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Jan. 22, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 22, 2007, Monday, Hour #3
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And greetings to you, thrill seekers, music lovers, conversationalists.
All across the fruited plain, it's the award-winning Rush Limbaugh program.
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Happy to have you with us here on a raucous Monday, kicking off a brand new week of broadcast excellence.
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During the break here at the top of the hour, Mr. Snerdley, the official program observer, asked me to observe which Democrat, or to answer the question, which Democrat be the first to flame, not second tier guys, but the Hillary is the Obamas who else is in the first tier?
Hillary, Obama, Edwards?
Probably I don't know.
He thinks it's uh well, he didn't tell me.
I said my instinctive reaction was it's gonna be Obama because of the Clinton war room.
And then I'm thinking about it.
You know, Obama, when you listen to him talk, is out there saying things that are not baby boomer like.
And I wouldn't be surprised.
In fact, I'd there's a part of me that would relish this and enjoy it, and that is the baby boomer generation getting kicked into behind by Generation Y and some of the other younger generations.
Uh and Hillary, you know, what is he, sixty or gonna be sixty by the time uh eight runs around.
You know, it'd be kind of cool if Generation Y said to generation baby boom.
You've had it.
We're tired of your selfishness and your self-focus and your selfishness and so forth, but we'll we'll see.
I mean, you have to say in a contest of war rooms, dirty tricks and all that.
Wouldn't you say the Clinton's operation is going to be far more advanced and head of the game than the Obama machine?
We shall see.
From Park City, Utah, this is where the Sundance Film Festival is taking place.
Among the many exhibits, the documentary called Zoo.
It's about what the director Robinson Devore accurately characterizes as the last taboo on the boundary of something comprehensible.
The last taboo on the boundary of something comprehensible, but remarkably, an elegant, eerily lyrical film has resulted.
This is in the LA Times, by the way.
Zoo, premiering before a rapt audience Saturday night at Sundance, manages to be a poetic film about a forbidden subject.
A perfect marriage between a cool and contemplative director and potentially incendiary subject matters, sex between men and animals.
Not graphic in the least.
This strange and strangely beautiful film combines audio interviews with visual recreations intended to conjure up the mood and spirit of situations.
The director himself put it best, quote, I aestheticized the sleaze right out of it.
Unquote.
By the way, some of these audio interviews, uh two of the three men who involve were involved did not want to appear on cameras, or they're just audio interviews.
Dever and his writing partner live in Seattle, and they were stunned, as were many in the state, by a story that broke in 2005 about a local man who died after having sex with an Arabian stallion.
We uh talked about this story on the program here, and it's state of Washington's perfectly okay to have sex with a horse as long as it can be shown the horse enjoyed it.
Or better put, it's perfectly okay to have sex with a horse as long as you can prove that the can't prove the horse didn't enjoy it.
At any rate, uh bestiality is not illegal in Washington.
The subsequent revelation of the existence of an internet-based zoophile community, a zoophile community.
Uh, the men refer to themselves as zoos, hence the title was a shock.
Though there was the inevitable tabloid fuss.
What the director called the prurient spectacle, the filmmaker was also shocked that nobody did an in-depth look at this, that there was no investigative reporting rounding the story out with the psychology involved.
He said, Well, This is an opportunity for my documentary.
Though the movie or the documentary Zoo is intent on allowing these men to be heard, the director's intention was not polemical.
I'm not in there wrestling with a legal or animal cruelty issues.
I'm not doing that.
I envisioned a film like my others.
I count on the natural world pulling my films through.
The natural world is a guy having sex with an Arabian stallion.
I thought the marriage of this completely strange mindset and the beauty of the natural world could be something interesting.
In introducing Zoo at Sundance, Dever called it a difficult film and a difficult film to make.
Yeah, I wonder why.
He added a lot of people looked at me as if I was an exploitative person dredging up something for profit.
That bothered me.
I was certainly asked many times, often with a wrinkled brow, why are you making this film?
It was something I did resent.
I I thought artists had the opportunity to explore anything.
In the end, the director ended up agreeing with the Roman writer Terrence, who said I consider nothing human alien to me.
It happens.
Meeting sex with horses, so it's part of who we are.
And this is something at Sundance that's getting raves.
Well, you you you joke.
H.R. Sydney IFB, wait for the musical.
What is this show in New York you were telling me about, uh, Mr. Snurley?
What's the title of this show?
Do you know the title of this show?
It's a show about masturbation on stage in New York, right?
And the actors are 17 to 20.
Teenage sexuality, it's the rave apparently of this Broadway or off-Broadway, do you know?
It's Broadwood.
Okay, so at Sundance we've got we've got bestiality is uh as a as a favored and highly recommended documentary.
You've got on stage sex with teenagers in New York as the rave.
And have you heard about the uh masturbation room at Atlanta's Heartsfield Airport?
You haven't heard you haven't heard about this.
You know, I've been doing a little test.
I saw this last week, and I have been waiting for news of this to spread, and it has not.
The story hit in Atlanta, I think it was on Friday night, and uh some local media in North Carolina because one of the guys involved here.
Uh but uh well, actually it hasn't it hasn't hit in North Carolina.
That's that's the point.
Now Mike Adams of Townhall.com has written a piece about this.
Here are the details.
It should come as no surprise that a men's arrest room at Hearts Fail Hartsfield Jackson International Airport, Atlanta, has become a playground for those who want to masturbate in public and have sex with men they don't even know.
After all, Atlanta's a hotbed of gay activity in public restrooms or favorite gathering places.
But but some may be surprised that since December, police officers have arrested and charged eleven men with public indecency in the Atlanta airport.
There's a huge, huge uh prostitution investigation going on in Atlanta.
I mean, it's it's it's all over the place.
Atlanta, the suburbs, and it's all it's even gotten out into the airport now, and then this this technically not part of the prostitution uh investigation, but they're investigating sex and they're finding all kinds of it in uh public places.
Uh there's some may be surprised that since December, police officers have arrested and charged eleven men with public indecency in the Atlanta airport.
That's because you might be surprised because there's been little talk about the arrests, and that in turn may have something to do with the fact that the dirty nearly dozen, which is what these eleven are being called, a dirty nearly dozen includes a University of North Carolina professor Dr. Hugh Telson and Spellman College professor Lev T. Mills.
Now it's not surprising to find out that Lev Mills is a professor of art.
Such departments attract some of the most far out nonconformists among us.
But it is surprising that Dr. Hugh Tilson is a professor of public health at the University of North Carolina.
Before his arrest, I'd always considered public masturbation to run contrary to the public health.
But in the age of diversity, I'm becoming increasingly willing to reconsider some of my basic assumptions, some of which may be based on antiquated notions of morality.
So last Thursday and Friday, it was discovered eleven men arrested and charged, public and decent.
There's a room.
And it's in the under.
They they know where this room is.
I don't know where it is, but there's a room in the Atlanta Airport in one of the terminals where if you if you want to go have sex with men and masturbate, you know where this room is.
The word has sort of spread.
And one of the guys arrested was the professor of public health at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, Dr. Hugh Tilson.
And this guy is apparently from what I've been able to understand highly regarded.
Married kids, grandkids in his early 60s.
If this guy were Republican legislator, do you think this story would not have made the wires?
I mean, there's a reason this story doesn't get around, and uh and others like the Foley story do.
Uh ladies and gentlemen, just it's a treatise on Monday's treatise on many the media, um the debasement.
Look at what there we have it.
In Utah, we got a documentary on bestiality.
In New York, we got a stage show on Broadway about teenage sex.
Uh does it include masturbation or not?
Okay.
And does that occur on stage?
Is that what you're telling me?
You gotta be kidding me.
It the last act, the last act.
All right.
Ho.
Uh yeah, front row might be a dangerous place to sit.
And then in Atlanta, you've got the masturbation room at Atlanta Heartsfield Internet.
And Robert Redford wants an apology from us.
Hey, here's the here are the details on the uh Broadway show.
New York teenage sex scenes show a naked breast, masturbation and sadomasochism.
And it says here that that's not the usual Broadway fair, but Spring Awakening has become the surprise hit musical of the season while being hailed as tastefully erotic.
Adapted from the German playwright Frank Wiedekin's then scandalous 1891 play, Spring Awakening, looks at the angst of Haskrul students and their sexual awakening in repressed 19th century Germany.
With song titles such as The Bitch of Living and Touch Me, the show opened on Broadway last month to glowing reviews that compared its contemporary rock song score to that of the prize winning rent.
Its run was recently extended.
Spring Awakening makes sex strange again.
No mean feat in our mechanically purrent age, said New York Times critic Charles Isherwood, uh calling the show a straight shot of eroticism as it tastefully deals with provocative topics such as abortion, homosexuality, and abuse.
Tastefully.
Robert Redford wants an apology from us.
Tastefully, tastefully deals with provocative topics like abortion, homosexuality, and abuse.
Spring Awakening has scenes between the lead male and female characters that include an erotically charged one in which she encourages a spanking with a wooden plank, leading to the exposure of a bare breast.
Similarly, one of the secondary characters displays homosexual longings, that's the desires here.
Well, maybe not.
Uh, and comically sings and masturbates center stage surrounding surrounded by dancing females.
What makes this tasteful to the New York Times critic?
What in the world makes this taste?
What is tasteful about spanking somebody with a wooden plank while she's got an exposed breast?
Critics and the show's creators, playwright Stephen Sater and composer Duncan Sheikh say the show is less about sex than about staying true to teen spirit.
The cast members of 17 to 22.
I guess I could be convinced it's less about sex if there weren't that masturbation scene center stage in the second act.
Jody in uh Lake Orient, Michigan.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi.
Hey, I'm so excited to talk to you.
I'm gonna win big points with my son in college.
Um hey, I've heard you talk about all the Republican candidates, but I haven't heard you say a thing about Senator Brownback.
What are your uh thoughts on you?
You are right.
I am sorry.
Yeah.
I forgot about Senator Brownbeck.
Well, apparently so did everybody.
Good morning America didn't mention him.
I mean I think Hillary kind of trumped him.
Why do you think well, let's see, yeah, uh yeah, but also aren't talking about Duncan Hunter uh much, who has uh said that he is uh going to run as well.
So what do you what do you think about Brownback's chances?
My son seems to think that he is too much church and state and people are tired of it.
And I love your song because my son's telling me McCain's our only chance for uh Republican president in two thousand eight and and you know I I second your song.
Your cowboy song is perfect.
I um I don't know what I think r of any of it.
I This is this is tough.
You know, I don't get involved in primaries.
I generally don't endorse in primaries and this is it's so early.
There is so much yet to happen and fall out.
Yeah.
Uh and and I you know, d to be honest with you, there's nobody out there that revs me up, so why should I pretend that there is?
Yeah.
Not to say there won't be.
But I don't think that you know, I hate to see Brown back just disregarded because he's a no name right now.
I mean, he's talk about conservative values.
You know, I mean he's Well, you know something?
I I I I have to tell you something.
I uh i if if it's it's gonna be up to him to get noticed.
Yeah.
It's up to everybody in public life who wants to run for office or to get noticed.
You know, when I was struggling young disc jockey when I was seventeen, sixteen and so I would have loved if my radio station had gone out and bought a bunch of billboards and television advertising to tell my little town all about me, but it doesn't work that way.
Yeah.
And it's it's it's gonna be up to these guys to get it.
It's gonna be a challenge for any Republican who's not McCain or Giuliani.
Yeah uh or Mitt Romney, because they've um they've got you know the early media attention on this.
But all it's gonna take is a couple wins, surprise wins in primaries, the whole thing can be upset.
I mean, you can think back to uh two thousand four when it was Howard Dean, Howard Dean, Howard Dean, Howard Dean.
Then the first primary came, the Hawkeye Calcai, uh oh, and then following that in New Hampshire, uh oh, and all of a sudden he screamed and he was gone, and John Kerry, who was being laughed at and ridiculed off the stage and should have stayed there, was vaulted simply because Democrats thought he could win, not because they knew anything about him or thought he was really great, they just thought he was electable.
Well, I think if Brownback sticks, you know, sticks to his principles and his conservative roots.
I I know nothing of his economic, you know, beliefs or plans.
So I guess that's where I I'm kind of curious what you know, but um, hey, you know what?
Just talking to you, I've been catapulted into stardom with my son, so I'm just thrilled for the opportunity.
Where where is your son?
Oh, you're not gonna like it.
Why would you think that?
He's at Harvard.
That's okay.
Yeah.
Well, he's...
Everybody has to be somewhere.
...the Republican club.
He's really staying, you know, true to his conservative values.
And my daughter and my son actually are...
Actually I have three kids who are gonna be able to vote for the city.
Whatever Harvard is, one thing is it's not easy to get in there unless you know somebody.
No, he's a no, he's a bright kid.
He you know, my husband I went to two years of community college, my husband went to Penn State University.
I mean, we have no connections.
He's a great one.
Okay, so he got in he got in there on the basis of merit, right?
He did, and I Well, and it's fine.
I hope he uh yeah, you know, I hope he can have his chance in two thousand twenty-four, actually.
Well, you know, l one one of the things, if if you look this is just one of the realities of of life.
I mean, it's not universal.
There are exceptions to it, but these Northeastern Ivy League schools produce the people that end up as bureaucrats, ambassadors, presidential candidates and this sort of thing.
There's a lot of What is the Kennedy's what do you think the Kennedy School of Government really is?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a little indoctrination center, but if you get out of there, you've already you've got a pedigree.
You're already qualified to wear the striped pants and those official diplomat shoes, the lace up job.
Well, and you know, it's great networking.
He's meeting a lot of great people and important people, and uh in fact Senator Brownbach is coming to his school um tomorrow, but he's uh they have their winter break, so he's gotta leave, so he won't be there to uh to meet him, but well, there'll be plenty of other chances to meet Senator Brown back.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, again, well, hopefully he'll get a chance to meet all the Republican candidates, you know.
But um, keep your keep your ears open for him in two thousand twenty-four.
Well, Jody, I'm it's uh I I know he had announced I just it just did slip my mind, uh, just as Duncan Hunter did.
He's also Yeah, well, I like I said, any, you know, you don't have to keep me on the line, I know your time is precious, but any thoughts you have on uh, you know, either one of them, I I like I said, just Hillary took all the news today, which you know.
But the Democrats are gonna get all the you better get used to this.
Oh, I know, I know the whole focus of the media is uh the how the Democrats gonna keep their advantage in the House in the Senate and how are they gonna win the white house.
Well, and that's why we need you to to remember guys like don't worry, I will be there.
Just don't get depressed when the media is who they are.
And let you down.
They are who they are.
Hi.
Welcome back, L. Rushboa, America's anchor man, real anchor man, uh truth detector, and doctor of democracy.
All combined is one harmless, lovable little fuzzball.
Uh here we are at 800 two eight two two eight eight two.
All right.
You remember that New York Times story of last week, which claimed that more women were now unmarried than were married in the country.
It turns out that the Times interpreted the Census Bureau data entirely wrong, and almost it appears purposefully, so as to advance another far left wing extremist agenda, i.e.
the redefinition of a family, the redefinition of traditional marriage, and so forth and so on.
There have been Michael Medved has written about this, uh our good buddy from Seattle, who has his own show, a movie critic, extraordinaire, renaissance man, if you will.
And now also here uh Peter J. Smith at LifeSight News.com.
The New York Times has once again published another hit piece on the institution of marriage, alleging that for the first time more American women are living without a husband than with one.
However, US Census data for two thousand five shows that the January sixteenth front page story in the New York Times is just another disturbing showcase of the Times tolerance for journalistic malpractice.
Sam Roberts wrote on the Times front page on January sixteenth, for what experts say is probably the first time more Americans uh uh women are living without a husband than with one.
According to a Times analysis of census results.
He wrote in two thousand five, fifty-one percent of women said they were living without a spouse.
Up from thirty-five percent in nineteen fifty and forty-nine percent in two thousand.
He adds uh that now married couples make up a minority of all American households, and the trend could ultimately shape social and workplace policies, including the ways government and employers distribute benefits, which, by the way, a little hidden paragraph in the opening of the story, which was the key to this whole thing, in addition to the advancement of the whole destruction of the institution of marriage thing.
The plain truth is, writes Peter Smith.
The plain truth is that Robert's findings are at variance with U.S. Census reports for two thousand five, which demonstrate a far different picture from the profiles selected by Roberts of single women delighting in their newfound freedom.
According to the two thousand five report, marital status of the population by sex and age, the United States is not yet a culture that has discarded the institution of marriage.
Sixty point four percent of men, fifty-six point nine percent of women over eighteen are married.
However, Roberts, the New York Times, creates his own analysis by using the Census Bureau's living arrangements of persons fifteen years old and over by selected characteristics.
So if you're fifteen and you don't have a spouse, you can be added into the statistic.
They do this.
I don't know why, I don't suspect it all the time.
They do this with polling data in the way they sample respondents and so forth.
Roberts creates his own analysis by using the Census Bureau's living arrangements of persons fifteen years old and over by selected characteristics, by including in his fifty one percent figure of women living without a spouse spouse these types of people unmarried teenage and college girls still living with their parents, women whose husbands work out of town, uh women whose husbands are institutionalized.
I wonder what that number is, or women who are separated from husbands serving in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And that's why it was worded the way it was.
This guy 51% said living without a spouse.
The headline said something about marriage, but in the the body of the story, living without a spouse.
Well, hell.
If you're 15 and you get lumped in this group by the New York Times, and you're living with your parents, you'd have a spouse, yeah, you're living without a spouse because you don't have one.
And they also include other areas where you do have a spouse, but you're not living with them.
Either the spouse is in an institution having lost his mind, or is in a rock or Afghanistan.
The zoo people in Washington.
Oh, speaking of zoos, folks, I have to share something with this.
A tragedy has occurred here in our area of Palm Beach County.
Uh there was a tiger named Tony, but it was spelled Towney, T-O-W-N-E-E.
Tony the Tiger died last week at age 20.
It was in the Palm Beach Zoo.
Where is the zoo?
I know it's not in Palm Beach.
It's a where?
Summit and what?
I don't know where Summit Boulevard is, and just how many miles away?
What golf course?
Oh, it's close to the jail then.
Because Trump's golf, you know, you the great thing about Trump's golf course.
Well, it's a great thing for the jail prisoners can look out the window and watch people playing golf at Trump's golf course.
Okay, so it's by the airport then.
The zoo's over there by the airport.
Well, that's not Palm Beach.
Palm Beach is an island, and we have no zoo other than the odd residents that look like they need to be caged on anyway.
One of the I want you to read the obituary.
I want to listen to the obituary, a bit obituary here in the Palm Beach Daily News.
We call it the Shiny Sheet because the front page is shiny.
And the purpose of the Palm Beach Daily News is to tell who was at what party the night before, and maybe there are pictures.
One of the well, that's what it is, and whether stop lights are not working and when the bridges are going to be closed, and uh, you know, who's been turned down by the RCOM committee on the way they want to remodel their house and who's being sued for crossing the coastal construction line.
That's what you get from the shiny sheet.
But they did an obituary on this tiger.
I want you to listen to this.
One of the longest living residents of the Palm Beach Zoo was euthanized Thursday evening following years of failing health because of arthritis and kidney failure.
Tony the tiger was at twenty one of the oldest tigers living in captivity, according to the zoo.
The zoo's veterinarian cared for the Bengal tiger for much of the cat's life.
A unique bond had formed between us.
He never growled at me, even when I gave vaccines and other medical injections, said the vet in a statement on Friday.
Tony was born in January of 87, was given to the zoo following his confiscation by the state from a Miami resident, keeping him illegally in a small enclosure.
The 400-pound cat lived at the zoo with a female companion, Callie, from 1989 until Callie's death from cancer in March 2002.
They had moved into a new home together in 2000 upon the opening of the jungle-like cageless 10,000 square foot Tiger Falls area.
As though the Tony and Callie moved into a new house in a subdivision called Tiger Falls.
Mata and Rimba, two young Malaysian tigers brought from the San Diego Zoo, joined Tony at Tiger Falls subdivision in separate quarters last November.
Those who wish to give a gift in the cat's memory can mail them to the Palm Beach Zoo Tiger Conservation Fund at 1301 Summit Boulevard West Palm Beach.
I read this and how cute.
And there's a picture of this tiger here, and it reminded me of the video we saw of the lion that jumps out of its cage to embrace the woman who saved it from abuse in a zoo or a circus or some such the most incredible video ever is lion kissing this woman and embracing the woman and a woman.
And they got a great picture here, a little little Tony the tiger.
It was 400-pound cat.
But just the whole notion that had a wife or girlfriend, they moved into a new subdivision.
They Tony and Callie moved into Tiger Town.
My local paper.
Back in a second.
Hi, welcome back.
Great to have you.
Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have Rush Limbaugh on the E.I.B. Netherwork.
You heard about this uh this uh retired French professor from Greeley, Colorado.
Uh she's a what's her name?
Kathleen Ann, she's a Democrat.
She sent dog feces to her Congresswoman, Republican Marilyn Musgrave, and she now faces a misdemeanor charge uh using a noxious substance.
Her lawyer argues that um she's got a First Amendment right to leave dog poop at her Congresswoman's office.
Constitutional right to do this.
She faces a misdemeanor on all this, but the lawyer says it's a form of free expression, expression that is uh protected by the First Amendment.
That's uh man, I it also the the the religious left out at uh SMU, Southern Methodist University, they're all a Twitter out there.
That SMU is uh being considered as a site for President Bush's library uh once he leaves office.
Lefty ministers filled with uh Bush hate are pushing an online petition that says, as United Methodists, we believe that the linking of uh his presidency with a university bearing the Methodist name is utterly inappropriate.
Methodist, and I don't see anything inappropriate about it.
Uh now would you not describe that as in tire?
Here we have a Democrat claiming a constitutional right to send dog feachies to a Republican Congresswoman, the same time some United Methodist ministers claiming that it just is inappropriate for the Bush Library to be an SMU.
Strikes me as a bit intolerant.
Like the people at SMU want to impose their views on everybody.
Like it's bigoted.
But their libs, they think their poop doesn't stink, except the poop that they send to Republicans, which they want to stink.
But that's dog poop, not theirs.
Uh George in South Windsor, Connecticut, welcome to the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, how are you?
Hey, funky dory.
Well, you know, just uh real quick at that show that you were talking about ever showed in California.
The spanker could get arrested, so he better uh stay in New York and not California.
But uh that's not uh the reason why.
Wait, the Broadway show you mean about the uh tasteful uh depictions of masturbation uh abortion on stage.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah, spanking is illegal now, I guess in California.
Oh, spanking is legal.
Well, not yet, no, no, no, no.
You still have time to beat the crap out of kids.
It's just been proposed.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Well, uh, the reason I called us to kind of explain why Obama is such a big hit in the drive-by media, and all the pieces are coming together.
First, he studied Islam.
Second, his middle name is Hussein.
In his biography book, he talked about smoking pot and doing cocaine.
He's got a liberal record far to the left, and he's African American.
I mean, he is an Uber liberal.
He is it.
This is why they love him.
Yeah, but he's he's actually not African American.
Uh that doesn't matter.
Come on.
Well, just uh look at we go for accuracy on this program.
But look, look at your you're right.
Basically, you're you are putting in different words my own description of Obama.
He is godlike to the godless.
Absolutely.
Well, there you have it.
It's gonna be interesting to see.
I I um uh uh the well here let me go to Gary in Atlanta.
He's got a theory on this too.
Gary, welcome.
Nice to have you with us here on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Gary, Aquafine uh Rush, uh Aquafino drinking Atlanta Falcons ditto.
I've got a point about a secret weapon that Barack Obama will use in the uh the Democrat nomination process.
Yeah, the Oprah.
If when he goes on, there's not going to be a mad rush to New Hampshire.
There's gonna be a mad rush to the Oprah show.
He's already been on Oprah, hasn't he?
Has he with his uh with his book?
Well, maybe so, but did he announce it?
No, he didn't know.
He he promised Oprah he would announce on her show, didn't he?
I don't remember that.
Uh but I know if you put an Oprah meter on the show.
Somebody promised.
Anyway, go I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Keep going.
If you were to put an Oprah meter on the show, he would just swamp Al Gore, Hillary, everyone.
And Dick Morse uh theorized that what's gonna get Hillary over the top is the single women vote.
And, you know, he's gonna go to Oprah.
He's gonna make a big play for that segment, and he'll get it.
So uh he's gonna be a lot for the vice.
Well, what happens though?
What if what if Oprah actually chooses Hillary and thinks that uh she ought to give her big push to Hillary?
Just playing devil's advocate with you here.
I don't think she's gonna come out because she's always gonna be a touchy filly.
I'm not taking sides.
She'll take sides, no doubt, but she won't announce it, I don't think.
Okay, so you think Oprah will get uh Barack Obama elected president or just get him the Democrat nomination.
I don't think he'll get the nomination.
Hillary can outstand him, but he will probably be a lock for the vice presidential nomination.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I keep hearing that bandied as about as a as a theory.
That's right.
Oprah did get Obama promise to announce on her show.
Remember, he just he just I knew that was true.
He just formed his exploratory committee, but he hasn't officially announced.
He promised he would do it on Oprah's show.
I don't know.
I I mean I mean I don't want Hillary.
My my take is at this early stage, looking at Hillary.
Uh I know the overriding thing is to win so that Bill can get Air Force One back.
But and of course, winning is winning and you deal with everything after that.
But will she want the win to be in any way credited to her vice presidential candidate Obama?
Uh will she be able to handle that?
I mean, within her so with the press making big oohs and ahs over Obama.
Uh my point is I don't know if she would put him on the ticket if she succeeds in vanquishing the gun.
Depends.
Folks, it's so t I I must say it's so early for all of this.
I I uh I'm I'm watching these cable networks go wall to wall with this, and it's too soon.
I'm telling you, none of what happens right now matters.
It isn't gonna matter.
Hill beans.
When you go to vote on whatever it is in 2008, November, you're not gonna remember what was happening right now.
It will not matter.
Not until we start getting to primaries and all polls right now.
None of it matters, Republican or Democrat side.
Uh it's it's no different than starting to talk about who's gonna win the Super Bowl in July before training camp is even opened.
And even then, when you start talking about it in September, it's still risky because you don't know the factors that are gonna enter into it, like injuries, coaching changes, weather, global warming, any number of factors that can throw the monkey wrench into any football season.
This is just I I'm look at I'll be glad to talk about it with you, but I'm not gonna hold myself to anything I say because it's frankly stupid to start making predictions about what's gonna happen in the 2008 primaries on either party right now because nobody knows.
Now, if I get a political sense about something based on, then I'll share that with you.
But to sit here and pretend this is a hot stove league, like in December talking about the next baseball season.
I'm not interested.
This stuff is gonna be in our face, and we're not gonna be able to get rid of it soon enough.
Until then, let's enjoy ourselves.
Back in just a second.
All right, folks, I gotta skate out of here.
I got ten people coming over for dinner tonight.
New York strip steaks on the menu from uh Allen Brothers, creamy Rosoto with white truffles, and three different vintages of um 1961 Bordeaux.
So gonna be a big, big night.
And no, we're not talking about politics.
Uh, we'll be talking about me.
Talking politics and golf, and who knows whatever.
And it would be fun.
I hope to be cogent tomorrow.
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