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Jan. 15, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 15, 2007, Monday, Hour #3
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
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Now, uh, ladies and gentlemen, remember we did the uh story mere moments ago about uh New Jersey State Senator Joe, uh John Adler Democrat who has sponsored a proposal to allow New Jersey schools to stop teaching their students about certain American holidays, Veterans Day, Memorial Day, Columbus Day, and Thanksgiving, and a legislature passed this unanimously.
So I got an email note from uh Joseph Glass in Flushing, New York, he said, Hey, I just emailed Governor Corzine.
No, I just I just emailed the governor in New York, which would be the Spitz.
Uh Elliot Spitzer, and it told him if New Jersey stops teaching about these holidays, New York should stop teaching kids about New Jersey.
I'll go even further.
Why don't you in the New Jersey public school system stop teaching about New Jersey?
If none of these other things are worth teaching and commemorating and uh explaining, stop teaching about your own state.
One more thing about the Duke lacrosse case.
This is a piece by John Banzaff III.
Uh John Banzeff is the professor of public interest law at the George Washington University Law School.
And I've had my disagreements with Banzef over the years.
He was head of an organization called Action on Smoking and Health, and he was one of the lead instigators in getting smoking ban from uh uh airplanes, which was fine, but uh it was wanted the government to do all these things, and I've always, you know, let private industry police themselves.
Instead of having government force them to do it.
But anyway, he's written a piece here.
Uh for something called the Lincoln Tribune.com.
It's an opinion piece.
The Duke rape case could create major civil liability not only for D.A. Nyphon, but also for Durham County.
As the rape case against the three Duke Lacrosse players continues to unravel, and instances of apparent prosecutorial misconduct multiply, it appears increasingly likely that the accused students will be able to recover civil damages against the county and maybe against NIFON, says the public interest law professor who has successfully uh successfully orchestrated legal actions against government figures, including AgNU, who is what you Banz Eff is.
Although prosecutors generally enjoy absolute immunity from civil liability for violence, I get this.
This is what he says here's true.
I'm I'm just it just I know it, but to read it is just to show you, folks, how powerless you are when the criminal justice system comes calling.
Although prosecutors generally enjoy absolute immunity from civil liability for violating the constitutional rights of defendants.
There are instances, and this may well be one of them, where that immunity doesn't ply.
Moreover, Durham County, uh North Carolina, does not have absolute immunity, and so the county could be held liable for millions of dollars in civil damages, even if knife won is protected from lawsuits.
Generally, district attorneys acting within their narrow role as prosecutors, have absolute immunity and cannot be sued, even if they violate a defendant's constitutional rights intentionally, in bad faith, and with malice.
They are protected even though they might do all of that.
This means that even if it can be proven that knife wong engaged in gross prosecutorial misconduct in prosecuting the students while knowing they were innocent, and did so wrongfully and only for political purposes.
He might not be held civilly liable.
Now, on the other hand, there's a little exception here.
On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court has carved out an exception.
When a prosecutor is acting not as an advocate performing functions intimately connected with the judicial phase of the proceeding, but rather as an investigator or administrator in such a cases.
He enjoys only qualified immunity, and can he be held liable if his misconduct violated clearly established legal standards of which a reasonable prosecutor would have shown.
Now, even if Naifong's found to be shielded from civil liability by absolute immunity, such immunity does not apply to the county which he represents, so Durham County, North Carolina, could wind up being civilly liable even in NIFON escapes.
Considering the emotional suffering, not to mention the legal and other out-of-pocket expenses, this criminal proceeding has subjected the defendants too.
A jury could award a very significant verdict to compensate them.
So it's a long shot.
And the reason that I bring this up is because there's this post at Time Magazine, a real clear politics, which concludes this way, it's looking more and more like disbarment and further disgrace await this district attorney.
In that sense, seems like justice finally may be done in this case, but not before a whole lot of lives and reputations have been ruined in the uh in the process.
That was caused me to ask, just I mean, I can't recall any prosecutors being sued civilly for defamation, anything.
It just doesn't I it may have happened, I just don't recall it.
Obviously, it has because the Supreme Court has carved out this famous uh exception, which limits some of the total immunity prosecutors have.
Here is uh an interesting story, too.
Now, this is in the London Sunday Times.
And it's it's fascinating on Martin Luther King Day.
We've already had the story, but most college students have no clue what Martin Luther King was really all about, despite Black History Month, despite all the liberals running academia.
He's a media darling, a paparazzi target, a source of inspiration for millions of Democrats who dream of retaking the White House in 2008.
But Senator Barack Obama, the charismatic African American who's shaking up the presidential primary race, has not impressed some of America's most powerful black activists.
Civil rights leaders who have dominated black politics for much of the past two decades have pointedly failed.
Actually should be a period right there and forget the rest of the sentence, because it's true.
Civil rights leaders who have dominated black politics for much of the past two decades have pointedly failed.
To embrace Obama, who is considering a bid to become the first black, actually be second because Bill Clinton was first, but supposed to announce his exploratory committee this week.
Uh according to some early reports out there.
Anyway, at a meeting of activists in New York last week, the uh Reverend Dax, hmm.
Uh the first black candidate to run for president declined to endorse Obama.
Our focus right now is not on who's running because there are a number of allies running.
The uh Reverend Dax said, the Reverend Sharpton, the fiery New York preacher who joined the Democrat primary race in 2004 said he was considering another presidential run of his own, and who's Obama?
Harry Belafonte, the Calypso singer, who became an influential civil rights influential to who?
He said America needed to be careful about Obama.
We don't know what he's truly about.
The unexpected coolness between the old Civil Rights Guard and Obama has added an intriguing twist to the budding rivalry between Obama and Senator Clinton, who hopes to emulate her husband in attracting support from well, it's a good thing they didn't put a period there, who hopes to emulate her husband.
I'd like pay to watch that.
The importance of the black vote and the still potent influence of community leaders such as the Reverend Dax and Sharpton was underlined last week when both Clinton and Obama appeared at different times in New York at a black business conference organized by the uh Reverend Dax monochrome coalition.
Clinton was applauded at a breakfast uh meeting for her attacks on President Bush's economic policies and tax breaks for the rich.
It's it's not rich Americans who've made this country great.
It's hardworking Americans who have worked hard to lift themselves up and their children up.
And the more Democrats are in power, the harder they have to work to keep what they have.
Because if Democrats are perfecting one thing, folks, it's this.
They excuse me, they have what it takes to take what we've got.
They have just perfected it.
Obama's charm and eloquence have not wooed the old guard.
A Democrat strategist who didn't want to go public with this said they're just basically jealous.
They've been troiling in the uh toiling in the trenches for decades, and along comes this son of a Kenyan farmer, and suddenly he's measuring the drapes in the Oval Office.
Yeah, that's uh that's true.
It's uh it's fascinating.
And I think there is a lot of this, you know, jealousy to this.
But you know, folks, there's something else about this too.
The uh the black leadership.
Story says they failed to embrace Barack Hussein Obama.
He's in good company, actually.
The self-centered, ego-driven, do nothings repudiation of outstanding black public servants includes Condoleezza Rice and Clarence Thomas.
So he's in good company in that regard.
Anyone or anything that uh that threatens to undermine the authority of the Reverend Zax or L. Sharpton to speak for black America is deemed a threat.
So if they're gonna be jealous of a successful black man, then it's pretty high school on their part.
Pretty clickish.
Quick timeout, back with more.
Your phone calls and other things right after this.
Okay, we're back, executing assigned host duties flawlessly, Rush Limbaugh, talent on lawn from God to Meculah, California.
This is Lynn.
I'm glad you waited.
Hi.
Hey, Russ.
Hey.
Uh it's ironic that you're taking my call because I had called in just to make a comment that uh your show is already too short, and it gets clogged up with people who call in that are extremely either ignorant or way out of touch.
Like who?
Like the gentleman earlier that called in to say that because these guys were athletes in Durham, they must be guilty.
That's absurd.
Well, was he i i yeah, I I think what he was really trying to say was that the hooligans and just because the rape charge has been dropped doesn't mean that they're nasty guys that did something to this woman.
The reason I take calls like that, you you you call them ignorant.
That is a person that's I don't think even using anything other than a template-oriented bias about it.
And so he fit the bill to give me the chance to explode that myth again.
Uh you know, the uh it's a risky thing to start saying people are ignorant and dumb and stupid.
Uh no, I I know that.
I I find it ironic that you took my call because of that, because here I am one of them.
Uh no.
See, I don't look at it that way.
I look at every caller here in two ways.
I look at it as an opportunity to to to to uh uh build the show to bounce off something a caller says to take it in a direction that I might not on a particular topic or issue.
And the second thing is I look at the opportunity to teach people.
Because after all, I am a great teacher.
And that is true.
And so you um uh I look we get everybody gets that hosts these calls or shows gets complaint about callers.
Uh the biggest complaint I get about callers is why do you even take them?
All they do is slow the show down.
It's slow the pace down.
Here you're up, you ratchet up, you're going, and you go to the hi, Rush.
Milk the cow this morning before I called you a she loves you too.
Uh why do you do that?
Why do you because I invite these people to call.
I think it's fun.
You know, maybe rolling the dice with uh with with every call before you go there, but uh generally uh it it allows a branch out.
And remember, the purpose of a call is to make the host look good, and that's not by virtue of being complimentary.
Uh it's you know I've I can be inspired too.
Uh I can have my memory jogged or uh you know a flashpoint idea sparred by a by a caller comment, so it's fun.
You don't put up calls like what?
What here's Snerdley's taking it personally, what I said.
I that that example um was not specific.
That example was a catch-all.
Uh anyway, here the the the thing is to remember, Lynn, if callers were hosts, then they wouldn't be calling.
Uh Dick in Gardnerville, Nebraska.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Um Frigid Ditto's from uh the state of Nevada from uh Marine uh Oh, I said Nebraska, I'm sorry.
In the state of New Jersey, it was 180 degrees from what it is now, and they had a cure for attention deficit syndrome during school hours.
But I really called uh to talk about prosecutorial uh malfeasance because there is one, and I want you to comment about it, named Fitzgerald.
Now he's gone untouched, unscathed, not a glove laid on him, and we have found out that in the first week he knew that Valerie Plain was not undercover, and he knew where the leak came from, and thereafter he spent all of his time subject subject, you know, the executive branch, particularly the Oval Office, with all kinds of well, literally misleading the nation along with the media about where that leaked.
Yeah, it's a price process crime.
Those are uh the the the original charge, no evidence to support that a crime was committed, so in the investigation, uh you got a guy for perjury, obstruction of justice, uh blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And people wonder why why is this uh the case?
Uh why wh why why does this happen?
For one thing, Fitzgerald, you've got to remember who he is.
Um he's uh he prosecuted uh Sheikh Omar Abdel Rachman in 1995, successfully.
He's the U.S. attorney for Chicago.
Currently going after a number of people there, including what did I say Fitzgerald?
It's Fitzpatrick.
Yeah, no, it's Patrick Fitzgerald.
Your thing is Gerald Fitzpatrick.
So caller was right, Staffer was wrong, it's Patrick Fitzgerald.
At any rate, he's he's trying to put Conrad Black behind bars for some charges I'm not sure, but the media love the guy because he was he was going after the administration.
He's protected uh in terms of public image.
Uh a lot of people are are outraged about this, costing Scooter Libby millions and millions and millions to defend himself.
Trial starts tomorrow, by the way.
And uh the the the there's a you know who one of the government star witnesses is gonna be is Tim Russert.
Tim Russert is a star witness in this case.
He is one of the media people, and there are gonna be a bunch of them called and not crazy about this.
Because you have to testify about some people who have been a confidential source.
But uh I think if I read this right that uh uh Russard is one of the key witnesses uh to uh try to prove that his testimony will prove that uh Scooter Libby had lied.
Uh but you're right, there was the the the original leaker was known.
It was uh it was Richard Armitage, and that there was no crime because she wasn't covert, and yet it went on.
Why did it go on?
That's the real question people want to know.
Why did it go on?
And I mean, I don't uh all I can do is theorize here.
Uh Dick, but my theory is ego.
The theory is that once you are given this great charge of independent counsel and special prosecutor, you have to have something at the end of the day to make it look like all the time you spent was worthwhile.
The worst thing an independent prosecutor, especially in this case, from his standpoint, would have been to say, you know, I looked at this and nothing happened.
Uh if he was gonna do that, he would have had to do it in the first week or two when he knew the facts of the case.
Once this thing dragged out for two years, it's very hard to say, well, you know, I knew two years ago there was really nothing here.
So there had to be something that comes out of it.
Uh I and that's look it, that is just a wild guess.
But that's um that's what I would uh would attach to it.
Um you can you can have a number of these guys, Ronnie Earle, uh, who came up with a political indictment against Tom DeLay just to get him out of the speakership or the leadership position of Republican Party, because the stupid Republicans had a rule saying if any one of them were ever indicted, they would quit.
They would resign.
Democrats don't have such a rule, by the way.
We'll be back.
Sit tight.
All right, got some uh more audio sunbusters squeeze in today.
And we'll do that in due course.
But first, uh staying with the phones of Birmingham, Alabama.
This is Alan.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Uh hello, Rush.
Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
Uh I uh I called uh and and been listening, been on hold for a while and and been listening to your show and think that you've been landing some great body blows against uh Duke and Naiphong in this uh uh lacrosse rape scandal.
And uh my comment is is gonna wind up sounding like I'm quibbling with you because I'm on board with so much of what you said, and I and I didn't want to get sidetracked in that respect because I think that uh NIF is uh gonna get what's coming to him in terms of uh some sort of uh sanction against him.
But I I did want to take issue with your remarks about the the parents of prospective athletes at Duke being concerned about legal fees.
I I really feel like these particular lacrosse students uh uh uh you know who who are stand accused have been caught in a perfect storm of prosecutorial misconduct and also just uh university administration and faculty who run amok with political correctness.
And I and I don't want to confuse those two uh wrongdoings.
That the the legal fees are all about uh uh assistant uh DA NIFON, and university is really not responsible for legal fees that somebody might get tangled up in and get arrested.
Hold it just a second.
The university threw their own customers under the bus.
They threw the students overboard without any evidence whatsoever on the basis of the first allegations.
They fired the coach.
They are civilly liable in this.
They're they're gonna they're gonna suffer more if these families proceed than NIF will.
This whole thing.
Yeah, I am sorry.
I might have been excessive in suggesting that every prospective parent of an athlete that goes to Duke will have to have a little stash of a million bucks to handle legal fees.
Uh trying to be illustrative with that, that I have to tell you something.
What happened here is precisely why the founding fathers wrote our criminal justice system the way that it is, is to make sure this doesn't happen.
When we have corrupt people in law enforcement, and no way to get rid of them or punish them other by their peers doing it in bar proceedings or ethics panels or what have you.
What's to stop this from happening again, unless there is a huge monetary award at some point uh down the line, because this is what liberalism gives us.
Preconceived guilt based on certain templates that involve race, wealth, privilege, higher education, and so forth.
The one good thing about this is that, and this is no solace or comfort to any of the families involved here.
The one great thing about this is that it's opening people's eyes to the kind of thinking and prejudice and bigotry that exists in the faculty and the administration and the student body of most higher education institutions.
Well, I think you've got a good point there.
I think that it's i that that what happened at Duke is is going on all over the place.
Just the question the the the thing that happened here that's unusual is that these boys got, you know, arrested for for serious felonies.
But you have you can go to like I I believe the organization is called Fire Foundation for Individual Rights and Education and go to their website and and they can they can cite just chapter and verse of of cases of of PC bullying and and radical left uh on campus bullying on all kinds of issues.
Yeah.
So you really can't I don't I don't think it's fair, I guess, to single out Duke for th for the.
Okay, wait a second.
Now wait just a second.
I'm not singling him out.
Duke singled itself out.
But my question are you a Duke basketball fan?
Are you afraid that I'm going to make sure that the best basketball players don't go to Duke?
Are you worried that that's going to be the result here?
Are you a Duke fan?
As a matter of fact, yes, Rush.
No, actually, Duke, uh Rush, my wife is a Duke alum, and I am a woman of another.
No, no, no.
I'm I am an al I am an alum of another school, and my foot my uh uh uh athletic loyalties lie with another university.
I so I'm only uh Duke fan by that.
That would be the crimson tide, correct?
That it would that would be correct.
Yeah, but your wife runs a house because you're calling here to make sure they want to make sure, Rush, I want to I want to criticize I want to step in and criticize some things that I saw happening at Duke, and and maybe I'm covering old territory here, but but I I saw some real problems there.
Number one is as as you pointed out, you had faculty members making statements to the media uh at the very very beginning of this that basically took uh these boys' guilt for granted.
And I think that's a good thing.
But why?
Why?
Because of the race of the accuser, because of the poverty of the accuser, or relative poverty, because of the privilege and the athletic status of these so-called rich white elitists from the Northeast.
And I I absolutely agree with with your criticism, and I think that that uh Duke ought to answer for the behavior of those people because and it is and it's not just what it did to the lacrosse players, Rush, but it's you know, any parent, whether your child is a prospective athlete or uh not, and you're looking at where you'd like to send your kids to school, the question you have to ask is what kind of education are you going to get there?
Now, I think it I think Duke is still gonna be on on even after this settles is going to be a great place to get an education, but I think that they need to answer for when they're when they're faculty member go off half country.
You can't believe not after what we've learned about some of the faculty members that railroaded these students, flunked them simply because they were on the team.
Yeah.
I I am Jaded Rush.
I I if I feel like any major university across the country right now is just kind of a a landmine for a student to get into trouble with with uh left-wing bullying.
And you know, so I I think the rush, I think that uh Duke has uh, you know, demonstrated what can happen in any campus.
And um you know, I think that the faculty needs to answer uh or or needs to censure those members of the faculty that went off the way they did and participated in the protest that's gonna happen.
Let me tell you something.
I didn't I don't have no wait.
No, this is true.
I don't I don't have this story in front of me.
Gosh, I wish I could remember who wrote this.
It was uh it's newspaper reporter, columnist or somebody went down there, went to Durham after all of this had happened, after all of the evidence, the DNA showed that these guys were the only people in North Carolina who had not had relations with this woman.
Uh and and all of this, the the the knife-long travesty and so forth.
And she went and she talked to these people you're talking about, some faculty, some people that live in the area, and they they they're im they're they're a little bit embarrassed uh that that it happened and they jumped the gun, but it hasn't changed anything about them.
They're still liberals.
They still believe in these circumstances nine out of ten times that these kind of allegations are true.
And they they really they feel no remorse over the attitudes that they've expressed or the things that they have said.
Only one of them said, Yeah, I think I might have jumped the gun here, but then they're all issuing qualifiers.
The thing about it is, this is what you have to understand.
Uh Alan, this is not going to change the culture of Duke University.
It is not going to change the culture of Durham, North Carolina.
It is not.
And why?
Because these are liberals.
And even when they blow it and are terribly wrong, they aren't.
You're not supposed to examine their results.
Supposed to examine their intentions.
And they feel very proud of their intentions in this case.
The liberals down there do.
They feel very, very proud that they had the right moral view of this.
The evidence not mapping uh m matching up.
Well, that's just one of those things.
No, there's no there's there's no lasting guilt or questioning of their core values or the things they believe in.
They still see racism every time they see black and white.
They still see a, I don't care who it is, a black minor black is a minority and oppressed and may as well still be in slavery, and white people involved are guilty of enslaving and oppression, racism, uh, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, destroying the Indians, destroying the environment, the culture's not gonna change.
The only thing that could lead to a cultural change is a change of people that work at this university.
The only way that's gonna happen is if this university pays through the nose, and some of it extends to some of these faculty members who violated cannons and tenets, uh presumption of innocence and so forth.
I mean, look at the parents spend 40 grand to send their kids these, not the ones that are not on scholarship.
Uh you know, you're you're a Duke basketball fan.
What what do you think would have been the if this had been the basketball team?
I mean, we we can only, you know, hypothesize, but I'll bet you that a whole different way of handling this would have happened, were it the basketball team.
And what if the guys in this case, what if the guys on a lacrosse team were black and the stripper were white?
Do you think the faculty would be dumping on these black students the way they've dumped on these guys?
I can tell you they would not.
The ingredients here fit the world view of the inequality of the racism and the oppression that the faculty and this and the and the administration at Duke University see all over America.
That's how they see America.
This is a microcosm for it.
As far as the basketball team is concerned, go Duke.
Hope you're happy.
Back in just a second.
Thanks for the call.
Okay, audio sound by time.
President Bush last night on 60 Minutes with Scott Pelley.
Uh here Pelley tries to get Bush to apologize to the Iraqis Bush not having any of it.
Do you think you owe the Iraqi people an apology for not doing a better job?
We liberated that country from a tyrant.
I think the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude.
That's the problem.
Here in America, they wonder whether or not there is a gratitude level that's significant enough in Iraq.
Now, a perfect perfect example from the 60 minutes interview, Scott Pelly refers to U.S. Marines as your Marines.
This is Bush's war, your Marines.
They have to distance themselves from it, of course.
Listen to this exchange.
I was on the battlefield in Najaf when Al-Sadr's people killed your United States Marines.
Right.
And we killed them, as you recall.
Is Makad al-Sadr an enemy of the United States?
If he is ordering his people to kill Americans, he is.
Yeah, well, you know, the interesting thing here that CBS leaks all this stuff that Bush admits he made mistakes and Bush did this or that, and of course it was typical CBS.
I'm still mystified why the president would appear on this.
I don't care how you thought he did.
I don't know how many people watched it after CBS put these leaks out that Bush admitted this and said he would sorry and his uh made Iraq worse and all this sort of stuff.
The war at home here is a political war.
Why then go to 60 minutes?
Go anywhere.
Go to the new media.
Use the free media, right op eds.
Use the internet.
Use your grassroots operation out in the neighborhoods.
If the war is worth fighting abroad, which it is, then you gotta fight the effort by the left at home to undermine it, as they did during Vietnam.
Going to 60 minutes is like Nixon going to Cronkite.
I mean, I re I especially after every effort that CBS has made to destroy this man's presidency.
I mean, look at who 60 minutes is promoted.
Joe Wilson, Richard Clark, Bob Woodward, Bill Clinton, Dan Rather tried to destroy Bush before the 2004 election with the forged documents.
These questions that Scott Pelly asked may as well been written by the Democrat National Committee.
I swear.
And you know, I'm gonna tell you something.
This is gonna this gonna make this may make some of you mad.
But President Bush, with his new tone, and with his attempt to replicate what he had done in Texas by putting everybody together in one big happy family, bipartisanship and so forth, has taught a lot of Republicans to join with the Democrats.
I mean, if the president does it, they can do it too.
It's a bad habit when it comes to policy.
But that's what he did with Ted Kennedy writing the education bill, having the Kennedy family up to watch the latest uh Bea Pigs movie with Popcorn Machine of Full Bore, full blast, full pop.
Uh it's it's just it's if he can if Bush can reach out to Kennedy and play nice with this new tone stuff, then he sets the stage for lesser politicians in his party and Congress to do the same thing.
McCain's done it.
McCain's gone out of his way to reach out to Democrats against his own party against his own against his own president.
You know, and look at Schwarzenegger in California.
We always end up joining with the Democrats, the left to advance their agenda.
Does anybody ever remember them joining with us to advance ours?
I don't care what the issue.
Look at the war.
The war is is the is the best example of it.
Um I don't know.
I just I just I don't understand it.
Uh uh what's to be gained by going on 60 minutes.
Here's uh Rick in Troy, New York.
Rick, welcome to the EIB network, sir.
Hi, Rush.
How are you?
I'm fine and dandy, sir.
Good.
I was um I was listening to you today, and I was listening to uh I happened to see Charlie Rose on TV and he had um Peter Sutherland on there.
Yeah, yeah.
And he was uh he was saying that he said, well, he was asking a lot of questions, but then he asked him, how do you uh where's your where do you lean on politics?
He said, Well, I try to keep that private, he says, but I do believe in socialized medicine I was raised in Canada.
And he also said uh I uh I believe in free schools.
Then he asked him about uh what do you think about Abu Ghraib and that?
He said, Well, I find it was uh it was uh outrageous that what we did to him down here.
And I was just wondering your opinion on that.
Would that change your opinion of watching 24?
Because I lost I love 24 myself.
No, and it shouldn't change your opinion either.
No, it's I don't think it would.
No, but no, it shouldn't.
Look it.
Keefer Sutherland may be a lib.
Does he act like one on twenty-four?
Come on here.
If Kiefer Southern was offended by Abu Ghrab and he really cared about all this, he would resign from 24 over to what it script requires him to do, but he doesn't.
He sits there and does it.
Abu Grab is romper room compared to what Kiefer Sutherland does on 24 and has done for five or six years.
Here's the difference about Sutherland.
I don't think he he doesn't ever talk about his politics.
He thinks actors talking about politics are idiots.
And and he he answered Charlie Rose's questions about it, but he doesn't lead with it.
You had to call me to ask if I if they think he's a liberal.
A lot of people do, because he doesn't lead with it.
He's uh it's irrelevant.
It shouldn't.
It shouldn't affect the way you view the program at all.
Because I say if if he were a real activist with this stuff, he'd be out marching against this show after the first script.
Let's see.
Jerry in uh in Noonan, Georgia.
You're next, sir.
Nice to have you on the EIB network.
I have about a minute.
Can you squeeze it in in a minute?
Okay, Megadettoes.
Thank you.
I was just reading about the fact that we have 466,000 soldiers in 144 countries, and our clueless congressmen are talking about what this is gonna do.
To put 20,000 troops in Iraq is gonna be a big deal.
Yes, I know.
They're worried it might work.
Exactly.
You know, I think they can get off politics for a while and take some of these guys out of out of the countries and put them into Iraq from Afghanistan.
Well, they all have their there's a reason that they're where they are.
Um who knows what the troop movement uh protocols are.
I don't pretend to, but what I do know is that the the Democrats and media both are just beside themselves that Bush isn't listening to them.
Uh he's isolating himself now, of course that's what they're saying.
Didn't listen to the Iraq surrender group, not listening to them.
Uh they're just they're just beside themselves that they haven't been able to take him off of his uh policy in Iraq.
Quick timeout here, we'll come back and close it out.
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Well, the militant feminists now say if you're gonna have cheerleaders at boys' sporting events in school, you have to have them at girls' events, too.
The only problem is that girl cheerleaders don't want to cheer at girls' events.
The Title IX crowd is all got their panties in a wad.
Details tomorrow.
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