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Dec. 26, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 26, 2006, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Thank you, and welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program here at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
I am Roger Hedgecock, and filling in on the day after Christmas.
I hope Christmas was a wonderful and blessed day for you and your family.
And I know today is, of course, uh the smart shoppers day.
People are out where private enterprise is carrying on a jihad against inflation, otherwise known as reducing prices.
Some prices up to 70% off.
I don't need to encourage you, I know, because you already know these things, but pretty interesting, uh pretty interesting day.
Government is not reducing its prices.
They're not fighting inflation, but your local private store.
Yes, including Walmart is.
By the way, uh this particular Christmas day was noteworthy in a number of respects.
In the Hedgecock household, it was noteworthy because uh son Chris gave the old man a football.
It wasn't just any ordinary football, it was one signed by most of, nearly all of the uh current players of the San Diego Chargers, the 13 and two San Diego Chargers.
Yes, we are reveling in this, ladies and gentlemen.
The best Charger team since they moved to San Diego in 1961 from Los Angeles, one of the many teams that have fled LA.
Uh this is um this is our year.
And I don't know how far this is gonna go.
None of us do.
We're kind of holding our breath.
We're actually, if you can hear this sound, we're holding our breath here in San Diego.
We love LT, we love rivers.
We love everybody on this team, and it is a remarkable uh NFL experience for us.
Uh we get no respect.
I know you know this, but we get no respect from any of the commentators who are constantly talking about games uh about teams with uh with eight and seven records.
But I don't care uh because uh the uh Chargers continue to uh to win.
But a remarkable Christmas around the world.
Um the peacekeeping troops of the United States military in Partez uh in uh Serbia, a Serban uh in Kosovo, a Serb village in Kosovo.
And there they are with a box full of toys, handing out dolls and cars and watercolors and chests and all the rest of it to uh this uh these poor beleaguered uh Christians in Kosovo, which uh has since we saved Kosovo from the Serbs,
has turned around, of course, and uh destroyed monasteries and churches and the Muslims living there have been very uh very anti-tolerant of the uh Serb Christians who live among them, the peacekeepers trying to keep them apart.
There was Christmas yesterday for those beleaguered folks because of the U.S. troops serving there and not with their own families.
It is uh it was also uh Christmas, of course, uh in Bethlehem.
There is a Bethlehem, it's still there despite the wars, despite the centuries of wars.
I've been there.
It is uh you can go out the gate of one of the famous gates still has bullet marks in it from the uh various wars that have uh uh uh recently uh been there, but a gate built uh many hundreds of years before that, and you walk out and you look across at a at a knoll uh in the valley, and on that knoll is the is the little town of Bethlehem.
It is remarkable because there in the little town of Bethlehem, uh Constantine the Great's um the Roman Emperor's mother built a church over the traditional site of the cave, which is basically what it was, where the uh where the uh Christ child was born.
And this story doesn't s resonate so much when you read it in the Gospels, but when you're there and you see that Bethlehem is built on top of a limestone mound.
Uh, this is a uh pockmarked limestone.
The water comes down through it and over the millennium creates a lot of little caves.
And the uh the shepherds, they're still there, by the way, they're still sheep.
The shepherds um have look used these caves so that when it's really cold, they put all the sheep in the caves and they put a little corral around it so the sheep are come can come outside or go inside, depending on the weather, and then they go out into the pastures in the daytime and so forth.
So you can still see today the shepherds doing exactly what they were doing on that night.
And the exact way this manger concept came into play because there are still mangers there in Bethlehem.
Not a lot of peace, however.
When I was there, we went through a checkpoint.
We were on a uh bus.
We went directly to the church.
All of the shops and windows of all the private homes were steel, you know, steel doors that come down.
And uh they were all down.
There wasn't a window or door that didn't have steel over it when we drove up to this church.
We went down below the uh altar, and there was the uh the where the crusaders had put a star in this cave where the birth took place, as the local tradition had it, and you witnessed all that.
Then you came back up, you got back in the bus, which by the way was parked right next to the door, like six inches from the door.
The butt the bus door opened up as the church door opened in and you walked up onto the bus.
You were taken to then we're gonna go shopping in Bethlehem.
Check this out on a shopping day.
We pull up to this stone facade, no windows, the only one door was had again at the steel.
We pull up next to the steel door with the with the door of the bus opening, and the steel door comes up just enough so we can all scurry into the shop which has no windows.
The steel door goes back down again.
Then we shopped, bought these trinkets and so forth.
They've probably been selling there since the Crusades.
And we get back on the bus.
No, I know now they're made in China, and we drive back to uh our hotel in Jerusalem.
Uh it went on again yesterday, that same thing, because despite the statements of all the Christian leaders, let's talk about uh Benedict the 16th, the Pope, in his balcony overlooking St. Peter's Square, calling for uh dialogue between the Israelis and Palestinians, calling for peace, calling for the spirit of Christ to infuse uh folks here to uh to choose peace.
Not one Imam, not one shaman, not one Abdullah, not well, I mean, whatever the whatever the uh names are spoke up yesterday for peace that I saw.
Did I miss something?
Please, please tell me there was someone representing Islam in whatever form that called upon the world for peace.
Arnold Schwarzenegger could have used a little help on the uh slopes a couple of days ago.
He's uh now facing surgery.
The Terminator broke his leg uh skiing, so please, for the sake of California, the only thing that's keeping us from becoming uh Baja Norte uh here in California is our uh Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.
You know what is is striking me about um I'm still looking at uh charger coverage.
Uh what's striking me about uh and I listen, uh and and New York says why.
Of course we're looking at uh charger coverage because the Chargers are 13 and 2.
Hello?
Uh and your team isn't.
So uh I want to I want to I want to it nothing is guaranteed in life, particularly with our quarterback.
But uh I want to also talk about uh uh I felt, and I'll tell you why in a moment, personally, um about the death of James Brown.
James Brown was uh, you know, the godfather of soul and all that, but you really heard in his music in the 50s and sixties what you would later hear from other artists in the 70s, eighties, nineties, and into today.
Uh where did you think Mick Jagger and Michael Jackson and a whole bunch of other people learned those moves?
Where do you think uh uh a funk and disco and and rap and everything else came from?
Mostly, and there's always in music a lot of borrowing and a lot of heritage and a lot of people uh uh learning from their predecessors, but you know what?
A whole lot of it came from James Brown.
And um I only had like this personal feeling because when I was very young, I was uh uh snuck in because in high school I managed a garage band and we fronted, you know, we were the background group when uh when the local promoters brought in people who didn't have their own band.
Well, James Brown came with his own band, so I was uh snuck into the uh local uh venue here in San Diego to uh to witness James Brown and the famous flames.
I must have been one of them, you know, five or six white people, uh the couple of thousand uh blacks, and and uh and in those days it just wasn't a crossover thing yet.
And uh James Brown and the famous Flames did well the show that you can uh today on one of the greatest live albums, one of the first live albums uh done was done uh it's called uh the James Brown show live at the Apollo from 1961, the Paul Theater in Harlem.
This is one of the great albums of all time.
The theme from it is uh uh Night Train is uh my theme song in the local show.
I don't think anybody in the local show even knows that anymore, but uh some people do.
But but uh we took it from that live album, uh live at the uh Apollo Theater, but on that day it might have as well have been Apollo Theater for this very young Roger Hedgecock to witness uh James Brown and the famous flames in person.
Please, please, please try me.
All the rest of that from the 50s uh is alive in my brain.
And yesterday, despite you know, all of the I mean, James Brown, how did he even survive?
Um uh, you know, the family structure and in his aunt's brothel learning the f guitar and from his dad and all of the stuff that we grew up in, and he was in the juvenile detention facility in and out, and you know, the four wives and the guns and the beat and the drugs and the beating.
How did he even how did he even survive?
Much less become uh in his creativity, one of the great figures of American music.
It is a wonderful and remarkable personal story, full of heartbreak, full of incredible overcoming, and full of incredible creativity and energy, which uh the hardest working man in show business, as he liked to say of himself, was entirely that until very recent years.
Three hundred days a year.
He was out on the road still uh doing those shows, still showing that energy.
But I saw him in those days when he had the cape and he went out and came back and dropped to his knees and did all that crazy stuff that later on a lot of other people would uh would imitate, but he was the first and um a remarkable guy, James Brown.
So uh we celebrate a lot today.
I want to talk about what did not happen in 2006 when we come back.
Your calls at 1800-282-2882.
Roger Hedgecock in for Rush Limbaugh back with that call right after this.
Roger Hedgecock in for Rush Limbaugh today on the day after Christmas, 1800-282-2882.
Listen to that horn section.
Little James Brown, I mean, before Stacks Volt, okay.
Yeah.
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Now look, 2000.
I'll get to the calls in just a minute.
I got to get this into the mix first.
I want you to understand be in the news, it's not so much what does happen.
We talk about that.
It's what does not happen.
That's equally, if not more, important.
What does not happen, and particularly what does not happen when it is predicted to happen by those people who have a political agenda in the prediction.
Now you'll know what I mean when I say oil did not get to a hundred dollars a barrel.
Remember all the folks who told you it would, because George Bush is president.
Uh General Motors did not file for bankruptcy.
9,000 hedge funds couldn't do enough dumb things to bring down the financial system.
You remember all these discussions from 2006.
Oh, oh, and and there was no bird flu pandemic either.
No devastating Atlantic hurricane.
Remember the hurricane season was supposed to be worse than ever.
Uh Al Gore told us so.
I saw the slideshow.
I was prepared.
I had a basement.
We don't have basemans in San Diego.
I had a basement.
This is the kind of thing that we were told in 2006.
No Federal Reserve interest rate hikes in the second half of the year either.
And a record, a record in the in the uh in the Dow Jones.
And one after the other.
What is the market?
What is the free market telling you that the uh drive-by media is not?
Hope.
Better times coming, tranquility.
You look at the free market indication of what's going on, more people around the globe achieving a level and standard of living, if they're following the free market, that those folks, unfortunately, those human beings in the uh well, you know, you know them, uh places like North Korea and Cuba and other places, uh Zimbabwe, are simply not getting, and they're not getting it because they're not in freer markets.
So if you look at uh what's going on in the real world, and I always look at the markets to tell me uh what's going on?
And I appreciate uh this came out of uh the LA Times a couple of weeks ago, and that's why I thought I gave it even more credibility, because here's the drive-by media, and that's the LA Times saying, oops, well, 2006 was a whole lot better than we thought.
And of course they're going to say that after the election.
Not one word of that before the election.
So there you are.
Um plenty of uh good news that I guess is finally coming out.
Let's take a call.
Here's Sophia in Perry Hall, Maryland.
Hi, welcome to the Rush Show.
Good morning.
I am in mourning over the death of James Brown.
I saw him at a concert in May, and he rocked the house for two hours.
73 years old.
I I I couldn't believe it.
Could not believe it.
He knew every note his backup band was doing.
He escorted the backup singers on the stage and off the stage.
He was it was just an unbelievable night that I will never forget, and I'm just so grateful I had that opportunity to see him in person.
Well, good for you, Sophia.
Good for you.
I appreciate the call.
That that's a that's an interesting thing what music does for you, what it can do for when you are inspired.
I'm inspired by his story.
Tough on women, four wives, I mean all kinds of uh arrests for this, that, and the other, you know, beating them up, whatever, the drugs, the guns, all the rest of it, uh, you know, whatever.
But the truth is that uh, you know, while all that has to be taken into account, overcoming all of that, overcoming all of that in a way that Michael Jackson hasn't, is what I I look to.
Somebody who really knew that life was going to be tough.
Life was going to be hard.
Life was going to be overcome only by hard work and by employing his uh his uh his talent as best he could.
Uh I tell you what, regardless of all of the racial issues that might be involved in there somewhere.
This is a human story that I think inspires James Brown, uh dead at 73.
All right, let's take a call from Bob in San Diego.
Well, this is a nice call.
Hello, Bob.
Hello, Roger.
Uh, it's a pleasure.
I'm both a Roger and a Rush fan, so I get uh both best of both worlds.
Thank you.
Uh I'd like to uh point out something that didn't happen in uh 07 is that uh I don't believe the Democrats uh and the liberal uh media took as much credit as they really should.
After all, they spent a lot of time uh smearing the mission and our uh defense secretary and our president, and I don't think Zahrahiri was fair to him.
I think they uh should toot their own horn and stand up and take credit for uh uh empowering our enemies and uh discouraging those in Iraq that might support our mission.
So they need to stand up for what they've done.
Take credit where credit is due, Bob.
Thanks for the call.
Yeah, there's been plenty of mistakes, I suppose you can point out made by the Bush administration.
But is there any doubt in anybody's mind, even with understanding that part of it, that this war has been prolonged, that more Americans have died because in effect the Democrats took the side of our enemies.
I don't know how else to say that.
1-800-282-2882.
There is a new front, by the way, in the war, uh, this war on terror, this war of radical Islam against the rest of the world.
There's a new front, and it's an old front to us.
It's Somalia, where Ethiopian troops, again, I guess largely Christian uh version, uh Ethiopian version anyway, have uh come across to support the government of Somalia against the Islamist uh guerrillas who are trying to take over that country to use it again.
You know, they lost Afghanistan, uh now they're uh trying to get Somalia back as a training ground.
And Islamic fighters were in uh tactical retreat Tuesday after the uh Ethiopian jets attacked the airports around Mogadishu.
So Mogadishu back in the news, if you care to uh get into uh get into that.
So um I and here's another story from the Christmas season that really kind of grabbed me.
And I can do I have time to do this.
Let's see, we're gonna get out at uh we only have about a minute, so let me let me do this.
Uh let me do this when we come back about uh Dr. Michael DeBaki and uh the heart uh guy and what happened to him in this last year.
Good news out of Iraq finally, this should have happened a couple of years ago, one of the mistakes George Bush made.
Saddam Hussein, uh the Iraqi appeals court has upheld his death sentence, and that means, according to Iraq law, that uh the execution must follow that final decision within thirty days.
Boy, I wish we had that kind of rule here in California.
I mean, we have a 27-year rule.
After your final appeal, you must be executed within twenty-seven years.
Uh yeah, apparently it's thirty days in Iraq.
And um the Iraqi court which sentenced Saddam to hang by the neck until dead for the nineteen eighty-two killings of a hundred and forty-eight people in a single Shiite town.
Wow.
Um even for Saddam, it was pretty extreme.
So they picked that out of the many gross atrocities of the Saddam brutal dictatorship and picked that one.
It's like Al Capone getting uh, you know, uh uh tried on IRS charges, and so Saddam has been found guilty.
The Iraq High Court has confirmed it.
He must be hung within thirty days.
Good news to everybody in Iraq.
I'm Roger Hitchcock with more good news coming back in your call too after this.
Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Roger Hedgecock filling in for rush today, one eight hundred two eight two-282 on this day after Christmas.
And Debbie in Estancia, New Mexico.
Go ahead, Debbie.
Welcome to the Rush Show.
Whatever?
What was that comment about um when you said James Brown had problems with his wives and they had to put up with a lot and he beat some of them up?
Whatever.
Well, I didn't want to get uh Debbie, the word was uh a word I used in that context to say I didn't want to get into all of the gory details except to note that he did have that problem.
Yeah, but uh that I mean that maybe he kept uh kept them barefoot and pregnant and they were happy with all that.
You know, I I got a real problem with with uh just fluffing it off in such a casual manner.
I'm a domestic violence survivor, and you know, women in that situation are basically disenfranchised.
If they go to the emergency room and they're United States citizen, they have a big bill to pay, but if they're an illegal alien, uh George Bush signed something last year where the emergency room will pay for uh the government will pay for it.
Um, you know, this whatever you push the wrong button with that word.
I mean, whatever.
Thanks, Debbie for the call.
I appreciate it.
1-800-282-2882.
No, no, no.
You know, I I didn't gloss over it.
It should be uh noted that in 1994 and 2004, James Brown's wives, third and fourth wives, by the way, uh filed assault charges against him, which were later dropped.
I I didn't want to, you know, in a sense, put out uh yeah, whatever.
Jesse in Poughkeepsie, New York.
Jesse, welcome to the Rush Show.
Hi there.
Yeah, hi.
Um you mentioned in the beginning about uh our soldiers still being in Kosovo and uh how the uh Christians are now um getting the worst of it here right there in Europe.
And uh it brings me back to uh when Slick Willie was president and um s and uh actually came to the rescue of who are really our enemies, and the Serbs are really our friends.
And he and that goes even back to World War II.
Why don't we just say we're getting out, tell the Serbs, take back control of your country, give them back because Kosovo is part of Serbia, all right?
And um understand that Islam basically today, maybe not all of Islam, but m much of it is our enemy, and we've got to stick with our Christian and European friends.
And that's plain and simple.
I mean, did to stop you know, stop pretending this is a religion of peace.
And this is unfortunately I know you like the guy, but I think George Bush is probably one of the worst presidents we ever had.
I mean, he's probably right up there with Slick Willie and Jimmy Carter and LBJ.
Okay, we haven't had a really good president since Reagan.
And I'm telling you, this we should not be in that place.
We should have been out of there long ago, and it should be back in the hands of the uh of our friends to Serb uh who should be our friends to Serbs.
Well, who should be, but have their own uh had their own problems there.
It's a peacekeeping deal.
Uh I don't pretend to be an expert about it.
Uh, but it's uh you know, it's uh Jesse, it's uh it's a tough issue over there.
We do still have peacekeepers over there, and I'd like to see him come home as well.
Uh you know, the um the Kosovo uh uh Muslims are a relic of the Turkish Empire.
I know what they are.
And uh they're there.
Uh they are they were uh they were burned out by the Serbs and they've been doing it to each other for uh you know, hundreds of years.
Yeah, but the case.
Now we're trying to keep the peace.
Well, you know, you keep saying that, but I don't know.
Was Milosevic our friend?
Uh more than uh let me tell you something.
He was more a friend than the uh the Muslim enemy in the in Saudi Arabia, okay.
Well, we're not talking about Saudi Arabia.
We're talking about Kosovo.
I'll be honest with you.
But we but we're talking about the same enemy.
I'll be honest with you, Saddam Hussein was not the threat you make him out to be.
He was a he was not a uh Muslim fanatic.
As a matter of fact, he had Christians in his cabinet, okay, and one of the reasons we got the problem we've got now is we went after the wrong uh enemy, the enemy.
Thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
So there we go.
Saddam was not such a bad guy, and uh Milosevic was a good guy.
Man, where do people come up with this stuff on the day after Christmas?
Here's what I want to come up with on the day after Christmas.
Wonderful doctor Michael uh Debaki.
The bakey tobacque.
Um 98, a renowned heart surgeon who many, many years ago, back in the 1950s, uh did the first of the amazing heart surgeries that I guess we now take for granted, for instance, grafting uh to uh he did heart bypass uh stuff, he did grafting stuff to uh to uh enhance the heart to protect people from heart attacks, to keep people from dying of heart attacks.
And last year, a year about a year ago, uh he uh self-diagnosed that uh he was in fact having a type two dissecting aortic aneurysm.
That's a classification system, by the way, of diagnosis that he himself had devised 30, 40 years ago.
He went in for surgery when the doctors did the surgery he taught 4050 years ago.
They said he would never live because of his age.
He did.
Saved by his own surgery, saved by his own medicine.
What goes around comes around.
In the case of those people who do good and good things, good things come back.
So Dr. Debaki is now how old is he in this uh New York Times uh article, ninety-eight.
And uh still going strong.
God bless him.
Um let's go to uh Mark in New York City, more on Kosovo, good grief.
Mark, welcome.
Yeah, thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
Sorry, I'm a little nervous, but thank you for taking my call.
No problem, go ahead.
I just have a little disagreement on Kosovo issue.
I happen to be an Albanian, also Christian, and I grew up in Kosovo.
I'm an Albanian American, by the way.
And Albanians are the most pro-American people in Europe, by the way, in case you didn't know.
Number one, and number two, Milosevic was not a good guy, and America did not support America did not support the wrong friend.
Albanians are friends.
If you forget, maybe a lot of people forgot 1999 and 18 Edmund Clinton, number one number uh and also the Christmas the Albanians also supported the church they they say that there was not one single Orthodox church burned or bombed in Kosovo.
And uh that's what I want to say.
And the Milosovic now very soon is gonna be independence for Kosovo, and rightly so, and we should be proud as an American.
I'm proud that America went and helped Muslims in Kosovo, which are major but they are Christmas there, by the way.
Don't forget that.
And also Muslims in Bosnia, so we should take that as a proud, proud honor, not to say we supported the n the wrong wrong people.
We did not support Miloševic is not was not our friend.
He burned the whole Yugoslavia.
You I mean, anybody who knows who has any brain knows that Milosovic was enemy of everybody, and he wants to hide behind Christ.
Right.
All right.
Mark, thank you for the call.
You know, as an American, you could not be faulted for wondering how did we get into every little feud everywhere in the world?
Why is it our business that the Kosovoians, the uh uh the Serbians, and whoever are fighting each other?
They've been doing that for hundreds of years.
Why is that our problem?
I think you know, I think you could be uh justified in asking that question.
Is there no ethnic rivalry, feud, war, civil or otherwise, that we're unwilling to get into?
Sure, it's terrible when people uh slaughter each other.
Is it always our problem?
1800-282-2882, Roger Hitchcock filling in for uh Rush.
Because these things come home.
The problem and John McCain, who was here in San Diego uh surreptitiously earlier in the month to see his son uh Jimmy uh graduate here in a military context, uh which I don't need to get into any detail about.
Um and to s and and and whose uh son Jimmy uh may in fact be uh you know in the line of fire.
May in fact be one of those folks if McCain's advice is taken to surge in Iraq to send more troops to Iraq, it may include his son.
Um this uh at this moment, struggling as we are with Iraq, I don't think it's out of the question to ask.
As John McCain said, we can't afford to lose in Iraq because unlike Vietnam when we lost, we came home, Vietnam did not follow us home.
This conflict will follow us home.
already has.
And that's why the CBS News story, by the way, where the FBI was criticized by the House International Relations Investigative Subcommittee, two-year study on the whole bombing of Oklahoma Um in the Murrah building there uh that um the FBI did not follow up.
Did not follow up with others involved.
You know this story because it's been relentlessly pursued, mostly on talk radio and in other places, ignored by the uh drive by media, it's interesting that CBS News is doing this, that they're finally saying, you know, there were there were other people involved.
Yes, there were.
Islamic terrorists for one.
Here's Stan in Arsley, New York.
Hi, Stan, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi, Roger.
Uh I just wanted to talk about this democratic uh these these uh these I don't know what to call them, the drive-by media and all those guys.
For years, they've been banging away at the Republicans and saying that uh the people, the poor people, the lower class, the middle class just didn't get a fair shake, the the upper class has all the money, all the wealthy people, and the stock market only does good for them, the wealthy people.
However, how about all the millions, millions of people who have IRAs and 401ks who are little guys, and that money's invested in the market, and when that market goes up, these guys are doing great.
I don't know.
Pardon?
There's no question.
There's no question about it.
Uh this wealth has been spreading and is spreading and is spreading.
People who were uh, you know, lower middle class or middle middle class, and I know I get all these uh union uh member callers from the Rust Belt saying, Oh, my standard of living is falling, jobs are being outsourcing, we're going to hell in a handbasket.
Uh the stock market is saying no such thing.
Jobs are being created like crazy.
Uh the average wages are going up, the average wealth is going up uh in the United States and around the world for that matter, uh in all those countries that accept freer markets as the way to go.
Now it's not going up in Cuba, it's not going up in Zimbabwe, it's not going up in North Korea, but you know what?
That's their problem and not ours, and I appreciate the call.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, in for rush, back after this.
Roger Hedgecock in for Rush Limbaugh today on the day after Christmas, Rush with the day off.
Uh 1-800-282-2882, taking your calls, and here's uh Jermaine in Tallahassee, Florida.
Hi, Jermaine, welcome to the Rush Show.
Hey, how are you doing today?
Good.
Yeah, I just wanted to make the comment.
Uh I heard heard you earlier asked the question um is it our obligation to be going all over the world and uh basically defending people.
And I have to put the question, you know, put put pose the question another way.
You know, we see church members all over in this country uh traveling to other nations and other third world countries and on the excuse me and calling it a mission, and they basically are converting people to Christianity in exchange for food, but then once these people are converted and we have our foot in these countries in these countries uh uh whole theme, we run out any time they have a problem.
And I want to know how can we go on missions into these countries bringing Christ for food, but we can't go on missions to save these people from Muslims who have came down and attacked.
I mean, what's going on in Africa and I think it's called Defar car is ridiculous.
You know, it's been going on for you for over a year now.
You know, we want to talk about, you know, the media, you know, we don't hear about anything that goes on in these African countries at all.
You know, the there was a story the other day about uh Libya and doctors and nurses injecting AIDS in the kids.
These people have been convicted from Hungary and Palestine, and we don't hear about it.
So what I'm asking is is why is it okay for us as a country to go and convert people into Christianity, but we can't go and help people out in time of times of need.
Well, there are two separate things.
First of all, Jermaine, when you're talking about uh spreading the gospel, you're talking about something that is personal, that is religious, that has nothing to do with politics.
Possibly.
Uh it's a saving of souls.
Possibly.
Uh when you're talking about politics, though, and drawing the comparison that if we're going to to be involved in saving souls uh to to converting to Christianity on a private level, what about a public policy with our government of saving people?
And you know we've been in this business for quite a long time.
Are we doing it everywhere?
No, and I and I and I gotta tell you, if we started doing it everywhere in Africa, there's a civil war in the Congo.
There are uh there are um Muslim uh uh there's a Muslim president in Nigeria and uh another one coming, and the Muslims are doing their best to exterminate the Christians in Nigeria.
You're having seeing the same thing, and you mentioned Darfur in uh the uh Sudan.
The same thing is going on between Ethiopia and Somalia.
We could start getting in a half dozen more wars if you really want.
Do you really want?
No, that's that wasn't my point.
My point is is I think you asked the question, when does it make it all right?
I think it makes it all right when it's okay for us to send our citizens to these other places.
These people are not asking for Americans to come in and teach them Christianity, is what I'm saying.
And I don't have a problem with that, but my point is is But that's not that's not being done by the government, that's being done by individual private citizen churches.
Who also have political views and political agendas and everything else.
We we we know that.
We know we already we we we we're clear on that.
But what I'm saying is is Well, how clear are we?
Because I don't know, the the Mormons send missionaries, the Methodists send send missionaries, the Catholics send missionaries.
And they have large voting congregations.
The Pentagostal Pentecostal send missionaries, you think they all have the same agenda?
I think they I I I what is the agenda?
Is because it's definitely not to help the people.
Sure, no, no, no, sure it is, Germain.
The Catholic Church let me tell you let me tell you the one.
Let me tell you about the one that I know about.
Okay.
Okay, go ahead.
The Catholic Church spends several billion dollars a year helping people physically with uh the basics, you know, food, clothing, shelter, uh, in addition to the mission to convert, the mission to bring the word of Christ to these folks uh wherever, you know, and they're all over the world.
Right.
So I I don't know, that's wrong, that's bad.
What are you trying to say?
What I'm trying to say is is if it's okay for us to go over there, because you're I guess you're looking at it differently than I'm looking at it.
I've I've I've been out this country as well.
And I've I I've I've I've lived in other countries, and what I've seen is the missions come and the missions go once the agenda is done.
I don't see these people coming in really making any huge differences in these communities.
I I don't mean any disrespect towards anybody who gets up off their behind and travels across the world to do what they think is right.
No, I see.
Where do we stop helping these people?
What I'm saying is is if we're being taught over here that we're Christians and these are our Christian brothers, why is it that Africans are not our Christian brothers?
They're good enough to go they're good enough to go over there on missions, but that we're not we don't respect them enough as a people to to go over there and help them out when they you know when they when when serious issues arise.
Now, do you mean by by serious issues, do you mean we ought to put American troops in to protect the people of Darfur against their government in Sudan?
If we are if we are anywhere else in this world, yes, sir.
If we've gone over there and we've taught these people that they're our brothers and you know, you you can always count on us.
Yes, sir.
If we're anywhere else in the world, I do think we need to be in Africa where kids and babies are being slaughtered left and right.
Yes, sir.
All right, Germain, thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
I'm Roger Hedgecock in for Rush.
Short break, back with more after this.
In the next hour, I want to introduce you to uh John Burlough, Eco Freaks is his book.
We'll get to that.
Apparently the four-day celebration.
Four days of partying, a hundred hours of champagne drinking, as Speaker Nancy Pelosi and The Democrats take over the House of Representatives, and you can join in all at cost.
I have the invitation right in front of me here from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
Celebration, a special house band, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzman, Bob Weir, if you remember those names from The Grateful Dead.
A lot of people uh there.
Uh, Richard Gere is going to make a special appearance.
I wonder how special it'll be.
It'll be $1,000 per ticket.
Wonder how many working families the Democrats purport to represent will be there for the $1,000 per seat.
Four-day celebration.
This is only one of the parties.
I'm Roger Hedgecock with much more coming up.
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