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Nov. 14, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 14, 2006, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Huh.
Interesting.
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Look at this.
Look at this headline here.
Cross-dressers mace mall customers.
Now, I'm not sure where this is from.
I have the website here.
It's someplace in Ridgeland, North Park, Madison County.
I have no clue.
I mean, there's how many North Parks do you think there are in the county?
How many Madison counties?
Now, Madison County, that could be Iowa?
Illinois.
Anyway, it doesn't matter where it is.
It could be anywhere in America, ladies and gentlemen.
Could be anywhere.
Could be your mall.
So listen up.
11 people are in custody after a mace attack at North Park Mall Monday evening.
Shoppers were overcome by the mace fumes.
Several were taken to area hospitals, including a six-month-old baby.
The attack was unprovoked.
North Park shoppers and mall employees were caught off guard.
17-year-old Anna Mabry has asthma, and she says it was frightening.
She can't understand why anyone would use mace on innocent people.
Well, Anna, let me help you out.
You don't have the right to ask that question unless you have used mace on innocent people.
And until you have, you have no right to question why these people did it.
Sergeant Tony Willridge of the Ridgeland Police Department, wherever this is, says that they got the call around 6.20 Monday evening.
Says it didn't take long for officers to round up the 11 suspects, all of whom were cross-dressing black men between 18 and 25 years old.
Walridge says police are investigating to find out where the group got the mace.
Witnesses tell us at least 10 people were given oxygen outside the mall.
They're going to be transferred to the Madison County.
It could be Wisconsin.
Hell, this could be anywhere.
That's the point.
No one's safe.
You could be maced at your mall, and you have no right to question it unless you have used mace on people.
And don't forget that.
Incumbent Republican Deborah Price leads Democrat challenger Mary Joe Kilroy by 3,536 votes.
This is the Ohio 15th congressional district, still not called yet, because there are more than 10,000 provisional ballots left to be counted.
And one of the reasons why, if I remember this writing, I read this yesterday, one of the reasons why they haven't counted the ballots yet is because the Ohio State Michigan game is this weekend, and they don't want anything getting away of that.
I'm not kidding.
It may not be this race, but there are others, and I know it could well be this one.
They're going to wait till after the big game on Saturday and then count the votes.
There are 70,000 or I'm sorry, 10,000 provisional ballots left to be counted, according to the Columbus Dispatch, which says that the Mary Joe Kilroy campaign is still hard at work.
The paper reports that Kilroy's campaign called about 70,000 voters last weekend and aired television and radio ads asking people who cast provisional ballots to contact the campaign and the county boards of elections to make sure their votes in the 15th congressional district are counted.
According to the article, 95% of the people who voted provisionally in Franklin County were able to provide a social security card or driver's license number that can be used to establish residency.
Now, what this means is that Mary Joe Kilroy will need 70% of these 10,000 votes.
So she'll need 7,000 of these votes to overcome the 3,536 vote lead of Deborah Price.
Now, if the counting of these ballots gets the race down to within 1,050 voters, if Price's lead shrinks to that, it will trigger a mandatory recount in all three counties which comprise the district.
But it's just funny.
It's just typical of the Democrat just refusing to take this.
Get on TV, spend more campaign money, get 70,000 of your people to call the places and demand their votes be counted, as though there's some kind of fraud here.
So whenever the Democrats lose, there's always the allegation of fraud.
When Republicans lose, it's okay, we lost.
And they start beating themselves up over why.
From the rising cost of retiree health care to the advantages a weak yen gives the Japanese, the heads of the big three U.S. automakers will press for more recognition for their issues when they take their seats in the White House today across from President Bush.
Recognition is something industry executives say has been lacking from the president.
They'll also attempt to draw distinctions between themselves and the foreign automakers whose U.S. branches generate record profits, but they will make clear they're not looking for a bailout.
Well, I don't know.
When you hear the rest of this, you may have to redefine bailout.
The General Motors Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said that the meeting should enhance the president's understanding of the importance of the domestic auto industry to the economic health of the United States.
The Ford CEO, Alan Malali or Malally, has said of the meeting with Bush, what I'm looking forward to is just sharing with him the state of our industry and also talking about competitiveness going forward.
All sides expect no firm commitments from the scheduled 45-meeting minute session, which will include the Treasury Secretary, Henry Paulson.
The Washington Post version of this story has these guys then talking to the Democrats.
Allies of the American auto industry are set to challenge the Bush administration to level a playing field for U.S. lawmakers.
Go on to say that, well, an administration official said there's not been evidence of Japanese intervention in currency markets since March of 2004.
There is zero correlation between the yen's strength and Detroit's slide in profitability and U.S. market share, said an administration official, who, of course, spoke on condition of anonymity because he isn't authorized to speak publicly on those issues.
In the past year, Detroit automakers have steadily tried to raise alarms in Washington about the industry's deterioration.
They've been calling for more federal incentives to increase the number of alternative fuel stations, the cutting of tariffs on steel imports, and government initiatives to curb the escalating cost of health care.
Now, what do you think that means?
What do you think that means?
Curb the escalating cost of health care, government initiatives to curb the.
Let me tell you something.
This is the only reason that they are meeting up there.
And I'm going to make a prediction.
We are hearing, ladies and gentlemen, the Democrats are all over the board now.
Hillary got it started.
Other Democrats are picking it up.
They want the government to negotiate prices for drugs for Medicare recipients.
That essentially is price controls.
That is government control.
That is socialized medicine.
It's one of the blanks of it anyway, one of the legs of the stool that need to be built in order for there to be a full-fledged government-run healthcare system.
And I would bet you, and I don't know this, I'm just going to roll the dice.
I would bet you that the big three automakers would be all for nationalized health care to eliminate their burden.
This article states that health care costs are anywhere between $900 and $1,500 per car to cover the health care of every employee.
Plus, they pay people who are not working for them anymore.
They cover their health care.
They cover their pensions.
I mean, they're paying people who are no longer productive.
They made the deals to do it, but now I won't be surprised if before all this is said and done, the big three automakers, because they say that that's one of the big competitive problems they have with the Japanese.
The Japanese government pays health care for all of its citizens.
The auto companies do not have to, therefore, build that into the price of their cars so they can build cheaper cars and sometimes significantly so.
It's just a matter of who's going to be paying and whose profit and loss sheet gets impacted by this.
The federal governments or the automakers.
But the story refers to these great capitalists, these automaker guys heading up to Washington.
And I know what they want.
What they want is national health care.
They want national health care so they can offload their massive health care contracts onto you and me and other taxpayers.
They want pension legislation that will offload their lucrative employee pensions on to the taxpayers.
This is what they want, folks.
Make no mistake about it.
You can sit there and poo-poo it, and you can say, here goes Limbaugh and doesn't know what he's talking about.
But I do in this case.
Well, I don't know.
Mr. Snerdley has just asked me if the costs for all the pensions they have to pay and all the health care they have to pay is the reason for their competitive disadvantage right now.
Is that the reason that the big three automakers are lagging behind Toyota and other Japanese manufacturers?
I don't know, Mr. Snerdley.
I've never been in the auto business, and as such, I don't think I have the right to comment on that point.
We'll be back.
Actually, Mr. Snerdley, the answer to your question is: why are the big three automakers in a competitive disadvantage situation with the Japanese automakers?
It's very, very clear.
None of the big three have advertised on this program.
When one of them takes the plunge, that company's problems will be over.
Until then, they will continue.
And there are other things.
And then, by the way, I would become an expert when they become sponsors.
Then I could weigh in on what's wrong with the big three automakers.
But according to the latest theory of the left, unless you've been it, done it, gotten it, had it, whatever, you can't talk about it.
What do you mean?
Of course, Snerdley's asking me if I feel like this is deja vu, because all these things we talked about are starting to recycle.
They always recycle.
That's one of the things that's always amazed me about American politics and so forth.
I mean, you go back, everybody says this election, you're comparing it to 86 and Reagan.
I think there's a better election to compare this to.
And that would be the 74 midterms after Watergate and Nixon.
Republicans lost everything.
The Republicans lost everything, and they said it was over forever for Republicans, as they always do.
And then who came out of the murk?
Who emerged from the primordial gunk?
In 1976, Ronald Reagan, campaigning for president, lost a nomination to Gerald R. Ford, but four years later, Democrats who?
Won in a landslide over Walter F. Mondal.
So I think the real election, because if they're saying corruption got the old bums thrown out of there, and if it was dissatisfaction and distrust and so whatever it was, compare this to the 74 midterms.
Now, the people don't because that was, of course, well, wait, was that a six-year-old Nixon 72, right?
That's when he was elected.
68 was embarrassed.
I'm having a mental block.
Well, even if it wasn't a six-year midterm, that's still the election to compare this one to, as far as I'm concerned.
It was much worse than, in fact, for Republicans.
And they still came back and was, of course, this is all deja vu.
That's why sometimes I wonder about the people of this country.
I mean, it's clear who liberals are.
Don't get me started.
I've got to go to the phones here.
There'll be a time and place for this.
Jen in Pittsburgh, you're up.
I'm glad you called.
Welcome to the program.
Hi, Rush.
What an honor to speak with you, sir.
Thank you very much.
You know, I have worn the bra and I've walked the walk.
I have a three and a half year old with a disability called Rhett Syndrome.
And, you know, I'm thoroughly convinced that some of these people just don't want to make sacrifices or have their life inconvenienced.
You know, they just don't have the capacity, I think, sometimes to look at people with disabilities as humans.
They're selfish.
They don't want to make the sacrifices in their life for a huge change and challenge, like raising a child with a disability.
Well, we wouldn't have a Stephen Hawking, for example, if we wouldn't.
We wouldn't, we would not have, it's silly.
When you start talking about this is all part of the, this is just an offshoot.
Back in the early days of this, in the mid to late 80s, one of the arguments that the pro-choicers used, would you want to bring a child into this poverty-stricken situation, into this family?
That's just not competitive.
Would you want to subject a child to these kinds of conditions?
And of course, that started me looking into all of the brainiacs and all of the highly achieved people who were born poor.
But to say that that's an excuse not to birth people or as an excuse to abort them, when they can't answer.
You know, they can't speak for themselves.
It's absurd.
The whole thing has been absurd.
And now it's it.
I spotted this trend early.
The decision on who lives and who dies based on the convenience to the living camouflaged by compassion.
We're only doing what they would want.
Yes.
You know, I almost think it's, I think about Hitler.
He was looking for the perfect race.
These people are doing the same thing.
They want to abort people because they're not the perfect race, but Rush, no child's perfect.
You know, I have a son who's 14 months, and, you know, he is perfectly fine, healthy, but, you know, I know that he's imperfect.
He's going to make mistakes, and nobody's perfect.
That's exactly right.
And you're a middle class, upper middle class.
What is your economic circumstance?
Yes, I'm middle class, and we took a big pay cut.
We made a huge change in our life whenever our daughter was diagnosed.
We both had been working.
We had a nice house, and we gave up everything.
He took a lower-paying job.
I stayed at home, lived with my in-laws for a few months before we got back.
Is that the happy child in the background?
That's actually her brother, but she's just as happy, and she's an angel.
She touches everybody who comes in contact with her.
Well, that's marvelous.
You know, don't worry about what other people do or don't do.
When you're doing the right thing, that's comfort enough.
Should be.
It is.
All right, Jen.
Thanks very much for the call.
Thank you, Rush.
Appreciate it.
Katie in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Rush, it is so amazing to talk to you.
I'm going to faint.
I won't do that, I promise.
I'm not usually nervous, but I have a magic wand.
I can grant you the power to be able to speak about this subject because I am a mother with a child with disabilities and Down syndrome and other disabilities as well.
So, you now have the authority to speak on it.
Thank you.
My point was I kind of resent the notion that you have to be going through it or be a parent of somebody with disabilities in order to be able to speak about it or have an opinion because that presumes that there's no absolute or objective truth about the dignity of the human person.
Let me exactly write.
Let me tell you why it is.
And by the way, if you're just joining us about an hour ago, we were discussing latest genetics research and discoveries in Great Britain.
It's something I predicted many, many years ago, like 14 or 15 years ago.
You're going to be able to go to the doctor, doctor's going to be able to run some tests, tell you your kid's going to have freckles, prone to overweight, maybe some red hair.
I don't want that kind.
I wouldn't want to do that to a child.
And they've been able to screen over 200 diseases and disabilities.
And I have a quote from a mother who allowed her embryo to be aborted, child to be aborted because of what she was told diseases that the child might get.
And she said, until you have been in the situation where you've had to care for a disabled and diseased child, you have no right to comment on it.
And I said, this is typical.
We just went through a campaign in this country where that was one of the central themes.
We went through it in 2002 or 2004 with Christopher Reeve.
We would keep going through this.
The reason they say that, Katie, is because they know what they're doing is wrong and they feel guilty about it and they don't want to be reminded.
So they just don't want to hear anything that will make them feel uncomfortable and increase their guilt.
It's a form of censorship in a way, and it's a form of speech suppression, but it's all based on these people who they know what they're doing and they don't feel right about it.
So they want to sound as though they're really magnanimous and really smarter than the rest of it.
They don't want to hear anybody who disagrees.
Just make them feel worse.
Katie, hang on.
Don't go away here.
All right, we go back to Katie and Ann Arbor.
I asked you to hold on because I wasn't sure that you got to finish what you wanted to say, and I didn't want to rudely disconnect you there when I had so usurped so much of your precious time by explaining your question.
Well, you're very generous.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
The other part of this was, you know, if there's an absolute dignity to a human person, you know, you have to have your convictions of what's true before you're in the middle of the situation.
When my husband and I found out, we knew about 22 weeks that our daughter had a severe cardiac defect and a high likelihood of Down syndrome.
We knew about 50-50 chance of Down syndrome, which is very high.
It was devastating.
We have three other very healthy children, and we were just blindsided by it.
And What was so upsetting was, well, what's ahead?
What am I going to have to do?
How is our life going to change?
What are our sacrifices?
But that didn't really matter.
I mean, yeah, that was the emotion of the moment, but we don't make decisions based on that.
You make decisions based on this is our daughter, and we're going to take care of her and do whatever we need to do.
And she's been through two open-heart surgeries.
She eats entirely, pretty much, very little orally, mostly with a feeding tube.
She just had eye and ear surgery yesterday, and she will likely have another heart surgery.
It's amazing they can do these things.
How old is your daughter?
She's 14 months.
She's 14 months.
Wow.
What's the prognosis?
Well, there's two parts of it.
With this particular cardiac defect, she has.
Kids who don't have Down syndrome right now, with the surgeries that are now available, and just by chance, we happen to live in the city where more of these surgeries are done than anywhere else in the world.
So we were very lucky to be close to the world experts on this.
But they're only kids around now who are teenagers.
15 years ago, all they would have been able to say is, we're sorry, and she would have died.
So the prognosis for these kids looks pretty good, but they don't have any who are grown adults.
Do they need heart transplants later?
She has basically only half of a heart, so they have to rework the whole plumbing of her heart.
And that's in a three-stage reconstruction process.
So, you know, long term, we don't know even for healthy kids who don't have the Down syndrome.
On the Down syndrome side of things, cardiac defects are pretty common for kids with Down syndrome.
And nobody's willing to give us a number.
We want to be prepared, but we've sort of been told, well, enjoy her while you have her and think more short term.
Her health has been good, but we just don't know how long her heart's going to last her.
But her life is valuable to us, and she's part of our family.
And you make the sacrifices, our life has changed tremendously.
And she's going to grow older, and you're going to be able to communicate and have a relationship with her.
Right, but have a relationship with her already.
You know, and she's delayed.
She's developmentally delayed, motor-wise, and cognitively.
Hopefully, having her eyes and ears fixed is going to help some of that along.
But, you know, she's a person.
And she was a person in the womb.
And we loved her then, and we love her in the womb, out of the womb.
But to make decisions based on, oh, how hard is this?
That's not, it doesn't matter how hard it is.
You have to do what's right because there are certain absolute truths.
If it's a human being, it's a human being.
You can't say, well, because it's disabled, it's not a human being.
It's a frog.
We can throw it away.
So, and I think that's a good idea.
Here's the conflict on this for me.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
Don't misunderstand.
But we have these people who say, this disability, the possibility of this disease or whatever the genetic testing shows, indicates that this is just not worth a good quality of life.
And yet, there are certain people People that can't wait to use and exploit these people for all kinds of gain, political or financial or personal gain.
So the same people who are telling us, trying to convince us that it is compassionate to not give birth to these babies are the many times the same ones who then take them and exploit them and use them to point out how other people don't care about making them well.
Right.
And it just, I'll tell you, it infuriates me.
It insults me.
And when I hear people like you tell your story, it changes my whole perspective.
When I envision the country and I hear people talk about how rotten the times are when they do, when they talk about, even we had a good economy, some people portray it as soup line economy, how much misery there is out there.
And I think all of that is relative to what people's expectations are.
But the stories such as yours, to me, are on a par with people who join the military.
I mean, you're special people to do what you do.
And there are a lot of you who do it, but nobody talks about you.
Nobody knows what you're doing.
You're not doing it for fame.
You're not doing it for any kind of acclaim or to get notice.
You're doing it just because it's the right thing and you're accepting your responsibility.
And it moves me.
I think that it's people like you that make the country work.
You and your husband and all others like you who are now you're devoted to your principles.
You understand the responsibilities that you incurred and you accepted.
And more than that, you obviously, as you've expressed it, you have a profound reverence for the dignity of life.
Well, absolutely.
I'd like to comment on one thing you said there.
I've had some people say this to me even before my daughter was born.
It takes a special person to have a baby with Downs.
And I don't feel that special.
What I think extraordinary circumstances make people extraordinary.
I don't think that my husband or I were some great people and therefore we could take this on.
I think when you take things on because it's the right thing to do, you become a greater person.
There's a phrase.
On the philosophical side, I think people are missing something when they take what they think is the easy way out because they want to avoid the thing that's hard.
It's the hard thing that makes you extraordinary, not the easy thing.
Yeah, I look, this is purely anecdotal, and I'm sure that there are people who are going to be shouting at their radios when I say this.
But I have friends who have children with autism.
I know people who have kids with Down syndrome.
I've never heard one say, I wish I hadn't given birth to this child.
I've never heard, no, I'm sure there are people out there that have, but they don't say it publicly, but I've never heard it.
Just the contrary.
They talk about what their kids have taught them.
That's right.
How can I love better?
How can I sacrifice more?
That's what being a mother is.
And I have three other children, and I need to sacrifice for them, too, in their own ways.
And they're perfectly normal and healthy and delightful, too.
And what are they going to learn because of this sister who has difficulties?
Exactly.
It's going to make them better people.
And I just don't see a downside to it.
It's a sacrifice.
But, you know, anything in life that's worth doing requires sacrifice, personal sacrifice.
Whether you want to be an athlete, whether you want to be great in your career, whether you just want to be the best spouse and parent you can be, it requires sacrifice.
Well, nothing that's worth it is easy.
And I mean, being a parent of a normal child has all kinds of challenges and problems that you have to deal with.
I mean, this is just a different set that you have.
But there's a phrase.
You talked about how you and your husband don't think you're anything special.
The phrase, and I've always used it to describe the possibilities because of the freedom we have in this country and the prosperity, and who it is that's made the country great.
Ordinary people doing extraordinary things is what has defined the greatness of the country.
Greatness is assigned after the fact, and it's based on achievement and accomplishment.
I don't know too many great people who had that as their ambition when they were in high school.
I want to be great.
It just happens to those who have something else as their objective.
And so it could be said someday of you and your husband that you were great people.
But that's not what you're trying to do here.
Would you want to do the right thing and live life the right way?
Precisely.
Well, I'm glad you held on through the break.
This has been most enlightening.
You have a wonderful Thanksgiving and Christmas season, okay?
Well, you too, Rush.
Thank you so much.
Okay, Katie, we'll take a brief time.
She's calling from Ann Arbor, by the way, if you're wondering.
She said she lives where some experts on all this are close by, Ann Arbor, Michigan.
We'll be back in just a second.
Stay with us.
While we are close to the subject, I have a couple stories here in the stack of stuff.
And this is from ABC News using the body's own stem cells to grow new arteries.
Blocked arteries are dangerous wherever they occur.
And if you get a blockage in your legs, they can cause excruciating pain, and walking can be difficult.
Now, there's a new treatment that allows patients to grow new healthy blood vessels to improve circulation.
What's hard work for most of us is the good life for Tom Reynolds.
Life on the farm became difficult last year.
Anyway, he had peripheral vascular disease where the arteries supplying blood to his legs became blocked.
Left untreated, gangrene can occur.
Dr. Arshed Kuyumi, the cardiologist, said it can be pretty devastating.
The options are very limited.
This is how amputations occur.
But then Tom found out about a study on a new option, a growth factor called GMCSF.
When injected into patients, it stimulates bone marrow to release stem cells.
These are adult stem cells we're talking about in one's own body, helping one's own body form new arteries.
Dr. Arshed Kuyumi, a cardiologist, the implications I think are very exciting because one way we think that cardiovascular disease progression can be impeded and even reversed is by improving your blood vessel function.
That means fewer heart attacks, strokes, and amputations.
Nothing to say here about what you eat.
Just says, inject this stuff in there, and your own adult stem cells can create new arteries in your own body.
So we do not have to abort babies to accomplish this, ladies and gentlemen.
Study results showed patients' blood vessel function improved by up to 60%.
They were also able to exercise longer without pain.
Larger studies are needed before this treatment would become widely used.
And then this, this is from India.
What's the website here?
It's an Indian newspaper.
Now vision is possible with adult stem cells.
Cautioning that stem cells could not do magic, Dr. Tannin said the treatment's expensive, requires follow-ups.
The decision on whether to operate or not is a very sensitive one, and stem cell transplant should be used only after assessing the benefits.
In case one of the eyes is affected, then stem cells can be transferred from the healthy eye.
But when both the eyes are affected, stem cells from a relative, mostly mothers, are taken.
They can also be taken from a cadaver donor.
But she cautioned, no matter how hard we try, we can't match up to what God has given us naturally.
Now, I just mentioned this because here's another bit of research.
Adult stem cells are showing promise in restoring vision in people who have vision problems.
Folks, I just want you to know, I am balanced on that.
Every time I see one of these adult stem cell stories, I go to Google and I put in embryonics.
Now, I look for stories of the successes and the advancement.
And damn it, folks, there just aren't any.
I'm not leaving them out.
I just don't, I don't find them out there.
But I find all of this advancement, progress, excitement on the adult stem cell side.
John in Fort Myers, Florida.
Nice to, well, there's, John, hang on.
One thing, once they discover you can get stem cells from cadavers, none of us are safe.
Okay, John in Fort Myers, Florida.
Welcome to the EIB network, sir.
Well, thank you, Rush.
1951 dittoes.
Thank you.
Is that the year you're born, too?
Yes, sir.
So that means you're 55.
Yes, sir.
Born in September.
You're a little older than me.
Yeah, about nine months.
That means I'm smarter and wiser because I've lived longer.
That's right.
That's right.
That's what I keep telling my kids.
That's right, Rush.
Something that you were talking about really struck a nerve with me.
I was raised in Michigan.
Now I live in, I got smart and I live in Fort Myers, Florida.
But I was raised in Michigan.
And back, I remember back in the 60s when the auto industry was doing well, you had people with the union that made the auto industry give.
This is how the auto industry got all the benefits.
The union made them give the profit back to the employee, which probably is a right thing.
My point on that is now that they're doing bad, don't you think that the employees should give some of that back to the employees?
Oh, come on.
See, John, this is where being nine months younger than I put you at a distinct disadvantage.
You obviously have failed to comprehend and understand the purpose of an automobile manufacturing company.
It is to provide jobs and health care and pensions for people in the neighborhood who sometimes show up and work, but it is not to build cars.
The purpose of any company is to provide jobs, health care, pensions, 401ks for employees.
And whether the company earns a profit or not, that's not the employee's problem.
If the company can't turn a profit, remember, that's not the purpose.
The purpose of the company is to provide money, benefits, salary, wages, social security contributions, FICA 401k.
Until you learn that, none of this is going to be clear to you.
I have to tell you, folks, my world is upside down here.
So much of what I thought was true, I am discovering to be wrong.
For instance, I visited a website called religionandspirituality.com and I found this little blurb.
Al-Qaeda rips first U.S. Muslim congressman.
Now, that would be Keith Ellison, a Minneapolis, Minnesota Democrat, first U.S. Muslim congressman.
But at this website, I hear that jihadist, jihadist chat rooms are trash talking to guy.
They're really ripping al-Qaeda, ripping one of its own, ripping Keith Ellison, the first Muslim congressman in United States history.
He won with 56% of the vote.
And since his victory, at least two radical Islamic chat rooms have dissed him, as among other things, the first Jewish Muslim that goes to Congress.
This also was in the New York Daily News yesterday.
Muslim pundits have said that his election was just a comedy, labeled him a fool for trying to deceive us, other Muslims and al-Qaeda.
According to the SITE Institute, a terrorism investigative group.
One chat room called Al-Hizbah is solid ties to Osama bin Laden stated, he's one of them.
He's a one-way ticket to hell.
Another posting said, my God, if you have one billion Muslims like him, we'll continue to fight you as the Muslim fights the infidel.
Geez, folks, I thought that by electing a Muslim to Congress in Minnesota, that the terrorists would suddenly fall in love with us and understand that we were, well, we mean them no harm.
You couple this with the Iraq study group.
We're going to yank ourselves out of there.
We're going to have the Iranians and the Syrians negotiate peace while the Iranians are getting close to having a nuke weapon.
We'll get the North Koreans involved in all this.
I thought doing all of this was supposed to show them that we mean them no harm, that we accept them, and that we even want them among us.
But now we elect.
Well, we did.
Up there in that district of Minnesota, they elect the first Muslim, and now the guy's being trashed by al-Qaeda.
My world is upside down, ladies and gentlemen.
No matter.
See, I've always believed just reach out to your enemies and show them the hand of friendship and tell them you mean them no harm, that we can all embrace Sing Kumbaya and live happily ever after.
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