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Oct. 17, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 17, 2006, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
And greetings to you, thrill seekers, music lovers, conversationalists all across the fruited plain America's anchorman, Rush Limbaugh on the air.
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All right, let's um let's start off here with the wrist slap that Lynn Stewart got yesterday from a Clinton-appointed federal judge.
It's not just the judge in this case, though, who uh who needs to be examined.
Uh this sentence, Lynn Stewart represented a blind shake, uh Omar Abdel Rachman.
She violated canons of legal ethics by he he is uh as as part of his sentence, he is not allowed to communicate with any of his terrorist buddies.
She, his lawyer, did it for him.
She could have received up to 30 years in jail, but she gets 28 months.
She's going to appeal that.
She'll remain out, I think, on appeal.
Uh and depending on which judge in court she gets on the appeal, she could have the whole thing um uh stricken.
Uh it was a very interesting case presented by by her defense.
Hey, she she's helped the poor.
I mean, you gotta you you gotta examine this woman's life in Toto.
She she she helped the poor, and she's had breast cancer, and she is overweight.
And that means that she's more prone to producing more estrogen.
That means the breast cancer could come back.
And it's harder to detect breast cancer in uh in overweight women.
And the judge said, Yeah, you know what?
I kind of like those arguments and uh and and decided on 28 months.
Uh the lesson there is is that if you do good works earlier in your life and end up before Clinton appointed federal judge and you are a Democrat, the good works early in your life uh will mitigate crimes that you commit later on in life.
But the aside from looking at the judge, and and the judge is a is uh we've got his pedigree here someplace.
What did I be straight out of the Clinton Central casting?
Uh his name is John George Codle.
Uh he was nominated by Clinton on April 26th of 1994, confirmed by the Senate in August of 1994.
It's amazing how fast uh that uh Clinton appointees were confirmed to the uh to the federal bench back in uh 1994.
Republicans were uh had to not take it over the house, but that wouldn't have mattered anyway.
Senate is where these things are decided.
Uh he received his commission on August 10th of 1994, went to Georgetown University for his A. B, got his JD in law at Harvard.
Uh he was a law clerk for Justice Potter Stewart, the Supreme Court, assistant special prosecutor, Watergate Special Prosecution Force, uh 1973 to 1974 private practice in New York from 75 to uh to 94.
However, uh the judge is only part of the equation here.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Uh the thing that that stood out for me is that what we have in this sentence of 28 months of helping a terrorist communicate to his buddies, you could you could assume that these communications between Omar Abdelrahman, facilitated by his attorney Lynn Stewart to his buddies, led to the deaths of more people.
Uh in uh full light, what we have here is a classic illustration of the Clinton administration record on terror.
And it is well worth dwelling on and and uh and delving into.
If the Clintons ever win the White House again, if Hillary wins in 08, there's a woman involved in this case that might end up being a candidate for attorney general or nominated for a judgeship herself.
Her name is Joanne Harris.
Joanne Harris was one of the uh people uh who came to uh the court yesterday to argue in defense of Lynn Stewart and on behalf of a of a reduced sentence for her.
Um The uh the Times, the New York Times did not opt to quote from a letter submitted to the sentencing judge on Stewart's behalf from Joanne Harris.
Joanne Harris was the Clinton Justice Department's criminal division chief at the time the blind shake was indicted.
The indictment, by the way, came in 1993, not as uh the Times reported in 1994.
And uh the Times also said that uh Joanne Harris authorized the indictment.
Uh she didn't.
The indictment was actually authorized by the Attorney General Janet El Reno and the Manhattan U.S. attorney Mary Joe White, and my source for this is Andy McCarthy, National Review Online, who led the prosecution of the Bryan shake.
Now, according according to the article, Joanne Harris told the judge that the terrorism counts against Lynn Stewart were unwarranted overkill.
She reportedly elaborated that Lynn Stewart didn't have a clue that the stick she was poking in the government's eye was going to have consequences beyond her imagination.
Now, counterterrorism, and I'm reading here from a piece written by Andy McCarthy.
Counterterrorism, of course, remains the central national security issue as we head into the O6 elections, with 2008 choices hard upon us after that.
Thus, it is very much worth noting the stark contrasts here.
The Bush Justice Department strongly believed that Lynn Stewart's behavior warranted the strongest condemnation.
It's why they asked for a stiff sentence.
A jury of twelve New Yorkers, not exactly the Red State Heartland, unanimously agreed after hearing all the evidence.
Still, one of the highest Clinton Justice Department officials evidently thinks the whole thing was overkill.
But the contrast is starker still.
Recall that President Bush, through John Ashcroft, adopted a spit on the street approach to terrorism, authorizing success uh suspects to be locked up on any available legally valid charge in order to disable them and to convey to terrorist groups that we were pursuing them aggressively.
Compare President Clinton, who has spent a lot of time lately defending his national security record.
In 1999, he pardoned 16 members of the FALN terrorist organization, which, as Investors Business Daily editorialized last month, carried out more than 150 bombings in the U.S., including the lunchtime bombing of the Francis Tavern in New York on January 24th, 1975, that killed four people.
Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris has indicated this was done to help First Lady Hillary Clinton win the votes of Puerto Ricans in the anticipated New York Senate race.
January 20th, 2001, Clinton's very last acts in power included pardons for two convicted weather underground terrorists, Susan Rosenberg and Laura Sue Whitehorn.
Lynn Stewart is a figure who straddles the September 10th and September 11th worlds.
The divergent Clinton and Bush counter-terrorism models, as the lead up to her sentencing shows it matters a great deal which model we choose.
So, yeah, you can focus on the judge and and uh that's all well and good and it's expected of a Clinton-appointed federal judge who was on the Watergate committee.
It's why the argument over reorienting the entire judiciary, Supreme Court on down, has been such a uh uh a huge argument uh this year.
But don't forget the name of um uh the the uh former A. G. Joanne Harris, who argued on behalf of the most lenient sentence possible.
Because if the Clintons ever get back in power, somebody like Joanne Harris would instantly be an attorney general candidate or nominated for a judgeship.
And in this, in this ruling yesterday, this sentencing yesterday, as McCarthy writes, it is it is patently obvious the Democrat liberal view of terrorism and how to deal with it versus the uh the George W. Bush model.
And it's on full display and is an indication of how that war on terror will be fought in the future, depending on who's running the show.
Brief timeout will be back and continue right after this.
So any of you out there looking for a reason to hope that the Republicans lose control of the White House, the Senate, the House of Representatives, or whatever, just take a look at this uh this sentencing decision for uh for Lynn Stewart, uh, who is represented uh the dregs of society that actually worked in her favor.
She has represented all kinds of domestic terrorists, uh what, weather underground, black panthers, that sort of thing.
Uh and she's done so much work on behalf of the poor, and of course that that shows a big heart and good intentions.
You do that and you you uh you're buying yourself uh out of serious trouble later on.
It's almost uh crime insurance.
Uh and and that's that essentially what the judge in the case determined.
Uh so if if if you if you're of a mind that the war on terrorists trumped up doesn't really exist uh and and so forth, and you want to go back to fighting it uh in a in a in a in a lax way.
In fact, if you want to go back and pretend we're at September 10th, then go ahead and vote the Democrats into power.
Uh that is uh that is precisely what happened.
Speaking of all of this, uh we gotta go to the audio sound bites.
First, I want to take you back to July twenty-seventh this year, me on this program talking about winning in Iraq.
Of course, there's some unsettledness out there, there always is.
We are at war.
We are at war.
And and it's we're gonna be at war for a while, no matter who's in the White House, and we get a factor of that in who you're gonna vote for, because if we're gonna be at war, we want to win the wall.
Right.
We want to win the wall.
And so I I played that for you because uh last night, uh President Bush sat down for the first of a three-party with Bill O'Reilly on the Fox News channel, and a question from O'Reilly, 60% of Americans are now against the Iraq war.
Why?
Because they want us to win.
They're wondering whether or not we have the plans in place to win.
They want to know whether or not we have the flexibility on the ground to constantly meet the enemy.
And um I can understand why there's frustration.
Because the enemy knows that killing innocent people will create a sense of frustration.
And uh, they know that they know America.
They know that we're a conscious-driven people that value life.
And the more people they destroy, the more innocent lives that are destroyed, the more likely it is we'll retreat in their way of thinking.
And that's the bottom line.
People want to win.
That's the source of the frustration.
Uh people are being led to believe that we are not only not winning, uh, but that we can't.
In fact, let's jump forward to audio soundbite number six.
James Baker, uh, who has been misquoted, by the way, in media outlets, never said, has not said, that he doesn't think we can win in Iraq.
Uh it's been reported in certain places that he he's heading up a commission.
The president asked him to head up the commission, and it's been reported that he's out there saying we can't win, we got to come up with something else because victory here is not possible.
Uh, it caused a lot of people to raise a lot of hell when he when he said this.
It turns out that uh he hasn't said this, that this was some sort of a leak to uh uh ears and uh and and microphones that were receptive to believing such a thing.
He was on Matthew's show last night.
Question what do you make of the national intelligence estimate that we're creating more terrorists over there than we are killing?
The way I look at it, Chris, is even if Iraq was not the front line uh on in the war on terror when we went in there, it damn sure is today.
And if uh and the terrorists are there, and one of the difficult problems we have, people talk about getting out and all that, and as I've told you earlier, we have not we have not closed on any recommendation whatsoever.
But one of the problems in just picking up and leaving is you leave a failed state for uh the uh global terrorists to uh reproduce in, just like they did in Afghanistan with the Taliban.
That is a that is an excellent point.
I I uh hearken back to my uh uh trip to Afghanistan.
My gosh, that that's gonna be a year and a half ago.
It was a year and a half ago, it was a year ago, February, so uh, and and the uh head of U.S. uh aid um uh Andrew Natios uh was on the trip, and we went to dinner one night at the at the home of an American uh who is who lived there and was working to help the effort to rebuild the country and and uh bring back the Afghanistan economy and culture.
And he got a he got a brutal QA from some of the people there, and he said, Look, the the the reason we must stay, and the reason we must prevail is because terrorists thrive in places where there are no states, no governments, a stateless place, which is what Afghanistan was after their civil war.
Taliban was able to move in.
That is why Somalia is so important now.
Somalia is now stateless.
Al Qaeda attempted to take it over.
That's why Musharraf in Pakistan is uh is consistently under the gun just to stay alive.
He's probably the most targeted world leader out there right now, uh, from people in his own country.
Uh and and so Baker is saying here to just cut and run and get out of there, leaves that place as as a cesspool breeding ground for these people to take over and run operations out of uh out of that part of the of the uh of the world.
Uh and Bush is insistent that we have no intent to leave.
However, takes us back to the Lynn Stewart decision.
Depending on who ends up running this show, either in 06 or 08, uh the the the uh the approaches and the theories, the strategies in dealing with militant Al-Qaeda terrorists, militant Islamist terrorist, is on full display here,
and it is clear that the American left and the Democratic Party doesn't take the threat seriously at all, is not prepared to deal with it as something other than a nuisance that needs to be dealt with on an episode by episode basis.
Here's Peter in Staten Island.
We go to the phones early today.
Uh a lot of people want to weigh in on this Lynn Stewart business, and you're first.
Welcome.
Yes, Rush.
How are you doing?
It's a pleasure and honor to talk to you.
You're a great American.
And this is from a long haired Republican conservative.
Well, it's great to have you on the program, sir.
Thank you.
Yes.
I've been a long uh listener.
Uh this Lynn Stewart thing is like a slap in the face to all Americans.
Uh this was one of the most treasonous acts you could imagine.
I think she's a traitor.
Uh you know, you should make an real example out of this woman instead of afterwards.
She's talking about having a party and everything, or at least life imprisonment with no parole.
Well, she walked in there, she walked into the courtroom acting as though she were barely alive.
She walked in looking haggard, looking ragged, looking like she was in ill health, full of stress, wanted to be full of remorse, wanted the court to see her as a haggard old woman who has been worn down to the bare edges over all this.
And you're right, once the sentence came down to, oh, all right, let's throw a party.
Well, I could do this time standing on my head.
Yeah, well, like I said, I mean, uh Ethel Rosenberg was a good mother and stuff and everything left behind two sons.
We executed her many years ago and stuff for uh a treasonous act like that.
And like I said, uh, you know, this woman here with uh with her ways, her liberal ways and everything are just just disgust me to no end.
Well, uh I can I can understand that you're probably in the minority in New York, though.
Uh it may be close on this one, but I I still I don't think you know liberals in New York still don't get it.
I mean, they they don't like seeing the World Trend Trade Center video, and they they uh everybody had a conniption when Cory Lytle's accident happened.
Uh and everybody's first thought, oh no, is this a terrorist attack?
When it comes to doing something about it, though, uh just don't get much out of these people.
Uh now some of you may not even remember Lynn Stewart.
You may not even know uh who she is other than the is what you've seen in the news.
She represented Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh.
His plot was to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, and he was convicted of uh of having this plan.
His attorney, Lynn Stewart, was arrested six months after the 9-11 terrorist attacks and accused of violating strict prison rules by helping Abdel Rahman spread the word to kill those who didn't buy into his extreme interpretation of Islamic law.
She uh she's admitted to knowingly violating prison rules, but she denies condoning violence and claims that she was just trying to do her job as a lawyer by looking after Abdel Rahman's interests.
Now, the U.S. attorney in the case, the assistant uh U.S. attorney Andrew Denver refuted her defense that she was wrongly targeted by the feds in the wake of 9-11.
He said the case has nothing to do with 9-11, Your Honor.
She knew full well what she was doing was a criminal act, and she didn't want to be caught.
Now, when it came to Stewart, the judge said that uh prison time was necessary as punishment, but praised the longtime Civil rights lawyer for her dedication to her clients over the past three decades and noted that no one was hurt as the re as a result of the crimes in the case.
Um oh, okay.
Well, we can't even know that for sure.
We can't, we don't know what the messages that she translated and transferred uh transmitted from uh the Sheikh uh Rachman to his followers wherever.
We can't know what happened as a result of those of those messages, but it's uh clear leniency.
It's Lib deciding the fate of Lib.
Uh and it in it episode and the the case really is irrelevant.
The fact that it was about terrorism uh is not much and I'll tell you, folks, this is this is why it's dangerous this war on terror fought in court, because this is how a lot of these cases are going to end up.
Be back in just a second, right after this or roll right on.
By the way, about Lynn Stewart, it should be pointed out, ladies and gentlemen, that it was George Soros who poured millions of dollars into the effort to defeat the president who made a substantial donation to the defense fund for the radical lawyer Lynn Stewart.
Uh according to records filed by the IRS, Soros' Foundation, the Open Society Institute, gave 20 grand in September of 2002 to the Lynn Stewart uh defense committee.
So the lib's uh thick uh in all of this.
And it really it it there's no other way to describe this other than an outrage, especially when you compare it to some of the other things that are that are going on in um in the news today.
Like there what did I say there's something like six investigations, uh six FBI raids and investigations involving Kurt Weldon.
This is a two and a half year old investigation.
He finds out about it three and a half weeks out of the election.
This is the Bush Justice Department doing this.
We're going out of our way to destroy anybody we can over the Mark Foley episode.
Uh I there there's just a lot of head scratching stuff going on out there today, folks, that that uh that makes no sense.
And in the meantime, this sentence that Lynn Stewart gets is is an insult.
And you can tell by uh by her reaction to it that it was.
Now, the as part of the stark contrast is as to how the war on terror will be fought between uh these two competing parties, the Republicans and Democrats.
This morning at the White House, President Bush signed the uh Military Commissions Act, which is going to be challenged by liberals, and it will go to the Supreme Court.
Here's what the President said today.
This nation will call evil by its name.
We will answer brutal murder with patient justice.
Those who kill the innocent will be held to account.
With this bill, America reaffirms our determination to win the war on terror.
The passage of time will not dull our memory or sap our nerve.
We will fight this war with confidence and with clear purpose.
We will protect our country and our people.
And now, in memory of the victims of September the 11th.
It is my honor to sign the Military Commissions Act of 2006 into law.
Well, well, uh, after the signing, uh, Jeffrey Tubin, CNN said the bill's gonna come down to Justice Kennedy.
Uh, the uh anchor said to him, uh Supreme Court going to approve this, Jeffrey.
Senator Specter thinks that the courts are going to strike it down.
As for me, I don't know, but I'll be watching.
Just as Anthony Kennedy, it might all kind of come down on him.
As so often it will be the case in the new Supreme Court.
Justice Kennedy will hold the power.
All right.
This is a theme, by the way.
There have been a number of stories in the D.C. media, particularly the Washington Post, and I know how this works.
Praising Anthony Kennedy as having grown in office.
He's the moderate, and he's now the poor.
He's not power.
It's really the Kennedy court, not the Roberts Court.
And of course, these stories are meant to be read by Justice Kennedy.
And they are supposed to influence Justice Kennedy.
Yeah, it is my court, and I can keep getting this favorable uh uh coverage and and laudable praise if I continue to do what these people it's it's a it's a well-known Washington process.
So here we've signed the Military Detainee Act, the Military Commission Act, this is the the uh military tribunals.
And already, the Liberals are planning on doing everything they can to make sure that it doesn't happen.
Now you have to ask yourself why.
It's not just as simple as a civil rights disagreement.
It's not it's it's not just as simple as they think military tribunals are a little excessive, and yet they are serious about fighting the war on terror because the second half of my statement's not true.
These are the people who have spent the last number of years attempting to grant Al Qaeda uh constitutional rights as though they were U.S. citizens.
I've called it the Al Qaeda Bill of Rights.
You have to ask yourself these are the people, folks, who have been invested in America's defeat.
Here you have a lawyer, a liberal civil rights lawyer, breaking all kinds of legal ethics, among them attorney client privilege, to pass on these comments of Omar Abdel Rachman to his supporters for whatever nefarious purpose.
I'm sure he wasn't saying hi.
I'm sure he wasn't saying, hey, I'm doing okay.
He was urging death to all who disagreed with his version of Islamic behavior and law.
And she was passing along these messages of death, and the judge said, Well, there's no one was harmed in any of this.
Judge can't possibly know it.
So we have the military tribunals signed into law.
Congress gave it to the president quickly, as I knew would be the case, and already the Libs can't wait to stop it and protest it.
Why?
Well, there are a number of reasons.
One is they want the cases tried by them.
They want to be the power.
They want to run U.S. foreign policy.
They want to usurp via the U.S. judiciary the whole role of commander-in-chief, particularly when a Republican is in office.
They are not about to surrender the power that they have amassed in the judiciary, with all of these appointments that they have gotten confirmed, Supreme Court, appellate court, U.S. district courts, uh, and and you you look at the uh the speed with which Clinton's judges were confirmed versus the arduous task that the Bush people have had in getting their judges confirmed.
Uh this is and by the way, this focuses another point on the uh uh importance of this upcoming election this year, this month or next month, and that is the makeup of the U.S. Supreme Court.
We've got three justices in there, uh one's in his eighties, two are in their seventies, and you know they're just hanging on uh to uh at least one of them is so that uh it is not Bush who gets the name his replacement.
They liberals know exactly what they're doing.
Now, in addition to them wanting to control the prosecution uh and the war on terror via the U.S. court system via the U.S. military, because remember, liberals loathe the military, they think it's the focus of evil in the modern world.
They want control of all kinds of U.S. foreign policy via via the courts, particularly prosecution of this war.
And when you add to it the things that they have done in the past eighteen months or two years, you have to question whether they want to win it.
You have to question whether they want trials to be conducted by themselves with terrorists represented by their lawyers in order for the U.S. to win this.
This is serious stuff, folks.
I do not say this lightly.
There are people in this country who think we deserve to lose.
And if you find that strange, there are Republicans in this country who think we deserve to lose the House.
There are Republicans in this country who think we deserve to lose the Senate for whatever their reasons.
They think so.
So don't be surprised and don't be shocked when you hear me say that there are Americans who want us to lose against this enemy.
I can't begin to tell you why.
It's a psychological analysis that centers around guilt.
There's no question that there's a blame America first crowd in this country.
There's no question that there is a hate America crowd in this country, and there is no question that some of these people do deserve to have their patriotism challenged.
Here is uh Trish in Edmonton, Canada, Edmund in Alberta.
Nice to have you on the program with us.
Well, good morning, Rush.
Hi.
Ditto.
Thank you.
From north of the border.
Yeah, it's great to have you.
By the way, you know what I've noticed?
I've been reading the news that the U.S. is using black hawk helicopters to patrol the U.S. Canadian border.
Yeah, in Montana.
In Montana, you had a lot of increased flights uh because of the terrorist threat.
And I'm saying, well, what about the southern border?
What are the what are what are the Canucks doing to it?
At any rate, uh uh I know that's not why you called, but I had to mention that since you're calling from Canada.
It's great to hear from you, by the way.
Well, we we spoke almost a year ago about uh Mary Landrew uh down in Louisiana.
Yes.
Yes.
This this you've made my day.
I've listened to you s I the day I listened to you, the first day was uh going back, it was on Lincoln's birthday, like back in nineteen ninety.
So uh I I just really enjoy your program.
Well now, are you uh are you native Canadian?
Oh no, no, I'm from Oklahoma.
My husband works up here for uh big oil.
We're uh destroying the environment up here in great, great.
Uh what what is Lincoln's birthday?
Uh February twelfth.
Well, it used to be.
That's not when we celebrate it.
We celebrate on the twenty second now, President's Day.
Right.
Well, I remember that was a uh uh point in the discussion on that that particular day.
Right.
Listen, Rushwood, I was what what's flooring me on this is we have the liberal strategy.
I'm not even going to say Democrat.
Uh we see the liberal strategy of what will happen if we do catch bin Laden or Zawahiri or any of the Hesbo cells here in that are in the U.S. if the Democrats are in power.
I mean, we've set legal precedent.
I mean, we all heard them talk about all the good deeds and the social services.
Right.
Like building roads and hospitals.
Well, i if if we catch bin Laden and they bring him up there to New York and put him on trial, and and he's convicted by a jury that that knows that they can give this man thirty years.
Well, wait, yeah, because you you know that his uh legal team will be from the ACLU.
Exactly.
Yes, sir.
And it was Patty Murray, by the way, uh the little mom in Tennessee senator from the state of Washington who got in a little trouble for suggesting that uh no wonder Bin Laden had a lot of support amongst his radical followers that he built a lot of schools and he made sure the roads were paved and the trash was collected and he done a lot of good social work.
And so your theory is that once he gets put on trial in the United States, and let's say he's sentenced to five life terms for the September eleventh attacks and the death of three thousand Americans, you're suggesting that a smart lawyer and a Clinton judge could get the t the sentence reduced to maybe ten months or three years because of all the good works Bin Laden has done up until the time he created the crime in nine eleven.
Yes, sir.
I think you'd go I think it would go a different way.
I think that bin Laden, if caught and captured and brought to trial, would deny ever having anything to do with it.
And they would say, but you said you did, you claim well, of course I was trying to stand up big with my people, but you can't prove I knew anything about this.
I wasn't on those airplanes.
I was never in this country.
I had nothing to do with this.
You proved it was me.
Prove that I had an I I think everybody would be and the defense counsel say, see, Judge, we've been operating under a misconception started by the Bush administration and the CIA since February or or September 12th of 2001 that bin Laden did it, when in fact we know the Bush administration did this on its own, and the 911 truth squad would get all their day in court to prove that it was a Bush conspiracy to do.
That's what'll happen, uh, or a variation of it.
You're exactly right.
If um if uh Bin Laden or Zawahiri or any of these other people are brought to trouble.
I'm I'm sure they'd bring Saddam to trial here as a witness uh for bin Laden characters.
I mean, it's not funny, but sometimes you have to illustrate the absurd by being absurd.
Well, it's I uh you know the the more you look at this and the more the more you see this unfolding, you realize that that it's not absurd.
I mean, this the absurdity is becoming reality.
We we're by this decision by a judge, the jury acted in good faith.
They knew that she was up for thirty years.
They convicted her, and the judge, a liberal judge, turned that decision on its ear and and in effect of have done nothing but to embolden other other jihadists or or people who would help us here in the United States.
No question about it.
But look, Trisha, when I excuse me, I can't emphasize this enough.
Do not underestimate the role that former Clinton administration officials played in persuading this judge.
I don't know how much persuasion he needed, uh, but nevertheless, they ganged up and this Joanne Harris, who was in the Clinton Attorney General's office, the Justice Department, and who would likely be an AG candidate or a federal judge candidate, led the charge for reducing the sentence and talking about all the great works in her past that Lynn Stewart had done.
Uh and and you've got to focus on that.
Not only are they going to appoint other judges like this one, but there are people like Joanne Harris who will end up like Jamie Gorellick.
I mean, just d uh imagine a Justice Department full of Jamie Gorillax.
I gotta run.
I got a little long here, but we'll be back and continue in just a second.
By the way, programming reminder uh Vice President Cheney will be on the program at 133.
Uh this afternoon, that's Eastern time, so that's uh about 30 minutes and 35 or 40 minutes from now.
Vice President Cheney will be with us for uh ten minutes.
Uh Harry Reid says he's gonna amend uh four years of ethics reports, and he's blaming Republicans for all this, and he's blaming the AP reporter for having uh uh a Jones against him and all that.
Uh it's been learned that he he lives in the Ritz Carlton and uh in Washington in a 750,000 dollar condo, and he paid uh Christmas and holiday bonuses to the condo staff out of his campaign funds.
Uh uh that is uh, you know, I I think there have been centures of senators for doing this kind of thing.
He's chalking it all up to a uh Republican uh s uh hit squad, even though a member of his own staff is the uh source for all of this.
Uh dingy uh Dingy Harry is uh he's managed to make it to page four, A4 of the Washington Post today.
Keep moving it up.
Um I don't know where the story appears in the uh in the New York Times.
But he's blaming the lawyers.
He's blaming the lawyers for for not doing these uh donations properly.
Uh he had just uh he had just scored his 700,000 dollar profit on the land that he didn't own, uh, and yet still wanted to tight wad it and pay the bonuses out of his campaign funds rather than his uh personal funds.
Jessica Cincinnati, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
You know, I'm a little frustrated with with your chiding of the disaffected GOP.
Really?
I I am.
And I want to make sure I've heard you correctly in the past, where uh you're not a believer of term limits because you believe terms are enforced.
Term limits are enforced at the on voting day.
Is that correct?
Uh I've gone back and forth on on term limits.
Uh I've probably been for them at one time and against them.
Uh, but the the reality is that term limits uh, even though it was part of the contract with America not going to survive.
So to facilitate the call, because we're low on time, I'll concede your point, yes.
Okay.
Well, I think that's what you're seeing.
And I'm not saying that I agree with it.
I'm just saying that a lot of people, sad to say, feel that their only way to effect change is to enforce term limits at the polls.
And if it's if it's frustration because we we have a lack of leadership within the GOP, you know, we've tried other areas.
We've tried to lobby for change in other areas, but it's not worked.
Well, how am I ch what do we?
I'm I'm chiding what am I doing?
I'm just warning what's gonna happen if if you if you don't vote or vote for the other guys.
That's all I'm doing.
Well, and and I agree, and in a post-9-11 world, the stakes are too high.
We need to make sure we enforce those term limits in the primary.
Uh, in my opinion.
But you know, it's hard to overcome that when the national party gets behind the incumbent with their power and resources.
Wait a minute, I'm losing you here.
Term limits in the primary, that's sometimes you don't have a chance to do that.
Uh incumbents are usually not opposed by members of their own party.
Well, in Ohio, we we've had many incumbents that have been run against uh that have had opponents in the primary.
So let's let's stick to the point that you think that I should uh whatever I'm doing is is uh I'm being too critical of Republicans who are upset with uh Republicans in the House or Senate, and uh that's irritating them even more.
I agree.
Yes.
Basically.
I don't know, but how am I chin?
Uh uh what am I what do they hear me doing?
Well, I'm just warning them.
I'm warning them that they are the target of a media disinformation and bias campaign.
I am warning them they ought to uh understand the uh efforts that are uh being used to get them to adopt and assume these positions.
I knew this is gonna happen, Jessica.
I'm I'm out of time.
Can you hang on for the con I want to continue this with you because I've I have been falsely accused here, and I want to defend my honor.
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