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December 12, 2006, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Amidst billowing clouds of fragrant aromatic second and third hand well it's primary and whatever all cigar smoke.
Rush Limbaugh and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Great to have you with us, folks.
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We have gone back to the archives, ladies and gentlemen, the audio archives.
And I want I just want you to hear the exchange that took place between Stephanopoulos and Rahm Emanuel on Stephanopoulos' show back on October the 8th.
Remember the House Ethics Committee has come out with its report now that Democrats shopped the foley story to papers, that uh they knew about it, uh, and they they were trying to get papers to run it.
They succeeded ultimately.
But the point of this is that they knew exactly what they were accusing Republican leadership of doing.
Uh they were doing the same thing.
They were letting a known predator hang around and uh and continue to do his dirty deeds, waiting for the opportune time.
Now that's politics, fine and dandy, these kinds of things happen, opposition research, but they lied about it, and we want to get the lie on record.
So we go back to October the 8th.
Stephanopoul has as his guests, Ram Emanuel and Adam Putnam, who's a Republican from Florida.
And Stephanopoulos says all week long there have been on talk radio uh and uh by Republicans and their A allies uh that this was perhaps a Democrat dirty trick, and I just want to ask you plainly.
Did you or your staff know anything about these emails or instant messages before they came out?
George, never saw them.
And I'm gonna say one thing.
Let's go through the facts right here.
Are you aware of it?
They never saw them.
No involvement.
We never saw them, no involvement, and she said not anything, George.
And what the fact is, this is a holy noise.
No, never saw them.
And here's what I said after playing that bite uh on October the 9th.
That sounds like an evasion.
It sounds like a manual saying I never saw the instant messages.
But he's asked point blank, were you aware of them?
Never saw them.
Never saw them.
Never saw him, never saw him.
Doesn't mean he didn't know about it, ladies and gentlemen, trying to uh cover the issue.
What was interesting here, you had two former Clinton guys, uh uh, one now an objective journalist on ABC, uh, the other a congressman from uh Illinois running the Democrat Senate campaign committee.
Uh and uh you know the revolving door between the offices of uh presidents and democratic legislators and the media uh just keeps moving, gets wider and wider and wider.
Uh here's an interesting story on stem cells.
Uh uh, ladies and gentlemen, healthy newborn babies may have been killed in Ukraine to uh feed a flourishing international trade in stem cells, according to evidence obtained by the BBC.
Disturbing video footage of post-mortem examinations on dismembered tiny bodies raises serious questions about what happened to them.
Ukraine has become the self-styled stem cell capital of the world.
There is a trade in stem cells from aborted fetuses amid unproven claims that they can help fight many diseases, but now there are claims that stem cells are also being harvested from live babies.
In its report, the uh Council of Europe describes a general culture of trafficking of children snatched at birth and a wall of silence from hospital staff upwards over their fate.
The uh pictures show organs, including brains, have been stripped and some bodies dismembered.
It could possibly be a result of harvesting stem cells from the bone marrow.
What amazes me is that this story gets accurate representation and reporting from the uh BBC.
But I I would like to ask uh Michael J. Fox and Claire McCaskill what they think of this story.
I don't think I'll have the chance, but on the um on the off chance, they will hear about this story.
I would love to know what they think about this.
Love to know what they think about this.
Remember, as this story says, unproven claims that these stem cells, embryonic stem cells, can help fight diseases.
There's no evidence whatsoever.
And now you've got exactly what the opponents of embryonic stem cell research have been saying Is now happening.
Babies are being killed after they're born or being stripped from the womb, all for their stem cells.
People are being biome.
This is what happens.
This is exactly what happens, and this is I'll tell you what this is.
It's a combination of a fraud from the medical science community, uh, simply wanting dollars for research when they can't get any private money because there's no reason to invest in this.
It's got no future.
So they want to go to the federal government and get money.
The federal government in this country denying to do it.
And so the drive-by media is a perfect drive-by media example.
Drive-by media hits on this, comes in, lobs the mortar fire, starts opening rounds of ammunition about how rotten the Bush administration is, about how rotten Republicans are.
Michael J. Fox runs TV ads claiming that Jim Talent wants to criminalize research into this when he doesn't.
Same thing with uh Michael Steele in uh in Maryland, and so the drive-by media gets this all worked up, and they convince a bunch of people that there's hope when there's none, that there is a future when there isn't, that there is promise when there isn't.
And so people say, My gosh, my government's denying this to me, and I want to be cured, and I don't care what happens, and so the Ukraine people, hey, there's a market for this.
Try our babies.
This is exactly what happens.
This is the point that I was trying to make and did make eloquently.
It was just ignored outside of the audience of this program during the uh campaign, midterm campaign in October and November of uh of this year.
Ward Churchill is back.
An ethnic studies professor from the University of Colorado, Ward Churchill, received a standing O last night from a crowd of more than 200 new school students, this is in New York, after blaming the 2001 World Trade Center attacks on America's support for Israel and its sanctions against Iraq in 1996.
In a two-hour speech at the new school titled Sterilizing History, The Fabrication of Innocent Americans delivered without notes, Mr. Churchill traced what he called a pattern of mass murders as American foreign policy from the time of the country's inception to the events of September 11th, which he said the country was essentially asking for.
Here you go.
We've got a card-carrying, wacko liberal socialist standing up and telling everybody who he is and who his buddies are in the process.
Ward Churchill also called the president of the new school, Bob Carey, the former senator from Nebraska, a mass murderer and a serial killer to boot for having served in Than Phong, Vietnam.
Mr. Churchill also served in Vietnam, an act for which he said he has spent the rest of his life apologizing.
Mr. Churchill received cheers from the audience for comparing Bob Carey to the serial killer Charles Manson.
That's who you've got moral equivalency in the president's chair at this institution, Churchill said.
How about a cage for Carey rather than a president's suite?
He was invited to the new school by a student group, the women of color.
The university was not involved in the invitation.
We brought him here because he offers a framework in which we can conceptualize the struggles that our community is dealing with, said a junior at the new school, Jamilet Thompson.
Person's work should be engaged critically.
His work allows us to build broad-based networks with Native Americans, Latinos, and anti-racist whites.
Now, uh Andrew Greeley, columnist Chicago Sun-Times on December the 8th, referred to me as the poisonous Rush Limbo.
Mr. Churchill is treated as a framework in which students can conceptualize the struggles of our community.
And his work allows them to build broad-based networks with Native Americans, Latinos, and anti-racist whites.
And so real poison, real extremism, insanity, if you will, uh celebrated by people on the left.
Nothing wrong with this.
Why this is considered uh uh the free flow of ideas, the expression of uh ideas, which is what's supposed to happen at the university and academe and uh and so forth.
Students yesterday jumped to his defense, arguing that his little Eichmann statement was taken out of context when it was publicized on Fox News.
Churchill yesterday seemed happier to cultivate his image as a provocative figure than to defend himself.
Campus cops are out in force.
Metal detectors were set up outside the auditorium for his appearance due to fear of a possible attack against the professor.
The talk drew little protest from the student body.
That is because people who oppose him have better things to do than to waste their time showing up at one of his speeches.
We'll be back.
Lectures.
I'm saying the lectures without notes, ladies and gentlemen.
Isn't that isn't that impressive?
Two hours without notes.
Wonder how many other people do that regularly and routinely, but this somehow is supposed to impress us.
Um the power of the intellect of this lunatic.
We'll be back.
Stay with us, Fix.
Manheim steamroller, Christmas time on the EIB network.
Nobody, nobody will strip our joy during this Christmas season.
We just simply won't put up with it.
We'll not put up with the effort.
Too many people out there trying to do that.
Don in Chicago, as we go back to the phones.
Hello, sir.
28 day dinos, Rush.
Thank you.
From Chicago, uh referencing that Andrew Grouley article, you know.
I grew up literally on that paper.
My dad retired 47 years as an executive uh advertising executive with the Sun Times.
My brother currently drives for them.
But it's no wonder that uh sales of the paper are down, their average advertising revenue is in the toilet because uh they can't sell papers, and I think last week their stock hit an all-time low of below six dollars a share, which means the paper's literally up for auction, or whoever wants to buy it can buy it because heads are rolling.
It's just in a terrible state, and it's no wonder because this paper has gone to the toilet because uh this liberal flat that it's gotten this Padre on the wrong side of every issue he writes about.
Well, but wait a minute.
Chicago's a liberal Democrat town.
I would I would think that uh Andrew Greeley would be loved and widely read.
Well, that may be the case, but he's still wrong on all the issues.
I mean, uh I think Stardom's gone to his head.
Well, when that ever stop liberals.
That's true.
No, seriously, when did it ever stop being wrong on issues, being being wrong on uh on fundamentals, would it ever stop them?
You know what, I I I know the newspaper business is in trouble.
I I don't think you can attribute uh uh a columnist's efforts uh well, you cannot you cannot blame uh the entire free fall of uh any newspaper on a single columnist.
Uh newspapers true are in trouble.
The problem with the newspaper business is on the on the uh journalism side, not the business side, they think they should be immune from bottom line concerns that the word profit will somehow impringe upon the great journalism that is taking place.
There's no effort on the part of journalists to connect with their audience.
Uh journalists have a sort of an elitist attitude.
They they look at the audience as being a bunch of Nimrod know nothings.
Um they're trained to write at a sixth grade level, so what does that tell you?
They think their audience is stupid, and they talk down to them.
That's the condescension.
Uh, and there's no there's no effort to connect.
There's no no attempt even, and uh that's because of the elitism that most journalism uh today parades around in.
They just they assume nobody knows anything until they read it in the newspaper, uh, or maybe see it on uh on television.
And they and and you know, the successful talk radio shows like this one, primary reason for the success is a direct familial type connection between host and audience.
And they don't understand it, but they resent it.
Old hell.
And so rather than debate us and rather than treat us fairly and challenge our ideas, it's just we have to be dehumanized, and we have to be uh discredited.
Uh and and and we we have to be uh held out as, you know, almost alien type figures, uh that in some cases should not even be allowed to speak publicly.
Yet uh journalists and newspaper people hold themselves out as the only thing linking the American population to the First Amendment and the rest of the Constitution.
It really is an arrogant bunch of people with a condescending attitude.
And if they ever learn to connect with an audience, and I bet there are newspapers out there that do uh and and are doing pretty well.
Uh But that's beneath them.
Connect the audience.
We're not here to understand what the audience wants, and that's not what I'm saying, by the way, but that's the way they interpret connect with the audience.
No, no.
We're here to inform them whether they like it or not.
Journalism is the one business I know where the customer's always wrong.
Customer doesn't know what he's talking about.
Letter to the editor can complain about this, uh, can complain about that.
People can cancel their prescriptions, and uh people still the newspaper people it's just too late, it's too stupid to know how good they've got it.
So it's the only business, and it is a business, where the uh customer is presumed always to be wrong.
Sharon in Fort Lauderdale, you're next.
Great to have you here on the EIB network.
Hey, Russ, how are you doing?
Good.
Mega Ditto here from a conservative woman down in sunny South Florida.
Nice to meet one.
Still know how to have fun.
Listen, I always try to call for political uh debate, but I ended up getting through with a comment I have on the heart attack grill.
Yes.
I'm a physician.
And I are you just can't say that and move on.
I have questions.
Why not?
Well, because what kind of physician are you?
I'm an internal medicine physician.
Wow.
Yeah.
Woohoo.
Big time.
That's important.
Is it?
Well, I think, you know, just from my own perspective, if I went into a restaurant to have a heart attack burger, which I might, I don't want to see girls.
I don't have any problem with it, but I'd much rather see male nurses.
You know, the male nurses usually are better built and they have nicer arms, and let them serve me a heart attack burger.
Uh yes, but look, now no, no, no.
And you're missing the point.
How many people do you think fantasize about male nurses?
None.
Well, then we'll have to make them mail something or other.
I don't know what male talk show is.
Now there you're talking.
There's a lot of fantasizing.
I think I found my new career.
There you go.
By the way, you know, I was I was think Sharon, thanks.
Thanks, thanks so much for the call.
I was thinking else something else here about the uh heart attack grill.
We've we've already posited ideas.
We give these away, by the way.
We we we're here to help capitalism.
We are here to help businesses.
John Basso runs the place out there, he's the owner of the heart attack grill and Tempe.
Uh we've already suggested stethoscopes so that the uh the waitress nurses can check heartbeats uh after a couple of bites of these uh bypass burgers.
Uh wheelchairs so that the waitresses can roll the patients out of the restaurant after dinner, avoid liability issues, and uh uh you know, build on the fantasy aspect and and make sure, of course, after eating a quadruple bypass burger that you get out the door before you collapse.
You don't want them collapsing inside.
And then as an added bonus on the menu for an additional price, CPR lessons.
I guess it might be necessary at some point in the future at the Heart Attack Grill.
Cheryl in Cleveland, you're next on the EIB network.
It's great to have you here.
Cheryl in Cleveland.
Did she go?
Ah, hi, nice to have you.
I thought you were going to commercial.
I I too like Sharon.
I never thought I'd be calling in for this topic because um you were the person that guided me ever since September eleventh.
I've been listening to you religiously, and uh, you know, you've gotten me through a lot of times when I've I've doubted uh my backing of Bush, and I appreciate that, and I I uh just want you to know that I I think you're an you're an awesome credit to the conservative party.
However, today, I am an RN.
Um and uh I want you to know that I'm I am not a feminist, but I I want you to know that um as an RN, we are are taking care of our patients, you know, on an intimate basis.
Um it's really tough to draw that line.
Uh we're doing things to our patients that no one else, including a spouse would be doing.
Um especially a spouse uh these days and age.
Right.
Uh you know, we always try to uh maintain uh uh a level of professionalism in our care of our patients.
I work at a facility that is um uh known uh throughout the world.
Um I take my job very seriously.
Um I consider myself um uh I don't want to say a guardian angel, but when I have my patients for my shift, I do everything I can to make sure that that no harm comes to them.
Have you ever known an experience?
Have you ever seen it or heard about it where a nurse has fallen for a patient?
Uh um, you know, I I think it's mostly the other way around because I have been approached by patients.
I've been asked out, I actually Now why is that?
Now why is this seriously, Cheryl?
I've got it I do have to take a break, but I want you to hold on during the break, and I want you to you you've seen patients fall for, not hit on, but genuinely fall for.
It's a different thing here than objectifying them.
All right.
I want you to tell me why.
You think that happens.
I'll be back.
We'll discuss this further.
It's apparent this topic has well, it's litting up the board out there.
Lit up the board, it's a lightning rod issue.
Nurses and love.
That's exactly what happens here.
We think for you.
Go through the day's news.
I'm America's real anchor man.
Uh figure out what's happening out there, tell you what to think about it as an added bonus.
Uh and we go back now to Cheryl in Cleveland, Ohio.
Now we're not talking about objectification here.
We understand that that that's gonna happen.
Well, why do you think that uh people fall for nurses?
Well, in in the hospital, in the hospital, not at the bar.
Right.
Okay, first of all, you know, when a patient is in the hospital and they're sick, um a lot of them question uh their sexuality or their or their ability to ever perform sexually, especially if they have a terminal illness or they're very ill.
Um, you know, so people revert back to an earlier stage in development in some cases, um they're more needy, um nurses take on were uh nurturers, uh we're intimately caring for the I think that's it.
I I think somebody's just taking a time to care for them.
And not only that, they're in bed.
You know, we're I mean, you know, it's essentially I mean Which is half the battle uh already done, exactly.
Right, but uh you know, i so people transform oh that you know the setting of of a bedroom because they're in a bed and they're in their pajamas and they're and then we're there and we're taking care of them and and we're taught in nursing school not to be judgmental.
We care for patients regardless of of how they think, feel, or believe about anything.
Okay, so given all of this, does this heart attack grill concept with waitresses scantily clad as nurses uh bother you?
It does you know what it does bother me because it's like I said, it's hard enough to maintain that level of professionalism, uh to you know, um take care of patients with dignity and to be uh treated with respect.
Okay, so nurses are above parody.
Uh oh I hear what you're saying.
I know Well, I mean you know, there have been some movies.
Uh movies make fun of all kinds of professions and people uh and people laugh at them and they some of them win Oscars, some of them win all kinds of awards.
Uh right.
Why why why does a why is a place like the Heart Attack Grill get singled out?
Is because it's real and not make believe on film.
Well, I I think the only reason that it's singled out is because you've brought it to the attention of of the public, and I heard you talking about it a couple of days ago, and I wanted to call in, but at that point I I didn't have the time.
I was glad you were talking about it still today, but um, you know, I uh it took us a number of years to overcome uh I don't want to say that we're above purity, but um we're uh I I don't know how to say it.
It's not that we're pure, but um you know I know what look at look at look at I can relate to you.
I know what you're talking about.
You take what you do very seriously.
You studied hard for it, you had to go to school, you're in service to humanity.
Uh and and uh you you you take it personally when people make fun of it and so forth, or make light of it, I should say, or or what have you.
I I'll tell you, I I don't think a place like the Heart Attack Cafe is gonna is gonna damage the reputation of nurses.
Uh I've I've I I don't think calling attention to something like this does that.
We all get made fun of.
Uh we've all been made fun of our whole lives.
Some of us, I mean, some people get scarred for life because of it.
There's no question about people can be cruel and mean.
Uh for me, you know, it's it's uh you can take it's a way of life uh in terms of political critics and so forth.
Uh and I, you know, I I I would I would be embarrassed if I were to go public and say talk show hosts must stop being parodied and must stop being made fun of.
We take very seriously what we do.
We are trying to inform the public.
We only want what's best for the country, and we are being destroyed and made to look like a bunch of buffoons, but that would embarrass me to go do that.
I just I'll engage them in the battle.
Uh rather rather than you know form an organization and become a special interest group and start protesting if I'm mistreated or if my fur feelings get hurt.
Because I think it's the, I think it's life.
And I think there are ways that you deal with this or can deal with it that uh are actually more effective than complaining.
What, Snerdly, you disagree with this?
You just Well, Snerdley can't believe this is such a big topic.
Well, but you're a sexist.
And uh, you're you're a how would you like being treated as a sex object, Snerdly?
Yes.
So you ask most men that question, they would love it.
Most men would love to be sex objects.
This is what we don't understand.
The female and male brains are totally different.
There's just and there's no I don't care what the feminists have tried to do or will try to do in the future.
There's no way that uh there's the the the that anybody's gonna be able to make the emotional pathways and the neurological pathways in the brains of men and women similar.
Cheryl, thanks for the call.
Uh I appreciate it.
How about Kofi Annan?
Kofi Annan went out to uh Missouri to deliver the first of his five farewell addresses.
Now, you know, I I actually think that Kofi Annan is probably the one person most responsible for the mass at Iraq.
He ran an organization that didn't do diddly squat over 16 or 17 resolutions.
There were a gazillion threats, ten years of Barbara Streisand, ten years of BS, the oil for food program, which propped Sudan uh Hussein up in power, allowed him to enrich himself along with Kofi Annan and his son, and who knows who else at the United Nations.
If it hadn't been for Kofi Annan and the United Nations, Saddam Hussein would not have prospered, would not have been able to get away with threatening the world with his weapons of mass destruction.
The United Nations sat by, literally did nothing while Saddam Hussein was thumbing his nose at the organization.
All those resolutions, totally ignored, passed and ignored, which is the standard operating procedure of the U.N., the U.N. is never ever to be judged on results.
They're only to be judged on their intentions, just like just like liberals demand for all of their um all of their programs.
Uh and and you know, even though all these social good do gooder programs failed miserably, destroyed families, black families, and poverty stricken families.
Our intentions were good, our hearts were at least we were trying to help.
What were you doing?
You were doing nothing.
We were trying to help, don't blame us.
Same thing here.
And now Kofi and has the audacity to go out and blame the United States, take it.
President Bush just had a farewell dinner for him at the White House.
This is something you do it it boils down to something as simple as manners.
And the left has none from Ted Kennedy being invited to the White House to screen a movie about his brother JFK and the Cuban Missile Crisis with the popcorn machine going and pressed scotch bottles open to being allowed to write the education bill.
Any number of Democrats have been uh uh wooed.
This president has done his best, particularly the first term.
And they just treated him with meanness.
It's just plain and simple mean.
And Kofi and then the same thing.
He was given a farewell dinner, and I read that he was being given a farewell dinner by Bush, and I said, why?
And then I realized it's the office.
Bush takes the office seriously.
This is something the presidency does when a UN Secretary General retires or moves on.
Um I just I I I just I find this whole this whole scenario reprehensible.
Kofi Annan, head of an organization that exists to pick the pockets of Americans, that exists to cut America down to size, That exists to not solve one single problem.
Every time there's a major problem, who does the UN call?
It's us.
And we do our level best to fix these problems, and what do we get?
Nothing.
No gratitude, no appreciation, just a bunch of lip from a bunch of socialist thugs, dictators, communists, and tyrants led by an inept, incompetent boob who can't even pronounce words correctly half the time.
But something he said yesterday, I'm surprised.
I'm I'm literally surprised that nobody has picked up on this.
To a headline reader or a drive-by journalist, you might think that Kofi Annan did the same old, same old, a very undiplomatic critique of the United States.
But if you parse his message, he cited the far-sighted leadership of the Truman tradition.
The far-sighted leadership in the Truman tradition, American leadership in the Truman tradition.
Harry Truman was both famous and controversial for ending a war with a bold decision.
In fact, two bold decisions, dropping an A-bomb on Hiroshima and another one on Nagasaki.
That was the far-sighted American leadership in the Truman tradition.
And let's talk about Korea.
Harry Truman ended a war in a decisive fashion, the only president to ever order the use of an atomic bomb.
So I'm wondering if Kofi Anon was actually hinting that we should drop a couple of nukes on Iran and anywhere else there's a problem in the world, solve it in the Truman tradition.
More Hiroshimas, more Nagasaki's.
MSNBC just ran a little crawler across the screen.
Barack Obama endorsed the Chicago Bears last night.
How do you endorse a sports team?
Why what's so odd is he's from Chicago.
Why wouldn't he want the Bears to win?
Barack Obama.
It's like a breaking news or flash.
Barack Obama embors endorses Chicago Bears.
Okay, who's next?
Virginia Wilmington, Delaware.
Great greetings and uh uh thanks for your patience in waiting.
Hello.
Hi, this is uh Virginia Megadidos from the first state.
Um I'm glad you just mentioned Osama.
Uh I'm sorry, Obama.
Yeah, be careful.
Uh we have a problem with the media in what they choose to report and what they don't choose to report, and that was one of the things you talked about today, where they um failed to report Kennedy's misstatement.
Um, if for example, he had been a Republican, you can be sure he would have been reported.
No question.
And for example, if William Jefferson had been a Republican, he certainly would have been crucified by the media.
And we have more on Congressman William Jefferson, Democrat Louisiana coming up, by the way.
Okay.
And you wonder if the media will ever hold Nancy Pelosi's feet to the fire about her statement wanting a to have the most ethical Congress in history.
Anyway, I wanted to make a suggestion.
Seems like Fire away.
Seems like we're missing conservative reporters.
And I wanted to make a suggestion that you start a scholarship fund under your name, offering college sophomores who are currently majoring in things like English or psych or sociology, who'd be willing to major in journalism?
And um, I would be willing to make a small donation to start up this fund if you would be willing to run it and name it.
You know, people have suggested uh this and uh similar things, like why don't you buy CBS Rush?
Um, and just straighten it out.
Uh I can think of better investments than uh than to actually buy a network.
Besides the idea that that I could not a hostile take over and succeed is uh, I think a little doubtful.
As for the scholarship plan, it's not a bad idea, but you're talking about uh what, how many students?
You know what's going to happen to them.
Do you realize the Ford Foundation, the um Rock of Rock Ford Foundation, uh uh I don't know how many of these wealthy, Wealthy uh philanthropist foundations were endowed by their namesakes, and they were created in the image of their namesake.
These were entrepreneur capitalists, they have been totally taken over by liberals, totally taken over by the left.
Um the Ford family rolls over in its grave everywhere.
They figure out what the Ford Foundation is doing, a number of these summit of things.
So I could give a scholarship.
We could we could start a you know a series of scholarships by the time uh these uh young skulls full of mush and end up going through journalism school, who knows what's going to happen to their brains, and we're gonna end up funding it.
Well, you have to have some hope that if you I have hope.
I have hope.
I live on hope.
If you screen your applicants properly, and they are truly conservative or conservative Republicans to start, they may end up as conservative Republican journalists.
Yeah, and then who's gonna hire them?
Who's who's going to hire them?
Well, I'm sure that if they are qualified and good journalists, they will get hired.
By who?
I mean, the the the qualified good journalist has a specific meaning if you're going to go to work for a typical liberal news network or publication.
If I think if we have a group of young people who are motivated and ideologically conservative, they'll somehow band together and they'll make a way.
Well, have your own organization, they may start a new you don't know what's going to happen.
But if we don't start feeding young Republican or conservative journalists into the system, it's not going to change.
I well, but I think it's happening.
Um there are actually more conservative reporters out there than you know, the New York Sun.
Uh of course, Fox News has their share.
Uh there are a bunch of magazines like National Review of the American Spectator, which are conservative.
We've got uh we got moles at CNN, but I can't name names.
Uh they're they're not I mean, they're not having much effect.
Uh well, actually they are, because CNN's now starting to lose to M SNBC.
When you lose to MSNBC, folks.
I mean, that that's that's like losing the to my uh to uh Marconi.
I mean no audience that just it's in it's incredible.
But so maybe our moles are actually doing their work inside the bowels of of uh CNN.
But there are Hillsdale College, uh Larry Arne is is doing his best to produce exactly what you say.
There are a number pepperdyne, there are a number of places uh a lot of universities which are taking this mission up, uh, and they're always looking for uh grants and donors uh for scholarships.
Uh and it it's not a bad idea.
It really isn't.
Something's gonna have to I agree with you.
Everybody gets frustrated, what can be done.
See, I have a little different perspective uh than all of you, because you know, I I do what I do, and I have since 1988, what there has been a lot of progress.
Let me just give you an illustration.
Back in the Vietnam War era, Walter Cronkite was able to turn the people of this country against the war with one newscast.
One day, one five-minute report.
Lyndon Johnson saw it, said I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America, I've lost the country.
And he decided not to run anymore, and that was it.
Now, the media doesn't have that kind of power anymore.
It took them three years to gin up anti-war support and uh uh uh the anti-Bush sentiment resulting in the November elections.
But there are also a lot of other factors in that election.
Who knows what would have happened if the conservative Republicans running for office would have had some guts and would have stood up for what the president was trying to do and tried to be unified rather than be cowed by the media.
Uh this is something we're always going to have to deal with is Washington, D.C. Republicans uh not wanting to be criticized and set wanting puff pieces on the style section of the Washington Post.
There's a way you do that.
There's a way you get invited on the Stefanopla Show, the way you get invited on Tim Russert and treated with respect, and that is you you oppose your own party.
Hello, Senator McCain, hello, Senator Hagel, hello, Gordon Smith.
That's how you got on TV this past weekend.
Before that, nobody who knew who Gordon Smith was outside of people in Oregon.
So it's it's uh it's a channel, but there is progress being made.
Their monopoly doesn't exist anymore.
They still have a lot of power, however, and they need to be battled, and I appreciate all these suggestions uh in ways to succeed.
One of the esteemed guests at uh Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's there was no Holocaust Convention was David Duke, former uh Grand Pooh Bada Klan.
Sounding a lot like Jimmy Carter, folks.
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