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Aug. 10, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 10, 2006, Thursday, Hour #2
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And welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Again, today, the big news of what did not happen.
Rush thinks that all these big things happen when he leaves.
This is a case in which the big thing did not happen.
The big thing that did happen is that the Brits and the Americans were successful.
Blair and Bush were successful at thwarting apparently a complicated plot to try to do again what Ramde Youssef and Sheikh tried to do out of the Philippines in 94, and that is to put some bombs on a lot of airplanes and blow them out of the sky and disrupt Western civilization and one of its key components.
The disruption, nonetheless, even without the planes blowing up, is pretty substantial today with flights canceled and people trying to get on board planes and no liquids and all the rest of it that's going on.
I wanted to, however, say that in light of the discussion we've been having about Israel in Lebanon, about Hezbollah starting a war and then portraying themselves since then as the victims of it in the American media successfully, by the way, I want to just maybe make a proposal here.
Constructively trying to move us toward peace.
It seems to me that in the interests of peace, that young Muslims around the world need to take a timeout.
We need a ceasefire on the question of blowing up airplanes.
Perhaps you should just not take a plane for a while.
Try to back off and take a time out and really regroup.
In the words of the modern education jargon of the United States, it's just time for a time out to rest and to try to come to grips with your need to tolerate diversity and to be more accepting of people of different faiths and different ways of looking at the world.
If only you'd gone to American school.
Oops.
Oh, yeah, Hezbollah Haye in Dearborn.
That didn't work too well there.
But if only you'd gone to American school where diversity training is mandatory, where we know that all people are valid and all ideas are equally valid, these things would not have come to you to get on a plane and blow people up.
I mean, how dysfunctional, how in need of riddling you must have been in the eighth grade for your ADD.
Now that I've got the attention.
See, I'm trying to build bridges to a different audience.
I know many of you are wondering, what is he talking about?
Well, I'm trying to speak in the language that would draw in other Kims, our earlier caller, other folks out there who have been lost in the wilderness of liberalism for too long and need to get connected to a rational reality again.
So I'm going to use their vocabulary to draw them in.
Yesterday, the Israelis, who only have one vocabulary, reported on Israeli television that among the slain militants in the fighting in Lebanon yesterday, among the slain Hezbollah members were members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
Iranian troops are in Lebanon, according to the Israelis, identified by papers discovered on their bodies.
And maybe they were just there as human shields, as giving out food aid to their Muslim brothers.
It's possible.
On the other hand, highly unlikely.
Because, ladies and gentlemen, Hezbollah has been around a long time.
Prior to 9-11, Hezbollah killed more Americans than any other terrorist group.
And I have, I interviewed earlier Lynn Smith Derbyshire, Derbyshire, whose brother was killed in the 1983 attack on the Marine barracks at Lebanon.
The Marines who were there to bring peace, to try to bring peace to Lebanon, were blown up, if you remember, in 1983 by Hezbollah.
By Hezbollah.
And Joe interviewed another fellow who had actually who had actually survived the bombing and describes it for me.
So here is that interview.
Hezbollah is nothing new.
In 1983, Hezbollah was responsible for the attack on the Marine barracks in Beirut.
We were there trying to keep the peace to support democracy, to support the Lebanese.
241 Marine men and women died in that attack.
Lynn Smith Derbyshire is a woman who lost her brother, Captain Vincent Smith, in that 1983 bombing.
And Joe Siokin survived the barracks bombing.
He was a Navy journalist injured in that bombing and is currently public affairs in the public affairs office on board the USS Midway down here in San Diego Harbor.
First of all, Lynn Smith Derbyshire, welcome to the program.
Thank you.
And Joe Siokin, thank you for being on as well.
Glad to be here, Roger.
Lynn, tell us about your brother.
Oh, Vince was a great guy.
He was my oldest brother, and he was everything you want your older brother to be.
He was my protector, my friend, my teacher, just a terrific, terrific guy.
Where'd you grow up?
He's an American man.
Where'd you grow up?
Well, all over, actually.
My dad was in the Marine Corps as well.
And so we grew up kind of every place.
And so he enlisted?
He went to the Naval Academy.
He went into the Marine Corps after graduation and then went to flight school.
He was a helicopter pilot.
And what was he doing in the barracks in Beirut?
Well, he was the air liaison officer.
So when they had to get supplies to and from the ship, it was his job to coordinate that.
I remember the gruesome aftermath of that blast.
And I'm just wondering, did you ever get a body back?
What did they give you back?
Oh, gosh.
Well, we did get some pieces back, not whole.
And, you know, that's one of the really, really difficult things.
You know, it took three weeks before they could identify his remains, and they actually had to do it from some x-rays from a broken bone he'd had in his childhood.
Now, today, it must be particularly poignant then for you and your family to be contemplating Hezbollah today.
Oh, it's just really, really difficult.
It's difficult to listen to the news.
It's difficult to read the paper.
And, you know, it's been that way for years because, of course, Hezbollah has been committing acts of terror against Americans and other people all these 23 long years.
And every time there's another one, we just grieve Vince's death all over again.
It just slices open that scar because his murderers are still out there murdering other people.
They haven't been held accountable and they haven't been stopped.
It's just very difficult.
I can only imagine, from my perspective, I listen carefully.
American presidents ritually will say that they mourn the loss of this life, that they're going to hold the perpetrators accountable, that you can't get away with this kind of stuff on Americans.
And then inevitably, they do get away with it.
Yes.
Well, Hezbollah and the government of Iran, who in fact has hired Hezbollah as their hitman time and time again, they have been getting away with murder literally over and over and over again.
We have, in fact, sued the government of Iran for this crime, and we have a guilty verdict against them, but we are prevented from collecting damages, in essence actually holding them accountable just because of some loopholes in the U.S. law, and we need to fix that, because if we are not holding them accountable, they are never going to stop.
Is there legislation that would fix that loophole?
There sure is.
It's H.R. 865 in the House and S-1257 in the Senate.
And it's just a little loophole.
It's kind of a technicality, actually.
And if we can pass this law, then we will be able to go after Iranian assets that are here in the United States.
The Iranians are using our free market economy to raise money to fund more terror.
And I think that's wrong.
I think we need to take that money away.
The government of Iran has commercial enterprises in the United States?
Yes, they do, by the billions of dollars' worth.
They make money here to fund their terrorism and then take the money and go do that.
Yes, sir.
And you sue them for the death of your loved one and you cannot collect?
Correct.
Why is that?
Well, there is a law that they passed years ago called the Flato Amendment.
It's an amendment to the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act that says, well, the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act says you can't sue a foreign government.
But the FLADO Amendment says, yes, you can, if they're a terrorist, a state sponsor of terror.
And, of course, Iran is one of those on the list.
And so we can sue them.
And, you know, the State Department is a little miffed at this because it used to be their purview to use this kind of stuff as negotiations or however.
And so they've sort of little by little chipped away at the effectiveness of this law in the courts.
And so this law, H.R. 865, S-1257, is aimed at fixing what's been broken over that period of time that this State Department's been trying to basically get their turf back.
Is the Bush administration supporting the bill, the bills?
You know, I don't believe the Bush administration has been asked.
I don't think we've gotten to that point yet.
We're trying to get support in the Congress by different people calling their congressmen and saying, please vote for this bill.
And then when it gets up for a vote, but I believe he will support it when he gets the opportunity.
It's the kind of thing it strikes me that he would support.
Well, we ought to be sure about that because I don't know that I am sure about a lot of this.
I'm not sure, but that's my inclination.
Yeah, Lynn Smith Derbyshire now lost her brother in the 83 Beirut Marine Barracks bombing.
And may I say, along with illegal immigration, that this issue was two of the very few marks I have against the Reagan administration, but they are significant.
This one more than the other, this one even more than the amnesty of 86 on the illegals.
All right, I'm going to interrupt that interview now because we're going to take a break.
Roger Hedgecock back live here on The Rush Show.
Wait till you hear this next segment, however, is as moving and powerful as Lynn was.
In the next segment, a survivor of the 83 Marine Barracks blast and his account of what happened.
I'm Roger Hedgecock in for Rush, back after this.
Welcome back to the Rush Libba program.
Roger Hedgecock in for Rush today.
And I just played an interview with a survivor whose brother Lynn Smith Derbyshire, whose brother Vince, died in the 1983 attack on the Marine Barracks in Beirut by Hezbollah.
I bring this up because Hezbollah is not new.
Hezbollah killed more Americans prior to 9-11 than anybody else.
They want to do it again.
Joe Siokin is, again, retired now in the Navy then and was at the barracks, at the barracks next door in another building in Beirut when the attack happened.
I interviewed him, and this is how that interview went.
So you were there at the Beirut bombing of those barracks.
Where were you?
Well, I was in the building next door, Roger.
And what?
Maybe 100 yards away.
And why were you there?
I was running an armed forces radio and television station there.
I was the station manager.
Okay, a station manager, a suit for crying out loud.
All right, so you're all right.
So, Joe, you're there, and you're in this building 100 yards away.
Are you in that building when the bomb goes off?
Yes.
You know, it's kind of a poignant story there, too.
The sergeant major of the BLT-18, which was in the headquarters building, gave me up his room because I was the senior Navy enlisted guy there.
I was a senior chief at the time.
Yeah.
And he said, I'm going to go back and live with my troops.
And, of course, he died there.
Wow.
And he gave up his room to you, and you're 100 yards away.
What was it like when the bomb went off physically?
Were you in your room?
Were you in the office?
Where were you?
I was asleep in one of those old army cots with the mosquito netting.
This is a building that had been occupied by the PLO, and of course the Israelis blew it apart, so it looked like the Alamo.
My goodness.
There was debris all over the place, holes on the walls, you know, that kind of thing.
But the blast was so powerful it blew us off our foundation 10 inches ceiling down on us.
How big a building?
It was a two-story, three-fingered concrete and steel building.
It turned out it was the civil aviation building for the Lebanese.
So blown off.
I saw that until that day because it blew some of the rooms apart.
We saw some Link trainers in there.
Oh, the old Link trainer.
My goodness.
So, okay, so it blows the building off its foundations.
It caves in the roof.
How did you survive?
Well, that's another story.
I did a cartwheel across the room.
The wall literally hit me upside the head, and I flew out of my bunk.
And on my way through the air, I grabbed my helmet and flak jacket and had them on when I hit the floor.
Wow.
Wow.
That's fast thinking.
I scrambled across the debris and got out of the building.
I thought we'd been hit by an artillery round until I got outside.
What did you see?
Well, there was nothing but dust all over the place.
When a building that size blows up, it leaves this huge debris like you saw in the World Trade Center when it came there.
That's what I saw.
It was like a fog over everything.
And a guy came running out of the fog and said, BLT is down.
That was the building.
Because I was going to tell, I had a wounded guy with me, and I was going to take him to Battalion Aid, which was in the basement of BLT.
And, of course, they were destroyed.
And then I remember the first aid station was behind me in the supply compound.
So I turned around and led this guy to the supply compound.
And there was a bunch of people following me out of the cloud.
You know, there was a line of Marines just following me like they were zombies.
Kind of felt like the Pied Piper at the time.
I wasn't thinking about that.
I was just trying to get this guy to some help.
And, of course, I was hurt too, but I wasn't paying attention to that.
What do you think now when you read or hear about the Hezbollah in Lebanon?
It makes me angry that we never finished the job.
And, you know, my personal feelings are we should back off and just let Israel do its job.
I mean, they know the problem.
They've been with it for years, and they know who these guys are.
Did you know that the Marine unit that was involved there by the press reports I'm reading, the Marine unit that was killed and Lynn's brother among the dead, that same unit, at least it's the same number, I think, is helping to evacuate Americans out of Lebanon in the first days of the war.
Yeah, they were at 2-4 Mao, and I know them.
They're 2-4 Mew now.
Also, the same battalion landing team, BLT-18, they're there too with the Ilojima.
That must be odd.
I'll tell you, that must be very odd.
Yeah, you know, it killed all our corpsmen.
So those of us who survive tried to be corpsmen, even though we weren't trained that way.
How many wounded?
Oh, there were over 300.
300?
Yeah.
Yeah.
My goodness.
Well, Joe, what are you doing these days?
I'm volunteering on the USS Midway.
I feel like I'm back on active duty.
Yeah, good for you.
That ship, yeah, you go on that ship, and it does feel like active duty out there.
You see all those things.
But Lynn has told us about these two bills to at least try to bring some financial accountability to the picture, if not of a higher order of accountability.
What do you know about any of that?
You know, I haven't really followed the politics.
I keep in touch with my team.
They call me when things like this happen, and we talk, and we send emails back and forth.
I'm just supporting the troops, and I know you do, too, and I thank you for that.
Well, you bet.
Well, Lynn, I don't know.
I don't know what to say at this point.
I mean, do you feel like we ought to just let the Israelis do the job now or what?
Oh, gosh.
You know, I'm not a politician.
I'm, you know, a soccer mom.
I'm just trying to make sense of it all.
That's a really difficult question.
I do think that we need, by whatever means, to take away Hezbollah's ability to keep killing us.
And I think that's a many-pronged approach.
I don't think we can only do that militarily.
I think that's why these bills are so important to me.
One of the reasons I think we need to do it financially.
I mean, I think they're Achilles' helis financial.
And, you know, the problem with going at it primarily or solely militarily is that, you know, they send home too many boys in boxes.
So, you know, my gut reaction is we got to stop them, however, we've got to stop them.
And I think if there's a way to do it without, you know, more people like me having to bury the closed casket, then that's the best way to do it.
I don't know, though.
I'm glad I'm not the head of state right now, and it brings me to my knees.
It makes me pray for him because what a hard job.
I'm Roger Hedgecock back live for Rush Limbaugh.
While the New York Times lionizes the leader of Hezbollah, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the real Hezbollah has been you've now just heard from two people.
You're going to hear more in the next segment when we talk about what Hezbollah is doing today in this war, even though in the press accounts the war they started, they're victims of.
Not quite.
More facts on the Rush Show after this.
Roger Hedgecock in for Rush Limbaugh here at the EIB Network, 1-800-282-2882, our phone number.
And to David now in Dearborn, Michigan, representing the public schools up there.
We had previously talked about these two who were arrested, who were Dearborn, apparently came out of Dearborn High Schools at Fordson High School up there.
David, welcome to the program.
Thank you very much, Mr. Hedgecock.
I appreciate the opportunity to be on today.
Yes, sir.
I just was calling to say I had heard that some comments were made about some activities taking place at our high schools.
And as far as some rallies taking place at our high schools, pro-Hizbal rallies and things like that, that is not true.
That is not accurate.
Our schools are not even in session until September.
And we never have had any rallies take place at our high schools on our school property.
We, as a public institution, our job is teaching and learning.
And that's what we are all about, and that's what's taking place here at our schools.
All right, good.
The statement I made, and again, I got this from Debbie Schlussel.com, is this.
Huseiki's alma mater, Dearborn's Fordson High School, is the most Muslim-populated public high school in America.
Hate is prevalent in the tax-funded school.
Many of its students have been participating in the pro-Hezboll rallies in town.
The school is, quote, Hezbollah high, unquote.
So there have been rallies in town, I take it, in Dearborn.
That is accurate.
There has been some rallies within the city limits, but they are not sponsored by our high schools or by the school district or by the city government in any way.
Oh, okay.
Well, we didn't say that.
We said that they were pro-Hezbola rallies in town.
Okay.
The repercussions it has in this city when something like that is said is alarming.
I mean, you're a very powerful network, and Rush has a very strong following, and I can understand why.
Well, and we want to correct or be as accurate as possible.
So there were pro-Hezbola rallies in Dearborn.
And that statement is made.
I just know that there were rallies.
I don't know if they were pro-Hezbohr rallies or not.
I know there were some rallies held in Dearborn.
Now, David, I'm not going to comment on what they were.
David, they were on the national news.
David, this is not a secret I'm revealing here on the Rush Show.
Well, okay, I understand that.
So they were pro-Hezbola rallies.
They were in Dearborn.
Would you say that your students participated?
I would not know if they did or not.
It's very possible that some of our students may have participated, but I don't know that for a fact.
Can you confirm that Ali Husseiki was in your school and was the Fordson High School football team co-captain in 2003?
Yeah, I believe that that is accurate.
I have not checked to see, but I believe that that is accurate, that he was a former student.
And Osama Sabi Abul Hassan, was he likewise a student at Fordson?
I don't know that.
You don't understand that name?
No, I just don't know if he was a student here or not.
You're aware that these two have been arrested under some very interesting circumstances, right?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It's terrible.
Okay.
Well, anyway, I'm happy, David, to make the clarification that we're talking about rallies in town in Dearborn, but we were talking about these two folks.
And school is out.
Now, when it comes back, do you find it difficult in the school?
I mean, do you teach in this school?
I'm the communications coordinator for the entire district.
Oh, okay.
So you're the spokesperson?
Absolutely.
For the district.
That's correct.
In this school, have there been difficulties with respect to having the Muslim population that you have?
When I say difficulties, I mean, have there been incidents of difficulties between non-Muslim and Muslim students?
Well, I would say that perhaps in Dearborn, in our schools, that that took place 20 years ago.
That Because the Arab community has been in this city since the 1920s and most prevalent since probably the mid-60s and 70s.
It was at that time that there were high tensions among Arab Americans and non-Arab Americans.
But within our school district now, we don't have those kinds of conflicts because these are our neighbors.
These are our friends.
These are people that we know.
We grow up with them.
They're American citizens and nothing more than that.
So those kinds of conflicts, we don't see those within our schools.
Are there do racial conflicts occur or ethnic conflicts occur among kids?
Yes, but it's nothing different than what occurs in other high schools among high school kids arguing about girls or football or what have you.
Or cell phones or plane flights, or okay.
David, thanks.
I appreciate what you're saying because, again, we need to say, and I'm sure it's true because it's true in San Diego, not all Muslims, obviously, are terrorists.
The problem I'm having is that all the terrorists seem to be Muslim.
Well, it sometimes including possibly two of your graduates.
Well, I hope that's not the fact.
I hope that that doesn't turn out to be the case.
It would be very unfortunate if it is.
Yeah.
No, I agree with that.
David, thanks.
I appreciate the call, my friend.
Thank you for calling Russia.
Yes, sir.
Robert in Miami, next on the Rush Show.
Robert, hi.
Hello, Robert.
Welcome to the program.
Hey, Roger, how are you doing today?
Good.
Well, I just want to say that, look, I've been a liberal all my adult life ever since I ever knew what politics was, and I've been against a lot of what this administration has done.
But what I don't understand is why do the liberals want to support the side that are against everything that we're about?
Like, all of these, like, why are we so mad that, you know, we went into Iraq.
Saddam is gone.
We needed him out of there.
He's gone.
We need to get him out.
Yes, we need to go after Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda and all that.
But we needed to get Saddam out.
He's out.
We're finishing what we went into doing Iraq with.
We need to finish that now.
And we can't go out early.
If we do, then it's just going to go chaotic.
So we need to all pull together.
Instead of just everyone to the right, everyone to the left, forget it.
We're all American.
That's what we need to remember.
Everybody's American.
Forget right, left.
We need to pull together and get this thing done so these terrorists don't kill us anymore because they are going to kill us.
There's no doubt about it.
Peace is peace that.
Yes, we want peace, but we need to get rid of the terrorists.
And until we get rid of the terrorists, there's never going to be peace.
Well, Robert, I 100% agree with you.
I appreciate what you're saying.
My problem with what you're saying is that I believe that the Bush administration, you know, you can go through and criticize their methods and so forth, but they have focused on the point you have made.
They are trying and have been successful in deterring attacks in this country.
They're going after the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere.
The people who are opposed to that, who think we're on the wrong track, who believe we've created the terrorism, who believe that our invasion of Iraq is causing terrorism, who believe that, in fact, Bush actually bombed the World Trade Center himself personally, are people who are liberals, Robert.
Well, that's true.
But you've got to remember, I mean, George Bush has been president for six years, and he has made a lot of decisions on a lot of things that has nothing to do with Iraq.
I mean, I'm talking about him on a lot of things that have to do with other things that's not about this war.
But on the war, Robert, on the war.
I think it's just that I'm the type of person that I can't think about the past anymore.
Just whatever he's done, whatever has happened in the past, I can't worry about that.
I have to worry about what's going to happen now.
I have to worry about what we can do to worry about the future.
I don't care what has happened in the past.
I can't go back and change any election.
I can't go back and change any bodies.
I can't do any of that.
None of us can.
We need to worry about what's happening now and go forward.
And that's it.
And if he's on the right track now, which I hope he are.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what's going to happen.
I hope America's on the right track where we go after the right people and we don't mess up and go into the wrong country.
I'm not in the right area.
I'm not with the government.
All right, Robert, let me focus you, though, because I'm agreeing with you on what we need to do, and that is pull together to win this war and stop these people who are going to kill us if we don't.
But we had an election this week in Connecticut in which a liberal senator, Mr. Lieberman, was defeated in the primary.
It's only happened like three or four times in the history of the country.
In the primary, he was defeated by specifically a liberal Democrat, Mr. Lamont, who said that he was running specifically because what we ought to do is get our troops out of Iraq now.
Now, that's where liberals are going.
Well, there's a lot of liberals that are going that way, but you've got to remember there's a lot of candidates and a lot of senators on the left that have said that, and then when it comes to voting time, they vote the other way.
I mean, I just don't think they're getting all the facts.
I mean, now that this guy's actually, he's going to be the candidate, maybe he can get all the facts, and maybe he'll start learning, well, we can't pull them all now.
I mean, that's just not logical.
How can we do that?
That just leaves open ground for like, I mean, that's just a terrorist playground if we do that.
No, amen to that, Robert.
And I got to tell you, I agree with you 100%.
I appreciate what you're saying.
I thank you for calling the show.
I hope other liberals are having these same kinds of thoughts, my friend.
We're going to take a short break on the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, back after this.
Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Roger Hedgecock in for Rush Today.
Now, the essence, ladies and gentlemen, let me just distill this entire Hezbollah thing down to the essence of the character of these people.
As human beings, what kind of people are they?
Let me refer you to a letter published in Der Tagespiegel in Berlin.
It's a Berlin daily newspaper here last week.
It was a letter to the editor from Dr. Munir Herzala, identifying himself as a Shiite from southern Lebanon who had left there in 2002.
In other words, as the Israelis left in 2000, he was still there.
And he talks about in the letter Hezbollah moving into his town, lived in a little village in southern Lebanon, the very area that's now the subject of the war, and how Hezbollah had dug rocket depots in bunkers and then built a school and a residence over the bunker in his village.
And then the letter went on, and I'll quote it now so you get the full impact of this.
This is a Shiite.
This is someone who came out of southern Lebanon in 2002, and he writes about what Hezbollah did during the ceasefire.
When the Israelis left Lebanon for peace, land for peace.
By the way, the Arabic word for ceasefire actually is also the word for reload, in case you just wanted to get the idea.
Here is the letter.
Dr. Herzala.
Quote, laughing, a local sheik explained to me that the Jews would lose in any event because the rockets would either be fired at them or if they attacked the rocket depot, they would be condemned by world opinion on account of the dead civilians.
Hezbollah wins either way.
In other words, they either get to fire the rockets and kill Israelis, or the Israelis come down and kill the Lebanese and then lose in the court of public opinion.
Dr. Herzala continues, quote, these people, meaning Hezbollah, these people do not care about the Lebanese population.
They use them as shields and, once dead, as propaganda.
They use them as shields and then once dead, as propaganda, unquote.
This is the true nature of the enemy we face.
These are people who would sacrifice Muslims because they're going to a better place.
They're going to paradise.
They're martyrs because in their death, we can reap the benefit.
We can get somebody at a Reuters photographer to come in and take a doctored picture.
We can get the gullible CNN reporter to come in on a staged event here and see all the rubble.
And it's the rubble we used last week, but they won't know that.
And we'll be digging people out of there who we buried in there just a few minutes ago.
We're going to be able to stage the kinds of things that will really inflame those liberals in the United States.
We've got to get past this, ladies and gentlemen.
Our foe is much more determined and ruthless and barbaric than we ever thought possible.
Michael in Nashville, Tennessee, you're next on the Rush program.
Michael, hi.
Hi, Mr. Hedgecock.
Pleasure to speak with you.
Thank you.
Last time you and I spoke, I was in college and you were the mayor of San Diego.
That was a while back, my friend.
Yes, sir, it was.
I have suspicions, and I'm hoping you can leave them for me.
I'm thinking back to the 2004 election, and it seemed like about two business days after every time the Democrats would capture the headlines, we would go into a terrorist alert.
They would say there would be no specific threat, but we would go to level orange.
And it was always two business days.
For example, two business days after the Democratic National Convention, two business days after Kerry picked Edwards as his running mate.
And now here, two business days after we have a referendum about Bush's policy in Iraq, suddenly we have a terrorist threat that apparently has been investigated for months.
And suddenly now, you know, at this particular time, it comes out, and I have suspicions about the timing.
Well, I don't know about those timing situations.
We've had a number of different levels of threat for the last, what, five years?
But on this one, it would seem a little odd if it was more than coincidence in the sense that the Brits are the ones that arrested 21 people today and said that their investigation, which had gone on for some weeks, had culminated in dropping the dime on these guys because they were about ready to get on planes and blow them up, six to ten planes crossing the Atlantic.
Now, I don't know.
If the planes had blown up, let's take this scenario.
Michael, if the planes had blown up today, would we then hear Lamont coming on in a press conference saying, see, if only we got out of Iraq, the planes wouldn't have blown up and they wouldn't hate us so much.
Two business days later.
What a coincidence.
Uh-huh.
Well, I mean, I don't doubt that there's a terrorist threat out there.
I just think that perhaps it's being used to the benefit of, you know.
Are you one of those people that believes that Bush was involved in a government plot to blow up the World Trade Center?
No, I don't.
Okay, so I wanted to see just how far over on this conspiracy level you are.
Because, I mean, I've listened to the most wacko stuff that I've ever heard in my life in terms of 9-11, and I'm wondering, boy, I'll tell you what, parallel universes here like layers of an onion.
But in your case, you're just suspicious of the timing.
I think you ought to look at the facts of this one.
Forget about the last times when these reports were just handed out by the Homeland Security folks just saying, hey, we've got a problem.
In this case, we have real arrests, a real plot, real threats, real stuff.
This isn't just talk.
Were they actually planning on boarding the plane today?
That's what we're talking about.
The Brits are saying we nipped this thing in the bud.
So I don't know, Michael, I don't see the same thing you see.
This one seemed to be not Bush's deal, but Blair's, and not ours, but the U.K.'s, even though the planes were coming this way.
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Just saw this quote in from Congressman John Dingell, Democrat of Michigan, who said, Michigan now, back to Dearborn, quote, says Dingell, I don't take sides for or against Hezbollah or for or against Israel.
Really, Mr. Dingell, who do you represent, really?
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