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April 6, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 6, 2007, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24 7 podcast.
Well, thank you, Johnny Donovan.
What a pleasure it is to be here and actually be able to look through the glass and see Russia's A Team, because I happen to be here in Manhattan.
It's uh I hope a very good good Friday to you.
Hope you had a good holy week and we'll have a good and meaningful Easter.
Good Passover.
Whatever you might have been celebrating, I hope it's gone well for you.
Boy, on the East Coast in the Midwest, it's been cold and snowy and most unusual for April.
I do want to welcome you in to the East Coast campus of the EIB network, the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
I am Paul W. Smith, often coming to you from Detroit, Michigan, still the automotive capital of the world and really a great place to visit and do business.
I broadcast my morning show this uh past few days from the 2007 New York Auto Show, uh, and then this morning from my uh sister station and old radio alma mater, WABC here in New York.
You have entered, of course, the Limbaugh Institute of Conservative Studies, where there is never a final exam, but we are tested every day.
I am like you, uh fellow student of the institute, today elevated to TA teaching assistant.
I am supported by merely a portion of Mike Maymon, meaning there's got to be something in the air.
I understand.
See, I never get to see Rush anymore because I'm here filling in for him when he's gone.
I used to see Rush before I started doing uh filling in, and we would share cigars or whatever.
By the way, notice, guys, every time I come here I look all around and I do not see any, not even one cigar just laying around.
Not you don't know.
Oh, it's New York.
I forgot.
Of course, they may have been.
But I'm uh looking at Mike May Moon, our broadcast engineer, and he looks good.
You look very good.
And I know Russia's lost a lot of weight, too.
Uh pretty amazing.
And of course there's H.R., Kit Carson, the chief of staff, who never needs to lose weight.
It's amazing to me.
And I and Cookie Gleason looks great, the producer gets those sound bites for you whenever you have sound bites here on Russia's show.
Those are exclusively Rush's.
Those are in the Limbaugh Institute safe, of which only Cookie and Rush have the uh combination.
You know, uh it occurs to me, I don't know, uh when when Rush has his his uh Ditto cam on and all of that, do you have people ever seen you guys back in the other room?
No, all right.
Well, uh, I can tell you that uh at least as far as uh uh HR goes, the chief of staff, Kit Carson, uh Kit looks like I mean dead ringer, if we walk down the streets here in Manhattan, and and we're near well, heck, if we're right near here, people think he's Conan O'Brien.
And that's a and that is a flat out fact.
I mean, they just think that he's uh Conan O'Brien, and I'm thinking he should use it to his advantage and get on the show.
I mean, you could get a little time on that because Conan would have you on uh and uh be sitting there, and and certainly you could uh uh you know demand the best seat in a restaurant and get a free meal and then you know walk out and blame him.
Uh call my people, you could say.
Hey, you're both tall, you're both redheads.
Yeah, I mean you look like each other.
You do.
Uh we had a great dinner, by the way, at Ben Benson Steakhouse, uh, and and there are great steakhouses, great restaurants in New York City.
I am reminded, uh, however, how how much I I love visiting New York.
I used to live here.
I lived here five years.
It's great for me at least to visit, knowing I'm gonna go back home to the Midwest, to Michigan, to Detroit, uh, and uh and live.
It's just I am a small town guy.
Monroe, Michigan's a very small town.
You come from you know, the first thing I did here working at WABC was cover the St. Patrick's Day Parade and be sent out into the middle of the street to interview Ed Cotch during the St. Patrick's Day Parade.
Well, first of all, I'm a kid, and he suffered no fools ever.
And so you ask him a question like, what is St. Patrick's Day mean to you, Mr. Mayor?
You know, he could have just thrown me over, but he didn't.
He was very kind, and we became kind of uh friends over the years, but I realized that day, coming from Monroe, Michigan, basically, and into New York City, there were more people marching in the New York St. Patrick's Day parade than lived in my hometown.
And that kind of strikes you.
You know, you go, wait a minute, wait a minute.
There are more people marching in this parade than live in Monroe.
And furthermore, I thought, didn't take long.
If all the police are in this parade and all the firefighters are in this parade, what happens when the bad guys are trying to rob the banks and there's some fires?
That's how many people are in that parade and how big this city is, and it is for me at least a great uh great uh city to visit.
And you know, uh back to people.
There are great restaurants, but then it's the people.
Ben Benson, the reason I think he's so great is he's had problems with his eyes for as long as I've known him, for years and years and years.
He supports there are pictures on the wall in his restaurant uh off of Sixth Avenue that what was it, 52nd, I think, 52nd and 6th, uh pictures of these little puppies in these sitting inside these large harnesses that they will grow into to be seeing eye dogs.
And he supports them and gives them money and he feeds uh the the people who help Santa Claus around Christmas and around Easter, he brings in senior citizens and gives them meals.
He does just does a lot of nice things.
You know, he's just one of those one of those good guys, and and what was it, Joe the bartender that made those martinis?
You know, making a good martini is not an easy thing.
And uh, and of course you stumped him a little bit.
You're a traditionalist, you wanted the gin, but you wanted vermouth.
Nobody gets vermouth anymore.
But but but you did, and and just the right amount is tough.
You open the bottle and you put the cap back on.
Uh but uh this guy is seventy-three years old, and y forget it, he could be fifty or forty for that matter.
He runs he runs like five miles a day.
This is not something you're going to find me doing.
But I I do know that the latest research shows, even if you just start walking a little bit more, ten minutes more, parking your car farther away, you know, all the stuff.
Use the stairs, it matters.
It helps.
It makes you healthier, it makes you feel better.
Well, anyway, I what I keep saying on my show in Detroit is, and I'm gonna say it until you believe it, sixty is the new forty.
And I'm not just I'm not just kidding.
Because as I said to Joe the bartender there, I said, Do you realize how lucky you are to be seventy-three now in two thousand seven?
And then I said, if you were seventy-three twenty years ago, he said I'd be dead.
And he might have been.
Well, of course, by now he might have been.
But the point is this remember when people who were seventy were thought to be old.
And today you can work side by side with somebody in their seventies or in their eighties.
Paul Harvey, Ernie Harwell's almost ninety, one of the greatest voices in baseball ever.
You're right.
If uh and you know, this is what I like about uh HR.
This is why Kit Carson is the chief of staff.
Uh he says simply, if in fact people would die like when they used to, we wouldn't have this problem with Social Security.
Uh, kid.
Yeah, you wouldn't have to worry about your retirement, you're running out of uh money before you run out of days.
All those things.
All right.
Rush threw a curveball.
He actually did open line Friday yesterday, but we're going to continue it.
We're going to carry it through because you may not have known that, you may not have gotten through.
He is the master at that, of course, me being merely a teaching assistant, I'll do the best I can with you, and may depend on all of us together, each other uh helping out when people have certain questions or comments or concerns in this open line Friday.
You know the number, 1-800-282-2882.
That's 1-800-282-2882.
You can also go to Rush Limbaugh.com.
Does anybody really look at that though while we're on the show?
This is a I have to tell you, uh Cookie and there are others I I probably shouldn't start naming names because I can't name them all.
They're off in some back room.
Anything I would usually talk about.
I usually I'd have some other uh topics set up here uh from newspapers from around the world, and I merely mention something from a newspaper story.
By the time I get back to a computer and turn on and and log on and go to the Rush Limbaugh uh page, Rush Limbaugh.com.
They've got I remember the last time I filled in, I had just come back from Beijing, and I read some obscure things from various Chinese newspapers.
And I I mentioned it on the air, and they immediately had the they didn't come and ask me, they never talked to me, but they immediately had the actual story from the actual newspaper linked up to Rush Limbaugh.com.
It's an amazing uh staff.
I That may be easy, but you're looking at a guy and listening to a guy who almost had a major crisis writing my Detroit news column and trying to send it back to Detroit from New York became a major deal.
I mean I thought the world was coming to an end.
I'm not that I use my computer every day, but anyway, I just uh I just thought it was an amazing thing.
Oh, by the way, uh as substitute teacher, as teaching assistant, fellow student uh elevated just for the day as teaching assistant here at the uh Limbaugh Institute um of Conservative Studies.
I promise you I will not be like the substitute teacher there uh in the Amanda Clear Creek School District in Fairfound Fairfield County, Ohio.
Uh she has been permanently suspended because she disciplined four kindergarten boys for talking in class by putting those spring type clothes pins on their lips.
Yes, Maimona, it is effective, but it's not what you're supposed to do.
Uh the woman had worked for the past several years as a substitute teacher after retiring from the district as a school nurse.
Certainly the district does not favor this method of discipline, according to the superintendent, and she will never be used as a substitute of the district again.
Why she didn't get the memo on using duct tape, I don't know.
No, he didn't say that.
He did not say that.
But you know, those those uh clothes pins, uh, you know, kids, for those of you who have no idea what a clothes pin is, uh, you know, back in the old days, before we started ruining the world and the planet by using electricity and gas to heat little boxes that would dry our clothing.
We used to put the clothing on a clothes line.
Not to be confused, that was a little rope.
I'd say string, but bigger than a string, a rope that you would hang clothing on, and it would be naturally dried in the sun.
And since we've since we've uh probably made it so that we'll never see the sun again because of all of the smog and uh pollution until the ozone layer is completely burned off and then we burn to death, uh we can't we can't hang our clothes outside so much anymore.
They used to smell so fresh and so clean.
Anyway, uh using uh the uh the dryer.
Well we'll get into this a little bit later, because you see what we're going to do in the second hour of the program is welcome in Donald Luskin.
You may know him from National Review Online also as the chief investment officer of Trend Macro, an independent economics and investment research firm.
He uh puts up a great uh uh conversation argument, if you will, about the fact that if you question whether global warming is happening or whether human activity is causing it or whether it's worth doing anything about, then you must be a crackpot.
On the other hand, uh if you're a protectionist who question the benefits of free trade among nations, which, by the way, the benefits of free trade are settled science, goes all the way back to the eighteenth century, beginning with the path breaking work of Adam Smith and David Ricardo, you are really lambasted.
And he talks about that hypocrisy and more uh coming up in our second hour.
But what we want to do with you this first hour is talk about whatever you want to, because it's our open line Friday, one-eight hundred-282-2882, and we'll be right back with your calls.
I'm Paul W. Smith in for Rush Limbaugh.
Well, this is uh also home of some of the best uh music uh don't don't you think you guys uh put together some great music.
Uh and uh this is the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Paul W. Smith in for Rush Rush said uh for years Rush said I think he said this yesterday.
He said, you know, for years I've wanted to take uh Good Friday off.
The problem is it always uh it it always is on a Friday.
So this time he decided I'm taking it off.
So we took it off.
And uh and that's that.
And I'm glad he did, so that we can spend a little time together.
You know, no no they i there are no digital clothes pins, Maimon.
Uh And the the clothes pin goes on to the clothing on the rope and holds it to the rope, and it you know, you understand, right?
Oh, you do?
You do you so Mamon still uses the clothes pins, uh, even though the disruptive technology of dryers uh has uh pretty much to take care of the clothes pin business, hasn't it?
Right there with the uh Bucky Whip makers.
Let's uh let's go to you on the phone.
1 800 282 2882, 1-800-282-2882.
And first up is Rich in Philadelphia.
Welcome to the Limb Limbaugh uh Institute of Curve Conservative Studies.
I I just I'm stumbling over myself because I'm so excited.
There is a caller from Philadelphia and a caller from Detroit.
I lived in Philly for six years and loved it, and I now am back home in Detroit.
So it's uh here we are on this uh mega uh powerful station and it's uh feeling like I'm close to home here.
Rich uh welcome into the Welcome into the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Thanks, Paul.
It's uh nice to speak to you and an honor to be on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Uh I wanted to m cr make a point or just how I just had a thought with the recent release of the British soldiers who were held captive by the Iranians, how today in their press conference they cited torture and uh punishment and all kinds of maltreatment as the reason for their uh their behavior over there,
in which they they all but held a news briefing uh explaining why the uh the British wrongly uh entered Iranian waters.
And compare that mentality with that of our enemy who are willing to to die rather than recant their faith.
Now, I don't want to sit and say that I could have done it.
I and I certainly have tremendous sympathy for these poor men and women who were held captive.
It certainly would uh you know, it's certainly easier for me to say in the safety of my home here in the United States to say that I would have uh held my ground and held my principles.
Well, here you know it would be easy for me to say, Rich.
I think I'd like to think now I've never been a soldier.
I would like to think, though, had I been a soldier and had a gun, being in or around enemy territory, a dicey situation at best, and saw that I was about to be taken, I might have shot somebody.
I might have squeeze off a round or two to at least make it look like you're engaged.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I'm trying to do my best to have compassion, but I have to tell you that I I I do feel a sense of of uh uh anger or disappointment.
I mean, we've had some uh Hello.
Hello?
I'm afraid he dropped off there, but whatever.
I mean, I I I just see that, and I'm not saying that I could do it.
I I I just it it just reminds me all the time of of the enemy that we're facing is is evil, um and they are thoroughly committed.
It's not so much that they're cowards, because they're they are thoroughly committed to our destruction, even to the point where they're willing to die for what they believe in.
Um and you know, believe me, I'm I'm more than willing to uh to to help them along that path, believe me.
If they if they came and they crossed paths with anybody in our country or with our way of life, uh you know, I have no uh moral qualms about seeing and seeing that happen.
I just it it just is a stark contrast to the way we see life and the way they see life.
Well, Rich, uh uh you and I would have the same problem trying to picture someone from Al Qaeda picking up their goodie bag and wearing their suits that were pr ill-fitting suits that were provided to the men and the head scarf and trouser ensemble for the woman, uh and uh and leaving.
I mean, and they would never have said those things to the camera.
They would have said, die, dog, or something uh uh to that effect.
Uh and uh probably things we probably shouldn't have here on the Rush Limbaugh program being said.
And uh and there is a big difference, isn't there?
Yeah, maybe Madame Pelosi wants to m should uh study that a little bit more carefully.
Well, she's such a next one.
She's such a fine diplomat.
She's accomplished so much.
Uh she's helped the Republicans immensely.
But uh the fact is you should know that Uh over there across the big pond, uh, even the British are starting to question how these soldiers behaved during their detention and why they had been captured in the first place.
Tony Blair, now, of course, you can understand why he You know, the these people who are writing about how diplomacy really works and all of that are probably gonna learn a thing or two if Tony Blair follows up some of the uh actually tough talk antagonistic talk that he is doing now as he talks about Iran and uh and the link uh between uh Iran and uh terrorism in Iraq.
There is no question.
We had word of uh Iran's fingerprints and trademarks uh all over uh weaponry, bombs, etc.
IEDs that were being used in Iraq uh a year or two ago.
Uh that wasn't a secret.
Uh apparently it was to some or a surprise still to many.
We are going to uh continue taking your calls here at 1800-282-2882, Paul W in for Rush.
Thanks, Johnny Donovan.
Uh nice to be here with you on this good Friday.
Good good Friday to you if you are taking part in Holy Week activities leading into Easter.
I've just finished up uh uh with uh uh the various uh celebrations that have been taking place.
Uh and uh I I hope that it's been uh good Passover for you as well.
It is uh it is uh uh an open line Friday hybrid edition, because uh Rush actually did this yesterday, and not everybody could get through, and not everybody knew he was going to do that.
Uh so we've kind of extended it into what you were used to.
In fact, uh Mike, I would guess this would be the time, probably, because we haven't heard that uh the uh open line Friday uh jingle yet.
Live from New York City.
It's open line Friday.
You know, I when you looked at me like that, Mike, I didn't know what to say or do because you probably wondered what the heck I was talking about, too.
Yeah, I uh r Rush has uh Yeah, yeah, I know I hadn't done it yet, and uh and you said give us the signal, and as I sat here, I realized I have no idea what the signal is.
Just pointing at you, huh?
Yeah, it's too dangerous.
I don't like to just point at people.
Uh in fact, uh good Catholic boy, uh grade school, high school.
We don't point.
Yeah, we uh next thing I know I'd have a clothes pin on my uh on my uh my uh my digit.
All right, uh one-eight hundred-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882.
I'm I was just at the uh this the uh I am a left-handed person.
There are very few left-handed people who went through parochial schools because we would learn how to uh use the right hand uh by the it was the ruler uh uh method from what I recall.
But didn't happen to me.
I don't know why.
They they spared me.
I was spared the rule.
Uh let's uh let's go back to you on the telephone.
1 800-282-2882.
And I say this is a hybrid open line Friday because in this next hour we will have a guest.
I think you'll find him interesting.
Donald Luskin from the National Review Online has some interesting things to uh talk about.
Uh even put a call out to uh Newt Gingrich, but late, a very late call out to Newt, uh not about running for president or not running for president.
He, Newt Gingrich, is going to be involved in a debate.
So here we have the former House Speaker and possible presidential candidate, and the 2004 Democratic nominee, Senator John Kerry squaring off this next week on global warming.
On the climate, on what's going on and what isn't going on.
I think it'll be fascinating.
I think it'll be a lot of fun.
I I'd rather it be, I mean, honestly, I'd rather it be Newt and and Gore, obviously.
Uh but it's really if it's if it's Newt and Kerry or Newt and Gore, it's either like Newt and a tree or Newt and a Bush.
So it's i i i you know it's either way, it's gonna be probably a massacre.
All right, uh one-eight hundred-282-2882.
I uh digress.
Let's go to Cincinnati and Jim, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Paul W. Smith.
Happy Friday to you, Jim.
You too, Mr. Smith.
Thank you.
I want the immediate resignation of the Fuhrer Pelosi.
If it were if it were Republican speaker and they did that, the Democrats would be screaming bloody murder for the resignation.
Well, uh, you know, uh th some Republicans have been visiting, and it's uh it's unfortunate when the president of the United States uh happens to be in your party and he asks you not to go and you go anyway, but on the other hand it's a tough position.
For example, uh Congressman Darrell Issa of California went, but he's Lebanese.
He's a Lebanese American who travels frequently travels to the Middle East, and he didn't go there and try to introduce new diplomatic initiatives.
He didn't try to do any of that, which is what Ms. Pelosi tried to do.
And uh and and that's I guess that's where the difference is so that those people who are saying that uh the Republicans are being hypocritical for once uh that that's just not the same thing.
It isn't a fair comparison.
Well and they're really happy that she's done that.
You've seen you've seen all of the uh all of the stories that have come out since saying wait a second we didn't tell her that you know she she uh she offered an excellent demonstration of why members of Congress uh should not in fact be traveling abroad and uh pretending to be the Secretary of State or is one of you fine callers uh called in on Russia's show yesterday and said uh trying to be president I thought it was an interesting observation that that uh Ms. Pelosi
might be trying to uh uh I don't know uh mark out her turf just in case Hillary Rodham Clinton becomes the next president of these United States.
Interesting thought there.
But anyway uh when she said that uh Israel was ready to engage in peace talks with Syria and all the rest of it uh it uh it led a whole bunch of people to respond and say we we didn't give her any message whatsoever to give to anybody so uh interesting so you but I don't think you're going to get that resignation Jim so don't hold your breath all right let's go to Paul in Fort Leavenworth at 1800 282882 welcome into the Rush Limbaugh program Paul.
Hey thank you sir uh first time caller uh home of uh General Petraeus our great commander on the ground over there in Iraq.
Excellent uh my my my comment is is uh what happens in with move on dot org and the Democrats would uh have one hand on the lanyard running up the white flag is shame and surrender if Al Qaeda leadership comes on Al Jazeera and says March of oh eight we do not accept your surrender terms we want General Petraeus to come out of the Green Zone surrender your flag leave your military equipment and we want reparations.
What do the Democrats do then they probably would do everything they could to follow his orders.
Exactly and that's the point that the American people they don't know I talked to soldiers on retired military police twenty five years talked to soldiers on the ground here at Fort Leavenworth.
None of the great things uh that they're doing over there is getting out in the mainstream media.
Right.
Um every time I see George Stepanopoulos, Keith Ober and all these far left guys putting up three thirty five hundred soldiers killed soldiers come back to me and say what about the jihadists and the terrorists that we're killing that will never get to Lansing Kansas and blow up a high school football game.
What why is that not being portrayed out there?
Well uh you know there are people and uh some of them are now in uh uh positions of prominence and power who who just believe that we're really at fault in every way and uh that we should be guilt ridden with everything that's been happening in this world it's all our fault and so uh who can blame anybody for coming up with their reparations and the things that they feel they need because of the bad things we've done.
That's exactly right but when when soldiers come out and say look we're killing the enemy on the ground forward deployed free men will not surrender why why is that not being portrayed of the pipelines, the schools, the infrastructure they're playing soccer out there.
I mean I was in Cosmo same thing but for some reason the Democrats uh are spinning us up is they say get out of Iraq I'm talking about where's the plan for victory and that's what the soldiers are saying we we're winning.
We're killing the enemy and that's the objective.
Right you are thank you, Paul in Fort Leavenworth.
We appreciate that it's Anita's turn from Colfax, California at 1800-282-2882 1-800-282-2882.
Anita's on the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Paul W. Smith hello Anita.
Well hello well hello now that we've gotten that out of the way what's on your mind?
Well I was calling about the uh British sailors and Marines and uh uh the way the world's kind Of criticizing what they've done, and it seems to me that they're really just a reflection of each country's government and people, the way we're going at this war.
I heard on the radio that they were um told to confess or they'd be in prison for seven years.
And I I don't think that my country or Britain would have done a thing, a real thing to get 'em out.
I mean, the way England wouldn't even call it an act of war.
And yet we expect them to behave in a manner that uh that we are at a war.
Do you understand what I mean?
Well, I I think I do.
I think what you're trying to say, and you helped me better understand, Anita, my job here, uh as a teaching assistant, uh, is to try to help uh you uh do the best job you can and be uh understood as clearly as possible.
So there you go.
What I think you're saying is that this is a difference in the way we are compared to, say, the way the British are.
You're saying uh they would have just as soon had tea with uh the uh people that took them in and uh work these things out, saying what a gee, what a what a sad uh uh mistake we've made.
We're so we're so uh we're so sorry that we did this, and uh 'cause you know how the initial reaction when the president made the awful mistake of saying that somebody who's being held at gunpoint and not allowed to leave uh upon their own free will made the mistake of calling them hostages.
Now that shows how ugly we are as Americans to think that just because someone takes us against our will, holds a gun to us and will not let us leave, we are so stupid to think that they're hostages.
I can't believe that we ever broke away from that other country across the pond and made it on our own being so stupid.
Sorry, Sophie.
So Sophia's my soon to be four year old daughter who says, Daddy, we don't say stupid.
Well, but you know, I also say I think if I think we're expecting our soldiers and our military to behave that this is a all out war.
We're tell we're we're making them do that, but we are not backing them up.
We from the very beginning, I don't believe we have.
We've tr as a society and as our government, that we're expecting them to act like this is a real war, and yet we're not we are not backing that up by supporting them.
Well, there's a there is a kernel of truth now in what you're saying, Anita, and the fact is I agree that uh it is appalling to think that we, as at least at one time, the strongest nation on the face of the earth would send our young men, mostly and some women, into harm's way without the world's best equipment and support.
I agree with you on that.
And I'll want to hear from you at 1-800-282-2882.
This is the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Paul W. Smith.
Good Friday to you.
Uh, welcome in as we continue the Rush Limbaugh program.
Paul W in for Rush.
Rush decided to take Good Friday off, and he did.
He'll be back in the chair come Monday and lots to talk about and to uh catch up on, that's for sure.
1-800-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882.
Uh, remind me to tell you about uh what happened yesterday outside uh my hotel here in New York City when uh though I did not witness it, I got there right after it happened.
A cab driver ran over himself.
And uh and I he's okay.
I'm sure he's really sore today, but uh he he got up and got back in and drove away, which apparently was rather incredible.
But I I'll tell you the story.
Let's uh go to you on the phone.
One eight hundred two eight two two eight eight to a a modified hybrid open line Friday here as we go to uh Saint George, Vermont and Ross.
Hello, Ross, welcome in to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Uh, thank you.
Mr. Smith's pleasure to speak to someone wrestling as worthy to be a substitute teacher at the Limbaugh Institute of Conservative Studies.
Well, I am honored to be in this position.
And but remember, I am merely one lucky break away from being just like you, because I too, Ross, am a student of the Limbaugh Institute of Conservative Studies.
Yes, today and a few other times in the past and maybe in the future, I have been elevated to a teaching assistant position, but just for the day.
Well, that's good.
I hope you elevate us more to I'm sure you will.
Uh and by the way, that's St. George, Utah, not St. George's Vermont.
Oh, I'm sorry.
All right.
That's fine.
But uh I was wondering if I could ask you a question and then make a couple short points and then get your take on the whole thing.
All right.
Okay.
Uh my question is, uh what you thought about Bush's motives.
Uh what do you think they are behind him allocating federal money and and making kind of a public push towards exploration of F now was a major fuel source.
I was wondering if you thought he was trying to uh reach across party lines or if he was trying to appease environmentalists or store up votes for the upcoming election.
And then my couple points I wanted to make was I just uh doesn't seem to make much sense to me to take what is arguably the staple food source of uh many third world countries and try to make it a major fuel source for the U.S. Uh there seems to be a lot of world hatred uh uh stirred up already because of our uh use of resources,
and I just see if if this takes off within a year, uh it'll be portrayed as our fault, people are starving around the world, and and we'll have infomercials of of us literally taking the food out of starving children's mouths just to fear SUVs.
Uh that's what I see the the future of that uh becoming.
I just uh is there more because uh I'll forget what you were saying if you go on more uh onto another topic.
Let me let me address this one.
I don't think the president's playing any game at all.
I think he is being mindful of what he's been told.
Uh good that you're asking me this question because I am from Detroit, the the motor city still, and uh our guys, Rick Wagner at General Motors, Alan Malally at Ford Motor Company, Tom LaSorda at Chrysler Unit of Daimler Chrysler, at least still until Kirk Kakorian or Magnum International or one of the money groups or even GM takes over the Chrysler unit,
uh, have met with the president a number of times most recently, and we're talking about the environment and the greening of that industry and how we might do it, and biofuels have been one of the sources.
Now, uh I've heard too the people say that boy, we're stealing food right out of the mouths of the third world country people, and that that our corn products are going to cost more.
It it wasn't long ago.
In fact, it still may be happening.
Remember, we have paid farmers not to grow crops in this country.
So we should be able to grow plenty of corn, which if you'll note corn and corn byproducts are in lots and lots of things, corn syrup.
Um I I I don't think he's playing any games.
I don't think anyone's come up with a better answer yet to get us to that point where we believe we've cut the pollutants and cut our ties to countries that hate us and won't have to buy as much oil from them.
Yeah.
Well, then I would I would ask then uh, you know, we've always had the ability to grow enough food and to export enough food, but uh because of uh countries' politics and their governments, the food doesn't get to people, and it's just almost logistically impossible.
There's starving people around the world, and and I still sense that uh if we went ahead with that, even though we'd have the ability and it might be a clean fuel source and and and we could make it work, you're still gonna have starving people around the world, and and I'm absolutely sure that other countries and our left-wing media would take that to the bank with uh us, like I say, literally taking food out of starving people's mouths.
Yeah, but you know, let's uh let's not get carried away here because let's not forget uh how many times uh look as long as there are strong men with uh lots of money and weapons in these uh other countries.
How many times have you seen the pictures of food that other nations, not just us, other countries have donated to starving nations, and the food is never allowed to get to the people.
How many times?
Uh too many times.
I mean, this goes on and on and on.
Did we do our uh our no we didn't, okay.
Uh you see, Mahmoon, I'm starting to catch the uh the signals now that you guys have here.
You have a very interest that signal I understand completely.
Uh this is the Rush Linball program on Paul W. Smith.
I hope Dave will wait in Detroit.
We it's taken all this time.
We haven't been able to get to him, and now we don't have enough time to give him a fair shot.
Anyway, this this uh cab driver ran over himself in front of my hotel yesterday, pulled up to the curb, he was excited about getting a fare to the airport, big money, you know.
He forgot to put the car in park, gets out of the cart, still in reverse.
It backs up the door, knocks him over, he falls under the car, runs over himself.
Gets up, runs across the street because the car is still going backwards, hitting a sign, and grabs from the ground the brake and pushes it in and stops the car.
Got back in it and drove away.
You want to guess how sore he must be today?
We continue on the Rush Limbaugh program.
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