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May 2, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 2, 2007, Wednesday, Hour #2
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And greetings to you, music lovers, thrill seekers, conversationalists all across the fruited plane.
The award-winning Rush Limbaugh program back.
And by virtue of the consensus of the American people, the most accurate and the most correct radio program on the air, a radio program of record.
Again, according to the consensus of the American people.
By the way, uh Democrats uh Democrats say that uh the uh this the will of the people uh passed their legislation less today, the will of the people, and of course the question is not the will of the people.
Why did they have to bribe a bunch of other Democrats with 24 billion dollars of pork if it was the will of the people?
And if it's the will of the people.
To get out of a rock and defund the troops, then I assume that the Democrats will have no trouble coming up with a two-thirds majority in both houses to override the president's veto, eh?
Will of the people, my formerly substantial rear end.
Telephone number if you want to be on the program, 800-282-2882.
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If you want to be on the program, the email address rush at eibnet.com again.
Going to Detroit tomorrow, rush to excellence appearance tomorrow now.
We're going to stop in and see a couple of our clients too, uh, quicken loans and Bob Lutz at General Motors.
And we didn't know this.
All of a sudden, yesterday, as soon as the program, we have security cameras all over the place here.
And I was expecting uh uh one of the suits, one of the executives from the uh for my syndication partner to show up at a little meeting yesterday afternoon, but guy shows up with an army.
Uh uh just uh a caravan of vehicles shows up here.
I'm oh, gee, what am I being set up?
I'm bringing a bunch of people I wasn't told about.
It turns out that the suit had been down at a radio advertising bureau meeting in uh uh in Miami yesterday morning, drove up here to Palm Beach for the uh post-show meeting, and he had hooked up with some Cadillac people, and they brought us a car.
Uh and it's gonna be we have it for a month.
We had a lottery, snurtedly gets it for the first week, raving about it.
The SRX crossover is what it is.
It's a combo station wagon and uh and SUV.
The thing is amazing.
Snerdley got a couple calls about it.
He didn't tell me this till the top of the hour, got a couple calls from people wondering uh well, wanting various various details about it.
You can see it at the Cadillac website, the SRX crossover, the one they brought us, the V6.
I sell them a V eight as well, but they brought us a V6 and it's uh black with uh with black interior.
And this is not just uh, you know, I'm not just shucking and jiving here.
He is raving about this car.
Uh I wonder, you know, after we drive this for a month and give it back, I wonder what they'll sell it for.
Already making plans.
Ooh, look what's on.
Uh what did you say?
Yeah, yeah, but why rush drove me.
Uh uh, at any rate, uh uh, ladies and gentlemen, the uh president is not backing down.
He was out at the uh AGC convention, that's the Associated General Contractors of America convention.
I just want to play a little portion of his remarks.
Day by day, block by block, we are steadfast in helping Iraqi leaders counter the terrorists, protect their people, and reclaim the capital.
And if I didn't think it was necessary for the security of the country, I wouldn't put our kids in harm's way.
There you have it.
So uh, you know, the Democrats uh were hoping the president would back down.
I they know he's not gonna back down.
That's why this is all such a sham.
Uh I think this might be a good time to swerve into the whole concept of truth by repetition.
You probably know these words.
Uh if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
And this, of course, uh came from Hitler's war room, the Nazi spinmeister in chief Joseph Goebbels.
But do you know the rest of the quotation?
Let me share with you the rest of the quotation.
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic, or military consequences of the lie.
It thus becomes vitally important for the state to Use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state.
This is Goebbels speaking for his cronies in the Nazi Party.
That's the whole quote.
Now you might be saying, Rush.
Why are you quoting it?
Well, because we have a version of that going on here.
It's it in Let me reread this with uh the proper adaptation.
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
The lie can be maintained only for such time as the Democrat Party can shield the people from the political, economic, or military consequences of the lie.
It thus becomes vitally important for the Democrat Party to use all of its powers to repress dissent.
For the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the Democrat Party.
And that's why I'm reading it to you.
Repress dissent.
Repress dissent.
Well, who's the dissent?
I am the dissent.
There are a number of us who are the dissent, and what do they do?
Well, they cut they're trying to gin up the fairness doctrine to silence us.
They are they are they've got a bunch of websites that are bought and paid for by Clinton Inc.
and George Soros that are attempting and have been attempting for many years to discredit those of us uh who dissent.
Uh and they're doing any number of uh things, engaging any number of tactics to shut down opposition speech.
They just don't want to hear it.
Political correctness uh is nothing more than liberal censorship.
But I'm gonna risk it, folks.
I at at the at the risk of being repressed for dissent.
I shall proceed.
Now, the modern Democrat Party is not loaded with Nazis.
And I don't want anybody to draw the draw that comparison or make that inference.
But they sure do rely on truth through repetition, and they rely on the media to repeat without challenge.
Repeat without challenge, repeat without challenge, repeat without I think you get the point.
Here are some liberal truths by reputation that are anything but true.
Bush said that Iraq was an imminent threat.
I think Teddy Kennedy was the first to say that Iraq was an imminent threat.
Bush said it would be easy, is the another truth by reputation.
Bush said it would be easy.
No, he said it would be difficult, and he said it would take years, if not generations.
Another truth by repet uh repetition is that the president painted a rosy scenario.
Now you tell me, are you aware of any good news?
Are you aware of any positive stories?
Come on, you're among the most informed Americans out there.
Where was this rosy scenario?
And of course, another truth by repetition, Americans want change.
Well, the president changed Secretaries of Defense, got rid of Rumsfeld, hello Robert Gates, changed the lead general to Petraeus, changed strategy.
The Democrats still say there's been no change.
Uh the Democrats say and say and say, no change.
Now, Goebbels, you weren't a nice person, but your words inspired the modern Democrats.
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
How about we're losing?
How about we're making no progress?
You know all this, folks.
I mean, there don't need you can probably come up uh with many examples of your own.
You just keep repeating the big lie big enough, and people will eventually come to believe it.
Back after this.
All right, I appreciate your patience out there on the phones.
Still lots to do here, but I want to reward people's patience.
They've been waiting a long time.
We'll start in Alexandria, Louisiana.
This is Mike, and you're first today.
Nice to have you with us, sir.
Thanks for having me, Rush.
Look, rush me in, I love you, but you're wrong on the Chirac issue.
Hey, hey, oh, ho, oh, oh, could you uh hold back off the phone a little bit?
Your phone's too close to your mouth.
Yes.
Uh I love you, Rushman, but you're wrong on this Iraqi issue.
I'm wrong on this or on this uh it's over.
Uh but I'm not wrong about how do you think I'm wrong about it?
Because American troops, no matter how good they are or trying they are, are not gonna stop these people from wanting to kill each other.
And and and Bush is only doing this because he doesn't want the disaster to become Iraq going on during the election.
It's all politics now.
But it's gonna be going on during the 08 election.
Yeah, but he's trying to make it put a smiley face on it, and it's not going to turn out well.
Well, you know, uh now I know why you disagree with me.
You're you're from the we can't win crowd.
Uh and there's no hope here.
And I, you know, Mike, uh, aside from the phone you're using, you sound like a pretty intelligent guy, and that's why it distresses me to hear you talk.
You're an American, and you're you're you're we can't win.
We can't stop these people from killing each other.
We can't do this, we can't do anything.
The American military is not going to be able to succeed.
Um this is not about Iraq stability.
We would have never gone to war for stability in Iraq.
That's not what this is.
I'm gonna I'm gonna repeat this again.
Whether you uh want to listen to it or not, I am.
This is about U.S. national security.
You have to look at this in context.
What is so hard about this, folks?
What is so hard about listening to this radio and uh show in context?
What is so hard about knowing the history of this issue when it has been it it it has been front and center on American television and news networks and all this for four or five years.
Go back to 9-11 and go back to the day after the the week after what the president said.
He said, Al Qaeda's behind this, we know it, and we're gonna find them where they are, we're gonna root them out.
They are in Iraq, and they are the ones stirring up the mess in Iraq.
They're the ones that making this look like a civil war.
There there is there are some signs that the Sunnis are getting fed up with the Iraq, with the Al Qaeda people's the Al Qaeda people are trying to impose their their super strict Islamo fascist version of Islam on them.
Uh and I know that may sound a little odd, but Al Qaeda is they're the terrorists.
They are terror, wherever they go, and they're terrorizing people of their own religion.
It's being reported.
I mean, you heard Murpha, he says the Al Qaeda's not even there.
Al Qaeda was in Iraq before 9-11 happened.
They had no operational connectivity to 9-11, and nobody ever asserted that they did.
Now, the president, for what whatever you think about him, Mike, and I've I've I've said this a couple times in the last week, and I'll repeat it, long after we're all dead and gone, when historians who are not yet born begin to write about this era,
they're going to place George Bush in the upper echelon of presidents who had a great vision for America, who looked beyond our shores, who didn't just restrict himself to domestic policy niceties.
A disaster happened on his watch.
A disaster that had happened on previous occasions to thousands of Americans around the world, but not on this country's soil.
It happened on this country's soil.
The President of the United States could have easily said, you know, our intelligence says this and says that, but these are this is just the way of the world.
We've got to, as some Democrats are now saying, some Democrat presidential candidate, well, you know, the these we got to deal with it.
Well, columnists are saying it.
Rosa Brooks, the LA Times.
We've got to learn to live with this is the world today.
Well, the president said, no, we're not gonna put up with this.
We're not gonna put up with 3,000 innocent Americans being slaughtered by terrorists.
Wherever they are, we're gonna find them wherever they are, we're gonna root them out.
Then he further said, We are going to make an attempt to turn down the temperature that is the boiling cauldron of all this hate in the Middle East.
And Iraq was the place chosen to make this change, and I don't want to go through all the Saddam Hussein stuff.
I probably should, because people have probably forgotten that.
He was lying about weapons of mass destruction, bragging about how he had them.
Every intelligence agency in the world knew that he had them.
It was a fact.
It was not a lie.
And so, Mike, your short-sighted view of this is embarrassing to me.
You're an American citizen and you don't think we can win, and you don't even know what's at stake here.
You've got yourself you're probably the product of the big lie being constantly repeated by Democrats and their and their accomplices in the drive-by media.
This is not an easy thing to do.
The president never said it was going to be easy.
He said it was going to be hard.
It could take a long time, maybe generations.
But everything about it is admirable.
And they're admirable.
And there are people on our side starting to fall off this now.
Then I don't think we could democratize Iraq.
Well, they're not president, and they weren't elected to be president.
And anybody who's not got accountability and doesn't have authority can sit there in belly ache and whine and moan and give up and respond to what they think of the will of the people is all day long.
George W. Bush's president doesn't have that flexibility.
He doesn't have the ability to change his mind every five seconds based on some latest poll or what some nilly willy critic happens to be saying from wherever.
This remains an admirable objective.
It is a problem that is getting worse.
Worldwide terrorism, the State Department even said the number of terrorist attacks of people killed increased last year.
It is expanding.
It hasn't happened here, so Americans, a wash in prosperity and affluence, can ignore it.
Don't have to pay attention to it.
There hasn't been another 9-11.
But people are dying all over the world because of these terrorist attacks by Al-Qaeda and related terrorist groups.
And right now, there are two people in the world that are serious about doing something about it.
John Howard in Australia and George W. Bush.
And they're military commanders.
And they're not wavering, even when people in this country, awash in affluence and prosperity, don't take the time to remember what they knew, and don't take the time to fully understand what's going on.
They live in a soundbite world, the soundbite world they're treated to in 20 minutes every night on so-called newscasts.
But this is an amazing objective.
And if it works, it's going to be one of the most redefining and important periods in American history.
This is something that can't stand.
The world, the free world cannot just sit around and be targets every day for terrorist attack here or there, under the assumption this is the way the world is, and we just have to learn to live with it.
We've got to learn to accept that 3,000 Americans are going to die at a cliff from now on.
That's if if that if that ever became the operative procedure of the leaders of this country, we're cooked.
And there's nothing in our history as a nation that suggests that that's the way we operate or think.
Not just in the way we defend ourselves, but the way we defend our allies, the way we seek freedom and prosperity for as many people around the country who are willing to work for it and want it.
So what's happening here is not, as you characterize it, a bunch of people killing each other's been going on for 1400 years and our military can't stop it.
This is about your freedom, Mike.
It is about the freedom of members of your family that are going to be extended or not even conceived and born yet.
And it's time a little maturity swept over this country, and they started looking at the future as people used to do.
We're so fat and lazy and happy.
We've got all the time to focus on our own pleasure, our own hedonism, our own siboric pursuits.
Each and every day we can make life about what we want without any regard for those Americans who don't yet have have not yet been born or even conceived.
And that's not the way this country has always operated.
In the past, every generation has tried to make the next generation a better one than it had.
And that's what this is all about.
That's what George Bush is attempting to do, preserve the United States as it has been known, not leave it a random victim of daily or monthly or yearly terrorist attacks, because that's just the way the world is.
And yeah, he's got some American people against him, and he's got the whole Democrat Party against him, and he's got some cowardly Republicans who don't have the guts to stick with him on this against him as well.
But it hasn't stopped him, has it?
30% approval numbers hasn't stopped you.
If Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter got down to 30%, what do you think they would do to reverse it?
Whatever it took to reverse it, even if it meant changing their policies on a dime, even if it meant giving up on core convictions, whatever they might have been.
When I hear calls like this from people who are so damn sure, so damn confident we can't win, I ask myself, where did this start?
Who was it?
Where did it happen that this creeping, increasing number of people become fatalists and defeatists about their own country?
I know we've always had liberals who have that attitude.
We've always had socialists in our midst who have that attitude, don't like the country for whatever reason.
But it has never been the majority opinion of the population of this country.
And it isn't now, despite the Democrats talking about it as though it is the will of the people.
It is not the will of the people when you got to bribe the representatives of the people with pork to get them to vote for this bill.
And it is not the will of the people when you're going to fail to come up with two-thirds of a majority in both houses to override the president's veto.
This is a serious undertaking.
It is valorous.
And in time it will be so recorded as American history.
Back in just a second.
Yes, right, uh ladies and gentlemen.
America's real anchor man.
Documented to be almost always right, 98.6% of the time, and that is with half my brain.
The other half tied behind my back.
Just to make it fair.
Tim and Tucson, you're next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Oh, hello, Russ.
Uh yeah, I was just going to say uh about your Barack Obama, the magic dragon piece.
Um I think that's really dangerous.
Um the reason why is uh Have you heard it?
Yeah, yeah, I've heard it.
Um Do you know the roots of it?
Yes, yes.
What are they?
Um, it's uh basically uh due to white guilt.
No, no, no, but I mean who you who who was the first to originally use the phrase uh Barack the Magic Negro?
David Erinstein, a non white male.
There you go, way to go, way to go, way to go.
That's good.
And and do you know why I have Reverend Sharpton singing it?
Uh no.
Well, because after Joe Biden, another Democrat said after Obama was in the race, it's great, we finally have somebody clean and articulate uh running for president.
The New York Post ran a story about Sharpton being a little jealous because he takes a bath every day and he was a presidential candidate.
And here's Biden and these other Democrats talking about how clean and arc articulate uh Obama is in the New York Post story said that there might be a little jealousy here.
So, you know, there's a timeline that everything in that in that parody is indeed a parody of what liberals and leftists are saying.
Okay, well, let me tell you why I think it's dangerous.
All right, you you being a uh uh white male and being uh you know collectively the smartest, most powerful people on the planet, uh you're very influential, and uh I'm afraid that that piece it it plays to your uh some of your race, your racists in your audience and uh that need a measuring stick.
All right, I think it's really it's really dangerous.
Yeah, what I'm gonna what's what's dangerous is you characterizing members of an audience that you don't know as racist.
And you're doing this again from a standpoint of ignorance.
I'm glad you called, because I'm uh I actually am glad to have the opportunity to tell you this.
As I have said repeatedly, it breaks my heart to see how minorities in this country are treated by the people who claim to be their champions, because those people who claim to be their champions are the exact opposite.
It is not I, nor is it this audience who are racists.
I didn't come up with this whole concept of Barack and this magic Negro thing.
It is leftists in this country who are obsessed with skin color and gender and sexual orientation and grouping people into those categories, and then seeing them as victims.
And when you see them as victims, you don't see their full potential, you deny it.
You see people who are incompetent, and it breaks my heart.
We are conservatives.
We want the best for everybody.
We believe that we're human beings.
I don't look at Barack Obama and say, is he black enough?
Liberals write pieces about Barack Obama and ask if he is he black enough on the basis of does he have roots to the civil rights protests and movement in this country.
It ought to be irrelevant.
But what it what kind of racism is that to disqualify a Democrat presidential candidate who happens to be black because he doesn't have ties to the civil rights movement.
I'm not the one doing it.
It's liberal Democrats that are that are writing these pieces and making these claims.
I'm not the one that said, hey, we've got an articulate black guy on our side.
Now, Joe Biden, a Democrat Said this.
I am not holding Obama up as an object of abuse.
They are.
They are disrespecting Obama and who he is as a human being by judging him strictly and solely on his genetic makeup and his skin color.
And to a certain extent, whether or not he has direct ties to protests in Selma, Alabama and wherever in the 1950s and 60s.
Brown versus Board of Education.
My audience doesn't look at him that way.
If my audience has a choice of voting for Barack Obama for president, if he ends up being the nominee, people in this audience, Tim, are going to make up their minds on the basis do they agree with his policies?
The people in this audience are interested in the future of the country for themselves and their kids, and we care about ideas here.
I am a conservative.
I think liberals are wrong, and I think they pose a threat to the things I believe in.
I like to parody them and make fun of it by illustrating absurdity by being absurd.
This is what I do.
It's what I've done for 18 and a half years.
There would never have been a Barack the Magic Negro had Sharpton not gotten all bent out of shape over Biden's comment and had all these columns been written in the newspapers about is Barack Obama black enough.
And I'm making fun not of Obama.
I'm making fun, and he knows this, by the way.
I'm making fun of the people who are disrespecting him as a human being, and that ain't me.
We in the conservative movement, sir, we want prosperity, excellence, achievement for as many people who desire it.
Liberals in this country look at people and don't see that that's possible in many cases.
And so they said they're victims, we need government programs here, government programs there, and they have no confidence in people to succeed.
We want a great country.
That means as much achievement and as much accomplishment, as solid a moral code as we can have.
Not that everybody's going to follow it, but we need the line.
We need the guardrails.
It's all about kids.
It's all about the future, kids and grandkids.
And that's what we want.
and And this is why Obama, when given the chance to rail back at me, didn't.
He laughed it off.
Said, hey, Russia's an entertainer.
You know, you're going to be able to take being poked fun at here.
Al Sharpton is David Ahrenstein and all the other authors of these pieces that is Barack Obama.
Black enough.
There are no racists in this audience, sir, not as a general racist everywhere, but I'll tell you what, this audience is not comprised of racists, it's not comprised of people who hate.
The largest audience in radio talk show history could not maintain itself for this many years if it were based on hate, if it were based on lies, if it were based on untruths.
The people in this audience are among the most informed, surveys have indicated the people in this audience are among the most educated.
And you people on the left who refuse to accept this are never going to understand what you're truly dealing with in a competitive sense when you try to take the show out.
Your attacks are feeble.
They're not based in any kind of truth.
And to call here and to say that I am giving aid and comfort to the racists in this audience is as insulting as anything you can say to me, because it means that you think this audience is a bunch of mind-numbed robots who don't have anything but hatred, racism, or some other ism in their heart.
When in fact, when I listen to Democrats today and Democrat supporters, I hear so much rage and hatred that I don't believe it.
I've been listening to it for three years.
I hear so much racism.
I hear so much sexism.
The next story in the stat I've got two stories here.
Why women hate Hillary.
By a woman.
I got a story about this female candidate for the president of France, Sigaline Royal.
Now, women hate her.
It's women writing this stuff.
I'm going to talk about it.
People like you, Tim are going to sit there and tell me that I'm abusing Mrs. Clinton.
I'm taking your buddies in your media and I'm regurgitating what they say.
One of these stories is of the in These Times, another one is from the Washington Post.
You know, better to examine your own house for racism, sexism, bigotry, and all these things before you start throwing these accusations around.
Because you have no clue what you're talking about.
Bob in Santa Rosa, California, you're next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
Hey.
Yay, Megan Ditto's from the liberal armpit in Northern California.
Yeah, I've been there.
Yeah, I know you have.
Hey, uh Rush, tell me tell me you were only kidding uh when you referred to Ted Coppel as your buddy.
Well, he's not a buddy, but I know him.
He's uh he's uh he's a friend.
I haven't talked to him in years.
He's a fraud, Rush.
What and I and I can prove it.
Uh he he attempted to alter the two thousand and four election by airing uh uh uh uh investigative report that was a bigger uh forgery than uh than Dan Rather.
He make he Coppel make Dan Rather look like a choir boy by comparison.
What what was that?
It was called uh uh What they saw a day on the river.
It was about Kerry's Silver Star, and he had uh John O'Neill as his guest.
Okay, I remember that now that you bring it up.
Well, if you look at it, his first witness claimed that her husband was killed that day in in the fire fight.
Yeah.
And to support her position, she walked nightline down to his grave.
The date of death on his headstone said May twelfth, nineteen sixty-nine.
And the silver star event was on February twenty-eighth.
I mean, i i i if I mean if if if if if their uh investigative report is that shabby, how can you believe anything else they told you?
Uh I've well I've been asking that question about much of the drive-by media for for the longest time.
All I can tell you is that that and I remember the story that you're talking about that and the two thousand four campaign had uh the the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
Here we're back look at the the the truth is the biggest enemy to these guys.
And the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth knocked that campaign of Kerry sideways, and they had no idea how to deal with it, other than to try to characterize it as a bunch of lies.
But Kerry's own autobiographies, I mean all of his own, he changed his story about when he was in Cambodia, whether he was in Cambodia, did Nixon send him with he said he was in Cambodia when Nixon was present.
It's not possible.
He'd been back.
Uh but that that that uh that ad campaign, you know, it it it sent the uh uh the agents of the Democrat Party into you know circling the wagons and trying to help their guy.
Uh as for Coppel, uh I used to be on nightline quite regularly early on in the career of uh this program, my history of this program.
The first time I was on nightline and debated Al Gore on the environment, in fact.
And I was on subsequently for a while.
They had a little falling out over an incident, and um I mentioned it publicly and it offended Ted, and I haven't I I was never invited back.
But he mentions listening to me now and then, but he wrote a piece and delivered it on NPR yesterday morning that he's dead on right.
So when I say he's a buddy, uh he's an acquaintance.
I haven't talked to him in a long time, but uh I'm not gonna back off from it.
I've I've I've never had, other than the the one little falling out, uh never had a bad experience with him whatsoever.
A lot of phone call conversations with him, and he was uh if in fact early on in the in the career in the the early days of this program, he was in in a way somewhat fatherly.
He was very he loved the program.
He tularanal is SL six hundred and uh five for whatever it was, he's moved Mercedes, and he he listened and and uh told me about it.
He didn't agree with everything, but it was uh they they were all pleasant discussions.
Anyway, I I I appreciate the energy and the emotion out there.
We'll uh we'll take a brief time out and be back with more in just a second.
Back to the phones.
We go to Sarasota, Florida.
This is uh John.
Great to have you, sir.
Nice to uh welcome you to the EIB network.
Thank you, Rush.
Pleasure to speak with you.
You bet.
I wanted to respond to the gentleman who called earlier who was saying that the the war is unwinnable and all these people just want to kill each other.
And uh what I have to say is I mean, I grew up in the Middle East.
I spent four years in the United Bahamas, four years in Qatar, a couple of years in Bahrain, and I actually lived in the Saudi Arabia for a year.
I was actually there on two thousand uh on September eleventh, two thousand one.
And it's just not true that all these people are each other's throats.
The the people almost espouse something different in public when than than in private.
I mean, one of the worst things for a Muslim is to be called is to be deemed a bad Muslim.
And so, you know, often they will say, you know, down with the West, or they will um, you know, espouse the party line in pri in public.
But when when they're in private, they wonder what everybody else wants.
They want freedom.
They want, you know, opportunities for their family.
Well, you know, you say that, and I know that there are some people, even in this audience, particularly if they are on the left.
And it's happened when the Soviet Union fell.
Well, freedom's not for everybody.
And these people have never had freedom, they're saying out there.
I can t I know it.
Why what do you mean freedom?
These are nomads.
Why these people are savages?
Why they don't want they don't want freedom.
That's the the operative theory here is that uh we're all created by a creator with certain inalienable rights, and one of them is uh this this year spirit to be free.
Now, if they've never known it, if they've been oppressed for generation after generation after generation, either by an oppressive religion or governments or whatever, yeah, it's gonna take a while to surface because they're scared to death to express freedom or the desire or the desire for it.
I'm sorry, that's absolutely it.
I mean, if if you look at the places where it's had a foothold, if you look at Dubai, you look at Bahrain, I mean, you you look at those places, and everywhere where it's been tried, it succeeded.
I mean, you look at Sharjah, which is one of the smaller emirates.
I mean, it it's a great success story when these when they came out of British rule in the early 70s.
The seed was planted, and now those those and those countries are Muslim countries, but they live with freedom.
I mean, yes, it's it's a different freedom in different places than we have in the States.
I mean, women are not allowed to drive somewhere, you know, alcohol is restricted.
But but the point is that that you're making.
Let's look at Dubai.
Dubai has got Islamo fascists running around with it, but Dubai as a nation is peace.
I've been there.
There's not sectarian violence in Dubai.
There's not there's not sectarian violence in Jordan.
There's not sectarian violence in Saudi Arabia.
Now that's a pretty oppressed place.
Cutter, you mentioned uh but but the the there are extremists among the Islamists who are trying to foment all of this fear and tumult and chaos, and it's aimed at anybody who will not swallow their rigid interpretation of their religion.
They could be other Muslims, it could be Christians, Catholics, Protestants, Jews, it doesn't matter.
Uh and they're broadcasting to the world what their intentions are.
But the idea that that the that uh all of these uh Arabs and all these Islamists are shooting each other and that we can't stop it, and it's been going on 1400 years.
Maybe the case of Iraq uh there has it has been a uh a long history of of uh the Sunnis and the Shiites being at each other's throats.
One of the reasons is uh that one of them is such a huge majority that they're oppressing the others, and the Kurds are up in a north bid in their time, waiting for them to wipe each other out, move in and take over.
Uh and the situation uh with Saddam was Saddam kept all these people in their houses in quiet because he was butchering anybody that got out of line.
He was raping at rape rooms, mass murders, all these things.
Well, that's gone.
Okay, so now they're resuming the fight.
There's a historical thing here.
What's what what is is maddening uh to all of us who know the history and look at this contextually is that the big lie is the American presence, the American military presence in George Bush's policies are causing the sectarian.
It's American presence causing all this, and it isn't.
Uh and it may be something that has to play itself out, but it is not typical.
And every civilization's gone through.
We had our civil war.
Every civilization goes through these things.
Uh uh, especially when they're emerging from what these people are emerging from, which is a pure tyranny under Saddam Hussein.
It's only natural that people are asserting themselves for power.
People have already forgotten, they're been uh forgotten.
There've been free elections.
There there is a constitution.
There is a uh there's a government in place.
Faster than anybody thought possible.
That's poo-pooed.
Every every achievement that's taken place over there has been poo-pooed.
Every achievement by the military is unrecorded.
In fact, in many cases, it's mocked and uh and and made fun of.
But the and now the you know, the drive-bys are trying to say on cable TV last night that this this is putting a pressure on Maliki, Maliki has to go.
They want tumult and chaos.
The drive-bys want it for two reasons.
A, it disrupts Bush policy, B, it makes great news.
They love tumult and chaos.
They're trying to make us feel tumultuous and chaotic in our daily lives each and every day.
But the the idea that that uh uh there's a certain group of savages over there that's gonna spend the rest of creation killing themselves, uh, is I mean, you can say that's gonna happen in every part of the world.
It has since it began, but doesn't mean that if they start trying to kill us, we don't try to stop it.
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