I'm Roger Hedgecock filling in for Rush, taking your calls at 1-800-282-2882.
Now, sometime back, the spy agency in Britain, MI5, you know them from the Bond films.
There actually is a woman who's ahead of this, as in the films, Dame Eliza Manningham Bueller.
Quite an imposing name.
Dame Bueller, or is it Dame Manningham Bueller, announced in a press conference that MI5 had foiled five major plots since the bombings that occurred in London from al-Qaeda.
And they are tracking almost 30 more terrorist plots involving a whopping 1,600 suspects in Britain.
She was asked what she meant when she said originally there were numerous plots to kill people and damage our economy.
She says, what do I mean by numerous?
Five, ten?
No, nearer 30 that we currently know of.
She added that MI5 and local police had uncovered 200 cells actively engaged in plotting or facilitating terrorist acts here and overseas.
In an earlier report, MI5 estimating 8,000 British Muslims supporting or facilitating al-Qaeda.
Now, that's out of a population of about 60 million.
In the United States, with 300 million people, you have not heard anything.
In fact, the FBI says there's no al-Qaeda terrorists in the United States.
Let's see, here's the director, Robert Mueller on CNN, Al Ja CNN now.
Quote, I don't think al-Qaeda is largely represented in the United States or people that espouse violent extremism.
How's that?
Are we sugarcoating this?
Are we sweeping it under the rug?
Are we refusing, for example, to put on your America's most wanted list, Mr. FBI, the most wanted guy in the world, Adnan Shukra Juma?
Adnan Shukra Juma, raised in the United States by an imam who was an imam at the Brooklyn Mosque where the blind sheikh plotted to bomb the World Trade Center in 93.
That Adnan Shukra Juma grew up, he's only 30 now, I guess, or early 30s, 5'4, 140 pounds, clean-shaven, doesn't appear out of sorts, speaks perfect American English.
He is a trained nuclear technician.
He's an accomplished pilot.
And according to Paul Williams in his book, The Al-Qaeda Connection, he has been singled out by Osama bin Laden to serve as the field commander for the next terrorist attack on the United States, known among al-Qaeda planners as, quote, the American Hiroshima, unquote.
In other words, a nuclear event.
According to Mr. Williams in his book, The Terrorist Was Last Seen in Mexico, where on November 1st, 2004, he allegedly hijacked a Piper Pawnee crop duster from Ejito Cuerataro near Mexicali to transport a nuclear weapon and nuclear equipment into the U.S.
This person isn't even on the 10 most wanted.
He is a bolo, I think is what they call him, a be on the lookout for.
I'd be on the lookout for him 24-7 if I were you, because this is the threat we're actually facing.
It isn't whether or not the Goodyear plant's going to stay in Kansas.
It isn't whether or not we're going to have candy manufactured in the United States.
It isn't whether or not we have ethical second-in-command at the Democrat new majority in the House of Representatives.
All of those things that fill up the newspaper and most of the cable news networks pale into absolute insignificance when compared to the threat we actually face when compared to what's actually going to happen.
So, since we have been warned by the head of the CIA in public testimony, by the head of the FBI, that it's not a question of if but when the next attack occurs.
If we know our southern and northern borders are virtually open, if we know on our southern border, and I live along the southern border and we have seen the prayer rugs and Korans and all the things we found in the bushes along with all the other trash left by illegals coming into the United States, since we have seen the reports of the OTM category of the border patrol, that's other than Mexicans that have been detained crossing the border illegally,
since we have seen the statistics that hundreds and sometimes thousands of those folks come from the top seven nations that sponsor terrorism, I would suggest that any border policy that doesn't include securing the border first is suicide.
It isn't just bad policy.
It isn't just a debate about workers.
It isn't just a debate about protectionism.
It isn't just a debate about the average annual income of the average American worker versus the illegal.
It's all of those things, of course, but it is more fundamentally about whether or not we're going to protect ourselves from the coming attack.
Now, over in Iraq, where all of the attackers are currently focused, because that's where we're killing them and they're killing us, rather than in Albuquerque or Kansas City or someplace like that, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton asked General Abuzaid yesterday, who was up there giving his report before the Senate Armed Services Committee for the first time since the election,
asked that about this strategy and said, hope is not a strategy.
She said, I've heard over and over again the Iraqi government must do this, the Iraqi army must do that.
Nobody disagrees.
The brutal fact is, none of it's happening.
Hope is not a strategy, she said.
Laudatory talk about what the Iraqi government must do is getting old.
Well, yeah, it is.
But the fact is, and these are facts that, again, since the election is over, can we just have all of them come out in the news?
Because when you look at the average of all of the aid projects, all of the construction projects, all the infrastructure, all the pipelines and water and sewer and all that stuff, except for Sauter City and the slums, they have always been there in Baghdad, the truth is that 80, 85, 90 percent of those projects are complete or nearing completion.
The truth is that most Iraqis are living in a better than they were under Saddam Hussein in terms of the infrastructure, and certainly better in terms of freedom.
Dozens of newspapers, dozens of radio and television stations have bloomed, many of them with their own agenda, many of them with the hate America stuff and all that stuff too, but they are there competing for the average Iraqis free choice.
We have already won in Iraq in that sense.
Now, are Americans getting killed?
Of course.
In fact, this really does disturb me.
The crime rate, the murder rate in Baghdad is almost what it is in Washington, D.C., and that's intolerable.
1-800-282-2882.
Let's go to David in Jonesboro, Georgia.
Hi, David.
Hey, Roger.
Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
If I can speak to you bringing up the, if I was hearing you correctly, the idea that the Vatican is going to be revisiting the idea of clerical celibacy.
Yes.
I think it's good that they revisit that.
First of all, because there's no religious basis for it.
For celibacy.
It was put in place in or about the time period we call the Middle Ages as a cost-cutting measure for the Catholic Church during the time when they were basically trying to be a government too, to avoid the expense of paying for the families of priests in addition to the priests themselves.
The number of the original apostles in the New Testament, including Peter, whom they regard as the first Pope, were married.
And as a matter of fact, I believe it's in the book of Timothy that we're given the instruction that bishops, among the other good qualities that they are to have, should be the husband of one wife.
Okay, now, David, I'm not going to get into a biblical discussion with you because I'm no expert on this, but did Jesus have sex?
Hello, David.
If he was married, he did, but I don't know that he was married.
Okay, in the Bible, as you understand it.
David, David, David, hold on, David.
In the Bible, as you understand it, did Jesus have sex?
No.
He also wasn't a cleric.
He was the son of God.
Hold on, David.
I'm not asking you for all of the other weaseling and whining here.
I'm just asking you the question because you said there was no biblical basis for celibacy.
Isn't it true that in the Bible, as you understand it, Jesus did not have sex and was celibate?
I don't, that is true, but I don't see that as a basis for human beings not having sex.
So other than the fact that Jesus was celibate, there's nothing in the Bible that says anything about celibacy.
Thank you, David, for your call.
Hubert in Austin, Texas is next on the Rush Show.
Hello, Hubert.
Hi, Roger.
Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
You spoke a little while ago about Sitco, and, you know, Citco is owned by Venezuela, and all their gas comes from Venezuela, and that you didn't want to buy any more gas from them.
And I was just going to say, I certainly, you know, I don't think anybody really wants to prop up Venezuela, but not buying gas from Sitco is really not going to help.
Because if you and every other American said, gee, we're not going to buy any more gas from Sitco.
We're going to go to Exxon and Texaco and Shell and buy our gas there, then suddenly those gas companies would have an increased demand and would have to find more gasoline.
And it's a world market.
Where are they going to find it?
They probably have to buy it from Venezuela.
So you really, even if everyone didn't buy gas from Sitco, it's really not going to accomplish anything.
Yeah, I agree with that, Hubert.
I think you're probably right economically.
You know what it'll accomplish?
I'll feel better.
You'll feel better.
It makes you feel better.
That's what I'm saying.
I will feel better because my dollars will not go directly to Hugo Chavez.
Yeah, don't blame you one bit there.
But the long-term thing is we need to both increase supply and decrease demand.
And if we do that, the price of oil will go down.
Chavez will get less money even if he sells a bunch of oil.
And so will Iran, so will some of other countries that are not so friendly toward us.
But that's the long-term solution.
And that is the point that needs to be made over and over and over again.
All these Democrats in Congress who are afraid of drilling for more oil, who definitely just want us to return to the Stone Age or whatever it is they want to do, and then they drive off in their SUVs.
I have a solar plant on top of my house.
I run my electricity with solar.
I don't participate in a lot of this stuff.
I am making my choices.
I am making my investments in alternative energy.
I'm doing it because I think it's right to do for me.
And the thing that needs to be done is that as a policy, this government needs to drill and drill and drill like crazy while at the same time allowing the free market to offer consumers like me the choice.
I mean, right now I'm sort of hunting around for because I live in a little community where I can drive a little electric car if I want.
I'd like to have one, not because it's going to be good for the open road and long trips, but because if I go down to the grocery store, there's no reason to flame up the SUV.
We could get a nice little electric car.
My little solar plant could charge it up during the day and run on the battery, and I'm perfect.
You know what I mean?
All right, Hubert.
Thank you.
All right.
Thanks for the call.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, and I believe we're in break.
I'll be right back after this.
I have to admit, I do watch the British newspapers.
Sometimes they have more about American politics than you get in American press reports.
Some of the early Clinton stuff was British newspapers broke at first.
Here's the Guardian today from the UK.
This is really different than anything I've seen in the American press.
Let me just read this to you.
President George Bush has told senior advisors that the U.S. and its allies must make a, quote, last big push, unquote, to win the war in Iraq, and then instead of beginning a troop withdrawal next year, he may increase U.S. forces by up to 20,000 soldiers.
That's astonishing enough, but wait to hear this next paragraph.
Mr. Bush's refusal to give ground, coming in the teeth of growing calls in the U.S. and Britain for a radical rethink or a swift exit, is having a decisive impact on the policy review being conducted by the Iraq study group, chaired by Bush family loyalist James Baker.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
I thought Baker was sent in by Papa to tell Junior what was going to happen to clean up the mess here.
I mean, that was the liberal press take.
Remember all that last week?
That the Iraq study group, including former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, and I don't know what in her background would lead you to believe she'd have an expertise on war making.
I don't know.
But she's on the group.
And it was billed as Bush 41 coming to the rescue of beleaguered Bush 43.
His son had just mucked everything up, and it was time to get in there and clean it up.
Wait a minute.
The Guardian is reporting that Bush's refusal to give ground, his call for a last big push to win the war, is having a, quote, decisive impact on the Iraq study group chaired by family loyalist James Baker.
In other words, Bush 43 is having the impact on the study group rather than the other way around, which is the way it was billed in the American media.
And exactly, interestingly enough, what McCain is saying.
McCain, in the Abbasid hearing yesterday in the Armed Forces Committee of the Senate, McCain said that it's time to put more troops in and win the war.
And I don't know whether McCain and Bush are coordinating this thing, but it is interesting that both of them are saying the same thing.
It puts, and it's interesting because he is positioning, McCain is positioning himself as Mr. Conservative.
He's looking around saying, well, if Rudy Giuliani is my primary opponent in the 2008 race for president, which, as I've told my local audience, started the day after this last election.
If Rudy Giuliani is my chief opponent, then I can afford to go away conservative because he's pro-abortion, pro-all this New York liberal stuff.
That's a no-brainer.
I'm now Mr. Conservative because we need, you know, well, we need stricter fiscal conservatism and we need border control and we need, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
So now he's saying what we need also is not only restrained spending and smaller government and lower taxes, family values, but we need more troops in Iraq to win the war.
You know what?
I don't care how these guys arrive at the right conclusion.
I just care that they arrive at the right conclusion.
When the job is whatever it is, and Abizade, I got the impression that he's saying, look, the job is three-fifths done here.
It's maybe three-quarters done, but it's more done than not done.
Hang in there, expect the best, work for the best, work with this elected government, and we will win.
Now, is he right?
I don't know.
But does it sound better than let's just get the hell out of there and see what happens next?
Because I can predict to you without knowing a whole lot and having never been there that that doesn't sound like a recipe for other than chaos.
Now, let's see what you think.
Roger Hedgecock, in for Rush Limbaugh, taking your calls.
Here's Ken in Fergus Falls, Minnesota.
Hi, Ken.
Hey, Roger.
Glad to hear from you.
Say a little take on the old John Kerry quote about going to college and studying well.
He actually should have said if you go to college and you study hard, but you don't do well, you might get stuck in a union job.
If you drop out of high school or you finish high school and you don't do very well and you're not very competitive, you could just get stuck in a dead-end union job.
Roger, that's.
No, I don't think we're going to hear that from Kerry, although it's closer to the mark, although it's wide to the mark as well.
But it's closer to the mark than his stupid comment about people getting stuck in Iraq.
I mean, every day since then, on my local show, I've been reading people who have gone through combat training, who've gone through various boot camps, who've gone through various service, you know, entering the service, who are recent graduates of high school here in the San Diego area.
So, yeah, I agree with you, Ken.
You know, when you look around, who are the people who are really creating the 21st century America?
Are they people in union jobs?
Are the union job people creating the 21st century America?
Well, some of them must be because I'm one of them.
I belong to a union, American Federation of Television and Radio Announcers.
But are they in the mainstream of people who are creating America's tomorrow or trying to keep our past?
Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh Program.
Roger Hedgecock filling in for Rush.
And this from the New York Times.
Texas lawmakers put new focus on illegal immigration.
Here's the initial.
Wow, this is kind of eye-opening.
In a sign of rising passions over immigration issues, Texas lawmakers prepared for the 2007 session this week by filing a flurry of bills that would deny public assistance and other benefits to children of illegal immigrants.
Tax money transfers to Mexico and the rest of Latin America and sued the federal government for the cost of state border control.
What they're responding to in Texas has already happened many years ago here in California.
And if you are not up to speed, you should know a couple of the statistics.
This from the federal government.
66 percent of the births in California are from illegal alien mothers paid for by Medicaid by the government.
40 percent, I think I said 60 earlier in the program.
Okay, now I have it in front of me.
It's 40.
40 percent of all workers, all workers in L.A. County, L.A., 10, 11 million people, something like that in L.A. County.
40%, says the L.A. Times, are working for cash and not paying taxes.
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
75% of the people on the most wanted list in L.A. are illegal aliens.
25% of the inmates in our detention centers in California are Mexican nationals here illegally.
300,000 estimated L.A. County residents are illegals living in garages.
FBI reports half of all gang members in L.A. are most likely, as it says, illegal aliens from south of the border.
Nearly 60% of all occupants in HUD properties, these are rent assistance properties, are illegally in the country.
L.A. County, again, with a 10 or 11 million people, about 6 million speak English, about 4 million speak Spanish.
Less than 2 percent of all the illegals in the country are picking crops.
29 percent are on welfare.
So when you are talking in your neighborhood saying, this isn't a problem, I don't have a problem with this.
These people are just hardworking.
When you're buying all of that nonsense, just keep in mind that you too someday will be California, and maybe it'll be next week.
A real problem for us out here.
We have just about lost the state.
Now, in that same regard, President Vincente Fox's spokesman last week after the election said that gains by Democrats in the U.S. Congress will help promote more liberal immigration policies and that the Democratic Congress would scrap the border fence.
Well, sure enough, Benny Thompson, a Democrat from Mississippi, told reporters this week he expects to revisit this border fence, 700-mile border fence issue, which was authorized by Congress in recent months, when he, Benny Thompson, becomes chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee.
The House Homeland Security Committee, he says that a high-technology secure border initiative is enough.
It's a viable alternative.
A virtual fence, he says, rather than a real one.
Well, Benny, I'll believe, may I call you Benny?
I'll believe in a virtual security of my country when you have a virtual security of your House office building.
As of right now, you don't.
You have guys with guns, you have metal detectors, you have physical searches, you have law enforcement officers apprehending visitors to your office building one by one to make sure they're not a threat to you.
I think we ought to put up some sensors there in the marble floors, some cameras, and some guys who may or may not be looking at the monitors to see whether or not people look suspicious or not.
If that's the kind of virtual security you think works at the border, then why don't you first do it in your own house office building in Washington, D.C.
Then I'll believe you.
Until then, you're just an open border lying sack of manure.
Frederick, in West Palm Beach, Florida, I feel so much better having said that.
Frederick, go ahead.
You're on the rush show.
Roger, I was having a terrible day, and everything has turned around in a matter of a half an hour, and you're one of those things.
I actually got through for the first time, and I'd actually rather talk to you than to rush.
And I'm pleased to talk to you.
But I wanted to call you to say I've been doing a business here, antique restoration, and in Boca Raton and Palm Beach area for about 12 years.
And I wanted to ask you, how do I stay competitive by hiring illegal aliens or lowering my prices?
Because my rent just went up.
So you've got to cut prices somewhere.
Well, why should I cut prices if what I offer?
You have to cut costs, I meant.
Yes, sir.
Yes.
If I allowed you to stay competitive.
Yeah.
Well, are your competitors, do your competitors have lower rent?
I'm not sure.
I can't speak to that, but I do know that I've seen a very dramatic change in the Boca Raton area, especially.
Because maybe you need to go to a lower rent area.
Yeah, but why should I be a refugee in my own city?
Well, no, moving to a lower rent area is not being a refugee.
It's being competitive.
In other words, you have to make your own decisions as a business person as to what you want to charge for your service, what you want to include in your costs, how you want to lower those costs.
I mean, I'm assuming that as a good capitalist, you're trying to lower your costs all the time, and you're trying to increase your quality, and you're trying to increase your marketing, and you're trying to increase your prices so you can make some more money.
Right.
Yeah, that's true.
And I believe, and I love capitalism.
I love being competitive.
But when I drive through a very lucrative area, a very opulent little enclave, one of these gated communities, and I look around and I see that the contractors I used to see, their trucks have been replaced with trucks that I'm not sure if they should be on the roads.
Some of them are pretty shoddy looking.
And I'm just wondering if those workers have been replaced here, how to stay competitive.
I'm asking you, I think you're a brilliant man, and I think moving out to a lower rent area, is that what you're suggesting?
Well, at least for the work you're doing, I don't know.
Because you started out by saying your rent had been raised, and that's why I was receiving it.
Yes, it had.
It had been raised.
And also, the taxes have gone up because I wouldn't go to the hospital here, really.
I wouldn't recommend it.
I'm right across from Palm Beach, and I'm just curious because I know I don't believe, and if you won't mind me saying, I don't believe that people are coming here to take jobs that Americans are unwilling to do.
I'm certainly willing to do that, and I think there are a lot of people who are willing to do electrical contracting, plumbing, painting, furniture refinishing.
So let me just ask you then, Frederick, is your congressman in favor of the border fence and border security?
I haven't heard him say much about that.
Maybe you ought to write him a letter because you ought to tell him what your situation is.
You're in a situation where you're feeling.
I'm hearing you say I'm fearful that illegals are going to run me out of business.
I believe so, Roger.
And these aren't people just from Mexico.
They're from Haiti, from Jamaica, from Dominica.
They're from everywhere.
Yeah, but they can do furniture like you can.
Oh, Roger, you're kind.
Actually, I'm not sure.
I think they're very good and they learn quickly.
And when they work for contractors here, they learn a skill from them, and then they open up their own businesses.
So I'd say they can do a job if they're shown how to do it.
I offer excellent service.
And I'll tell you what, Frederick, I just built a house, and I went through all this, and I always opted for the person that could give me the best service and that was legally in the country.
And maybe that cost me more money, but it's something that you're going to have to have to meet that competition because your government, your president, your elected officials have allowed millions and millions of people to come to this country illegally and to participate in America without going through the front door.
They came in the back door.
They didn't do it legally like all of our ancestors did.
I'm in favor of immigration.
I'm not in favor of illegal immigration because I've seen the cascade, the waterfall of illegality that falls from it.
So I don't know, Frederick, all I can tell you is good luck because we've had furniture manufacturers moving out of L.A. for the last 25 years.
They're all in Tijuana.
They're all in Tijuana because that's where they can get good workers at lower wages to be competitive because otherwise they just would have been driven out of business.
Well, maybe you can hook me up with Rush.
He lives over in Palm Beach, and I'm sure he needs a good guy like me on the bank.
Maybe he needs somebody to get at his antiques and fix them up, Frederick.
All right, buddy, I appreciate the call.
Go ahead.
Sure.
Yeah, go ahead.
I was going to say, can I say hello to my brother Justin in Atlanta?
You just did.
I appreciate your call.
We're in a break.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, filling in for Rush.
Back after this.
This is bad news indeed, but news that will recommit you to what is right about our economy.
Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman has apparently died at the age of 94.
The Wall Street Journal reporting on their website, citing an official at the Cato Institute in Washington, Milton Friedman, a professor at the University of Chicago from 1946 until 1976, awarded the Nobel Peace, Nobel, not peace, but economics prize, Nobel Prize in Economics in 1976.
And probably with his wife and a number of other thinkers in the economics field responsible for Ronald Reagan and the belief that free markets and free people are always to be trusted, always to be trusted.
Ronald Reagan was not a protectionist, was not an isolationist.
Ronald Reagan was a free trader.
You believe in free trade, and you are a real conservative.
If you're going to be a protectionist, then you're something else, but you're not the conservative Ronald Reagan was.
Oh, and by the way, just in case you think that the new Democrats are different from the old Democrats, let me just not only remind you: the Sons of the Sixties are in charge in the House of Representatives, but they all came out of one campaign, 1972 presidential campaign for George McGovern, and they all still believe what McGovern's radio ad said in 1972,
which I just where did we get this?
I haven't forgotten.
We got this out of some archive, listening to these old ads.
This is the McGovern campaign radio ad from 1972: food-fu-peace versus death squads, military cuts versus deficits, home mortgages versus tax breaks for fat cats, social security versus insecurity, college loans versus B1s, compassion versus indifference, a nuclear freeze versus space boys, negotiation versus name-calling, coexistence versus noexistence.
Who says George can't win?
Are you kidding?
They still believe every one of those things, no matter what the experience of the last 35 years has told them, is wrong about every one of those things.
Here's Mark in Omaha, Nebraska.
Mark, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Hi.
I just wanted to comment on Frederick down in Florida.
You know, if he advertised the fact that he doesn't use illegal aliens for labor, there's a lot of us out there that are looking for people just to avoid that to do our work.
You think people ought to just advertise?
I don't use illegals.
Right.
Just put it on his flyers that he sends out or whatever.
There is no illegal labor involved in my work or our work.
You know, around here, we're so politically correct out here.
I do occasionally hear people say, all of our folks speak English or something like that.
That's kind of code words for no illegals.
But, you know, I mean, I think that's right.
If he's feeling like his competition is coming from people illegally in the country, then he ought to go straight after it.
I agree.
And people like us out here that want people like him to do our work without benefiting the illegal aliens in this country, we'd go for it.
Yeah, I agree.
That's a good one.
All right, thanks.
I appreciate that, Mark.
Here's Lisa in Orange County, California.
Hi, Lisa.
Hi, Roger.
I'm so glad to talk to you.
I love when you fill in for Rush.
Thank you.
You put a smile on my face this morning while I was folding my laundry about that comment about Nancy Pelosi, the Abu Ghraib comment about what's considered a date in San Francisco.
I thought that was hilarious.
Anyway, my comment is regarding the pressure the Democrats have always been putting on Bush and the administration to have an exit strategy for the war on terror.
Yes.
But as I think about that, I am reminded of the war that the left waged several decades ago on the war on poverty.
And I, you know, where's the exit strategy for that?
Or the war on obesity or the war on racism.
I'd like to put the pressure on them to meet in their back rooms and come up with an exit strategy for those wars.
Well, you know, I would do that, Lisa, except then the Democrats would turn around and say, okay, what's your plan?
Well, because my exit strategy on the war on poverty was to get a better job.
I had my personal exit strategy for that.
Well, exactly.
But, you know, when you consider all the comments you've made so far about the economy and the strength of the economy and so forth, and it's just very frustrating.
And they seem to own these causes, and yet nothing's done.
Well, the war on drugs, for example, there's one I'd like to have an exit strategy out of two.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and it has never made a lot of sense to me, the way we're doing it.
It just grows the size of government, and of course, government never does the job quite correctly, and we have an eternal war we're spending billions on.
But you're right.
I mean, and Nixon, going back to Nixon, the war on cancer, good grief.
Remember that one?
I mean, there was a, you know, most people listening don't.
But, you know, the truth is that they've had all these wars.
War on poverty, war on this, war on that.
I'm kind of tired of the war rhetoric to start with.
We have a problem.
We ought to solve it.
In the old days, it was solved, and then we moved on to some other issue.
We didn't have an eternal reason to grow the size, cost, and intrusiveness of government, which is what all this is about.
Well, I thoroughly enjoy you, Roger.
I think you're just an awesome fill-in for Rush.
Oh, I appreciate that.
Lisa, thanks for listening to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Let's see, let's take a break, and we'll come back with a wrap-up here in this hour.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, In for Rush, taking your calls at 1-800-282-2882 after this.
On a personal note, let me congratulate my friend Ward Connerly.
In Michigan, in this last election, yes, there's still election returns to discuss.
In Michigan, 58%, 58% voted yes on the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative.
This closely tracking California's Prop 209, Proposition 209 from 1996, also led by Mr. Connerly, amends the Michigan Constitution to ban public institutions from using affirmative action programs that give preferential treatment to groups or individuals based on their race, gender, color, ethnicity, or national origin for public employment, education, or contracting purposes.
In other words, we're going to actually have civil rights.
Race neutral.
Color of skin doesn't count.
Okay?
In other words, the dream of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., carried out by Ward Connery.
And I know the affirmative action institutionalized folks just hate this.
They hate the fact that real civil rights is really color neutral.
58% of Michigan voters said yes.
It's a wonderful thing.
In London, they're saying no to the early festive Christmas season lights because, good grief, do you know that if the lights were kept on for 59 shopping days in London alone, 80 tons of carbon would be released into the atmosphere?
Ladies and gentlemen, Thanksgiving is coming up and the holidays.
Rush will be back tomorrow.
This is my last chance to say how grateful and thankful I am as an American to be living in this country, to have these opportunities, to be able to say these things freely and debate these issues freely.
It is not something that most of humankind has ever had the ultimate responsibility and opportunity to do.