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Dec. 21, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 21, 2006, Thursday, Hour #2
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What is this?
Texas teacher assaulted boys with help of her husband.
Texas teacher is and yet I have this story here.
I put a second.
Yeah, yeah, this is from Maryland.
This is not Texas anyway.
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And the email address rush at EIBNet.com, a kindergarten student was accused earlier this month of sexually harassing a classmate at Lincolnshire Elementary School.
An accusation that'll remain on his record until he moves to middle school.
Now where did this other thing where was it?
The four-year-old hugged a teacher and a tea or a teacher's aid was I forget what state that was, and then the teacher, I think it was Oklahoma, Texas.
Texas.
Um a four-year-old hugging a teacher's aide freshly out of college, of course, and a newly minted feminazi, and accuses a four-year-old of sexually harassing her.
Now her the kids' parents are not backing down on this.
I don't know what the current status of the story is.
But look at all these predator teachers that we have uh had in the last number of years that we've heard about.
Uh now a four-year-old boy accused of being a predator, and here in Maryland, a kindergarten student accused earlier this month of sexually harassing a classmate at Lincolnshire Elementary School.
Washington County Public School spokeswoman Carol Moen said the definition of sexual harassment used by the scrubal system is quote, unwelcome sexual advances, request for sexual favors, and or other inappropriate verbal, written, or physical conduct of a sexual nature directed toward others.
Carol Moen said that definition comes from the Maryland State Department of Education.
We are talking about a five-year-old.
According to a school document uh provided by the boy's father, the five-year-old girl pinched a girl's buttocks on December 8th in a hallway at the school south of Hagerstown.
Charles Valance, the boy's father, said he was unable to explain to his son what he had done.
He doesn't know anything about sex, Valence said there's no way to explain what he's been written up for.
He knows it's playing around.
He doesn't know it as anything sexual at all.
The incident was described as sexual harassment on the school form.
The uh the principal of this school, Darlene Teach, interesting name for a principal of a school.
Uh and Carol Mohan said they were unable to discuss the incident involving the Lincolnshire student.
Oh, here we go.
School administrators at a Texas school in November suspended a four-year-old student for inappropriately touching a teacher's aid after the pre-kindergarten student hugged the woman.
Now, during the 2005 and 2006 school year, 28 kindergarten students in Maryland were suspended for sex offenses.
Whoa.
Let me read that again.
During the 2005-06 school year, 28 kindergarten students in Maryland were suspended for sex offenses, including sexual assault, sexual harassment, and sexual activity according to state data.
Fifteen of those suspensions were for sexual harassment.
During the 2005-6 school year, one Washington County pre-kindergarten student was suspended from school, and twelve of the county's kindergartners were suspended for various offenses.
So you got another little boy here being told that he is a pervert and a predator, and all he was just being was a little boy.
You know, I remember you know, I can't tell the story.
If I tell this story, it's gonna show up.
It'll be in the Nexus database, it'll be uh it'll be in the news.
I didn't harass anybody.
This is this is the point.
This is uh first grade.
Oh I'm I'm not uh then snuggle with anybody.
No, wasn't a teacher, and it wouldn't no, no, no, no, no, no.
I just uh in the first grade, what am I, six?
What are you, six or seven years old?
No, I wasn't five years old.
I was I was one of the oldest kids in my class on birthdays in January.
Um In some cases, I was like 11 months older uh than the uh kids in my class.
That's why I hung around mostly with the class ahead of me.
But anyway, it's a I I remember the girl sitting in front of me had pigtails and uh pulled on one of them once.
And uh sh raised her hand and so forth, but nobody accused me of sexual harassment.
It wasn't even on the radar.
That was that was just I will pay for admitting this.
You know, I don't care about the statute of limitations.
I mean there's no statute of limitations on the drive-by media.
Uh no, nobody filed suit.
The little girl didn't tell her parents, a teacher just said, you stop that.
I'm trying to conduct class here.
You do that one more time, you gotta go to the corner.
It was it was dealt that way.
I mean, it was this is absurd.
Trying to make these little kids think they're perverts and predators.
Um Yeah, and that's that's how that's th this is exactly how these uh uh the feminists this is when we talk about the feminization to culture on this program, it's this kind of thing that uh that I am referring to.
Now, normally, ladies and gentlemen, we wouldn't talk about the things like this, but this is too good to ignore.
The feud going on between uh Rosie O'Donnell and Donald Trump over Trump's uh second chance for Tara Connor, uh Miss USA.
Here is here's this is what got it all started.
This is Wednesday on The View, and this is what Rosie said about Trump.
He enjoys me on a multitude of level.
He's the moral authority.
Left the first wife had an affair, left the second wife had an affair, had kids both times, but he's the moral compass for 20-year-olds in America.
Donald sit and spin, my friend.
I don't enjoy him.
He had inherited a lot of money.
Wait a minute.
And he's been bankrupt so many times where he didn't have to pay.
He didn't pay all the people here.
This is gonna be good.
He's gonna sue me, but he'll be bankrupt by that time, so I won't have to worry.
But uh I don't know.
I just think that this man is like sort of one of those uh, you know, snake oil salesmen in in Little House on the Prairie.
All right, you can say a lot of things that you want to say about Donald Trump, but if you say he went bankrupt a number of times, or that he inherited his money, or that uh he's a snake oil.
If you if you if you take aim at Trump's reputation and image, he will come at he does I don't care who you are, he will come back at you.
And last night on uh one of these entertainment shows, they're all a dime a dozen.
Uh we have a montage here of Trump responding to Rosie O'Donnell.
Well, Rosie O'Donnell's disgusting.
I mean, both inside and out.
You take a look at her, she's a slob, she talks like uh like a truck driver, she doesn't have her facts, she'll say anything that comes to her mind.
And you know, her show failed when it was a talk show, she failed on that.
The ratings went very, very low and very bad, and she got essentially thrown off television.
Her magazine was a total catastrophe.
I never filed bankruptcy.
I never went bankrupt, but she said I went bankrupt.
So probably I'll sue her because it would be fun.
I'd like to take some money out of her fat ass pockets.
Then last night on the entertainment shows again.
Here's more of Trump.
Well, Rosie is a loser.
Rosie's been a loser for a long time.
Her magazine failed.
She got sued.
She folded up like a tent.
It was too bad.
Rosie is somebody out of control who really just doesn't have it.
And she ought to be careful because I'll send one of my friends to pick up a girlfriend, and I think it would be very easy.
He said he's very and then he went on and intimated that if Rosie were honest, she would love to spend some time with Ms. USA.
Uh he said that this morning on Fox.
So Rosie responded on the view uh this morning.
Look who's here today, Kelly.
I was afraid to leave her home in case somebody with a comb over came and stole it from me.
So um yeah, she's here now.
So um who do you like in this, folks?
Uh who do you like in this?
I I'm I love Trump in this one.
I just absolutely love Trump.
We'll be back And continue with broadcast excellence.
Your phone calls after this.
I'll send somebody over to steal her girlfriend.
I'm sure it wouldn't be hard.
Greetings and welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
We are here, Rush Limbaugh.
Meeting and surpassing all audience expectations on a daily basis.
All right, to the phones to Smithtown, Long Island.
This is Marlene, and I'm glad you waited.
Hello.
Hi, Russ, it's Marlene.
Um I wanted to get your spin on the Rosie O'Donnell situation.
I'm wondering if this is a whole big publicity stunt on her behalf.
Well, you can never rule.
I mean, everybody in media does things for uh PR and spin.
I don't.
Uh I've made a point not to, but everybody.
Trump does, Rosie does.
I mean, everybody that Trump even said today he the only thing he regrets about this is that he's calling attention to this stupid show, The View, which he called the stupid show.
Uh huh.
He said, I know I'm doing this, but the show is gonna sink.
It's so bad with Rosie on it.
She's destroyed the show, and it won't take long, no matter how much we build it up.
This show is finished.
I can't believe Barbara Walters would purposely wreck her own show with the truck driver broad that she's brought in there to host the blah blah.
So he knows that he's generating publicity for her.
Right, right.
Well, you think it's like a publicity conspiracy?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's it's a way of life for people in the media.
The the real interesting to me is as Rosie continues to be the focus of the show.
What's gonna happen to the uh I mean, there's other women on this show.
You can understand what the view is.
You've got you've got uh Elizabeth Hasselbeck, who I don't think not a journalist.
Well wait a minute.
Who is uh what about a journalist?
She came from Survivor.
She she was on the Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Her husband is a backup quarterback for the New York Giants.
Okay.
Uh Tim Hasselbeck, who's the brother of Matt Hasselbeck, the uh quarterback of the uh Seattle Seahawks.
They're both the sons of Don Hasselbeck, uh former tight end for the New England Patriots.
They live in Boston.
Uh but but she's she's a lone conservative.
You get Joy Behar, who is, you know, who's no queen.
I mean, you uh you and then you've got whoever the guest host is when Barbara Walters isn't there.
But my point is, with Rosie Hogging, no pun intended, uh the all of the uh uh PR and the and the and the attention of this thing, these other babes in the show might end up getting a little envious and resentful of that.
Well, what what bothers me is Miss USA, you know, she she deserves another chance.
We all make mistakes.
And for Rosie O'Donnell to come on top of Donald Trump and say, you know, you you're a snake oil salesman.
I mean, this this girl deserves another chance.
You know, she's not a politician, she's not running the network.
Yeah, but that's you know, I I th that's not even what this is about anymore.
What Rosie got this started because she started insulting Trump, saying, Who are you to be talking about who deserves second chances?
Um look at you.
You're you're no moral arbiter.
This, in a way, you know, this is this is kind of interesting.
In the past couple of days in this program, we've been talking about the passive American society, which is unwilling to say that anything anybody does is wrong, especially if they're sorry about it, or if they have a really good excuse, because we are all we've all been told for years now, part of political correctness to focus on the imperfections of people because everybody has them.
Nobody's perfect, and therefore nobody is allowed to pass judgment on others.
And it has been liberals like Rosie O'Donnell who have been responsible for this kind of attitude.
Uh and it's led to uh, you know, a blurring of the lines, right and wrong, good and bad, good and evil, uh, no white and black anymore.
It's a whole bunch of nuanced gray out there.
And since everybody's a sinner and everybody is imperfect, then uh nobody can pass judgment on anybody.
If you haven't been in the military, you can't talk about a war in Iraq.
You had a chance to serve and you didn't go, you have to shut up.
Uh and uh, you know, a woman who what does she do?
Uh boarded her mother, I don't know what the daughter or whatever.
Until you've been in my shoes, you can't comment on what I did.
So there's been this move that was in London.
So there's been this this building movement that nobody is allowed to pass judgment on anybody else.
And Trump, by the way, executed that flawlessly.
When I talked with Dara, I discovered a good person, troubled, very troubled, but good person.
And Tara.
Whatever.
So he gave her second chance.
What's being missed here?
It's his company.
It's his the Miss USA pageant is his business.
And if he wants to give anybody a second chance in it, he can.
He just went on did it public because Miss USA is public and so forth.
Rosie not being a good liberal on this one.
Rosie came out and said, who are you to be passing moral judgment?
Why you're flawed.
Who are you to be talking about giving second chances?
If Rosie were being a true liberal, she should have loved this babe getting a second chance, because all she did was act human.
We all make mistakes.
You said it yourself, Marlene, when we went to the phone call with you.
So I think, and I'm not trying to make too much of this, because back to your original point.
It's one of the things that frankly kind of bothers me.
I got to get a little inside baseball on you here, but the lack of substance and genuineness among uh all kinds of media people from Hollywood actors down to uh reporters, uh uh TV and radio talk show hosts.
You would not believe, folks, the number of people whose lives are lived according to what might be said about them or what could be said about them.
Uh you would not you would not believe the relationships that people forge just so as to create a positive media image.
You'd be surprised.
I guess what I'm saying is there's so much phoniness out there that gets passed off as genuine.
Uh I could I could give you, I'm not gonna name any names here, but I could give you two or three radio shows, for example, have literally no audience to speak of.
I mean, they are quote unquote national shows, and they may be in 30 markets, and yet they're touted as the most important and relevant and big-time radio shows out there, and it's all because it has been spun that way by the guests who appear on these shows.
Uh and you know, I speaking for myself, when I moved to New York in 1988, I had a goal.
I wanted to be the most listened-to guy on the radio.
Really, I didn't want it said that I was, I wanted it to be.
And I because I believe that uh, you know, if you're in radio, the you you you have to connect with the audience.
The audience, well, I'm I'm I'm not trying to impress other media people.
I'm not doing this for them so that they'll say it's a great show.
I'm trying to do a great show so that you will listen to it forever and ever and ever and never go away.
And you'll listen to it in such large numbers that I will be able to charge confiscatory advertising rates.
My advertisers.
And all of that has happened.
Actually, our fees and rates are very reasonable.
But the the uh the amount of phoniness and the amount of activity that is that is that is engaged in to create an image that is not based on substance is profound.
So when you ask me, is this a PR conspiracy?
I don't think Rosie and the Donald got together and say, hey, let's let's put on this act and uh have the because Trump is sensitive as hell when you attack his reputation and his uh his image is as a as a top-flight leading businessman, self-made and all that.
He's he's not gonna sit back and let it and let it slide.
Uh in Rosie's case, hell, I don't know.
I just I I think uh most people will are in in love with this publicity.
You know the old phrase, uh doesn't matter what they say as long as they continue to spell the name right.
Uh I forget who said that, Barnum or Bailey.
Uh but uh for the most part uh in this oddball kooky culture that we have today, that's true.
It used to not be, but as much as it is uh as much as it is today, but but so I I don't think it's a giant um conspiracy, but I'll uh Rosie is loving every minute of it, I'll guarantee you that.
Uh I don't know about Barbara Walters.
Uh you know, Barbara Walters has this uh regal, almost royal image as a journalist, and this is her show that's being reduced to a truck stop every morning with a with a with a bunch.
I mean, these women are broads.
I mean, most of them on the show are just they're broads, and it's I think this show is actually the worst thing could have happened to feminists because it's portraying women as nothing but a bunch of chatty, loudmouthed, gossiping you know what's that never shut up and they're not likable.
They're mean as they can be.
Hello, feminism.
Is that right?
Mr. Sturdley informs me we have had five calls in the last few minutes from truckers complaining that uh the Donald and I are disparaging truckers by assuming Rosie O'Donnell is one.
Uh and that they expect better they have a point.
They uh they have a point.
I you know, I don't often apologize for things, and I cannot apologize for Trump.
Uh, but I I will apologize.
I had I hadn't even thought of that.
Um I don't like offending people, especially truckers.
Uh where would we be in this country without truckers?
We could get along without Rosie O'Donnell.
Uh, but we couldn't get along without truckers.
They have a point.
There is there's no question about it.
Harem, uh sorry, no, Warren.
This uh this font here uh on this call screener program here, and I'm don't don't try changing it.
It'll I'm sure the whole thing will crash if you do.
It actually looks like Harram, Ohio.
And I know there's not a harem, Ohio, and if there is, I want to go.
Doug, welcome to the EIB network.
Hi.
Rush?
Yeah.
I'm a retired army officer, and I'm upset about people calling in and making excuses for Sandy Burger.
If I had mishandled classified documents the way he did, I would still be in prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
Another thing, he went one step further.
He claimed that it was all accidental and that uh he just was clumsy or careless, but yet admitted that he put that document underneath a trailer and then came back for it later, which means he perjured himself in court.
Right.
He was not he was not well, it never got to court.
So he got a suspended sentence.
Well, and probation.
Well, I get well, yeah, I guess you're right.
I guess you're right.
The whole thing amazes me.
This is the Bush Justice Department.
I'm convinced that there are so many Clinton holdovers around uh all over the government that Bush, because of the new tone, did not clean house and get rid of.
Um I don't know how this happened.
I don't know.
I don't know how you get Scooter Libby on trial for his freedom, and Sandy Burger's out walking free.
These are classified documents.
He's admitted to taking them.
There's obviously uh uh conspiratorial thought here and and had to be strategic thought he hides them.
This is not the act of somebody sloppy, this is the act of somebody intentful.
But he only has a suspension of his class uh uh restrictions uh three years.
Uh privileges back again.
He'll get them back just in time for Hillary's inauguration.
I think that's the time frame.
I think he gets them back in two thousand nine or something shortly after that.
So he could be a custodian for classified documents again.
Yeah, he could be, yeah.
Look at I I can't explain this to and I can't explain why the well, I can and I can't.
I mean the Clinton administration or Clinton Library will not release the document that uh is the focus of all this.
If they had such a great record on anti-terrorism, uh that document ought to prove it, right?
Why?
Well, they got to hide.
And I think Mrs. Clinton ought to be asked about this every campaign appearance.
She won't be, but I think she should be.
But I don't I don't understand the the justice system.
I I don't understand I don't understand the thing going on at Duke with these lacrosse rape players or uh uh players and this uh this alleged rape when there's no evidence whatsoever to suggest it.
Uh I I don't I don't understand uh this this thing with Sandy Burger.
I don't understand Scooty Lib Scooter Libby case.
I don't understand how he cannot get access to documents he needs to prove his innocence because they're classified, yet Sandy Burglar's allowed to go steal them and put them back in some shape, form, or matter, and he's out walking free after a fifty thousand dollar fine.
I don't understand it.
I don't either, and all of us would have been in jail if we had done it.
No question about it.
Uh I I there there wasn't in fact what when the the people today on the report that came out yesterday, actually on uh the uh for the first time told us that Burger hid the stuff under construction trailer.
Quotes archives employees, well, we didn't think we had the power to inquire of someone the stature of Mr. Burger when they saw him what appeared to be putting documents or white somethings in his socks.
Uh you know, I what what none of it makes it you're you're exactly right.
Anybody else, the book would have been thrown at him, and the media would have demanded it.
I mean, compare the difference here with the media trying to get Rove or Libby or Cheney indicted for a charge on a charge that was never brought by the independent prosecutor, Mr. Fitzgerald.
There was no leak.
There was no leak of this woman's identity that was done.
He was that's not been charged.
What we have here in Libby's case is a process crime.
Perjury while the investigation was going on.
Libby's being tried for something that had nothing to do with the reason Patrick Fitzgerald was given this case that this case was established.
Zilch Zero Nine.
Here is Sandy Berger, who admits to taking the after-action, the Millennium After Action Review out of the National Archives, trying to do his best to make sure the 9-11 Commission got the truth.
And he was just being sloppy.
And there are people want to defend this.
Uh and and you compare what's the process that has Scooter Libby having to come up with how many millions of dollars for his defense, and Berger, still a hero to many in the drive-by media.
And much more here than uh than meets the eye.
Craig in Pittsburgh, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello, sir.
Merry Christmas Rush.
And if I could say Merry Christmas to our troops all around the world.
My point is this I don't think Clinton can get a pass on this um 9-11 uh when everybody talks about uh, you know, you can't go after Clinton, you can't blame it on Clinton, and it wasn't on his watch.
Well, I believe that by him hiding whatever he's hiding or not bringing out, which he could bring out the uh evidence that'll prove him right that there must be something wrong and that would link him to 9-11 and make it actually still on his watch, then that's the way I feel.
All right.
These calls have been on hold since the first hour, and let me for those of you just joining us, let me uh uh bring you up to speed here on uh on what we are uh discussing.
The report came yesterday that the uh uh Sandy Berger actually took these documents out of the National Archives and hid them under a construction trailer, uh so he could go back later and get them and do whatever he wanted, and they did three or four trips in and out uh making copies he wanted to go at home and study these things as all preparation for his 9-11 testimony.
Under the Freedom of Information Act, the landmark legal foundation has been attempting to secure all versions and copies of the document that Burglar messed around with, the Millennium After Action Review.
That's the document that Burger was trying to destroy in its various forms at the archives.
He has admitted this.
It's in the Washington Post, July 22nd, I think, 21st of 2004.
Anyway, the landmark legal foundation just received a letter from the Clinton Presidential Library rejecting landmark's appeal of their original denial of the request for all versions and copies.
This happened some months ago.
The first request that landmark made uh for all versions and copies was rejected.
Landmark appealed to asked him again, they've said no again.
Now, this is why this is significant.
As a matter of law, they have the authority to withhold the documents that they believe are classified until or under the President Presidential Records Act.
It means that Clinton's people, along with the the bureaucrats that run his library and massage parlor, uh don't have to release the documents.
And so the people at Landmark Legal Foundation are reviewing whether or not there's a legal basis for litigating this.
Now the point is this, and this this is what this is what Craig in Pittsburgh is alluding to.
There must be something really damaging in this document that Clinton doesn't want us to see.
There has to be.
Why else claim privacy under the uh uh Presidential Papers Act or whatever it's uh whatever it's called?
Uh because remember Clinton's out there trying to build a legacy.
He's out there trying to make it.
Remember the path to 9-11 the movie, how that shook him up.
Calling Bob Iger, demanding a thing not run.
Who knows what kind of pressure was applied elsewhere, because that movie chronicled all the things that this government did not do during the 1990s while it was aware of building terrorist activity.
Attacks in this country, 1993 in the World Trade Center, didn't do diddly squat.
And yet, the 9-11 Commission reported Clinton administration is a pretty good job, um, and this Millennium After Action Review, don't forget, laid credit for their policy for stopping a terrorist incident at LAX during Y2K.
And it was a very shrewd and uh uh competent customs agent in Seattle who nabbed the terrorist and the PERP, it wasn't the Clinton or Pope or uh Richard Clark or uh Sandy Burglar policy.
Had nothing to do with it.
Because everybody thinks that what Berger was doing was going in there and trying to alter this document to link it to this successful event for the legacy that Clinton needs, not only for himself but for his wife, who hopes to be elected president in 2008.
So I would think this is what Craig's point is, I would think that if the Millennium After Action Review has such great evidence of the great work and all of the attention being paid to counterterrorism by the Clinton administration, they would want it out there.
Well, they don't want it out there.
And we can only ask why, and we can only conclude that it must not be very flattering.
So landmark is seeking these documents under the Presidential Records Act and the Freedom of Information Act, both have uh multiple triggers built into them to make access to the documents very difficult unless Clinton relents, which he clearly has no intention of uh of doing.
And as I said, the th these are these are crucially important to history.
And everybody wants to know what Burglar did to them.
That's why the request was for all versions and copies of the Millennium After Action Review, because people want to see what exactly Sandy Burglar did with these documents that he took out of there.
And speaking for myself, I'd like to know what he put back in.
And were they altered in some way?
I have always been fascinated with that.
At any rate, brief time out, we'll be back and continue, my friends, here on the EIB network.
And we stay with the phones.
Uh Harlem, Barbara, you're nice to wait, I appreciate it.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Thank you so very much, Rush, for taking my call.
This is indeed a pleasure.
Listen, I just wanted to say that you are 100% correct in everything.
You are definitely excellent in broadcasting.
Wow.
Um, since 19 I'm I'm a traditional generational democrat.
I started listening to you many years ago in 1989.
You changed my whole outlook.
And I have I voted for Clinton the first go round.
But after you educated me, I couldn't vote for him anymore.
Uh during the uh presidential election, I had bumper stickers on my car, another Democrat for Bush, and everything you said about liberals is so correct.
And let me tell you something.
I, as a senior person, went uh enrolled in a college because I wanted to test some of what you were saying.
And the colleges, as you said, and I hear students call in, uh completely liberal, completely crazy, and I just graduated in May of 2006.
No kidding.
What did you what kind of degree?
I have a degree in letters.
Um, religion and art.
They teach you nothing.
They don't teach you anything, I should say.
All they teach you to do is hate America, and they teach the minority students that you can't make it here and hate The government.
But let me tell you something.
Your name is on so many of my reference papers.
Your name and other conservative talk show hosts.
They could not, even these credential people, they could not find any error in the facts that I quoted that I heard from you and others.
And let me I graduated at the top of the class with a 4.08 average in a liberal crazy place.
So I want to tell these younger students, go to class, put your papers in on time, don't miss any classes.
State the facts, give the references, and it they can't even say that it's wrong.
Your brother's book, I use that in many of my classes.
That's good because I actually I actually wrote that book.
That's good.
I used all of those as reference materials, and they could not give me anything lower than A's or A pluses.
I beat them at their own game because you educated me.
You started off.
Educating me, changing me, and I thank you so very much.
Well, by the way, I'm only kidding about writing my brother's book.
That's just I'm in one of these giddy moods.
You uh I don't I don't know what to say.
Uh uh you you you you said you're a senior citizen.
Well, I'm not a senior citizen, but I'm a mature person.
Okay, all right.
I I I have a grandson, and I decided let me go and see for myself if what you're saying is true.
You were a traditional generational Democrat, meaning you were just born to it, and so you thought that's what was.
That's right.
Grandmother, mother, everyone that I know is a Democrat.
So what was it that I mean, I know you've you've cited this program, but I'm always curious about how to get through to people because obviously something happened that made you start critically examining your own beliefs or and and and what your family had uh had taught you.
What was it?
Well, one thing about it, it it caused some conflict, and you know, because I believe the Bible.
And then I started listening to listening to the Democrats, and I say, Well, wait a minute.
If I believe the Bible, do I have to depend upon a political party to um to lift me out of poverty?
Or lifting out of poverty means I go to work.
And it meant I go to work and I've worked all of my life.
And I did I've never experienced a racism.
I was able, even after my husband left and uh left me with five children, I was able to provide for them, buy homes, and and things of this nature as a single woman, black woman in America, start businesses and things of this nature, and it just started.
I said, Now, how can I believe the Bible and then worship a party?
They don't provide for me.
If I if I don't get out here and work, you know what I mean?
I'll be just uh in slavery.
Well, this is just this is just tremendous.
I I um you you you uh you did this all on your own.
Yes.
And you know, you you you use the right word, worship a political party.
That's right.
You know, that's that's right.
That is a great way to describe they worship government, they worship Democrat, but they worship things.
Uh they worship themselves if they're baby boomered, liberals.
Uh and I this is this heartwarming to hear.
I I we hear this quite a bit on this program, and I cannot thank you enough.
You're you're giving me way too much of the credit here.
I'll take some.
I deserve some.
But you deserve some.
Give me way too much here.
But thank you, thank you, Rush, because you opened up my eyes, and you know, and with even when I had my bumper sticker on the car, another Democrat for Bush, they threw eggs on the car, they did all sorts of mean things, and you know, I don't see the Republicans doing those sort of things when people want to vote Democrat or whatever.
No, Republicans eat the eggs they buy.
They sure do because they need to come into these minority communities, just like Giuliani did.
I hung out with Giuliani and watched him before he was elected mayor, and he was bold enough to come to some of the black churches.
He was bold enough to come into the community, even his wife was there in Harlem, and you see he was elected.
Absolutely was.
I wish we had more time.
I really do.
I wish we had more time.
But uh Barbara, you are an inspiration.
Uh no better time of the year than Christmas time to get your call uh for millions of Americans to hear it.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you very much.
We'll be back and continue in just a moment, my good buddies.
Okay, we still have uh uh lots to go out there here on the EIB network.
I've I've got to get to my Christmas stack.
Uh we'll lead off the monologue in the next hour with a Christmas snack here on just I hope you people know how miserable and angry you are.
Uh and if you're not, you should be, according to the drive-by media.
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