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March 12, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 12, 2007, Monday, Hour #1
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This is so, so funny.
The Democrats afraid of Fox News.
Actually, I think there's something major at work here.
And I think it goes back to Bill Clinton's appearance with Chris Wallace.
I am of the suspicion that this whole thing with the Democrats pulling out of the debate in August in Nevada with Fox News.
Right now, everybody is blaming the kook fringe, these bloggers, the moveon.orgs and so forth.
And one thing you have to understand, something like this could not happen without Ram Emmanuel and John Podesta involved.
And when I mentioned this to people over the weekend, they said, well, I mean, no, this is the blogs.
They said, no, it's all one machine, folks.
Soros, Emmanuel, the whole Democrat machine is one thing.
It's a distinction without a difference to say, no, the bloggers pulled him out of this.
Well, I think what actually might have been at work here, I think there has been an effort by the Democrats and the left to go after Fox News for the longest time.
And it was started when Clinton appeared on Fox News Sunday.
And after Clinton did his shellacking of Chris Wallace and accused him of bias and doing a hit piece on Clinton, it wasn't long after that that Barbara Boxer went on Fox and said, I'm not going to answer these questions.
Why, these are biased questions.
You're not interested in the facts.
You just have an agenda.
And although this will never be proven, I would not be surprised if they accepted this debate with Fox.
They made this deal to have this debate in Nevada televised in August, knowing from the outset that they were going to do this.
But regardless, and I had many arguments with some friends over the weekend about this.
A bunch of people think that this is going to do the Democrats well.
It's going to do them good.
It's going to make them big and powerful with their own people.
I disagree totally.
I think this is an absolute disaster for these people.
Whether it makes them look like they're on the leash of the net root bloggers, the Kook fringe, or not, it's just silly.
Here they are afraid of Fox News.
They're afraid of Fox News moderators.
Now, when that charge got out, they said, no, no, no, no, we're not afraid of Fox.
What we're afraid of is legitimize it.
We don't want to legitimize Fox as a news source.
But stop and think what's happened here.
Here are people running for the presidency.
You are president of all the people if you get elected.
Fox News has more viewers than any other cable news network.
And of course, the original statement from Dingy Harry was how excited he was that Fox News is going to be partying with the partnering with the Democrat state organization of Nevada to bring Democrat views perhaps to a different audience.
Then, of course, the Brett girl, I am woman, decides, make sure you have that standing by today, Mike, by the way.
Brett Girl decides to pull out in what was clearly a fundraising move with the Netroot blog fringe out there on the Democrat side.
Then Bill Richardson followed suit, and then the whole thing of blaming Roger Ailes joke about what Ailes said, well, we've got the soundbite.
I'll save it for you later.
But Ailes' joke, and he was making a speech during a First Amendment award he was given, the Radio TV News Directors Association.
Was giving the First Amendment Award, makes a joke, and the Democrats say, oh, no, we can't put up with that.
Why, we're not going to have somebody who thinks that questioning our Democrat candidates.
And it was a joke aimed at President Bush that involved Barack Obama's name.
I think what Ailes said was that Bush called President Musharraf of Pakistan and said, this is Barack Obama's guy all over the place.
Why can't we capture this guy?
I mean, that's a joke aimed at the stupidity of Bush.
It's not a Barack Obama joke in the sense that his name is similar to Osama bin Laden.
But anyway, this is not going to stand him in good stead.
And what's happened now is the whole debate's been canceled.
And they've been asking CNN and MSNBC if they want to pick it up and do the debate in August.
So far, nobody has.
Somebody probably will, but if they don't, the Democrats have just made sure that nobody's going to hear their candidates across the country at least in this debate.
And the Republicans, unrelated to this, pulled out of a CNN debate in New Hampshire in April, but this is just scheduling conflicts.
Not enough of the frontrunners could get there.
And so really, that has nothing to do.
I wish it did.
Can you imagine if Republican candidates refuse to go on a debate sponsored by CNN or PMS or any of the networks on the same pretext?
Well, we can't get a fair shot.
These are liberal networks, and it's just silly.
This is not going to make the Democrats look good.
Here they are acting afraid of Fox News.
They're afraid to legitimize Fox News, but they want to legitimize Iran all over the place by having us talk to the Iranians.
They want to legitimize Al-Qaeda.
They don't want to legitimize all of our genuine real enemies by forcing negotiations, capitulations, and defeat.
But they're not going to legitimize Fox News.
These people are Stalinists, folks.
They will not tolerate.
They are not going to tolerate anything that dissents from their views.
And it's out there and it's wide open for everybody to see.
Speaking of Republican frontrunners, Fred Thompson let it be known over the weekend that he's interested.
We'll review some of his positions on issues.
A lot of it, I've been checking my email over the weekend since this happened.
I mean, there is, I'm getting more exciting or email some people more excited about Fred Thompson than any of the candidates who are currently in the race.
Snirdly in there ducking his head.
Yes, well, we'll have details of all of these stories and many more things coming up, such as Halliburton.
Two of my favorite words, Halliburton and Dubai.
Folks, does it get any better than this?
Halliburton is going to move their headquarters to Dubai.
We can't have Dubai run our ports, but Dubai can have Halliburton.
They're going to shift their corporate headquarters from Houston to Dubai, and the chief executive Dave Lesser is going to move there.
He said Halliburton's opening its corporate headquarters in Dubai while maintaining a corporate office in Houston.
Access is Kathy Mann, the spokeswoman for Halliburton.
The chairman, the president, and the CEO will office from and be based in Dubai to run the company from the United Arab Emirates.
Now, of course, everybody knows that Halliburton was headed up by Dick Cheney.
Halliburton is one of the footballs kicked around by the mad, insane left.
And, of course, they now think if you go to these kuk fringe Democrat websites today, what you'll learn is that Halliburton's moving out of the country and taking all of their documents with them so they can't be subpoenaed.
That's right.
They know they're guilty of war profiteering, and they know that they've got a secret deal with Bush and Cheney, and they're getting out before the Democrats start subpoenaing.
That is impossibly false.
There is no way that that is the truth.
They are still subject to U.S. laws.
They're going to have an office here.
The real reason they're moving is that Halliburton is an oil services company.
They don't drill for oil.
They don't do any of that.
They just manufacture equipment, perform services for companies that do all kinds of companies, not just big oil, but companies related, all kinds of business practices in the oil industry.
And the fact of the matter is there's not much for them to do here in the United States.
We can't drill anywhere.
We can't drill in the Gulf.
We can't drill at end war.
We can't drill off the West Coast of California.
We can't drill anywhere.
There's really nothing for them to do here in the primary area of their business.
So that's why they are moving over there.
Now, the Democrats are very suspicious about this, which is even more hilarious.
Halliburton announced the largest military contractor in Iraq with billions of dollars in Pentagon contracts is going to move its CEO and corporate headquarters to Dubai.
The move could eventually save the firm a fortune in U.S. taxes, it is said here, but that's dubious as well.
But it's raising serious questions about its priorities and prompting at least one possible congressional hearing.
Chuck Schumer.
Now, you've got to keep in mind how the Democrats have demonized this company.
And not just the Kook Fringe, not just these wackos on the blogs and the internet sites.
This whole party has demonized Halliburton from day one only because Dick Cheney was once its CEO.
They have as much run this country, company, out of the country as any world circumstances have.
Now they're all upset that Halliburton is leaving.
Here's Chuck Schumer yesterday after his appearance on CBS.
One of the largest contractors with the United States government to move its headquarters overseas just doesn't look good, doesn't sound good, doesn't smell good.
Wait a minute.
What about all this global economy stuff we keep hearing about?
Doesn't look good?
Doesn't sound good?
Doesn't smell good?
Halliburton, why in the world would any company that's the target of an entire political party want to stay in this country and put up with it?
Their first priority is their business concerns, and they are a global company.
There are very few companies.
Maybe France has a company that does what Halliburton does, but nobody's as large, and nobody is as sought after.
Outrage over the possibility had Halliburton scrambling Sunday to explain it had no plans to incorporate abroad.
It's still going to stay incorporated in the United States.
It'll still be subject to U.S. laws, subject to U.S. congressional subpoenas.
They're not escaping anything, but still the Democrats are suspicious.
The move may raise questions of national security, too, as happened last year with the canceled port deal with Dubai Ports World.
Congressional outrage scuttled that deal.
Halliburton will now have some explaining to do to avoid similar scrutiny.
As a House Oversight Committee chairman, Government Reform Committee hearing last month, Henry Waxman noted that a government audit had indicated that Halliburton was responsible for $2.7 billion in suspect billings.
At any rate, ladies, it's a simple business move, but you just have to laugh at the Democrats' hypocrisy here, all upset over what Halliburton's doing, their associations with Cheney, the possible conspiracy to grab hold of all the Iraqi oil to enrich Bush and Cheney and their oil buddies.
Now they're leaving, and the Democrats think it looks bad, smells bad, and seems bad.
Lots more to go.
EIB Network and Rush Lindbaugh back to continue after this.
One of the ways that Halliburton was always accused of war profiteering with its Kellogg-Brown ⁇ Root division, KBR, they do a lot of things in Afghanistan.
They run the chow lines.
They run the restaurants, the food, and all that.
And I think the KBR was spun off by Halliburton some time ago, months, less than a year.
That was a losing business.
They weren't turning a profit on that at all.
And this is the primary area of the war profiteering charge leveled by the Democrats.
But there's another reason, folks.
Businesses are businesses and costs are costs.
And most of the oil business that Halliburton has is in Asia and in the Middle East.
And I've told you, I've been to Dubai.
One of the reasons I was not opposed to the Dubai ports deal, three of my favorite words, by the way, is because I've been there and I've seen how Americanized the place is.
And it's just, this whole thing was just, to me, it was an embarrassment the way members of Congress and both parties tried to get in line to see who could be the first to protect the country.
It was just absurd.
At any rate, Dubai has a huge, huge airport, and the United Arab Emirates Airline is becoming a major player.
And it's quicker and cheaper to get to all the places Halliburton does business over there from Dubai than it is from Houston.
Anyway, Chuck Hagel, big announcement today.
Promoted this big announcement all week last week.
Lots of national reporters left their favorite confines in the nation's capital to fly out to a red state.
That's already tough enough for them.
Going to Nebraska for a D.C. press person is like needing a visa to go to Kazakhstan.
They get out there, and the only reason they're there is because they are convinced that another Republican is going to get in the race and rip George W. Bush to shreds.
Chuck Hagel, he of Hegel mania, took to the microphones a little after 11 o'clock today and said this.
America stands at an historic crossroads in its history.
It is against this backdrop that I find myself at my own crossroads on my political future.
America is facing its most divisive and difficult issue since Vietnam, the war in Iraq.
I want to keep my focus on helping find a responsible way out of this tragedy and not divert my energy, my efforts, and my judgment with competing political considerations.
I'm here today to announce that my family and I will make a decision on my political future later this year.
America is reaching for a national consensus of purpose.
We will find it because Americans expect it and will demand it.
Did I hear that?
He called a big press conference and got all these D.C. reporters out to Nebraska.
That's like having to go to Arkansas.
Almost as bad as having to go to Mississippi, South Carolina.
Go out to Nebraska and say he's not running.
Let me tell you something.
They're going to be a lot of really PO'd national reporters who dragged himself out there for this.
Yeah, he's his job, he's got to get us out of Iraq now, folks, and he can't be distracted by any of that.
He's going to talk to his family, going to talk to everybody else, and later on this year, we'll decide what he's going to do.
A major and who in the world, what kind of megalomania does somebody have to have to build yourself up at a forthcoming press conference that everybody speculates you're going to get in the ring, and then you say, guess what?
I'm not.
He'd have done this with an email.
Could have done it with the facts.
Besides, how do you pad an expense account if you're a reporter and you go to Nebraska?
Not even fun in that regard.
Roger Ailes on Thursday night in New York at the Radio and Television News Director Association Foundation event was given the First Amendment Award.
So he gets up there and he says, you know, some people told me to do some, you know, some news anchoring here before I get to my remarks.
So he ran into a little riff of news anchoring with jokes and said this.
It is true that Barack Obama is on the move.
I don't know if it's true that President Bush called Musharraf and said, why can't we catch this guy?
And of course, the Democrats, oh, my, he's telling an Osama Obama joke.
And he wasn't.
That joke is clearly a joke that impugns President Bush.
Gail Schister was on reliable sources.
She's a Philadelphia TV news writer with Howard Kurtz yesterday on CNN.
And this is what she said.
It's childish.
I think it's high school, the thing about making fun of his name.
I think it's ironic that he made the remarks when he was getting an award for the First Amendment.
And I also think that you could make the Democrats could make the argument that, well, what if we called Adolph Giuliani?
Names matter.
Words are important.
Well, I don't know.
Calls Ailes' joke childish.
If a liberal had made the joke about Bush or the Oscars, it would have been hilarious and so forth.
But everybody's missing the point.
This gives you an idea just how tightly wound these people are on the left.
They just thought that was an Obama joke.
By the way, speaking of Obama, Al Sharpton's on the warpath.
He is jealous big time of Obama and essentially is saying Obama is not down for the struggle.
And Sharpton is jealous.
This is a New York Post story today being sort of replaced by Obama as the Democrat star power of the African-American race.
We have details on that coming up.
They asked Obama how he felt about Adel's joke.
I'll be honest with you.
I didn't take huge offense to the joke that Roger Ailes made.
I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
Yeah, the joke was about Bush.
Dennis Kucinich is the, of all people, Dennis Kucinich is the only Democrat presidential candidate to rip the decision of the Nevada Democratic Party and Dingy Harry to pull out of the Fox debate in August.
He said that it smacks of manipulation by run and hide candidates.
Kucinich's theory is that a bunch of Democrat presidential candidates don't want to get hard questions from anybody who would be on a Fox panel about their war vote.
That's not it.
They just are afraid, folks.
They are patently afraid of Fox News.
And they're afraid of what will happen on Fox News.
This only happens when you don't have the confidence to take tough questions.
And it illustrates more than ever that Democrats are totally comfortable dealing with their own Allies and buddies in the drive-by media, but true, tough, and hard questions.
They don't want any part of because they are afraid.
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In the Prowler column, Nevada State Democrat Party Chairman Tom Collins had already made the decision to pull out of the Fox News debate to be held in his state in August, even before Friday, when Collins and Dingy Harry released a letter via moveon.org announcing that the state party was insulted by remarks made by Roger Ailes.
According to sources inside CNN and MSNBC, officials of the state party made calls to both networks Monday on March 5th, one week ago today.
Officials of the Nevada State Party made calls to PMSNBC and CNN asking if there was any interest on the part of either cable network to be involved in the debate should negotiations with Fox News break down.
According to the Prowler, they had already made the decision to get out of the Fox debate, the Fox deal that had been made.
Of course, Dingy Harry, back when the deal was announced, was all excited.
He's like, oh, this is cool.
It's an opportunity to bring a large audience, legitimize the Nevada State Democratic Party.
They moved their primary up.
Nevada has moved their primary up.
It's much earlier, and Dingy Harry was looking forward to it.
And then somebody heard from somebody, and again, I want to stress here, folks, that everybody's pointing fingers at moveon.org and the kook fringe bloggers.
But something like this cannot happen without Rah Emmanuel and John Podesta of the Democrat ThinkPank being involved in it.
Think what you want.
MoveOn.org may indeed have the ability to sway candidates like the Brett Girl and his pulling out.
He was the announced candidate, the first announced candidate to pull out.
That was all about fundraising and showing he's tough and emphasizing his anti-war stance.
It's primary time.
This is the people that you got to go to to secure if you want to make any inroads against the frontrunners, Barack Obama and Hillary, Mrs. Bill Clinton.
But make no mistake, there's no distinction here when you start talking about Move On and John Podesta.
And who do you think put these things together?
Podesta, former Clinton chief of staff, with his think tank and George Soros and all of these left-wing websites.
It's all one machine, folks.
The Democrat Party and they're just one machine.
The idea that Democrats are scared of this bunch and worried about this bunch, and the idea that the Democrats in Washington are being led around by these people on the blogs, it's PR.
It is a huge machine.
And I'm going to tell you, this machine is in the process of making one of the largest power grabs politically in our nation's history, which is fine.
That's what politics is all about.
If they win in 2008, I'm warning you, you have no idea just how far left this party wants to take this country.
This is not, you've heard people say this, this is not the Democrat Party of JFK, even of LBJ.
There's a new term for that strain of the party, interestingly enough.
They're being called neolibs.
And the party today is an entirely different group of people, and it's full-fledged, 100% pure leftists, radical socialist leftists who have at the top of their agenda a resentment for this country as it's currently constituted, its institutions that define it and make it great.
Those are going to be under assault en masse if these people win in 2008.
Don't fall for the notion here that this is the blogs doing this and that the Democratic Party has no fingerprints on it because they are one and the same.
It's the same machine.
Now, at this radio TV news director convention or dinner on Thursday night at the Waldorf Asteria, I think it was in New York where Roger Ailes got the First Amendment Award, a number of reporters from the AP and Reuters who were present at the event used a standing ovation to sneak out of the ballroom before Ailes spoke.
One of the reporters said, he's not a journalist and I'm not going to waste my time.
I need to find a drink anyway.
What does this mean?
These people don't want to even expose themselves to alternative points of views and this is what is Stalinist about it.
Not only do they not want to expose themselves, they want to shut them down.
They want to silence anybody.
But what does it say?
When an entire political party, and don't think, again, this is not the Nevada Democrats alone and it's not moveon.org.
This is the Democrat Party of Rahm Emanuel, John Podesta, Dingy Harry.
They all made this happen.
And I can't prove this, obviously, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were to learn down the road that they accepted this deal to have Fox televise their debate in August, knowing full well they were going to do just what they did on Friday and pull out of it.
They are trying to delegitimize Fox in the mainstream.
They're trying to paint it as something that's not even journalism.
It's beneath them to appear on the Fox News, even though they have, even though Fox is boiling over with leftist commentators and analysts.
And even though John Edwards, the Brett girl, has appeared on Fox something like 33 times.
That's what makes me think that this is all part of a grand strategy that was sprung with the appearance of Bill Clinton on Fox News Sunday, in which he took the occasion to just bash Fox, bash Wallace as illegitimate, just trying to do a hit piece, just trying to satisfy conservatives and right-wingers.
I will lay you 10 to 1 that this whole thing was orchestrated from the beginning to accept the deal and then pull out of it.
Make it look like the blogs did it, and therefore you empower the blogs.
And I saw a statistic over the weekend, not a statistic, a graph, at the website hits that these left-wing blog gets.
And way, way up at the top, and I wish I could remember the numbers on this chart.
They were expressed as a percentage of users, and I don't recall them, but way up at the top of it was for every day last week.
Way up at the top of the chart was the Drudge Report.
Barely registering was moveon.org.
Barely registering was the Daily Coase.
Barely registering were all these left-wing, the Huffington, barely in terms of hits by internet users.
The Drudge Report just skyrocketed.
Now, granted, Drudge is very high.
These hits could be, for these left-wing blogs, I guess, somewhat significant.
MoveOn.org is claiming 650,000 members.
They get 650,000 members.
The way hits can mount up on a website, they ought to be a lot higher than they were on this chart.
So don't think that this was the blogs.
This is the blogs didn't drive this.
I mean, the blog's only big candidate lost last November.
That'd be Ned Lamont.
This is the Democrat Party.
And I hate to be redundant here, but I just have a feeling that this whole thing was planned from the get-go and it's going to be more of the same.
Now, how do Democrats go on Fox now after this?
And there are plenty of left-wing commentators on Fox.
You've got Susan Estrich.
You've got Martin Frost, a former Democrat congress.
They're all over the place.
What do they do now?
Yeah, but she's a guest.
Dingell's wife is on, but they never identify her as Dingell's wife.
She's up there, Debbie Dingell, Democrat activist.
They never identify as John Dingell's wife.
She's on there as a guest blow.
She's not an animal.
But the point, yeah, they have liberal guests.
They're all over the place.
They got liberal generals analyzing the war.
It's all over the place.
What are these Democrats going to do now?
I mean, if Fox is certainly not suited for Democrat candidates to try to sell their ideas, my gosh, isn't that where you want to do it?
Are you afraid of your own ideas?
Do you not have confidence in your own ideas that you can't go on a cable network that you think is leaning to the right?
And what are you afraid of?
What are you afraid?
It's not that.
This is a giant effort to delegitimize Fox with the mainstream.
And here's another interesting question about this.
You've got PMS NBC.
You've got CNN.
You've got ABC, NBC, CBS.
I haven't seen anything yet on their reactions to this, but I wonder what they are.
I wonder what they will be.
You've seen something.
CNN was going nuts with celebration.
Uh-huh.
On their Saturday, bro.
They were going nuts with celebration.
Well, thanks.
Out-foxed.
Okay, maybe that proves my point.
Out-foxed.
CNN was saying out-foxed, meaning Fox stupidly made a deal that they should have known the Democrats were never going to.
Okay, so here's CNN, who's barely viewable in the ratings.
MSNBC, even less so.
And a cable news network, they're in the same business, has just been dissed by a political party.
Now, most of the time, journalists circle the wagons.
They'll circle the wagons around Dan Rather when he forges documents.
They'll circle the wagons around each other.
But when it comes to Fox, they get ostracized.
So even the fraternity of journalists has its limits when Fox is involved.
And this is going to come back to haunt them all in due course.
The American people are not stupid.
The American people have made Fox the largest watched, viewed cable news network.
And these other guys are sitting there and they're sucking their air to keep it clean.
And they think this is going to hurt Fox.
And I'm going to tell you something else.
I happen to know Roger Ailes.
And this kind of move does not send Ailes cowering to the corner with tail tucked between his legs.
It's just the opposite.
Roger Ailes doesn't believe in defense.
It's going to be fascinating to watch all of this unfold.
Got a quick timeout, ladies and gentlemen.
Your phone calls are coming up El Quicko, along with SCADS of stuff here.
A global warming stack I could probably fill an hour with.
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Maha Rushi to Pittsburgh and Sandy, you're up first today.
Nice to have you on the program.
Thanks, Rush.
You're number one in this household for many generations in my household.
The Democratic candidates did debate on Fox during their primaries in 2004.
So what's the difference now?
It seems to me that the party has moved even further to the left because they were willing to do it back then.
And now, you know, the far left is really in control of the party.
Well, I've had a lot of people.
I don't know that it's that they've moved.
I think you're missing the mistake.
I'm making a mistake here.
I think you're falling into a trap by thinking this is the result of the party moving left.
There's no question the party's moved left.
These new Democrats and the far left over Declaration, it's all the same bunch.
Right.
Don't tell me moderate Democrats.
You've got to go to South Carolina and get conservatives.
There are conservative Democrats.
There aren't any moderate Democrats.
There are leftists, there are neoliberals, and there are socialists.
And the distinctions between those three are too tiny to notice.
What you have here is a party that is rooted in fear, a party that knows it does not have a mainstream message and cannot stand for alternative or opposing points of view to have prominence, to have influence, and to have an audience, which is why they're talking about reenacting the fairness doctrine to silence programs like this, which is why they're trying to marginalize Fox.
If they were confident, Sandy, of their ideas, they would be eager to take those ideas to any and everybody in whatever forum.
Oh, absolutely, Rush.
I see the Stalinist actions here in Pennsylvania.
They cut out the Green Party.
They file lawsuits against anybody that runs on any other party just because they don't want to undercut their own position with their voters.
You can see it time and time again.
When Clinton did what he did on Fox, he really wanted to put Fox on the defensive, too, so that the guys that were asking the questions would feel they have to bend over backwards to give the Democratic point of view.
So I think that that was a ploy by Clinton back then to really try to manipulate things before the election.
It's exactly as I said.
I think that was the beginning of a strategy for Democrats periodically to come out and attack Fox.
This is an arrogant and very condescending party, and they live under so many myths that they're the kind ones, the tolerant ones, the open ones.
They're not.
They're the architects of political correctness, which is nothing more than an abridgment of free speech.
These people want to shut down anything they don't want to hear.
They do not have the confidence of their ideas.
They do not have the desire to spread those ideas because they can't even be honest about them.
And as such, Fox, this debate is just the latest in an attempt to marginalize Fox, and it can convince as many people that Fox is unnewsworthy and unworthy, that it isn't news and so forth.
The debate that you referenced was September 9th in 2003 at the Murphy Fine Arts Center on the Morgan State University campus in Baltimore.
It was a Congressional Black Caucus Institute and Fox News Channel Democrat presidential candidates debate.
And the candidates that appeared in that debate were Carol Mosley Braun, Howard Dean, the Breck Girl, Dick Gephardt, Bob Graham, John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, Dennis Kucinich, Joel Lieberman, and Al Sharpton.
This is just one of the many appearances that Edwards has made on the Fox News channel.
Fox is probably in negotiations with the CBC, the Congressional Black Caucus, to do another one.
We'll have to wait.
Speaking of Obama, I've got to get to this.
This is from the New York Post today.
It's by Fred Dicker, a truly outstanding reporter.
Jealous Reverend Al blasts Barack.
Al Sharpton's launched a big-time effort to tear down Barack Obama as a candidate for president.
The New York Post has learned.
He's saying that Obama never did anything for the community.
That's like saying Obama is not down for the struggle.
He's saying, Sharpton is saying he never worked with anybody from the community.
He's not down for the struggle.
That nobody knows the people around Barack.
He's not down for the struggle.
And that he's a candidate driven by white leadership.
This quote is from a prominent black Democrat activist who knows Sharpton.
The activist who supports Hillary, I'm sorry, Mrs. Bill Clinton said, when it comes to Al's attacks on Obama, frankly, I don't know where to begin.
Driving Al crazy that Obama is as impressive and popular as he is, and he's not happy about it, said another black Democrat activist.
Sharpt is just terrified of being overshadowed by someone of Obama's class and character.
They say that Al has a personal axe to grind.
Al had wanted to run again for president 2008, but now that Obama's a serious candidate in the race, that has become impossible.
Why?
What?
Well, Barack's clean, he's articulate, he's good-looking, and obviously you can only have one of those on the Democrat side.
So you can't put Sharpton in it.
What do we can only have the Democrats only tolerate one black candidate per presidential race?
And Obama beat the Reverend Sharpton to it.
So now the Reverend Sharpton, because Obama not down for the struggle, is being castigated and ripped.
They're trying to tear Barack Obama down.
If this is true, we'll find out soon enough.
And I have no doubts.
If this is true, and this is just a wild guess, ladies and gentlemen, like your daily weather forecast, I happen to think that we will start hearing from activists close to the Reverend Sharpton and others in the traditional civil rights leadership again, not just in the media, but from these guys.
Is he really black enough?
He's half-white, really black enough.
Not down for the struggle.
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson says he's giving some thought to getting in the presidential sweepstakes.
We will talk about that when we get back from our top-of-the-hour timeout for huge, obscene, Halliburton-type profits.
We, however, are not moving to Dubai.
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