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Jan. 23, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 23, 2007, Tuesday, Hour #2
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I still feel so bad that I tricked you people.
And sometimes it's necessary to do that, though, to really reach out of the radio and grab your attention.
Greetings and welcome back.
It's the Rush Limbaugh program.
Here we are at the one and only distinguished and prestigious Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Telephone number, if you want to be on the program, 800-282-2882, the email address, rush at EIBNet.com.
If you are just tuning in, you're wondering, what did I do to trick the audience?
I told them that President Bush was going to tax a portion of health care benefits as income.
He was going to announce at a State of the Union address tonight.
And then I waited for a half hour to drop the other shoe.
The other shoe is there is a huge tax cut being offered to people who buy their own health insurance.
This is an effort to reduce the price and the cost because most people, the average health care benefit, this is the average health care benefit for the employee today is $11,500.
So you've got benefits cost more than benefits that cost less.
And the proposal tonight, which the Democrats have already said is dead on arrival anyway, is that every dollar over 15,000 of health care benefits will be taxed.
And the purpose here is to try to get people off of employer programs and buy their own for the express purpose of going shopping.
And most people aren't going to go out and buy $15,000 policies or even $11,000 or $12,000 policies every year.
Not going to do it, especially when most people think that healthcare is free.
And let's face it, most of people who have health care as part of their employment, you never see the money.
You get your card, you got a copay, you got whatever you deductible and this sort of thing.
But the overall insurance, you don't pay for it.
You don't think.
You are paying for it.
You just never see the money.
It's what the employer has to pay to employ you.
And so it just, it goes somewhere before it ever gets to you.
Now, what you could do, what a movement would be, okay, employer, instead of giving me the insurance, give me what it is it costs and I'll go buy my own.
I don't think that's going to happen.
So one of the problems there, even if it weren't dead on arrival, as the Democrats say, and they run the Congress right now, how many people do you think who are under the impression, as far as all practicality is concerned, that health insurance is free, it's a benefit, are going to go out and pay for it?
When with what?
I mean, how many families do you know that just have $4,000 or $5,000 hanging around, not used, to go out and buy health insurance?
And probably if the employer does, as this program, if it happened, then as it progressed theoretically, hypothetically, I doubt that the employer would make up in salary what you no longer are going to take as a benefit.
But we'd have to see how that worked itself out.
So the bottom line is, yeah, it's theoretically great in the way that it would introduce market forces.
But health insurance still isn't cheap, even if you do buy it yourself.
And the number of people without vouchers, look, this is really the voucher program without vouchers.
And I've been in favor of this for I don't know how long.
You get a voucher for whatever health care coverage you get every year, and then whatever you don't spend, you get to keep.
And that would encourage people shopping for medical services like they shop for everything else.
But it's all moot, folks.
It's dead on arrival.
The Democrats don't want any part of this.
They don't want any part of market forces.
Private sector involved in this as little as possible is what they want.
They want the government.
They want single pay.
They want national health care.
Hillary's going to rev that back up.
They want everybody dependent on them for health care.
And you know how big health care is to people.
I mean, it's something that people literally panic over if they don't have it, other than those who are choosing not to have it.
So big brouhaha.
The Democrats also, I got to tell you people something.
I know you're out there flexing your muscles and you're feeling awfully big and powerful right now.
And you think you're going to create another Vietnam here.
We're going to get out of Iraq and you're going to save the soldiers.
We're going to bring the soldiers home and it's going to be hunky-dory.
It's going to be peace and light.
And we're going to go back to pre-9-11 and the terrorists are all going to love us again.
It's over.
You're going to make this happen.
I guarantee you this.
If you people persist, and if you do in any way succeed in securing defeat of the U.S. military in Iraq, you have no idea the electoral hell that will descend upon you in November of 2008.
Mark my word.
You people had better be careful that you don't get what you ask for here.
You gutless wonders and the Republicans that are joining them running around with these resolutions don't have the guts to withhold funding.
Don't have the guts to pull the money out of there.
But you have to get on record for whatever personal selfish reason.
General Petraeus said today that this resolution is going to give hope to the enemy and demoralize our troops.
And that got Hillary Clinton all hot and bothered, got her very mad, played her soundbite last hour, a number of other Democrats.
They're getting agitated, particularly because Lieberman and his line of question is really calling the Democrats out on this and these wayward Republicans as well.
Let's go to the audio soundbites here.
I want you to hear Eamon al-Zawahir.
You'll hear him in the background.
It's actually a CNN report, Nick Robertson.
And I guess we could say this is Zawahiri's pre-buttle to President Bush's State of the Union address tonight.
For many ways, this is vintage.
I'm an al-Zawahiri criticizing President Bush in Iraq, saying, why send 20,000 troops?
Why not send another 50,000 or 100,000?
He said they'll be defeated anyway.
Yeah, he's taunting Bush out of the god.
What do we mean?
20,000.
Give us 50.
Give us 100,000 to kill.
You're going to lose them anyway.
And of course, the drive-by media was just salivating and excited as they could be over this.
Who does this sound like, by the way?
Ayman al-Zawahiri, send us 20,000, give us 50.
Why not another 100?
They'll be defeated anyway.
We have heard this somewhere before.
You could put 100,000 troops in, and you're going to up the casualties, up the stakes, increase the violence, and not get a resolution.
Yes, it was John Kerry, ladies and gentlemen, who served in Vietnam.
This was a little over a month ago in December 2006 on the Today Show.
David Gregory was interviewing Lurch, who was in Damascus, Syria, negotiating with terrorists, i.e. Basher Assad.
And Gregory's question was, more troops would not do enough in your estimation to shore up Baghdad, at least give the Maliki government a fighting chance?
You could put 100,000 troops in there.
All you're going to do is up the casualties.
So he, once again, On the same page with Al-Qaeda, John Kerry and the Democrats, whether they know it or not, their instincts lead them to say things that end up being parroted and repeated by Al-Qaeda as though Al-Qaeda are Democrat allies.
Of course, Al-Qaeda was pushing for Democrats last November in the elections.
Up next, I've told you that Mrs. Clinton with her announcement saying that she wanted this national conversation and so forth, all a replica of her New York State campaign for Senate, her listening tour, the whole thing is designed to make sure that she doesn't get any questions because she doesn't want to answer serious questions.
And the press doesn't ask her serious questions anyway, but she wants the focus to be supposedly on you.
Yes, and what you want and what you want to tell her.
And then she can react to that.
And she can control, by the way, which of you she appears before and which of you she chats with and which of those of you she chooses to address and respond.
It's a totally captive audience.
It's a closed ceremonial type thing, if you will, and nobody that's going to cause any trouble or be provocative will be allowed in these conversations.
And I have evidence here that the media already has lost the testicles in Hillary's testicle luckbox.
And you'll hear it right after this.
Don't go away, folks.
My friends, if you thought the news from the Sundance Film Festival yesterday was shocking, wait till you hear about the latest movie drawing raves.
It involves a graphic scene of the rape of a 12-year-old.
And there are people very much concerned that they actually used a 12-year-old actress in this scene.
And people are worried, are we going a little too far?
And they interview her and she's talking about how important it is and what a beautiful film it is.
Sickles, you're on the march.
They're just on the march all over the place.
And it's still Redford out there saying that somehow America needs to apologize to him and his community.
Anyway, I want to go through this Scooter Libby stuff for a second because now, you know, this whole trial has been turned into a political fiasco thanks to the special prosecutor.
As you know, Patrick Fitzgerald in his opening statement today alleged that Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, Scooter Libby, lied and destroyed a note showing Cheney's early involvement.
Fitzgerald said that Cheney told Libby in 2003 that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, and Libby spread that information to reporters.
When that information got out, it triggered a federal investigation.
But when the FBI and a grand jury asked about what the defendant did, Fitzgerald said he made up a story.
Libby says, hey, I was working on national security.
I don't remember the details of this.
Far more important things were going on.
Now, Cheney was not indicted.
There was no crime committed based on the original purpose of the investigation.
This is a process crime.
And now, even though Cheney's not indicted, he's not even an unindicted co-conspirator in the opening arguments.
I'll tell you, those of you who watch Chris Matthews, they may have to put a straitjacket on him and a bucket nearby to control the spittle.
This opening statement, Fitzgerald, is giving them their Fitzmas.
Here's Cheney.
Cheney deeply involved.
Not indicted.
reminds me what they did to Ed Meese when Meese was in the Reagan administration.
I don't remember the total details, but they tried, had a special prosecutor on some loan that he took out for a house in California.
That was all about the appearance of impropriety.
And after the investigation was concluded and there were no charges, the prosecutor still went on television.
Well, they might not have found anything, but we still think he's a rat.
And we still think he's dirty.
And we still think he's guilty.
Go ahead and destroy the guy, even though your own investigation proved nothing.
Fitzgerald's investigation about the original charge of outing a covert CIA agent.
There was no covert, and the leak was from Richard Armitage.
Now his name doesn't even get mentioned.
Fitzgerald knew all this.
Now it's time to rake Cheney over the coals in an opening statement.
Here's the latest.
Attorneys for Scooter Libby said today that Bush administration officials tried to blame Libby for the leak of the CIA operative's name to cover up for Carl Rove's own disclosures.
The prosecution insisted it was Libby who lied about his role in the case.
As the trial opened with a preview of each side case, it was clear the jury will be tasked with sorting through conflicting statements.
The lawyer Theodore Wells for Libby, in opening statements, said Libby went to Cheney in 2003 and complained that the White House was subtly blaming him for leaking Valerie Plam's identity to Robert Novak.
They're trying to set me up.
They want me to be the sacrificial lamb, Wells said, recalling the conversation between Libby and Cheney.
And he quotes Libby as saying, I will not be sacrificed so Carl Rove can be protected.
Let me tell you what I think is going on here, ladies and gentlemen.
I think what is happening here is that Libby's lawyers have figured out that some of the jurors, and Fitzgerald wanted these jurors, hate the White House.
They hate Bush.
They hate Rove.
They hate Cheney.
So they're trying now to distance Libby from the White House and part of the Rove team.
If that's the case, and look, the lawyer's job is to get their client acquitted.
And if we know about the jury selection in this trial because, you know, Fitzgerald wanted all the Bush-hating jurors he could get, and the defense got rid of as many as they could, as they could identify.
But there's still some Bush haters and White House haters on this jury.
It's a D.C. jury.
What do you expect?
And so it's obvious here that the legal team for Libby is doing everything they can to make it look like, hey, he's not part of that White House bunch.
They set him up.
They set him up to save Rove, which is not a bad legal tactic, but I'm just, it is going to feed the drive-by media.
This is like giving a great white shark as much raw meat as he can handle.
You know, some days I sit here and you look out there and it just appears everything's disintegrating right around us.
And that's because there's no elected conservative leadership in Washington that provides a standard for everybody to get in line and follow.
There just isn't.
Everybody's wandered off on the reservation doing their own thing in the Republican Party.
The Libs are who they are.
So it's it.
It's going to, folks, I told you after the election, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
I knew what I was talking about then, as I always do.
And I know what I'm talking about now.
Anyway, this whole trial is nothing now but a political fiasco.
And that's thanks to the special prosecutor and the way he has sought to go about this.
This is a political crime that he is actually trying.
It's a political crime he couldn't find any evidence for.
So he found a process crime, and he's going to use the trial of the process crime to make it look like it's all about politics.
And that, oh, that, the state of the union tonight, the Democrats flexing their muscles against the war in Iraq, I tell you, it might be worth it to turn on some cable news channels tonight just to see if some of these people don't have heart attacks in their glee.
Matthews is going to want to say so much in the first 20 minutes of his show.
Slow down.
It's just going to be a riot.
He's going to want to say so much, and he knows he didn't have time to say everything he wants to say.
It's going to be like listening to chipmunks.
All right.
Audio sound bites.
We'll start with a montage of the fawning of drive-by media anchors Charlie Gibson, Katie Couric, and Brian Williams talking about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
You tell me if these anchors don't already have their testicles in Hillary's lockbox.
Senator, I'd like to get your mission statement, if I could.
You are a strong, credible female candidate for president of the United States.
And I mean no disrespect in this, but would you be in this position were it not for your husband?
There are some people who say another Clinton administration, even if it's a different Clinton, will feel eerily like Groundhog Day.
What would you say to them?
Senator Clinton, even those who approve of you as a candidate have questions about your electability, some of those people.
What would you say to them?
Is it any kind of a burden for you, Senator, that so many opinions are pre-formed?
Americans know Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Well, you're one of the few alive who has seen exactly the journey that is ahead of you.
I don't know if that helps or hurts.
Well, by the way, that cackling that you heard in there, that's Hillary laughing.
Her laugh sounds exactly like this rare species in Arkansas that's called the Arkansas broadbeam.
And it's just, it shows up now.
And whenever she speaks, that species seems to be around.
And that cackling, that, well, I don't want to say witch-like cackling, but it just.
Anyway, you see the demonstration here that we have done for you at the EIB network.
Those are fawning, really tough questions.
Really, the closest, Charlie Gibson may not get his testicles back for a week or two here with this question, would you not even be here if it weren't for your husband?
Because the fact is, Clinton would have never gotten where he got, were it not for her.
And that's why she's entitled.
I have one more of these soundbites, and it's actually an answer that Mrs. Clinton, well, we got two or three of them.
So we'll get to those right after the break coming up here at the bottom of the hour.
And EIB, obscene prophet.
Timeout.
Stay with us.
Screams of joy at the very mention of my name, maybe panic and anger among some of you for the dastardly trick that I pulled on you an hour ago and for which I have since apologized but explained my very good reasons all programming oriented for doing so.
Welcome back.
Our next audio soundbite, Mrs. Clinton, tells Brian Williams, oh, no, no, no, I always planned to announce my candidacy before the State of the Union.
It did nothing to do with Obama.
Well, you know, Brian, this is exactly how I intended to do this.
Once I made up my mind that I was going to contest for the presidential nomination of my party, I wanted to do it on the web.
I wanted to do it before the president, State of the Union, because I wanted to draw the contrast between what we've seen over the last six years and the kind of leadership and experience that I would bring to the office.
So you had always planned to announce before the president, State of the Union, that was our plan, yes.
Well, that's really tough questioning.
Repeat what she said as your next question.
So you really plan to announce before the president's TV, that was our plan.
Obama had nothing to do with it.
Also last night, we don't have the soundbite of this.
But Brian said, who is the real Hillary?
And then you hear that Arkansas broadbeam again, that rare species with that cackle.
And she said, you know, I'm probably the most famous person in the world that nobody really knows.
I was getting ready for my guests to arrive when I saw this last night.
I was testing the wine to make sure it was going to spit it out when I heard this.
Choked on it and spit it.
Nobody knows who Hillary Clinton made me do it again.
You know, folks, in fact, I think that, not to make this personal, but I think I am probably the most famous person that nobody knows.
Because what Mrs. Clinton, what are you frowning at, Brian?
You know it's true.
You know what?
Aside from people who know me, I mean, I'm very famous.
It's the way it is.
And a lot of the people who know of me, but don't listen to this program, have an impression of me that people who know me would not possibly understand or have.
That's why I say I am the most unknown famous person.
Now, everybody knows who and what Hillary Clinton is.
That's one of her problems.
That's why she doesn't want to tackle issues head on because she's just actually afraid of who she is in a political sense.
Now, up next is Meredith Vieiro, also at NBC, this on the Today Show.
That was this morning.
And her question, why do people seem to have that perception of you after knowing you for 15 years?
What I've tried to do in New York and been very pleased that I could get such a great response from the people of my state was to say, look, here's who I really am.
I may be the most famous person you really don't know.
Draw your own conclusion.
Don't draw it from what you hear somebody say on radio or cable TV.
Draw your own conclusion.
And that's why I'm engaged in this conversation.
I started last night on HillaryClinton.com, a web chat, and I'm going to continue it tonight and tomorrow at 7 o'clock because I want people to see me in an unfiltered way.
On the web.
Not to put down the web, but she doesn't want to reach a lot of people.
What is this unfiltered business?
Ever heard of cookies?
There's nothing unfiltered about this.
And this business, don't draw it from what you hear somebody say on radio or cable TV.
Mrs. Clinton, grow up.
Don't start whining about this.
Everybody in public life has to deal with defamation and people lying about them and saying things.
Your problem is people tell the truth about you.
But it is part of public life.
You know, she really does.
She's going to be one of the impeti behind the fairness doctrine being re-implemented if we ever get to that, because she really thinks that talk radio killed her health care plan.
And, well, I did.
I did.
There wasn't too much talk.
It was 1993, and there weren't nearly as many conservative radio programs then as there are now.
Remember, she had that crazy bus trip.
And we just we oh, we disrupted that bus tour.
We destroyed that bus tour.
We had every town it was going into, we had people the bus was forced to take special routes.
It bypassed some towns.
When she got to these towns, they were going to be closed sessions, supposedly of the general public, showing up to support her health care, but they were all prearranged, and you couldn't get in there if you were opposed to it.
This bus tour started in Seattle, supposed to end in Washington.
I don't remember, did it make it or did they abandon it?
It got there.
Okay, it did get there, but boy, it rolled in on fumes.
There was no great triumph when this thing was over.
And yeah, it was happening under cover of darkness, too.
That was never intended.
It was supposed to be a daytime thing with the bus moving around so many could see it with all the pictures and so forth.
And they ended up having to slink around at nighttime for a lot, a lot of this tour.
All right, here's the next question from Meredith Vieira.
Senator Clinton, your husband said last night that he'll do whatever he's asked to do when it comes to your campaign.
What do you want him to do?
He's been my greatest supporter and most effective counselor, and he will continue to do that.
But obviously, he's a tremendous asset because he knows what the job is like.
He had great success on a number of difficult fronts when he was president.
So I'm going to be looking to him for a lot of advice and guidance.
I'm glad I'm not testing wine now because I would spit it out again.
What an insulting answer.
She was in the White House and she was a co-president on a number of issues.
She's testifying up there on health care at Capitol Hill.
She's acting like she's a you know the here's the woman who said, I'm not going to be Tammy Winnett and I'm not going to sit there and bake cookies in the kitchen.
And now what's happened to these Democrat women?
They want to be Ms. Mom.
A nation needs a mother.
And the Queen Bee syndrome is causing a competition here between Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton to pull this off.
Best thing, and I'll tell you what she's told.
And by the way, listen, we've got Clinton because I know what there's only one thing she wants him to do.
And I'll tell you, after you listen to this bite, you tell me if he sounds thrilled here about this.
This is what Clinton said.
He was a book party last night for Terry McAuliffe's book of dreams, and Clinton was talking about his excitement here that Hillary's made it official.
I wish her well.
I'll do whatever I'm asked to do.
I can only tell you this: I know her better than anybody on earth, and she's got the best combination of mind and heart.
Now, does that sound thrill to you?
Does this sound like he's revved up?
It doesn't to me, which leads me to conclude the one thing that she wants him to do, and that's keep his zipper up.
And that's the one thing he doesn't want to do.
He's depressed about this.
If he wants back on Air Force One to fly all over the place while she's in the White House as a roving ambassador to this intern or that intern, then he's going to have to keep his zipper up all the way through 2008.
Well, just not get caught, but I mean, you're running too big a risk.
There's blackmailers out there everywhere.
I mean, the news crews have body watch cameras on these people.
I'm not saying he couldn't do it and get away with it, but I'll tell you, if that happened during the campaign, testicle lockbox wouldn't be enough to contain the body parts that Hillary would try to put in it.
So, you know, in addition to keep the zipper up, don't overshadow me.
Don't go out there and be charming and make these big crowds.
Don't do any more disaster relief because that draws big crowds.
If you do anything, just go overseas and then finally get the money.
That's what Bill's to do.
But man, keeping a zipper up for what, almost two years?
That is a challenge.
Back in just a second.
And we are back.
El Rushbow here on the cutting edge of societal evolution, having more fun than a human being.
Should be allowed to have.
All right, let's go to the phones.
People have been patiently waiting.
Marion, Illinois.
Jay, thanks for waiting and welcome, sir.
Hi.
Hi.
Hey, Rush.
Yes.
Yeah, so Jay, I am a fan, so don't take this wrong.
But, you know, I'm also a fan of President Bush.
And he makes defensive decisions on the war in Iraq.
And I've never heard anybody, and you have pointed these people out, who say he's wrong, but they never come an answer.
But I've also not heard you ever come up with the perfect thing of hindsight, of 2020, hindsight, come up and say, you know, this is what should have been done.
I mean, never, I mean, he has to come up and say and do and be held responsible.
Nobody, nobody ever comes up with an answer.
Now, you will point out that, but I've never had you come up with an answer as well.
And please don't take me wrong because I am a big fan.
Wait a minute.
I'm having trouble.
What are you complaining about regarding me?
What should he have done any different other than, I mean, are you supporting him?
I mean, exactly what he has done?
Or, I mean, because I've heard some of your shows.
How can you say that you're a fan and ask me if I support the president's Iraq policy?
Well, because you do point out sometimes some of the things that maybe he should or should not have done.
No, I don't.
I don't second-guess him on this.
What have you heard me say?
You've never second-guessed him on anything.
He's gone in Iraq.
No.
Okay.
When he announced, maybe the most recent thing, when he announced he's getting rid of generals, putting Petraeus in there.
Yes.
And so forth, I raised the question, okay, how long have you known that they didn't have enough troops?
You know, I asked that hypothetically, looking back, but you, you, why, am I here today?
Am I still asleep and dreaming?
Of all the things I could be criticized for, sabotaging Bush on Iraq.
Hang on a minute.
I'm going to take a drink of Fruit 2-0 here.
If I taste it, I know I'm awake.
Okay, I'm awake.
Baby, I knew things were disintegrating out there, but not this badly.
Jim in Cottage Grove, Oregon, welcome to the EIB Network.
Yeah, I want to talk to you regarding the time you spent in the military service.
Okay.
Ask away.
What branch of service were you in?
What branch?
I wasn't in the service, sir.
I did not serve, as I have said countless times.
Oh.
And so what is your theory, sir, that since I didn't serve, I'm not entitled to have an opinion on the nation at war.
Oh, you're entitled to have an opinion.
I just assumed then that they weren't accepting fat asses and dope kings back then.
You know what?
You know, you guys actually amaze me.
You guys won the election.
The whole Iraq thing, as far as the average person is looking at, is falling apart, and you're still mad.
You are still enraged.
Here's a liberal.
This is what happens.
It only took 30 seconds, less than 30 seconds for the name-calling and the personal insults to come on a topic which I have discussed openly and candidly countless times for 18 and a half years.
Sternly, we're going to have to start putting some limits here on the subject.
These people are just wasting our valuable, busy broadcast time here.
I mean, these guys have never hosted radio talk shows.
They don't have a right to be on one or to comment on how one's done until they've hosted one.
Cindy in Moncton, Maryland, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
It's a thrill, and I just want to say that I'm constantly praying God keeps you alive and healthy.
Can I tell you what it's called about?
Yeah.
Health insurance.
I've purchased my own for over 20 years as a self-employed, single-widowed mother of two who homeschooled through most of the years, so it was costly to my budget.
Presently, it costs me $1,400 a quarter with a high deductible.
But because I buy my own, which I have no choice, I don't have an employer, I have to pay for almost every service that I receive.
So I understand my policy.
Therefore, when I get health care, sorry, I'm nervous.
When I get health care, I ask the doctor or the provider when they're assigning extra tests or medicines or whatever, the validity or the necessity, I should say, of those things.
And I attempt to discuss options.
So I can't remember.
Let me tell you something, right?
You know what?
I do the same thing because I am self-insured.
Well, I'm stepping in here because you're nervous and I want to calm you down.
You don't sound nervous at all.
I would have never known it.
Had you not said it.
Okay.
But I look, but no, same thing.
There is a pattern.
You go to the doctor and you tell them what's wrong.
They've got to do this test.
They're going to do this test.
They go down to that machine.
They go down to that machine before you know it.
Yes.
And it's just, it's just routine.
And they say, wow, I mean, this is part of the diagnostic process.
And it may well be, but if you sit down and talk to us, just tell me what's necessary here.
And if they don't know what's wrong, then be prepared to go to the bank and get a loan.
But if they got an idea early on what's wrong, you're very wise.
What you're telling us, though, is how you shop it to reduce your cost because you're paying for the whole thing.
Absolutely.
And may I say that because I'm one of few in the overall numbers, they mostly get very offended that I would dare to question these things because most people don't and most do not understand their own health insurance policy as also then validated by some other health care providers to me when they're not enamored with their own power.
Yeah.
Well, it's human nature, though.
I mean, if patient comes in and by now doctors know that, and by the way, doctors are getting savaged in this whole thing, too.
I mean, they're not making out like the bandits they used to.
No, but it's still about power and superiority.
The wrong assignment.
Well, now you're talking about doctor attitudes and, you know, but they're not all house MD.
Right, I understand.
But nevertheless, nevertheless, they know that every patient that comes in to see them is going to submit this to insurance and the patient's not paying for it.
Absolutely.
And the patient is assuming it's all going to be paid for with whatever co-pays and deductibles that there are.
And it's human nature that costs would spiral in such a circumstance when nobody thinks they're paying for it.
Nobody in this whole process thinks they're paying for it.
The magical health insurance company is paying for it, or the government's paying for it, or the employer is paying for it.
They're not paying for it.
It gets paid, but they don't actually write the check other than the copay and the deductibles and so forth.
It's like Daytona Beach, Florida.
They got a homeless problem.
You know what they're doing?
They're going to create a homeless village.
They're going to round up all the homeless people, going to put them in one place.
They think that's going to solve a problem.
You know what's going to happen?
More and more homeless people are going to discover they're homeless.
Or more and more people are going to discover they're homeless.
They're going to want to move into a homeless village.
And then the people that live near the homeless village, which is going to expand, are going to leave.
And they're going to move out to the burbs or wherever they go.
And the whole population mix in Daytona Beach is going to be changed forever because this homeless village is going to be looked at as a giveaway.
And that's why people are going to flock to it.
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