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Nov. 16, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 16, 2006, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
And welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program and to the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
We today have a lot to do.
So ladies and gentlemen, buckle up, get the pink liquid nearby, and let's get to it.
I am, well, first of all, not in line for a PlayStation, although someone can send me one, you know, if they want to.
Anyway, uh, we are also uh in line, waiting for the results they're just in from the uh House Democrat uh leadership fight, you will recall, background here, uh Nancy Pelosi in line to be the first woman speaker of the House of Representatives, third in line to the President of the United States, President, Vice President, then Speaker of the House, uh has been elected unanimously by the incoming Congress for a term starting in January as the Speaker of the House.
The big news was what was going to happen to second in command in the House Democrats.
That uh Nancy Pelosi sent out a letter uh a couple of days ago to uh and uh went one-on-one with the new members of the House, some of the old ones as well, to convince them that John Murtha of Pennsylvania, the uh famous uh anti-Iraq war uh veteran.
Oh, John Mertha would be a an excellent uh second in command.
In fact, uh Mirtha was on uh was it hardball yesterday when he said this.
We're gonna win.
We got the votes.
We got the votes.
Well, not not to maybe yesterday he had the votes when he said that.
Today the vote was 149 to 86 for Stenny Hoyer, who had been the number two when the Democrats were in the minority, to prevail over John Mirtha, 149-86 Stenny Hoyer of Maryland over John Mirtha.
Kind of an interesting cross current here because Hoyer's a traditional liberal, been in the House since 1981, uh famously in opposition to everything Ronald Reagan stood for, and uh a Maryland liberal.
Uh Mertha, uh, aside from being anti-Iraq war, was sort of one of the bridges to the blue dogs, uh pro uh life uh in a lot of respects, uh not uh for gun control, etc.
etc.
So Mertha out, uh Stenny Hoyer in over Pelosi's wishes.
This the first test of her leadership, she failed.
Uh but she will recover because the media will not paint it that way.
Uh Pelosi has had some difficulties.
You understand she represents a district in California, in in specifically San Francisco.
And she's had some difficulties communicating the Democrat line in San Francisco.
You'd think it would be easy.
But it's not.
It's not easy.
For example, for example, you remember Abu Ghab, the big uh scandal over the prison in Iraq.
And the pictures that came out of torture, torture that occurred there at Abu Ghraib, Abu Ghrab.
Uh, this uh uh including pictures of uh of a of a naked man on all fours uh being led around by a uh a dog leash.
Torture by the Bush administration.
Bad as Saddam.
There was some confusion in San Francisco.
Uh uh, let me delicately put this.
Uh for some San Franciscans, leading a naked man around on a dog leash is called a date.
Uh it's not it's not torture.
So this is you know she's had some interpretation issues in her district with regard to uh getting across the Democrat point of view, but I think uh this one is gonna be tough for her to overcome.
She went out on a limb for uh John Mirtha after accepting Stanny Hoyer as her number two for many, many years, and uh it did not work.
Uh again, 149 to 86.
Although they have not broken the up yet, that's the word we're getting.
Uh the they're still behind closed doors, so we don't know what was said.
There'll be more coming out on that.
George Bush is in the Far East, reassuring our allies that he is still the president.
He's got to overcome more than you think.
It's not just the Democrats, it's not just the war, it's not just the media, it's not just academia.
Now it's voodoo.
A renowned black magic practitioner in Indonesia, which is the world's most populous Muslim country.
However, they still have many animist pagan folks there.
Um a renowned black magic practitioner by the name of I've been dying to say this name all day, Kinjendeng Pamunkas, uh performed a voodoo ritual.
How'd you like that?
Uh Voodoo Ritual Thursday to jinx President George W. Bush at his entourage.
What he wanted to do would be to send spirits to possess the Secret Service personnel, he said, guarding Bush, leave them in a trance, which would lead them to falsely think the president was under attack, and then that would cause chaos in the Bogor Presidential Palace in um Indonesia in Jakarta, where the uh our president was scheduled to meet uh the Indonesian president.
Here's another great name, Susalo Bangbang Yudhoyono.
And those uh two presidents were gonna get together.
So the black magic practitioner performing the vo now wait a minute, this would never fly in the United States.
I mean, aside from all of our renowned First Amendment freedom of religion stuff.
Uh the animal rights people just couldn't possibly stand for this.
I mean, it's one thing to have animals killed in scientific research and so forth.
Listen to this.
Kigendang Pamungas, in the the ritual uh consisted of slitting the throat of a goat, a small snake, and stabbing a black crow in the chest, stirring their blood all together with spice and broccoli, then drinking the potion and smearing some of it on his face.
So there you go.
Um Bush is up against a lot of obstacles in this world.
Uh there's another one.
Now this I predicted and everybody else did because I mean I have no idea about it, but I've been reading a lot about it because it's become such a big political issue, and I'm talking about stem cells.
Stem cells.
This out of New York, AP reporting and promising new research, stem cells worked remarkably well at easing symptoms of muscular dystrophy in dogs.
An experiment that experts call a significant step toward treating people.
And here's the muscular dystrophy association being quoted as saying that this result is one of the most exciting that they've ever seen.
Two dogs severely disabled by the disease were able to walk faster and even jump after the treatments.
Um, this is why this story falls flat.
It will not be on the front page of your paper.
Because the stem cells in question were not embryonic stem cells again.
Again, there's been a stem cell, and this is not the first one, there's been many.
There have been many.
Uh stem cells uh useful to dogs and humans that have not been taken from embryos.
Because to this moment, ladies and gentlemen, correct me if I'm wrong, please by calling us, there has not been an application of a stem cell from an embryo that has benefited dogs, humans, voodoo practitioners, or anyone else.
So no stem cell re uh research here has from embryos has resulted in anything.
Stem cells, however, in this case taken from the affected dogs themselves, um, the so-called adult stem cells have been useful and have provided medical breakthroughs for this next century of uh of medicine.
And it didn't take a lot of federal dollars to do it.
1-800-600, uh no, one where am I on these numbers here?
I don't see it up there.
Anyway, um we don't have the number written down.
You guys write the number down on the screen, and then I'll be able to tell people how to call this program.
I'm Roger Hitchcock filling in for Rush Limbaugh, and uh getting to this again back to this Pelosi uh Democrat leadership uh fight.
It is uh it is going to be interesting to see because yesterday, on the Iraq thing, Abizade, General Abizade, testifies to the Senate, and it becomes a complete stand-up for the different candidates for president, the different points of view to be railed at him.
Basically, what did he say?
Stay the course.
I uh I I don't know whether he used those words, but that was basically it.
Well, with a little wrinkle.
He said, Yeah, we don't need more troops, that was what McCain was arguing.
We don't need fewer troops, that's uh Levin and Kennedy and and all that.
Uh we don't need a cut and run.
We don't need More troops.
What we need are more troops that are going to embed and train and stand up the Iraqi brigades.
Well, that's what they've been doing.
So far we see a lot of violence.
So far, we see uh many of the provinces uh that it has worked, most of the ones where the media lives, like Baghdad, it has not.
So uh is this going to work?
Well, Abzate said, yeah, it is.
So we'll have more on that uh hearing as well.
Um, here's the phone number.
One here it is one eight hundred two eight two two eight eighty two.
You think I'd understand this by now.
How many times have I filled in for Rush?
1800-282-2882.
All right, let's take some of those calls.
Here's uh Jim in Kansas City, Missouri on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi, Jim.
Hi, Roger.
Just wanted to ask a question.
I heard John Kerry say, I have a plan so many times.
What I want to know is what is the Democratic plan?
What is the plan for the Democrats?
I think that's a good question.
You're asking me what it is.
You're asking me.
I don't know what it is.
Every time I listen to one of these guys is different.
Uh Carl Levin yesterday said uh four to six uh months.
Uh Kerry has said that as well.
Just redeploy, meaning uh leave.
Uh there's not uh there's not there's not a plan that you can call a Democrat plan because as a matter of fact, as a mainline liberal, Stenny Hoyer, who just won this election over Pelosi's objections over Pelosi's candidate,
uh Stanny Hoyer, the number two in the House for the Democrats, has said leaving, redeploying, whatever you want to call it, in any kind of near-term number of months would leave chaos and a certain civil war and the certainty of increasing the power of Iran in the area, something we're not exactly keen on doing, uh no matter what your party affiliation.
So this is you know, there is no Democrat plan.
This is one of the great breakthroughs of uh of the American public to understand that after the election, it became clear, it became clear, number one, that there were as many corrupt Democrats as there were uh corrupt uh culture of corruption Republicans.
Number two, that while nobody was very happy about the progress in the Iraq War, the Democrats didn't have a better idea how to prosecute it either.
That those two things hidden from us by the media for a large measure, except for programs like this, uh, seems to me to be still the order of the day.
Here we are uh nearing Thanksgiving.
Democrats have won.
With what?
I mean, your point's well taken.
There is no plan.
All right, let's take a break.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, in for Rush Limbaugh, back with your calls right after this.
Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh Program.
Uh Roger Hedgecock filling in for Rush here from the lovely uh San Diego, California on the left coast, and uh at Radio Station KO G O. Uh one place where the new spirit of bipartisanship, which I gave about a 12-second uh lifespan uh back on the day after the uh election, it seems to be at least sustaining itself with respect to the two senators from Nevada.
You'll recall that uh Harry Reed is now the uh majority leader elect in the uh Senate.
He is one of the senators from the state of Nevada.
The other is a Republican, John Ensign, and sign.
Is it in sign?
Ensign.
Ensign.
Uh and the two of them uh were uh uh meeting the other day.
Reporters caught up with them.
And Reed said, I have to quote this now.
Reed said of his uh of his fellow uh senator from Nevada, John Ensign, he's a Republican, I'm a Democrat.
We work together on issues that are important to the state of Nevada, and I wish other people had the same non-aggression pact that we have.
He said, however, it's not a broke back mountain situation.
I'm certainly glad we clarified how far this non-aggression pact goes, just how far this bipartisanship goes.
He definitely wanted to define it in a way that did not include uh going as far as say Barney Frank or somebody like that.
All right, back to the phones.
Rick in uh Hamilton, Wyoming.
Hi, Rick, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Uh yeah, uh it's Montana.
Montana Yeah.
Uh anyway, when uh the race was getting close between uh John Tester and Conrad Burns.
Uh the Democratic uh leadership offered the Montana people that if we would vote for Tester, uh he would be uh awarded the seat on the appropriations committee that Conrad Burns held.
And um so Tester uh barely won, but uh I think a lot of us Montana folks were thinking that uh we would still get uh our seat on the appropriations committee, no matter what happened.
And so Tester won, and it was all over the papers uh yesterday that he will not be offered what he was promised a seat on the appropriations committee.
And that was a lot of money that was coming to Montana because of what Conrad Burns uh fought for, and now we've lost that also.
So it was a promise that they've already backed out on, didn't take them long.
Well, I think they've got a problem with Tester because uh as I understand, and I'm not in the state and you are, so tell me if I'm wrong, uh, as I understand it, this guy is a regular uh farm guy, and while he may be uh in some cases with the Democrats, in some cases he's not going to be too comfortable with the eastern big city liberal type Democrats on some of these issues.
Do you get that feeling?
I yeah, I agree.
I think I think he's gonna be I mean, he is he's from our state.
He's he's grown up here, and I think he's kind of he's not gonna go straight down party lines.
I think he's gonna weigh his own you know decisions and make those appropriate decisions that's gonna benefit our state.
And but I and I think I think that's gonna be true on every I think he's gonna weigh every decision on what he feels our state's gonna uh need or want.
But I guess my biggest concern was uh creation you fight for those spots.
Yeah.
Well, uh he's uh welcome to Washington.
You know, if Mr. Smith goes to Washington or Mr. Farmer goes to Washington, well, Rick, it's uh, you know, welcome to Washington.
We got you in, and now you'll do what you're told.
Yeah, that's exactly right, you know, and and I think it's it's just too bad that uh I guess my biggest concern was the Democrats will say whatever it takes, do whatever it takes to get our people in there, and then and then slam the door on whatever promises they might have made.
Hope people are paying attention to that in Montana today, Rick.
Thanks for the call.
Well, uh ladies and gentlemen, Walmart, in its war, Walmart's war to defeat inflation.
Walmart has done more to defeat inflation than any government official, any government policy, any congressional legislation at all.
Walmart has defeated inflation in the United States.
It is a uh private sector contracting out of the war on inflation, and Walmart took it up and did it.
They have added eleven more states, including Massachusetts, by the way, to uh bring the total to thirty-eight states where they are selling certain generic prescription drugs for four dollars.
Now I don't know whether this still means that we have to have Hillary care to force the farm uh bad pharmaceutical companies to give us uh uh affordable prescriptions, or whether we can go through all that, or whether we'll just contract it out to Walmart.
Let them do it.
Because at four dollars, I don't know how much lower it's gonna get here.
The cut rate uh price uh for drugs is now available in three thousand pharmacies in Walmart in thirty-eight states.
The list of generics includes some hundred and forty-three compounds, represents more than one-fourth of the prescriptions dispensed in its pharmacies nationwide.
Walmart on a tear to bring down uh inflation.
As a matter of fact, they have uh said to Wall Street, uh we may lose profit in the fourth quarter.
We don't care.
We're cutting prices on everything toys, electronics, everything going into the holiday season, we're going to cut prices.
Now, maybe it's just that some people don't like lower prices unless government mandates them in the public good, and then you feel like, oh, this is good.
Government has stepped in again to help me, help me when I'm helpless and a victim and oppressed.
Uh or you can just say, uh, you know what, if you let the private sector be the private sector, competition will give me give you will give you greater choice, higher quality, lower price.
My goodness.
Well, uh they don't back that in uh Mexico, where a new anti-Walmart crusade is underway to stop the building of stores that would bring Mexican consumers more choice, lower prices and higher quality.
Apparently they have enough low low prices and high quality and choice in Mexico.
Not.
So uh Walmart is attempting to get into that market as well.
They have uh huge uh stores there, but now they're being uh uh the American labor unions are putting money into anti-Walmart groups in Mexico.
Good grief.
Hey, as long as the election is over and we can now tell the truth about what's going on in the world, you know, the real world.
Can we tell the truth about how good the economy is?
Is that okay yet?
Because uh but before the election, you couldn't get a word in the uh papers about how good the economy was going, because, of course, it might rebound to the benefit of the Republicans.
Well, good grief.
There's so much good news coming out about the economy, it's hard to bottle it up even before an election.
But now, coming up after an election, we'll get to talking about how good that economy is and taking your calls too.
I'm Roger Hedgecock in for Rush.
Phone number 1800-282-2882, and we'll be back with more from the Limbaugh Institute right after this.
Apparently they won't come out.
I mean, the Democrats are behind closed doors here.
They've taken the vote uh 149 to 86 to elect Stenny Hoyer the number two in the House of Representatives over John Mertha in a widely watched uh test of the leadership of Speaker-elect uh Nancy Pelosi.
She was unanimously elected as the first woman speaker of the House and third in line to the presidency uh after the president and vice president.
Now they're behind closed doors.
I guess they're trying to figure out what do we say now.
Because of course, it looks like a defeat.
Right out of the box.
I mean, the first thing uh Nancy Pelosi does as Speaker elect is say, okay, here's the guy I want as my number two, and the House Democrat caucus says no.
So what I guess they're behind now they're gonna just barricade themselves in there, I guess.
That's that's it.
Well, in the meantime, again, the plethora, the tsunami of good news about our economy continues.
And uh well, okay, a couple uh that it is it is now impossible to cover up that the Bush economy is that not only the best economy we've ever had in this country, it's the best economy that human beings have ever had on this planet.
In terms of the greatest number of people benefiting in the greatest number of ways from this national economy.
I get this all the time from Democrats.
Well, but there's two Americas.
This is like uh Senator Edwards.
The the rich Americans and the poor Americans.
Well, poor Americans.
The bottom 50 percent of earners in the United States paid three percent of the income tax last year.
The top one percent paid sixteen percent of the income tax.
You want a progressive tax rate?
We've got it.
In the last twelve months, real average hourly earnings have risen two point eight percent.
Real average hourly earnings.
That means, you know, above all that stuff.
The average earnings are going up, not down.
Energy prices, we all know fell seven percent just in October.
Core inflation is the smallest gain in thirteen months last month.
The smallest gain in thirteen months.
Inflation is going down.
Wages are going up.
This is not bad news.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have to reprogram you.
If you've been reading the drive-by media or anything before uh other than this program, before uh the election, then you still believe, this is uh this is an obsolete thought now, that we are in the worst economy since the Great Depression.
No, uh let's erase that.
Uh reboot, and here's the new information.
It's the best economy in the history of the world.
See, now that George Bush can't get the credit for it, it doesn't matter.
And the Democrats have defeated the Republicans, we can actually tell the truth here.
And as a matter of fact, of course the Democrats will tell you it's all because of Bill Clinton.
I'm sure they'll I'm sure we'll hear that sooner rather than later.
All right, callers uh to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Andy in Auburn Hills.
Uh Andy, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Hi, Roger.
Hey, I'm calling in response to the the earlier caller, I believe he is from Montana.
With regard to Burns and Yeah, yeah.
And uh I found it interesting.
Tester.
Yeah.
Yeah, I found it interesting that uh ostensibly Republican if I understood his position, ostensibly Republican voters could be persuaded to vote Democratic if they were promised a seat at the table to continue suckling at the teeth of the federal government.
Well, he didn't put it quite that way.
No, a seat on the appropriations committee is a big deal in the Senate, uh, as everyone knows.
And uh I don't know that uh Burns got so much I don't know we could point to uh any anything like the uh kind of pork brought home by um by uh the former Klansman who represents uh West Virginia, for example, with regard to pork, but uh but you know it's uh appropriations committee is a big deal, and if the Democrats did promise that, then obviously they swayed some people.
Yeah, well, I tell you what, Roger.
I um my representative in the House is Joe Nolenberg, and he's a subcommittee appropriations chairman uh and I voted against him because he's been spending and continues he and his his Republican cronies in this last Congress were spending like drunken sailors.
And I thought they needed a board across the head, and so I held my nose and voted for his opponent who came darn close to to beating them.
And who would have been better on spending?
No, no, but the Republicans needed a board across the head.
So you're an irrational moderate voter.
Thank you, Andy, for the call.
I appreciate it.
Let's go to Joe in Poughkeepsie, New York.
Joe, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi, Roger.
Uh Roger, I tell you why one of the reasons Republicans lost, and I am believe me, I'm not a Democrat, and I'm anything, I'm probably right of you on most issues.
One, he's outsourcing, okay.
Well, wait, wait, who is who is a very good thing?
Whoa, whoa, quote the back.
No, no, Joe, hold on.
No, no.
Who is outsourcing?
He's outsourcing.
Who are you talking about?
I'm talking about the fact that so many good manufacturing jobs, especially in the heartland of America, have been outsourced to third world countries, okay, and good paying jobs have been replaced by lower paying jobs.
Okay.
On top of that, to add insult to injury, illegal aliens have come into these areas and even further lowered American wages, okay?
That's the kind of stuff that defeated the Republicans.
All right.
And if you guys can't understand it, you'll probably defeated again.
Well, Joe, first of all, number one is a lie.
Uh if you look at the actual wages, not just in Poughkeepsie and some areas that have been happening.
See, I'm talking about the Midwest.
Okay, well, let's talk about the Midwest, Joe.
And I'm talking about Western New York.
Joe, listen to some facts.
You're engaged, you're engaged in your emotions, and I appreciate that, but listen to some facts.
What is the unemployment rate in Pennsylvania?
I'm not talking about the unemployment rate.
I'm talking about the kind of jobs, okay.
You've got two.
What is the average income 2025 30% of the year?
What is the average income dollar an hour Walmart in Pennsylvania?
Huh?
What is the average income in Pennsylvania?
I'm not even sure.
Has it gone up or down?
It's gone down when you consider what these manufacturing jobs have left.
Believe me, I'm not sure.
So I want you to call back when you have some facts.
I appreciate the call to the program, but uh we've got to have we've got to have facts.
I you know, the the fact is in Pennsylvania, I don't have the numbers in front of me.
I would be willing to bet, call me if I'm wrong, that the average income in Pennsylvania is up in the last four years.
I would be willing to bet that the unemployment rate in Pennsylvania or the Midwest or ever did any place else you want to look at, the unemployment rate is down.
And down substantially.
Now, obviously, jobs have gone to Mexico, to the Far East.
We're importing a lot more than we're exporting.
Obviously, old-time jobs have gone away.
Sometimes it means that we've gotten stronger in those job areas.
The steel industry is better off because it's more mechanized and there are fewer people working in it, for example.
We're actually competitive in the United States with some kinds of steel, as I understand it, because we have automated, because we have reduced the number of jobs, because we are now competitive in the world market.
Now, are we competitive in cars?
Nope.
Partially because these companies thought they could have three retired workers for every one worker actually building a car.
Uh it's that's not going to work.
Okay?
So there are some things that aren't going to work that need to be changed.
But are we net losing money in terms of the jobs paying less than the old jobs we lost?
No.
Are we uh experiencing fewer jobs because of the old jobs that we lost to foreign competitors?
No.
Now, you know, I mean, you could I I just like to see you back some of this emotion, and I appreciate the emotion.
With fact.
All right, here's John in Topeka, Kansas.
John, welcome to the Rush Rush program.
Hey, Roger, John Cooney, good to talk to you and piggyback on that last caller.
I I don't have all the high tech statistics that you may want.
But first, my comment is that George Bush has done more damage to conservatism than anyone in the last 40 years on virtually every issue, and the conservatives were rookied into backing him, and then when that satanic was sinking, they stayed with them, and that is what hurt conservatism.
Hopefully in 2008, Republicans andor conservatives will get a little more populist feel about protectionism, our jobs, putting tariffs up to keep our corporations back in the United States, like Pat Buchanan has said.
Uh whether it's pro-life, not getting burned by Harriet Myers, which George Bush tried to do fool me once, shame on me.
You know the old saying, or the other way around.
Um so, Roger, I am a proud protectionist.
In Topeka, Kansas, we have Goodyear plant on strike right now across the whole country, they are on strike.
We're gonna replace that $25 an hour job with a you put the sneaker in the box, pay less shoe source type uh job, or we're gonna all wind up working on restaurants.
You're gonna say, well, go and get a computer job or computer skill.
The nature of computers is to do more with less people.
We need those manufacturing jobs.
The Democrats are understanding this, and they're gonna co-opt conservatives in 2008, unless we get a true conservative to run for president.
Okay, John, uh, a true conservative is a free trade conservative.
And let me tell you why.
Uh and I had a personal, I'll take my personal experience over your personal experience, John, and let's talk about it.
In uh 15 years ago, maybe sixteen years ago, General Dynamics uh conveyor, one of the one of the big employers in San Diego at some point in time, uh, World War II and thereafter, the biggest employer, manufactured planes, manufactured plane parts, aircraft machining, big time jobs, uh very, very well paid jobs, lots of people.
My father worked there, lots of people I knew when I grew up worked there.
It was uh it was the industrial mainstay, packed up and left town in uh I don't know, eight eighty-nine, ninety, somewhere in that range.
Everybody was just crying and wailing and whining that this was the end, we were never going to be able to replace those jobs.
What we didn't see coming was the rise of the biomed uh phenomenon out of UCSD, the University of California at San Diego.
We didn't see coming Qualcomm and the rise of the technical people that came out of UCSD and started companies.
We didn't see the incubator effect of our investment in that university, which has generated hundreds of companies, tens of thousands of jobs, nearly I would say more than half of which pay more than Convair ever paid, even adjusted for inflation.
So it is I I've already had this experience that if you trust private enterprise, if you trust the free market, the free market will deliver uh jobs that uh that you never dreamed of that weren't even I mean, 15 years ago there wasn't I don't know, fifteen maybe sixteen years ago, there wasn't even a Qualcomm.
There wasn't even a lot of this biomed stuff going on.
This was all been created by the investment we've made at the University of California, and it has created uh an economy that in San Diego has boomed beyond our wildest imagination.
Now I want to come back, John, and get your rebuttal to that after we take this break on the rush program.
I'm Roger Hedcock back at you.
All right, it was a love fest out there with that uh press conference.
There was Pelosi and uh Stenny Hoyer, and they were hugging like uh well uh well uh I don't know, they're gonna have to go to that broke back mountain line.
Uh Stanny Hoyer next door, but Mirtha in the back.
And uh big defeat for uh Pelosi in trying to get Mertha to be number two.
Stanny Hoare has been working in the House since 1981, uh not about to be shoved aside in this situation.
Interesting uh fallout from this as we uh track it today on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Roger Hedgecock sitting in for rush.
Uh all right, John and Topeka, there's my story.
Hey, Roger, thanks for letting me hold.
That's refreshing, let me tell you.
First of all, not every place in the country is Silicon Valley.
We live out here in the heartland of the country.
Let me roll here for a minute.
Look, we've lost three to four million manufacturing jobs, which we're gonna need if we ever really go to a full-scale war with whoever, whether it's China or whoever.
We're gonna need those manufacturing jobs.
Second of all, you've got close, close to a billion people in South America, let's just say Mexico, a billion people in India, a billion people in China.
These corporations who built in America, who built themselves on the backs of your dad and my dad in hardworking Americans for 30 or 40 years had a commitment, a moral commitment.
You work for me and I'll take care of you, and we'll both grow.
We'll both raise that ship together.
They're now saying we need an extra penny or an extra dollar profit or $100,000 or a million dollars, and they're going south of the border.
The other countries have billions of people they can throw at this free trade for the next 40 years.
It's a lose-lose-lose situation for America, except for the elite upper rich.
I hate to sound that way, but it's the whole it is the truth.
All right.
Well, uh now, John, let me just uh ask you to calm down and think about facts here.
Well, be angry.
No, no, no, no, John, John, John, no, John, it's not time to be angry.
It's time to understand that what you're saying is complete bunk.
Well, if it's a free market, no, John, John, let me give you a.
Are you willing to listen to facts or not?
Yeah, but if I can rebut, I'd love to re-butt.
Well, see, you re-but with emotion.
Now I'm going to.
The two truths can exist.
I can be emotional and tell them the truth.
Look, look, you're not telling the truth.
Let me give you some facts.
All right.
The fact of the matter is there are more.
I'll go slow here, John.
There are more manufacturing jobs in the United States of America today than there were 10 years ago.
What kind of jobs?
What kind of pain is it?
John, you're s John, don't sound like the AFL CIO.
The fact is that the average job, the average wage is up, not down.
It's up in this country.
The number of manufacturing jobs is up.
Have they moved around?
Yes.
Are they different than they were?
Yes.
Are companies going out of business and coming back into business?
Yes.
Are companies going overseas?
Are some companies coming here?
Do you know how many foreign manufacturers have plants in the United States making cars and every kind of electronic gadget that you buy?
They are foreign companies here creating American jobs.
Yeah, that's what scares me if we ever go to war.
Why can't we have American companies?
Let me take it one.
Let me take it one.
No, no, because you're getting crazy on me.
Well, then let me repeat.
Calm down.
No, calm down.
Calm down.
All right.
Are you ready now?
Yeah, go ahead.
All right.
Now, John.
If in fact the United States as a whole, now maybe not in Kansas, and you're going through your own difficult thing.
I understand that.
No, no, no.
We did that too.
I felt very badly about San Diego.
I felt very badly about our situation.
But we weren't Silicon Valley.
We didn't have infrastructure for this stuff.
We we got it because we went out and we sought it.
We went out and invested in the university.
We went out and attracted these companies.
We didn't sit on our butt and blame companies for moving to uh and by the way, why is there a strike, John, at the Goodyear Company?
Is it because the unions want to uh squeeze another little bit of blood out of that turnout?
No, no, no, no, no.
Now you're talking about and I'm not a you I'm not a good year worker, I'm a painter sitting in a house painting a house right now, by the way, with seven little girls at home that I have to see, which my wages keep getting depressed by illegal aliens, and the good year workers who can't hire me to paint the inside of their houses anymore because they're on strike because their company wants to take away the health care benefits and lower their wages from $25 an hour to $15 an hour for the new workers that are coming in.
It's pressuring lower, spiraling lower, and you guys are out of touch like Rush with reality.
Take off the rose-colored glasses.
I'm emotional.
No, John of touch.
You are mouthing, and I by the way, I bought all this.
Everything you're saying, I bought it in 1992, back when we had this problem in San Diego.
I bought it from Ross Perot, who said the giant sucking sound would be all those jobs on the money going to Mexico.
You know what?
They were wrong as can be, John.
I and I know you'll never do it because I can tell by the emotion in your voice that you're simply convinced you're right.
Uh but I want you to step out into the open air, stop breathing the paint fumes, and listen for a minute to the facts.
The facts are we have more manufacturing jobs today than we had ten years ago in this country.
We have more foreign investment of foreign plants in this country than we have plants leaving this country.
We have more jobs being created every day than anybody ever thought possible, and the wage rate is going up.
If your wage rate is going up, it is not my problem, John.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, filling in for Rush, coming back after this.
Roger Hedgecock back uh with uh the Rush Limbaugh program here.
And look, this is a great, great opportunity in this call, the last two calls we've had to get back into this topic because look, we fell for this with Perot, a lot of us, and I had to apologize on this program and others nationally uh for uh being the uh uh well I I took it personally that I uh well allowed Bill Clinton to be president of the United States by falling for this protectionist uh nonsense before.
It is not globalization that's our problem.
It's the ch the challenge is change.
And more of that coming up.
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