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Aug. 25, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 25, 2006, Friday, Hour #3
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That's right, uh Johnny Donovan, and I'll correct you, there are thousands of ladies who wish they were more like he.
Uh this is Raw Walter Williams sitting in for Rush, and you can be on with us uh by calling 800-282-2882 and Rush will be back on Monday, and uh you can visit uh rushlimball.com and you'll see my dashing handsome photo there.
And you can make a lot of copies of it uh to you know send to your friends, and there's a link to my website, which is very rich with stuff.
Uh and if you join Rush, you will get your very own rush baby on board.
Uh how does that sound, uh, the rush baby on board?
Um, okay, yeah, bring me a uh rush baby on board.
Yeah, yeah.
That was that was uh James Golden, and uh I was asking uh Mike Mamone, uh my uh engineer for the day.
Uh uh Didn't they have a sound on that?
Uh well we'll we'll try to get a sound.
We we don't have a sound for it.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Okay, it's a little uh plaque that says uh rush baby on board.
Uh and you can put it in your uh aha, rush baby on board, a little yellow uh sign like you see where it says uh women working or things like that.
Uh a little yellow sign.
It's uh um it's a wonderful sign.
And you can put it on your SUV or your your tank.
Uh that would be more appropriate.
Ah, aha, yeah, I got oh, who that's that young lady she brought in.
What's your name?
What's her name?
Susan Moran.
She just brought in the little rush baby on board sign.
So I have two of them that I'm looking at.
Anyway, uh the last time we talked about uh that we were going to talk about the uh next day pill and body parts.
And uh okay, so here's what got me uh thinking about the next day pill uh in New York Times today.
It says next day pill.
Which is a James, uh okay, the morning after pill.
If you want to say the morning well, the the next day is the morning after.
Oh okay.
Anyway, the story in the New York Times says uh uh the FDA approves the morning after pill.
And many people are in a tizzy.
But I think those who are in a tizzy over it are wasting their tizziness.
I'll tell you something to really be tizzy over.
Uh you should be you should worry about the FDA's systematic incentives.
FDA means Food and Drug Administration.
They approve all the drugs uh for safety and effectiveness in our country.
But we should be worried about the FDA's systematic incentives that unnecessarily leads to hundreds, perhaps, over, let's say the last couple of decades of unnecessary deaths.
Now let's talk about the FDA uh incentives for a moment.
Now, an FDA official can make essentially two kinds of errors.
And what are those errors?
Well, it's called the type one error and the type two error.
Okay, these are statistical errors.
And uh let me just give you a technical definition first, and then I'll take give you ordinary definition after that.
The type one error is accepting a false hypothesis when you should reject it.
And the type two error is rejecting a true hypothesis when you should accept it.
Okay, so what that means is that uh the type one error is to err on the side of over caution.
That is the FDA official, he's just over cautious, and he he uh uh doesn't approve a drug that is in fact safe and effective.
And the type two error is to uh is uh is the error of undercaution, where um he approves a drug that has dangerous unatten unanticipated side effects.
Um a type two error, an example of that would be uh it didn't happen in the United States, but uh the thalidomide uh that uh cause a lot of uh birth defects in in Germany and and England and and some other European countries.
Now so now now what are the incentives?
Now, the FDA does not have equal incentives to make these errors.
Now, if the FDA official errs on the side of undercaution, that is approve a drug that has dangerous side effects, he'll be in Congress, he might get fired, the agency will get embarrassed, and there'll be all kinds of problems.
But if he errs on the side of overcaution, that is, plays it too safe and keeps a drug off the market for more tests and improvements,
and uh delays the uh uh drug coming in on the market well there's no cost to the FDA offici FDA official that is uh he won't be in Congress the people who died because the medicine was not available they don't know why they died and their loved ones don't know why they died and surely they would not attribute it to the FDA.
Now let me just give you some numbers uh on some research that's uh been done on this uh let's see there's the uh according to Dr. Lewis Lesagna and he's with the uh Tuft University Center for the study of drug development he said because the FDA delays in beta blockers the beta blockers deal with hypertension and and then some of them deal with the uh secondary effects of myocardial infarction uh he says
Because of the delays in approval, 119,000 people died who might have been helped by that medication.
Now, this was during the 70s, where the beta blockers were approved in Europe, but the FDA did not approve them for use in the United States.
And then there's a whole bunch of other drugs that were approved in Europe, but not approved in the United States, too much like Pfizer.
later one is MevaCor it's a cholesterol cholesterol lowering drug and uh it could have saved if it had been introduced that when it was also introduced in Europe it would save thousands of lives Havereks and uh interleukin II and some others uh and one of the big problems is that these FDA officials are playing over safe and so they and but the cost of being over safe to them is essentially zero.
Nothing happens to them happens is that many patients who would have lived they die instead.
Now there's another issue that's impacting that Americans should not be worried about the the uh the approval of the the morning after pill they need to pay put m far more resources in paying attention to what the FDA does.
For example to get a drug to the market it costs a pharmaceutical company eight hundred million dollars to get one drug to the market that's the average cost of getting a drug to market because of all the FDA requirements and it takes anywhere from eight to twelve years.
Now what does this do?
Well first of all when a pharmaceutical starts developing a drug they don't know whether the drug is going to be uh you know it whether they're going to recoup their expense so they have some reluctance in development of some drugs and some drugs they decide not to develop at all that are that can help people.
Now let me give you an example of this.
Now put yourself in the place of a manager of a pharmaceutical and your biochemist comes to you and says I have a an effective treatment for such and such illness and you're the manager you say well uh it's going to cost me $800 million to get this drug to the market how many people are affected with this drug?
Well your chemist tells you well it's a rare disease and only about three or four thousand or fifty thousand people are affected by this disease.
Well, what do you tell the chemists?
Well, you say, look, it's going to take me $800 million to get this drug to the market, and it's not enough people with this disease for us to make any money.
So we're going to put it on the shelf.
And they call those drugs orphan drugs.
But thankfully, during the Reagan administration, there was the Orphan Drug Act that was written in 1983, And it provided some incentives and other things for the institutions.
some other um incentives for the uh drug companies to uh to produce these drugs, and fortunately many rare diseases are being treated today that otherwise would not be treated.
And here you people out there, you're worrying about the morning after pill and the and the FDA's policy is leading to the unnecessary deaths of thousands of American of American people, and nobody cares about it.
Okay, so that's the morning after uh part of the tease I gave you last hour.
Uh I won't be able to get into all of it, but I want to talk about body parts.
Um you can't sell your organs.
Now, I think that that's an abomination that I cannot sell my liver or or my um uh you know my my kidneys or my heart uh because after all, who do they belong to?
They belong to Walter Williams.
They don't belong to the Congress of the United States, they belong to me.
And if if I own something, I should have the right to sell it.
But there's this law, and it's called the National Organ Transplant Act, and it gives it imposes a $50,000 fine and five years for taking anything of value in exchange for your organs.
Now, I think that we ought to be selling organs because there's a major problem with organ transplants.
There's a shortage of organs.
That is uh almost 65,000 people are waiting for kidneys, and according to some estimates, 15 or 20,000 of them are gonna die before there's a transplant.
Now, if we if we were to sell organs, I'm gonna get back to this uh when we come back from the break, but if we were to sell organs, it would increase the supply of organs.
I mean, I can just imagine here here here I am, Walter Williams.
Um I'm almost dead, or dead.
And the doctor asks my daughter, a lovely, beautiful daughter.
Of course she's beautiful, she looks just like I do.
But the doctor asked her, asked my daughter, well, can I can we can we harvest your father's heart?
Can we harvest his liver?
Can we harvest his kidneys?
And she'll say, No, I want my daddy to be buried just like he came in the world.
But if the doctor said to her, we will give you $20,000 for his liver, $40,000 for heart, what do you think my daughter say?
I know what she'd say.
She's like, do you want the eyes too?
It would it, of course, it would increase the supply of organs, but we're gonna talk more about this when we come back from the break.
We'll be back.
We're back, uh Walter Williams pushing back the frontiers of ignorance, and we're talking about uh uh drugs, uh FDA approval, and we're talking about body parts.
Uh now I know a lot of people, and particularly those in the medical profession, they are against the sale of organs.
And here's one of the questions I might raise to them is that everybody in the transplant business is making money.
That is the doctors are making money, the nurses are making money, the people who find the organs are in charge of uh harvesting the organs, the people are in charge of allocating the organs, they are making money, and everybody's making money except the person whose organ it is.
And so why not allow the person to make money?
That is here it's it seems kind of cruel.
Now, here I am.
I have two nice kidneys, fully functioning kidneys.
According to the medical profession, uh as healthy as I am, I can make do with one.
I have an extra kidney.
Now, Now, if you say to me, Well, Walter, how about giving your uh kidney to Joe Blow, somebody don't I don't know.
How about giving it to you?
I'll say, hey, wh why should I go through the stress?
Why should I go through an operation?
But if you say Joe Blow wants to buy my kidney, well, that's another issue.
I mean, that that's yeah, but so it seems like that many people in this in in the uh transplant business, they expect altruism to take care of this very, very uh important problem.
That is somebody sick and they're dying and they need a body part.
Now, ask yourself the question.
Suppose we apply altruism to the supply of cars.
You say, well, yeah, uh we we don't we don't expect people to sell cars, and we we we want them to volunteer a car or volunteer a house or volunteer food or volunteer computers.
Do you think we'd have any supply problems?
We'd have a supply problem.
Now, so here's what people are saying.
It seems cruel to me.
You say a person says, well, I mean, here's the most important thing that can happen in your life, perhaps.
Let's say you're on your deathbed and you need a liver.
And they're saying you can't get a liver the same way you got your house, or the same way you got your car, we're gonna make you depend on the goodness of somebody else.
Now that is preposterous.
I mean, uh uh you you would say it as uh uh oh, you can't have a house unless it's gonna if you get a house, it's gonna depend on the goodness of somebody else.
You tell a person, go play in the traffic.
Well, why don't you tell the transplant people the same thing?
They are willing to see people die instead of making taking those actions that will increase supply.
Now they have one devious plot that I find despicable.
Now, in some countries, they have the what they call an opt-out system.
That is, if you die and you don't say that your kidneys or your body parts can be harvested, they'll take them.
Whether you mean to have them uh uh taken or not.
Well, fortunately, so far in the United States we have the opt-in.
That is you have to do something affirmative to say that you want your kidneys uh uh harvested uh or your your eyes harvested uh when you die.
So I think that I think there ought to be a market.
And I think that and a lot of people say another criticism, they'll say, well, if there's a market for kidneys, uh, well, maybe somebody will get, you know, somebody will murder somebody in order for them to get their body parts.
Well, uh, that's possible, but that's a crime, and that should be punishable by law.
Put people in jail or execute them for if they did that.
But just because some people will engage in a criminal activity, subject involved in a particular activity, is no reason to ban the activity.
So anyway, I know you people are not going to be impressed by this, because most people think, you know, even though I can sell my hair, which is a body part, uh there's no law against my selling my hair.
There's uh uh I I think Mike, you know, Mike Mamone, he's my engineer.
He said, who would want to buy my hair?
Now here's this guy bald.
I mean, he's bald.
He would buy you buy my hair, get a tra a hair tra a hair transplant.
But the the point is, again, the point is is that I'm trying to make, and I've forgotten my train of thought here, but the the point I'm trying to make is that I belong to Walter Williams.
I am my private property.
I do not belong to the government.
Now, matter of fact, if I belong to the government, then I would not have the right to sell myself because that's you know somebody else's property.
But I belong to Walter Williams.
And if I belong to Walter Williams, I have the right to sell my body.
I don't have the right to put to sell somebody else's body parts because of the they're not my property.
But if I belong to Walter Williams, I should have a right to uh sell my body parts.
Matter of fact, my doctor one day, he was telling me, Williams, you ought to stop smoking.
And so I said, Well, does it make sense to send pink lungs in the ground?
If I could sell my lungs, I would take better care of them.
We'll be back with your calls after this.
Walter Williams sitting in for a rush and Russia will be back on Monday.
By the way, folks, I there's a little tidbit, and I just I just wanted to mention it.
It's in my stack of stuff.
Uh it's about uh uh New Orleans uh mayor Ray Nathan.
Anyway, uh the guy has a kind of colorful past, but um anyway, he had a nice comeback.
Uh uh I think uh a uh during a sixty minutes uh interview, a uh uh correspondent uh pointed out that flood damaged cars are still in the street of New Orleans in the uh devastated ninth ward.
And guess what Ray Man said to the um reporter?
He said uh you guys in New York can't get a hole in the ground fixed, and it's five years later, so let's be fair.
Uh well that's one and for Ray Nagan.
By the way, all this money people I'm sorry.
All this money that people are sending down to New Orleans, and that's how you say Norleans, um, is there any constitutional authority for it?
There is none whatsoever.
Uh matter of fact, those of you who want to uh uh see what uh James Madison, the founder of the the the uh father of the Constitution said, uh just read his veto of public works act, and I believe it was 1816.
He said it's no constitutional authority for it.
And by the way, people say, oh, well, y with that kind of devastation, we need uh government involved.
I say nonsense because whenever somebody tells me that you need government to do something, I ask, what did they do before it?
And there's the Chicago fire that that damn near destroyed the city.
Chicago came back without government money.
There is the Galveston uh I think category four or five hurricane that destroyed Galvinston, I think it's nineteen hundred.
Galveston came back without federal money.
Then there was a San Francisco earthquake in nineteen oh six.
And they rebuilt San Francisco without this great big uh government uh largesse.
So when anybody tells you we just need a certain government program, I always ask question, what did we do before we had the uh government program?
Anyway, I just wanted to uh run that little uh Ray Nagan uh uh tidbit uh by you and uh I don't know whether shown on the during let's see uh it it might not have been shown uh it's gonna air Sunday night.
Anyway.
Yeah, yeah, he's taking he's taking a a lot of heat, but uh but a fact is a fact.
I think the hole is still in the ground uh in the uh in the big apple.
Uh but let's go to the phones.
And let's go to Brian and Hammond, Louisiana.
Hello, Mr. Williams, thanks for taking my call.
Okay.
Um I can hear you.
Uh okay, great.
And millions and millions of other people can hear you.
Okay, great.
Um the reason why I call uh I'm a health care professional, and and while I do agree with you about the fact that there needs to be a larger supply of organs for donation, um I I think you may be missing some unintended consequences of having lay people, and when I say lay people, I mean people that are not medically trained deciding to sell their organ.
Um it's it's a more complicated process than that.
There are um health health problems that can come into pictures of the.
Well, okay, okay, okay.
Help me out, because I I'm I'm not a medical practitioner.
Okay.
Now here's the issue.
Okay, I I'm Walter Williams, and let's say I want to sell one of my kidneys.
And and I'm I'm imagining that I go to a doctor and I get all kinds of tests.
The doctor tests me and he says, Well, you can make it a your kidneys are working at uh at 96%, and uh and and you can uh you can live your old geezer.
Uh you only have twenty ten or twenty more years live anyway.
Yes.
And so you might as well fork over one of your kidneys.
Now what's wrong with that?
Uh one of the unintend unintended consequences that you're not foreseeing is that yes, right now, Mr. Walter Williams, your kidneys are functioning at 96%, and you can make it on one kidney.
But who's to say that five years from now you don't and I don't know uh if you have high blood pressure or not.
Let's say you develop high blood pressure, okay?
Then your other kidney starts to peter out.
Now you only have one bad kidney.
Now you're looking at pop possibly having to go on to renal dialysis and passing on cost of unintended and unnecessary medical care that you could have avoided um had you kept both your kidneys.
Now if it's your family member, well wait wait wait a minute.
Well they okay, so you you would agree that I can voluntarily give my kidney to a family member to whoever.
Yes, sir.
Well, what's the difference?
I'm gonna still uh you know, five years from now I can still go to high blood pressure and that and go renal failure.
They're probably gonna make some decisions based on on situations that they might be in that they're not thinking very clearly and they just need the money and they're not thinking.
I know, but uh you're you're getting back to me as a hypothetical.
Yes, sir.
Okay, so there's two cases I can either volunteer my kidney to somebody uh you know who needs a kidney, or I can sell it.
Yes, sir.
And but either case, and let's say in this hypothetical, uh five years hence, I can uh you know uh have renal failure.
Now okay, so you you would you would uh uh support putting me in jail if I sell the kidney as opposed to volunteering giving the kidney.
Well, I I definitely wouldn't say that I'm supporting putting anyone in jail, but they're just proper channels, and I I would just like to offer a suggestion or a solution to the problem that you obviously uh realize that we have, and that is a lack of organ donors, and uh and a long time that these people are having to stay on organ donor lift.
And if um I think that the the the solution to the situation is to have a drive for increased organ donors, which which most people uh probably do not intend to do, nor would they ever um uh uh attempt to consider to do, and uh and I think that's the answer to your to your issue.
Well, I I I don't think they I don't think a drive, I don't think a drive is going to help.
Uh uh I I think that the thing that will help is monetary incentives.
That is monetary incentives.
Uh you say if I want to increase supply of anything, it's a no-brainer to say, well, raise the price.
Well, right now the price is zero.
And so w how much is supplied, you don't expect a large supply of uh of anything when the price is zero when you just depend on people voluntarily uh uh doing nice things for their uh fellow man.
Of course, many people will do that, and I applaud them for it, but it's just plain not enough.
Let's go to Craig in Richmond, Virginia, one of my favorite cities.
Well, I'm glad it's one of your favorite cities, Dr. Williams.
You're one of my favorite columnists.
Oh, thank you.
My children will be thrilled because I have clipped so many of your articles and given them to them, and uh my daughter's almost ready for college, and she's looking at Hillsdale, by the way.
Oh, very good, very good.
Yeah, sometimes uh I I get a lot of people.
And I might almost let me let me interrupt you said uh because I'll tell you something about Hillsdale, yeah, that is very good.
It is just no fun up there.
Oh that that means a a father should be happy about that because all you can do is study.
Good.
How far is it from Detroit or no?
Oh, it's not that far, it's about it's about an hour and a half drive.
Uh I guess that's far enough.
It's uh hour and a half.
I see I see your concern.
Yes, very concerned.
Uh with Beelborne also, very concerned.
Yeah, right.
It's uh it's a wonderful college.
Oh, great, great.
And uh maybe later on you mentioned two colleges, Hillsdale and I think Rose City.
Yeah, Grove City College in Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
Um and matter of fact, there's some others, there's some others that I just can't think of.
But if you check out on your website uh because Hillsdale is so selective, they uh what Fleets?
Uh I I'm not sure.
But check out uh for all you people out there, check out uh the Intercollegiate Studies Institute is Isi.org, Isi.org, and it has a college guide, and I think it's a very reliable college guide.
Good, good.
Well earlier Juan was on and I'm thinking it was is this a uh Winston Churchill moment for him or has he been a closet uh conservative all along.
Well I I applaud him though.
Well, yeah, well uh you know, people a as he said, and I ask him that question, I you know, i that there's just some facts uh that become undeniable after a while, and I think that he's making uh uh I think that is is work in his uh in his book uh is uh just really really good.
Yeah.
Well you guys hit on one of my pet peeves when he talked about Du Bois and the talent in tenth.
And and it seems that uh back around the turn of the century they had the uh red state blue state thing going on in the black community with uh the big fight between Booker T Washington and and Dubois, and uh it seems like this talented tenth, uh rather than reach down and pick their fellow black men and women up uh in in two thousand six and for recent history,
say the last twenty-five years or so, uh it seems like they've just uh decided that I don't want the white man's foot on my people.
I want my foot on my people.
That's that's the that's the way to put it.
But but uh thanks live for calling in, Craig.
Uh let's uh let's take a break and we'll be back with more of your calls after this.
We're back and we're gonna go back uh to the phones.
Uh we only have a few more minutes left than uh Open Line Friday, uh the last hour, of course, uh, and we're gonna talk to James in Atlanta, Georgia.
Welcome to the show, James.
Good morning, Professor.
Or afternoon.
How are you today?
Okay.
Well, actually, I'm not okay.
I'm not okay because the world's wrong and I'm right.
Oh, there you go.
Hey, I've got a question for you.
You're world renowned for your ability to identify gifts for your wife, whether it be a holiday, uh Christmas, anniversary, or birthday.
I've got a a fifteen year anniversary coming up for my wife, and I need some uh some advice.
Oh my god.
You know what?
I get a lot of mail from you guys.
I can't I can't y how come you guys don't get your own ideas?
Now now now look for okay, let's let's get a little history of this.
Uh a number of years, you know, uh something for rush, and I was telling pe uh somebody called and asked what kind of Christmas gift I get from my wife.
And so I said I got a pair of golf shoes.
Uh and I she doesn't play golf, but the shoes have spikes on it so that um uh she doesn't slide around while she's cleaning my car in the winter because it gets you know the water gets icy and stuff like this.
And I was talking about the other gifts that I get from my wife.
And so it's some guy some some of you guys think I'm a gift guru.
Now let me make a suggestion to you, James.
Now here's what you do.
It's fifteenth anniversary.
Yes, sir.
Okay, so here's the g well, this is a general guide for getting gifts anyway for your wife.
Is that you look around the house and see what needs to be replaced that you're gonna have to buy anyway.
And you know, like an iron and board or or like uh uh uh uh pot holders and stuff like this.
So here's my recommendation to you, James, is look around your house, find fifteen things that you're gonna have to buy anyway.
Yeah, fifteen different things.
You know, like it might be a potholder, it could be uh a muffin tin that's rusting out uh uh or some slippers and things like that.
And and buy that.
And but the key to it is wrap it nicely.
Right.
So several boxes wrapped nicely with things I'm gonna have to buy anyway.
Yeah, fifteen things and and just you know, and have a nice little bow bow tie.
And uh and do you think your wife will hurt you about this?
Uh I doubt she would.
She probably expects a little at this point.
Okay, well you well anyway, I made sure that my wife couldn't hurt me, because like I'm s I I'm I I I chose properly when I married, because I'm six foot six, and my wife is five six.
So you don't you don't marry a woman that looks like she can beat you.
Well, unlike you, Walter, I married way over my head.
The woman is beautiful and I've got to treat her like a queen.
Okay.
But good luck on the gifts.
Well, thank you very much.
Uh you know, a lot of guys uh well see uh a lot of guys they're afraid to buy these kind of gifts because they don't have control over their household.
They've lost control of the household, but but not Mr. Williams.
I uh I control my household.
So I'm free to uh you know be very imaginative in terms of gift giving.
But let's get serious, uh uh ladies and gentlemen.
Let's go to Oscar and welcome Oscar from Omaha, Nebraska.
Walter Williams, it's a pleasure and honor to speak with you.
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
Um there's a point back with you and the other Williams, uh Juan Williams, uh, and that conversation, and I have heard it I I don't think enough, but several times in the last year or so um that I don't think is raised enough, and that is there is a perspective from I let me give you a kind of a case in point, if I could.
Okay.
Um I'm a 48-year-old white male.
Um I grew up in Northern California.
I I remember when Martin Luther King was shot, my parents crying.
They raised me to respect all races and all people.
Um you know, the white whole white guilt thing.
My best friends were black, which is true, even though through high school and junior high and high school, it was the black, the Filipinos and the Mexicans that probably gave me the most grief.
Um and I've sustained that through my life and taught my children that.
But at this point in time in my life, they're uh you know, and it's people like you, Condoleezza Rice, um other black people in my life who have risen up and and have a realistic or a you know, are taking advantage of America that that maintains my faith.
But uh I and again, this is a case, and I'd like you to know.
And I and I know what you're gonna I I know what you're gonna say.
I think one I I'm tired of hearing about it.
Well, okay, well tired of it.
Well well actually uh a lot of it is by the so-called leaders, you know, like you know, they show up on the 60 uh 60 minutes or they show up on the various news and and and many people have the impression of black people they get it from what the you know what they see on TV or they get it from um uh excuse makers.
So I think that we should just you know treat each other like human beings and uh and and and get on with it.
And by the way, for you people out there who feel guilt, you can go to my website and click on gift.
That's Walter E. Williams dot com, click on GIF, and there's a gift for you.
And what it is, it's a signific it's a certificate of amnesty and pardon.
And so you won't I guarantee you you won't feel guilty anymore.
We'll be back with your calls after this.
Okay, we're back, and uh let's welcome Katie from uh Florida Keys on board.
Welcome to show.
Hello, Katie.
How are you?
Okay.
That's good.
I actually saw you at the National Conservative Student Conference in Washington, D.C. Oh, okay.
Good.
You're awesome.
Oh, thank you.
And hand and and handsome too.
Yes, you very you are.
Um my question is, what is your best uh suggestion as to how you can combat little liberal professors?
Well, uh I I I don't know.
Uh the I I guess one of the things if they get really outrageous is just to uh take their lecture and uh and make it uh widely uh uh available.
Um but I I think that maybe one of your guides is to go to the young Americas Foundation, uh and then there's accuracy in academia uh to uh and and they uh they help students.
Uh they might give you some guidelines.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
And folks, that was Katie worrying about how to deal with liberal professors.
Well, I think one of the things that you one has to worry about in as a college student is that you have to be ends-oriented, you have to get out of college.
So sometimes you just have to shut up and and just uh uh learn what you're you're there for and just ignore the the uh the leftist ideas.
But um uh short of that, I just don't have any other recommendations because you want to get a college degree, as opposed to correcting a leg liberal professor, and you cannot correct folks.
Uh tune in Monday.
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