Hispanic American who doesn't speak Spanish cannot work because he, quote, doesn't speak the language of the kitchen, unquote.
We're victims.
So what is the impact, though, of uh you say you're victims, but I mean, what does that mean?
Are you telling me that illegals are taking jobs that otherwise black Americans or for that matter, Hispanic Americans would take?
Absolutely.
And I don't mean the snivelling whiny kind of victim.
I don't mean that kind of victim.
I mean the kind of victim who's been victimized and will stand up for his rights.
You know, my wife had never been to Washington, D.C., and you you met her when we were there.
She had never been back east before, and she she was in awe of the black people working at BWI airport, at the black people working in the hotels, the black people driving taxi cabs, the black people doing work at the Capitol building.
She was in, oh, We haven't seen that in Los Angeles in 20 years.
Twenty years seen black people doing those type of jobs.
Why?
Is it because we don't want them?
No.
It's because we have been pushed out of them.
We cannot get them.
Go to LAX right here.
You won't find any black janitors or any of that anymore.
And there are people who do need those jobs.
There are people at the low end of the scale who do need those jobs.
All of those jobs at LAX are held by Hispanic people who speak no English.
And and would you in terms of those impacts then?
It's not only that they've taken the jobs, but what about the pay?
Well, the pay has been is been totally devastated, Roger.
I mean, look, you you you I have a friend who's a f a framer.
He's been framing houses and buildings for years.
Boss came to him one Friday and says, I gotta let you go.
I these three guys over here are going to work for what you what I pay you.
Three guys.
Three guys are going to work for what they pay him.
This guy's in his sixties.
He's an expert house framer.
Can't get work now.
It's been totally, totally dismantled.
Not only can't we get the wage we used to get, we can't even get the minimum wage that they're getting now.
They won't let us have the jobs.
And let's talk about the schools also.
We got these kids.
These kids in these black schools were in the black community, which used to be the black community.
There's no such thing anymore.
These kids now are getting a half a day's education because of all the bilingual education.
We had Prop 209 here that was supposed to get rid of bilingual education.
Never happened.
These kids are coming to these schools from these third world countries, and God bless them, it's not their fault.
They're they're they're dumb, but they're coming here and they are illiterate in two languages.
They don't speak their home language and they don't speak this new language of English.
Now, what's gonna happen to the American kid who sits in that classroom and has to listen to the teacher trying to get these kids caught up to speed with them.
His education is gonna suffer, and it does.
And if you think I'm wrong, you look at the test scores in Los Angeles.
All right, now Terry Anderson, hold on, we're going to have to uh cool off the microphones here and the speakers in the studio as we take a short break.
I'm Roger Hedgecock with uh LA talk show host Terry Anderson.
Is he telling it like what he is?
I'd like to hear from you at uh 1800-282-2882.
I'm Roger Hitchcock.
In for rush.
Back after this.
All right, he's an American.
Uh he's a black man.
He lives in Los Angeles.
He's a uh talk show host in LA.
His name is Terry Anderson, and we're talking about illegal immigration and its impact in LA.
I you know, I I wonder too about the impact of what's happened across this country, but with a quarter of the illegals in this country living in California, it's happened here first and and and most.
Uh uh, Terry Anderson, tell me about the Fourteenth Amendment.
Tell me about these illegals who come here, have the babies.
The babies are U.S. citizens, and that brings in the whole family.
Fourteenth Amendment was met for my ancestors.
Uh my great-grandfather was a slave in in Louisiana.
And the Fourteenth Amendment was meant for him and his and his offspring, of which I am one, to make sure we had some status in this country.
It has been hijacked by people who are not, quote, under the jurisdiction thereof, as it states in in in that amendment.
So now we've got these people coming here, they're having their jackpot babies, and that's what they are, because as soon as they drop the kid, they had this a jack they've hit the jackpot in in the United States.
They've got an anchor to the United States.
They may be deported, but they can come back when that child turns 18 because the child's in a quote American citizen, unquote.
And that's a that's a travesty.
And and to just to show you that they don't appreciate what they've gotten, because American citizenship is the greatest gift gift other than life that you can get in this world.
And they don't appreciate it because they go out in the streets and they they they they get in these large groups and protest against us.
Okay, I came here, I had my jackpot baby, now I demand more.
I want legalization, I want a job, I want a guarantee of wages and all this.
I'm gonna tell you something, Roger.
This may be a little un PC, but when I saw the police handling those people in the in the the riot down there, I was cheering like it was the Super Bowl.
And this was long overdue.
I was like, yes, yes, yes, not not because of who they were, but because of what they were doing, and the police says, you know what?
Enough is enough.
This was Wilshire Boulevard, a main thoroughfare through through Los Angeles, and they're in the street.
They knocked down a motorcycle officer.
The police have told them to get out of the street and they didn't Do it.
Now I've been many times at many different things, the beach and other places where the police came and said, okay, disperse.
You know what I did, Roger?
I dispersed.
Because the police don't play and they're not supposed to, and they don't have time to listen to everybody's story about why what why they are there.
They say disperse and the press didn't disperse, they should have dispersed too.
I am proud of the LAPD.
All right, Terry Anderson with us.
Now, here's a headline today, uh, Terry, uh, out of San Salvador.
Reuters reporting that the city of Los Angeles is now going to work with the country, uh, Central American country of El Salvador to help combat violent Central American crime gangs.
Has the city of San Diego been that successful in LA?
Uh a city of of LA been that successful in LA of of combating the crime gangs.
We have special order 40 here, Roger.
Special Order 40 says the LAPD should not, will not, cannot ask the immigration status of anybody they stop.
You know what this means?
If there's a gang member who's been to the pan, done hard time five, ten years, and been deported, and they see him back on the street a week later, which most of them do come back, they cannot stop this known gang member who's been deported because it would be an immigration stop.
They cannot do it because unless he commits another crime.
So we gotta wait for him to murder somebody else.
This is outrageous.
And for them to talk about they're gonna work with another country, why don't they come work with some of us Americans?
When do I get somebody to work with me to help my life get better?
I don't get that.
None of us get that.
All we hear is what they're gonna do for these new people that we call the chosen people, these illegal aliens who get more than you and I can ever get.
It's not gonna work.
They gotta deport them.
That's what they have to do, and keep deporting them until they're all gone.
All right, Terry Anderson.
Now wait a minute, wait a minute.
You mean to tell me that you're in favor?
What of this uh of rounding people up?
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
So what do you mean by deporting?
Here's my plan, okay?
And I'm gonna put a patent on this when I came up with it five years ago.
It's simple.
We give these people a 90-day amnesty.
Ninety days.
If you got a house you want to sell, sell it.
You got a car you want to sell, sell it.
You got a dog you bought, get rid of him.
You got 90 days to get your affairs in order.
After that 90 days, you become a felon in this country.
You become Dr. Richard Kimball.
You will be a fugitive in America.
And if we catch you, if we catch you, you're gonna do a year in jail.
Now, here they come.
Oh, we can't we can't put them all in jail.
Well, first of all, you won't have to, because a lot of them are going to self-deport before day eighty-nine is up.
But the ones we do catch, we build more tents out there in Arizona, we let Sheriff Joe Orpayo handle them, and we put him in jail one year, second time five years, third time ten years.
Anyone caught in the country after that ninety days will be banned from America for life.
You will have no reprieve, you can never come back.
We will seize all assets on day ninety one, any homes, any cars, the used box of pampers, whatever you got, we're gonna take it away from you.
That's how you get serious.
Now, Roger, you tell me what percentage of these people are going to self-deport once they figure out we are serious.
The vast majority.
And the rest, you know how we catch them?
We go into the schools.
We make it where they can't medicate, they can't educate, where they can't they they can't rent a house, they can't buy a house, they can't start a business, they can't get a job.
What are they gonna stay here for?
What's the point of them staying in the United States?
They have to leave.
They will leave on their own.
All right, Terry Anderson.
Now now, Terry, uh just trying to uh uh our tone of civility today.
I just wanted to ask you, uh you're you're after the illegal aliens.
Now, there's legal immigration in this country.
A lot of people come to this country, always have, probably always will.
Uh are you are you against people coming to this country?
Legal immigration is good for America, Roger.
With within reasonable numbers.
Those that we can reasonably assimilate.
No, I am not against legal immigration.
No.
Okay.
Now, let's talk about Terry Anderson, the person.
And you mentioned your wife, and you live in a neighborhood there in uh in South Central, right?
Right.
What's happened to that neighborhood?
I mean, does it contribute to your uh being so impassioned about this?
I mean, what's happened to you in your neighborhood?
That says it perfectly, Roger.
What the way I feel, the way I speak.
I'm not an actor, I'm not somebody who can turn this on and off.
I'm angry.
I am angry at what's happening.
I'm angry that my neighborhood now has things we never had before.
Uh we've got houses with four and five families living in them.
We've got houses with five, six, seven, eight cars per house parked on the street.
We've got we've got houses now where people sleep in shifts, come in the night in the daytime all day long, and they change families from different times of the day.
We've got chickens running in the street, Roger.
I never had chickens in the inner city before.
I've seen goats tied up in yards.
I see corn growing in in the front yard of people's houses.
The house at the corner right here from me had a crop, a whole crop of corn grown in the front yard.
Now, if they want to grow it in the backyard, that's their business.
But I mean, this is outrageous.
The whole third world of co has come here.
We got ducks.
We got we got rabbits.
We got all of this stuff.
It's horrible.
The other thing is, here, here now the.
All right, now, Terry, Terry, I've got uh I'm gonna have to break.
I appreciate your being with us, Terry Anderson to talk to your host.
Thank you so much.
Uh we'll be back on the Rush Limbaugh program.
This is Roger Hedgecock.
We'll be uh hosing down the uh microphones here.
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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Rush back uh tomorrow.
I'm Roger Hedgecock uh filling in for Rush from the San Diego studios of Kogo Radio KOGO.
This is uh the EIB network, and your calls are taken at 1-800-282-2882.
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Now, uh I like to figure out how effective we're being in politics by looking at the opposition.
And today I've been taking calls from liberals.
I mean, this is something we you know we need to not only for our own education, but just to get all other kinds of people educated about the lift.
And so I always uh ask people to go to this website to learn more.
Socialistworker.org.
Socialistworker.org is the uh official website of the Socialist Workers' Party of the United States of America.
They are unabashedly in favor of taking all private property rights away, uh making everything the government, because everything good is already the government, and why shouldn't we have everything good instead of just partially good?
So the uh whole world would be uh the government.
And uh I like to, particularly on this immigration issue, get their take.
Uh they have been particularly after the immigration and customs enforcement raids that have recently taken place under the Bush administration, very recently, after years of inactivity on employer sanctions and trying to make it clear that in the United States, if you're an employer, great, but you employ people who are legally in this country only, which is the law, by the way.
A law that has never been enforced since it was put into uh put into the books in uh 1986.
So this is uh now uh Bush, in order to get some kind of uh support among the conservative base is trying to use these raids, very well publicized raids, to uh what at the backpack factory, where was the New Bedford uh backpack factory where the uh the uh what was it, six hundred uh employees, three hundred and sixty-one of them were illegally in the country.
And they began deportations.
Now, the most surprising thing, by the way, about that raid from all this way across the country.
The most surprising thing to me was of the 361, the number one nation contributing to the illegals in our country in that workforce was Portugal.
Huh?
Brazil was on the list in the top five.
Cape Verde, I didn't even know there was a country named Cape Verde.
And I'm pretty good at geography.
Uh I mean, I know where Chicago is, stuff like that.
Um, this is uh incredible.
The list of nations went on and on and on.
I understand that everyone in the world would like to be an American, no matter what the propaganda is, from the left in this country, from the EU, from crazies like uh My Mood I'm in a jihad, or any of these other people.
I uh you go Chavez, any of these I understand they hate America, but their people don't.
They're trying to break into this country from the most remote corner of this planet.
And that is a good thing in the sense of indicating that we're still on the right path in this country.
But having the people come to this country to create a better American legally is the key.
My ancestors, your ancestors, Everybody's ancestors, uh, even the indigenous people's ancestors at some point in time, came to this country, came to this area.
There nobody sprang out of the rocks here, okay?
Everybody came from somewhere else.
Ah.
Legally to create a better America.
Illegally to begin a life that starts by breaking the law.
The unfortunate aspect of that then is that we get like interviews I did with this guy who's the the uh head of the prison system in California because we're having this huge overcrowding problem in the prison system, and Governor Schwarzenegger is talking about well, I may have to release felons on the street unless we build more prisons, so let's spend seven billion dollars spending uh uh more with more prisons.
Uh and so I did this guy, I forget his name, Tilton or something like that.
James Tilton is the head of the prison system in California.
So listen to just a snippet of this conversation.
Here it is.
We have uh somewhere close to 20,000 inmates who uh we believe uh will be referred to INS for potential deportation.
Doesn't mean all those will be deported, but certainly there's uh the number is roughly 20,000.
Out of how many?
Out of 171,000.
And your overcrowding problem is how much?
I have over sixteen thousand in bad beds today.
So if we didn't have people illegally in this country in your prison system, there wouldn't be a problem.
Right.
End of discussion.
All right, let's take some calls.
Angie in uh Beaufort, North Carolina is it Beaufort, North Carolina.
Hi, Angie.
Hello, Angie, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
No, I don't hear Angie.
Okay.
Let's try Evelyn in Irvine, California.
Evelyn, hi.
Hello, Roger.
You had a great guest on there with Terry Anderson.
Thank you.
I want to say another few words about the terrible impact of illegal immigration in our country.
MacArthur Park, where that uh illegal alien rally was.
Yeah.
For 40 bucks, 40 dollars, you can buy a matricular consular with all of your identification on it, uh, which is a phony card, but it looks real.
Usually they're issued by a Mexican consul.
With that card, you can go to any bank, major bank, open a savings account, and you can send up to three thousand dollars a day to anywhere in the world and receive up to three thousand dollars a day from anywhere in the world.
What a boon for drug runners and terrorists.
And um uh the U.S. Senate is fixing to uh do a uh guest worker amnesty plan this week.
We all need to call our senators and tell them to stop it.
Well, I agree with you, Evelyn.
In fact, uh the inside story on the Sorry, go ahead.
Roger, as to the matricular consular, the day after the Madrid train bombing that killed 200 people and injured over a thousand, the LA City Council, in its wisdom, voted to accept that matricular consular for ID from anywhere in the world.
Yeah, I know, Evelyn.
Thank you.
I appreciate the call.
That's exactly right.
Let me give you some insight on the United States Senate right now.
John Kyle is the key senator here from Arizona.
He's a conservative leader.
He has criticized last year's immigration bill for being being too lax on enforcement, too forgiving of illegal aliens, allowing them to jump the line ahead of people who've been waiting patiently to be legal in this country.
And uh Kyle is now doing these negotiation pretty sensitive negotiations uh in the Senate to try to see if we can come up with a bill that will actually you know you remember 86.
Uh Ronald Reagan promised us border security, uh valid ID so only people legally in this country can work in this country, and amnesty for the people who are here illegally uh and need to be regularized.
Well, we got the amnesty.
When the problem was two and a half million people.
We didn't get the border security, we didn't get the enforcement at the workplace that only legal people in this country can work, uh people legally in this country can work, citizens and otherwise.
So we didn't get those first two.
Consequently, our problem went from two and a half million people to what, twelve, fifteen, twenty, whatever the number of millions of people is, and nobody seems to know.
We seem to be able to trace uh a calf from Canada who has uh mad cow disease, uh, but we can't trace fifteen million people that have somehow broken into the country and are mysteriously around.
Crazy.
Melinda in Gainesville, Florida, next on the Rush Show.
Hi.
Yes.
I'm calling about uh the soundbite you played uh Hillary's speech about babysitting the ill illegal immigrants.
Yeah, hold on, hold on.
Melinda, Melinda, hold on, let me because people have joined us since then and you're asking about it.
Let me play the clip.
It was a speech part of a speech she gave here in San Diego at the California Democratic uh convention.
Here it is.
When I was growing up, the neighborhoods I lived in were surrounded by farm fields.
And every harvest season we had a lot of the migrants who'd come up from Mexico through Texas following the harvest all the way up to Illinois and Michigan.
And the children would go to school with us, and every Saturday morning, my church group, we'd go out and babysit the younger children so that the older children could join their families in the fields.
All right, Melinda, go ahead.
Yes, I am just saying that there were illegal immigrants.
Uh I lived on a farm south of Chicago, and there was a town maybe twenty miles from us that every summer would bring in a campful.
In fact, you know, we would take our leftover clothes and take it over to the kids, but there was definitely a camp that came in there every summer of illegal immigrants.
And it you were at somebody said, Oh, these combines.
They did a lot of different things.
They had huge asparagus fields that they worked in.
Uh they had uh they detasseled sweet corn.
They um when the farmers would rotate crops from corn to beans, then when it was a bean crop, you had to go in and cut out stray stalks of corn, which was a long, hot, hard day, and they did that.
Um so I uh and I moved from that area around 72, and I lived there probably during the time that Hillary was in Chicago, and you didn't have to drive very far to see uh farmland and and such at that time, and uh now it's all been developed into neighborhoods, but uh I don't know how far she had to drive to go babysitting, but there were definitely camps.
I can give you the name of the town where the camp was.
Well, let me let me ask you, because you live there, let me ask you how far was it from Park Ridge that these camps were?
Uh probably about eighty miles uh south.
Okay.
So it might have been a little long to go for babysitting.
Well, that was just one.
I don't know if there were others closer to Chicago.
I'm just saying around in the area where I live.
All right, Melinda, I gotta take a break.
Thank you.
I appreciate the call.
We'll continue with that to end our immigration theme.
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Sylvester in Chicago, Illinois is next.
Sylvester, welcome to the Rush Show.
Uh you know, I've never I've never called anywhere in my life.
Uh but this particular issue, for some reason, it just really bothers me.
I have a couple of points and I'll hang up after that.
Number one, uh I don't understand the laws well enough to comment, but I know that illegal means illegal.
So I don't understand, first of all, how you can come and be illegal, which is against the law, have a child when you're already illegal, and then that child becomes legal.
No, that's point number one.
Point number two out here as an African American.
Uh, you know, I hear a lot of people speaking out in about illegal immigration.
I hear it mainly from Caucasians.
I don't see any of the African American leaders really speaking out of just any of this, and it's just very discouraging.
It's almost like everyone is in a political uh gang mode, whereas if it benefits me, I'll speak about it.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
And this problem is affecting the black community more so than any, because everywhere I go, and I'm in Chicago, uh if I don't speak Spanish, I got a problem.
I'm I'm speaking in broken English.
I catch myself speaking in it so often that uh I'm forgetting how to actually speak like a normal human being.
So I'm I'm just a little frustrated about it.
Sylvester, let me ask you a couple of questions now.
What part of Chicago do you live in?
Uh I live on the north side, but I was raised on the south side.
Okay.
Now uh are you finding an impact of illegals in the job market?
Is that what you're saying?
You see, it's it's very difficult for me to discern.
We're not allowed to ask these questions.
Uh You're not allowed to ask certain questions, so you don't, but you always wonder when you work with people that can barely speak your language, uh, and they don't even take the time to actually even try to learn your language.
It's like they speak all around you in their native language, and that's fine.
Uh and so there's no even push for them to even learn uh the English language.
So why should you assimilate when there's no pressure from either in for them to uh uh you know get in line, so to speak.
I mean, I had to learn English.
My parents told me you need to learn English very well in order to get uh, you know, to understand and be able to communicate well.
But uh it seems like the the immigrants are ne it's not just Hispanic, it's all over the place where they come here and they don't even speak in English.
They they don't have to.
It's very it's very discouraged.
And uh and I'm nervous, of course, but uh I'm just really upset about by the lack of uh uh leadership from the government, uh Democrat and Republican.
You know, I just don't see anyone really, really taking area ser this serious.
This is what happens.
We have this big movement, and the only time we get stirred up is when we have a march like we did.
But previously we had a march, two, three weeks later that completely died down.
Nothing else was said about it, nothing else was done about it.
Now we're getting back upset about it.
It seems like our politicians just sit on their duck and wait uh and do nothing.
And and I you know, I don't I don't know who to vote for anymore.
Uh I really don't, because I I can't believe uh what's happening, nor can I believe what they say, because nothing is being done.
All right, Sylvester, first of all, let first of all, let me thank you for calling.
Uh let me welcome you to the program and I and I urge you to continue to listen because you're gonna find leadership and ideas and solutions on this program and on others.
Uh you're going to uh uh I think find some hope here because uh I agree with you that on this issue, and in fact, many, many people are saying to me, uh look, uh this immigration law reform thing, trying to figure out uh how to solve this problem.
It's not uh going to be done this year because everybody's playing politics, everybody's pulling and hauling for their own agenda.
Neither of these parties find it in their interest to try to solve the problem, and therefore uh it it's not going to be solved.
Well, it is going to be solved if we all stick together and demand that there be a solution, Sylvester, that we don't all feel like we're just inevitably on this road uh to having our country transformed by people who've broken into the country in the first place.
So I I thank you for the call, and I thank you for being there.
Thank you.
Sylvester from Chicago.
A lot of wisdom in those words.
Here's James in Silver Springs, Maryland.
Hi, James.
Hello, Roger.
It seems to me like this whole issue of Democrats being angry and bitter and hostile is a coordinated effort by the entire media to get the American people to think that this new bitterness is tied to President Bush.
It helps support the spin that the American people are against everything Bush does.
And at mediareform.com, we're leading a revolution of conservative talk show listeners to take our country back from this media rot.
Okay.
He's gone.
All right.
Uh well, let's take a short break then.
I'm Roger Hitchcock, and for Rush Limbaugh.
Back after this.
Well, running out of time, and I didn't get to uh the SUV that jumped the curb and uh killed people.
I didn't get to China trying to uh poison our pets or Wolfowitz or any of these uh topics that I had.
Okay, so there's only three hours, that's all I can tell you.
Uh I appreciate the opportunity, uh Rush uh to fill in on the show.
We'll be back uh tomorrow with Rush Limbaugh on this program.
And just a a parting word, uh let me just say again uh that today we've lost truly a great American.
Wally Shira was the only one, I believe the only one of the NASA astronauts who was in all three programs, Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo.
He uh went uh to the moon, at least he was on the um the lander, but he was up in the uh circuit circulating thing.
He went uh you know, in our last uh trip to uh Florida, I went to the Kennedy uh uh center there, Cape Canaveral and took the tour.
And they have a Saturn V rocket, I don't know, three hundred yards long or something, with all of its uh portions uh broken apart in this little tiny capsule at the end of this huge Roman can.
I mean, that was courage.
That was America at its best, taking huge risks to uh gain an impossible dream.
Uh bringing together technology and idealism and uh and a noble goal in achieving it uh and taking enormous personal risks to do it.
Wally Shira dead today in San Diego, a San Diego County resident, one of our original astronauts, one of uh one of the truly great Americans that I hope uh we hold up as heroes.
Among all I know all the other heroes that you may have in America, and there sure are some strange ones uh in the Time magazine top 100.
Uh today I'd focus just on one: Wally Shira.
Goodbye, my friend.
Thanks, Rush.
Rush will be here tomorrow.
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