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Aug. 2, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 2, 2006, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Oh, Dingy Harry is so perturbed.
He is so mad the Republicans are playing a dreadful dastardly trick on him.
And the Democrats, and it's just not right.
Dingy Harry is calling it political Mac Blackmail, claiming that the Republican tactics reek of political political desperation.
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We have Charles some Lake Wake Main.
And uh Charles, I'm I'm I'm wanting you early because a lot of people are upset about this.
Hello, sir, and welcome to the program.
Yeah, it's Wait Mean.
Yeah, I'm first time long time listener, first time calling.
Thank you.
I just had a little I got a little perturbed about these.
They're calling him Bush's bombs.
For one, Bush hasn't dropped one bomb over there.
And if if Bush was going to drop bombs, we'd send our B-52s over there with hundreds of thousands of tons of bombs, and two things would happen.
Lebanon would be a sandbox, and we'd teach uh terrorists a whole new meaning to the word terror.
Yeah, you know, so it's a good point.
Uh, but I want to tell you why I'm doing it.
He's upset.
Thank you very much, Charles.
Upset that I'm referring to the uh weapons the Israelis are using as Bush's bombs.
Uh, there's a reason for this.
I predicted that this would be a term that the drive-by media would eventually adopt, because that's what the Hesbos are saying.
The Hesbos and the militant Islamo fascists around the world are calling these Bush bombs.
And uh, if you doubt me, here this what I said, this was uh a prediction made uh on my program uh this was Monday.
Bush's bombs.
What do you bet that we get that slogan before the week is out, Bush's bombs killed innocent civilians in Kana.
Bush's bombs.
Okay, let's go to the Charlie Rose show last night on PBS.
Interviewed the New York Times reporter Neil McFarquar on the phone from Jerusalem.
And Charlie said, How much has Kana increased the hatred of the United States?
Every one of the reports on the Arab satellite channels were saying this is American bombs that kill these children.
I've lived in this region for a really long time since I was a little boy, really.
And if you talk to people my age, which is I'm in my mid-40s and and who grew up in poor countries like Morocco, you know, they'll tell you that when they went to school in the mornings, they used to get milk, and they they called it Kennedy milk because it was the Americans that sent them milk.
And in 40 years, we've gone from you know Kennedy milk to the Bush administration and rushing bombs to this part of the world.
There you there you go, uh Charles.
Uh I just I'm I know these people.
I just know them.
Made this prediction Monday, said it happened before the end of the week.
Here it is Wednesday happened last night.
Bush's bombs, Kennedy's milk, as though we've stopped sending mil.
We are sending aid to Lebanon.
This is an untold story as well.
We have sent aid and relief to Lebanon.
We send more foreign aid today than John F. Kennedy ever dreamed of this country having to send.
We send milk, we send all kinds of things all over the country.
No, we don't anymore.
It's just Bush's bombs.
So uh you can get mad at me all you want.
I'm just telling you, uh these are the guys promulgating it.
Now, as to the B-52s, in the first Gulf War, I don't know if you people will remember this, but uh we had a bunch of B-52s at Iraq.
And uh they they left a uh an Air Force base in Germany, and they had cameras outside the base with extended lenses, and just the sight of those B-52s gave me shivers.
Just the sight of those buffs gave me the tingle up the spine.
The B-52.
Uh and Charles is exactly right.
When you get hit by a load from a B-52.
I mean, I've never been hit by a load of B-52, but I uh I've talked to people who uh can describe it and have described it for me.
Uh and it is now the unfortunately Israelis don't have any B-52s, and so there won't be any in this in this theater.
Umless this thing breaks out into a whole regional conflagration.
And the Syrians are trying to make it look like they're interested in that.
Uh and uh the Iranians are trying to make it look like they're interested in that.
Uh right now, just uh heavy breathing and puffing the chest up and blowing the house down and so forth.
The Israelis all of a sudden say, hey, give us a couple more weeks and we'll be able to wrap this up.
Uh UN continuing to press for the worthless, meaningless ceasefire.
Uh it's it's it's gonna continue.
I think the Israelis probably making more uh progress and having more success than even they want to admit right now, or that anybody else will admit, but uh he's right.
He's right about the B-52s.
Uh moving on to domestic politics.
Dingy Harry is just livid.
Now, by the way, in this this story, it is it it does happen.
Sometimes the Republicans do stuff that make us happy.
The only problem is that eventually they cave.
And we'll see what happens here.
The only opportunity this year is the House Republicans have already done a House Republicans have proposed a $2 increase in a minimum wage, right?
We know this.
I predicted this would happen last week it happened.
The only opportunity this year to increase the minimum wage and renew popular tax breaks will be linked to a reduction in the estate tax, said the Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist yesterday, said he would schedule a Friday vote to see whether a bill combining the three items already passed by the House can win the support of 60 senators.
Without that backing, the bill slides off the Senate's agenda.
As Frist said, it's now or never.
Dingy Harry, the Democratic leader, criticized the Republican take it or leave it approach.
He said the only road to legislative heaven in this Republican dominated Congress is to repeal the estate tax.
The major political battle for both parties.
They head toward an election with the control of Congress at stake.
Republicans hope to neutralize one of the Democrats' biggest issues, the minimum wage, while scoring a victory on one of their own, the estate tax.
Here's what happens.
The bill will link a $2.10 cent increase in the hourly federal minimum wage, now $5.15, phased in over three years with a reduction of estate taxes.
It would exempt $5 million of an individual's estate and $10 million of a couple's estate from taxation by 2015.
Over the same time, the top estate tax rate would fall from 46% this year to 30%.
Carried along in the package are a host of popular tax breaks that expired last year.
They include a research and development credit for business along with deductions for college tuition, state sales taxes, and classroom supplied purchased by teachers.
Democratic leaders said they plan to fight the bill, criticizing the GOP for helping minimum wage workers only to deliver a tax cut to the wealthiest taxpayers.
Now this I I hope the Republicans don't cave on this.
This is such a golden opportunity to make an illustration.
The Democrats claim we've got to raise the minimum wage.
We have to raise the minimum wage.
Okay, here comes your chance.
Well, raise it what you want, $2.10.
We just need to cut the estate tax.
We will find out.
The question is, will liberal Democrats actually side with the poor and the minimum wage earners in America?
The single moms, the teachers, parents with kids in college, middle class consumers.
Will they side with those people?
Or will they cast them aside?
Will they stick it to them?
Will they once again lift them up with hope and opportunity and slice them down to size all because the rich are getting a tax cut at the same time?
You see, it's class envy at its best.
No, you teachers, no you middle class workers, no you entry-level job workers, no single mothers.
We cannot give you an increase in the minimum wage because the rich are getting a tax cut.
The single moms, the teachers, the parents with kids in college, the uh entry-level workers.
Reaction should be, what the hell does that have to do with it?
I need more money.
I want my minimum wage increased.
What the hell does anybody else get have to do with this?
Well, we simply can't go along with this.
This is Republican trickery and chicanery.
This is blackmail.
Yes, we know you need the minimum wage raised, but we are not going to have the rich get a tax break at the same time.
But wait a minute.
I may have one of those benefits under the estate tax cut when I get older.
I'm only earning 575 an hour, 515 now, and I hope to be a millionaire when I get old.
I could benefit from both of these.
No.
No, no, sorry.
Your minimum wage will stay what it is until the rich do not get a tax because let's see if the Democrats do that.
My guess is they'll do it.
My guess is they'll punt this whole bill.
My guess is they'll say, screw it, uh, all because the rich, the so-called rich are having an estate tax reduction.
Anyway, there's more to this story.
Tip money earned by waitresses in Vegas, manicurists in Hollywood, and bartenders in Seattle is on the table in the nation's capital as lawmakers scrap over an election year minimum wage bill.
Now, wait a minute.
What about waitresses in Manhattan and manicures in Las Vegas and bartenders in Hollywood?
Nevada, California, and Washington are among seven states whose work uh where workers get to keep their tips on top of getting paid their states full minimum wage.
In other states, tip-earning workers get paid less and make up the difference with tips.
A provision uh gratuities for those of you in uh real Linda tip might mean something totally different to a real Linden.
Uh a provision, a provision and GOP written minimum wage legislation passed by the House and under consideration of the Senate could change the law in those seven states.
The others are Montana, Alaska, Minnesota, and Oregon.
It would uh deal a pay cut of three dollars or more an hour to thousands of waiters, bell hops, and hairdressers in those states, according to Democrats and labor groups.
Well, you see, no matter what, Republicans are gonna screw you no matter what happens, folks.
If you're a waiter, if you're a teacher, if you're a single mom with kids, if you're an entry-level worker, if you're a manicurist, if you're a masseuse, a massage therapist, let's just get it on the table.
Republicans are gonna screw you.
Meanwhile, the Democrats come along with a chance to raise your minimum wage, nope.
Democrats are gonna screw you too, all because all because of a 30-year-old playbook that misreads the entire scope of the uh uh middle class, upper middle class, and the standard of living opportunities and desires the American people have.
We'll be back here and continue in just a minute.
By the way, you might run into a Dick Morris column soon that uh has as its primary thesis that if the Republicans do not raise the minimum wage, they can look for work.
It'll be thrown out of Washington.
And here is why.
Here's why he says it, you know, Dick is uh is a pollster among many other things.
And there are recent polls.
Uh, this is uh this is an Al Reuters story out of uh Kansas City.
Recent polls show where, by the way, it it uh will be a hundred degrees uh today.
Uh uh as it will in St. Louis, uh as it could be 98 Chicago, gonna be a hundred.
I mean, there are two-thirds of this country gonna be hotter than where we are here in the tropics in South Florida.
Screw the hurricane, Mr. Snerdley.
It's not, it's it's it's it's it's it is what it is.
It's gonna hit or it's not, but it looks like you know what's interesting about this hurricane?
Now look, I have to add a disclaimer here.
I am not a scientist, and I am not a hurricaneologist.
But I can, you know, I access all kinds of stuff and I make studies.
Now, last year, with Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Wilma, and a number of these devastating storms, the model that the National Hurricane Center relied on the most seemed to be the GFDL model.
And I don't know what that stands for.
A whole bunch of models out there, they're computer models.
They input all the data they have and it spits out the track, uh, the speed, the intensity, and so forth.
Last year, the GFDL, if you if you track those storms and look at the National Hurricane Center's forecast track very, very damn close to the GFDL model.
This hurricane, Hurricane Chris is currently tropical storm Chris.
Uh the GFDL model has this, in fact, all the models have this thing going way south of the National Hurricane Center's forecast track.
There's only one model that has the uh uh track going north of the hurricane center track, the forecast track, and that model has it uh, you know, th homestead to the the South, the very tip of South Florida uh by Saturday or Sunday.
The rest of the models have this storm creaming the Dominican Republic in Haiti and the GFDL, the model last year even takes a southwesterly or west-southwesterly turn south of Hispaniola, which is the Dominican Republic in Haiti for those of you in well, for any of you in the public school system in the last 20 years that studied geography, or didn't study geography.
So the the Hurricane Center has been loath to move this track south.
It when they their first track came out, it was a B-line for us.
And they've been inching it south and south and south, but it does not correspond with their models.
Now, as a consumer, not a scientist, as just an interested resident here in Hurricane Alley, I look at this and I try to understand why.
There's most of the uh most of the tracks in the past that generally agree with the consensus of all the models, but this one doesn't.
And I can't help this is just my fertile mind out there wandering around.
And I it seems that there may be something political here.
The last see, I I don't think they're sure, and of course it's four days out.
How can they be sure?
The Bermuda High is keeping it from turning north.
They don't know how long the high is going to last.
They can't predict all this stuff.
It's uh this far out with global warming in 20 years, but not this stuff.
So I think they're covering their bases.
Uh because they want people in South Florida ready and prepared for this, maybe, because there's not going to be any more New Orleans as far as the hurricane center is concerned, or the federal government's concerned.
So I think they're keeping that track a little closer to Florida based on where their models are, just to keep us, like people like you, uh, Mr. Snerdley, on on your toes and not relax as it is, the current track has it right through the Keys.
Right through uh Key West.
Now I study this stuff, but I don't worry about it.
I'm fast.
In fact, I'm I'm not going anywhere this weekend.
If this thing gets close to hit, I'm gonna say I got I got plans.
I'll cancel them to stay here.
At any rate, uh uh uh Dick Morris.
Forgot my place for only a moment.
Recent polls out there show that eighty percent of Americans favor at least a two dollar per hour increase in the minimum wage, which has uh been unchanged since 1997, currently at five dollars and fifteen cents.
The purchasing power of the minimum wage estimated to be at its lowest level since 1955.
That's before Kennedy was sending milk to uh the Middle East.
Uh, when taking inflation into account, of course, and economic analysts say that a triple whammy of rising costs for health care, housing, transportation combined with rising interest rates, slow job growth, slow job growth.
We are at statistically full employment.
I s who is this all Reuters.
You know, you you read far enough, and you'll find something that disqualifies the whole thesis of the story.
Slowing stalling job growth.
Darcy and Virginia Beach, Virginia, as we go back to the phones.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi.
Rush history will be kind to George W. Bush.
I agree, sir.
Everybody comes here, compares him to Ronald Reagan.
That and that's his problem.
He's not a charismatic person or a great communicator.
But he got the major issues of today right where Reagan failed.
He got the judges right, he's letting Israel have her go, he's getting immigration right, and he got the war on terror right.
Bush is not a physical conservative, but money's not everything.
Uh one thing about the judges, I'm glad you mentioned this.
I meant To mention this last week, and I forgot, I'm glad you brought it up.
The uh number of Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I think even in the House have sent the president a letter uh begging him to get some judges up there and nominated and get the confirmation process going.
Because if the House is lost, the Senate is lost in uh in this 06 election.
Uh there goes the chance to reshape the judiciary with the Democrats are in control of it, and there are some people that are that there are two wait a whole lot of openings, many circuit court openings, federal judgeships, even uh uh circuits, appeal courts, appeals court uh openings, and they're they haven't even received any nominations for them.
People upset about that.
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All right, now CNN.
CNN just reported a Hesbows fired more rockets into Israel today than ever before.
More rockets in one day than ever before.
A total of 215 rockets.
Now, when the Israelis launch airstrikes, we're told bush bombs, American bombs, are dropping on innocent poor whoa, no, it got a ceasefire.
We never hear a call for a ceasefire after 215 rockets.
Where did they land, CNN?
What did they do?
Did what did they just land in the in the in the countryside someplace?
215 rockets.
What did they hit?
Uh didn't hear.
215 rockets sounds like, of course, I forget the Hesbows are entitled.
Uh they are the victims.
Get the next two stories are unbelievable.
Henry Paulson, the new U.S. Treasury Secretary making his public debut, as the uh Bush administration's top economic spokesman said that soaring benefit costs were a key economic threat, and offered his support for a strong U.S. dollar.
He said the biggest economic issue facing our country is the growth in spending on the major entitlement programs, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
Uh these, of course, are the uh government programs that help the ailing and the elderly uh with uh medical and living costs.
Now here's the in this guy's this Paulson guy is a wacko environmentalist on th on some things, and he's he's uh he's Goldman Sachs, former Goldman Sachs CEO.
Not the most conservative of guys, uh, and yet he's coming out here said the benefits, that's the problem.
If we don't get a handle on this, and he's not the first to say it, don't miss a note, I know that, but here comes yet another warning.
The Democrats trying to force benefits on Walmart and other American businesses.
Democrats trying to force more and more uh benefits.
But the real interesting thing is the next story, it's from Newsweek.
I found it on the MSNBC.com website, and uh it's by Robert Samuelson.
It doesn't surprise me that Robert Samuelson would write this.
I love Robert Samuelson.
He writes for the Washington Post.
He's a brilliant economist and and uh and columnist.
He's written some things to disagree with, of course, but uh on the big things, global warming and a number of things he's just right on the money.
And I just need to give you one quote from his piece.
It's the fact that it runs in Newsweek that amazes me.
One lesson is that what people do for themselves often overshadows what government does for them.
Since 1991, for example, the teen birth rate has dropped by a third.
The mothers least capable of supporting children have had fewer of them.
Welfare reform didn't single-handedly cause this, but it reinforced a broader shift in the social climate, one emphasizing personal responsibility over victimhood.
Why, conservatism rears its head, works every time it's tried.
One little known fact is that we have made gains against poverty in recent decades, and welfare reform deserves some credit.
The poverty rate among blacks has fallen sharply, though it's still discouragingly high.
From 1968 to 1994, it barely budged, averaging 32.4%, but by 2000, it was twenty-two and a half percent.
Similarly, there have been uh big drops in child poverty.
Since 1989, the number of children in poverty has fallen twelve percent for non-Hispanic whites and fourteen percent for blacks.
One lesson is that what people do for themselves often overshadows what government does for them.
Oh my god, we've been trying to get people to appreciate and understand this for fifty years and it might be taking root out there.
And you put this back to back with Henry Paulson say, hey benefits uh big big big problem.
He what he doesn't say is some of you people who can might want to start taking care of yourselves for the good of the country.
Just think about it more later.
Uh Gary in Hartford Connecticut welcome to the EIB network hi.
How are you doing today?
Fine sir.
I'm a Vietnam veteran.
I was a Marine Corps sergeant over there and I spent six years in the Marine Corps and I feel that we're going down the same road that we went down there.
My government told me back then that if we didn't win that war in Vietnam that the communism was going to spread through all of Asia and then come over here from Cuba.
Yeah.
Now obviously I don't think there's anyone in America that can honestly say we won that war.
Okay?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now what's going on in Iraq right now whether it was right wrong or indifferent to corner in the first place I I have no real idea on that.
I mean it's not a Bush war it's a congressional war.
Everybody voted flying to get the people over there.
But right now we're sending more troops into Baghdad to try to call the violence which is nice but who are we going to kill?
Are we going to kill the Shiites or the Sunnis?
Because right now the way I look at it the insurgents are sitting back watching these two groups fight each other.
I mean the insurgents are probably involved somewhat but most of these killings that are going on in Baghdad right now the dreaded civil war.
No I I'm not saying the civil war and I think it's to that point, you know.
But what I'm saying they're killing each other.
Okay.
So I don't know who are we going to back or not going to back in that situation.
But I I I don't know what the answer is to what's going on.
And as far as Israel Lebanon Israel has the right to what they're doing.
But what's going to happen if tomorrow the next day or the day after I mean Lebanon has no airplanes they have nothing.
I mean if they can't fight back okay but what's going to happen today, tomorrow whatever were Syria or Iran who have the capability of fighting war in that region decide to say we're gonna go over there and help out in Lebanon I I'm just I I really don't know what the answer to the problems is over there and that you know I don't think Israel is wrong for what they're doing.
But I'm saying what's going to happen when it's the fan company other wait you know if Israel's not wrong for what they're doing you've got to take a stand somewhere.
No but what I'm saying too no I'm not taking I'm not saying taking a stand or not taking a stand.
What I'm saying is what's going to happen if Syria and Iran one or the other or both seriously get involved in this conflict then where then where are we going to go?
I mean I you know well i uh if you want to play the game I'll play the game let me ask you some questions.
If you're gonna if we're gonna have a confrontation with Iran would you rather have it before or after they have nukes what over in in Iran I my my theory is that everyone in the world should have nuclear weapons because then well but everyone no let's deal with reality.
Everybody doesn't everybody doesn't they're in the process of getting them to you if if India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons both those countries have nuclear weapons right now as we speak.
Yes and the United States have nuclear weapons obviously Russia a whole bunch of countries have them and if I was Iran and I was a president of Iran I would want nuclear weapons because I wouldn't want anybody attacking my country I mean Saddam Hussein you know he could have Saddam Hussein could have had weapons mass destruction over there okay as Frank Sinatra saying on old blue eyes's back.
If we're gonna have a conflict with Iran which you seem to think is inevitable.
No I don't think that's I don't think those guys have to brass well then what are you worried about?
No what I'm worried about not for the United States.
What I'm worried about is Iran and Syria getting involved in the world you just said that you're worried that Iran and Syria are going to enter the war when Lebanon runs out of uh the well not Lebanon but the Hezbow's run out of armaments.
Absolutely and then the United States but getting involved because we we have to back Israel they're our they're our ally and we have to protect that country.
Okay.
Well let's try to stay there then.
Okay.
Uh Hesbos run out of armaments.
Israel then has to face Syria and Lebanon or Iran.
United States has to defend the ally.
Absolutely.
All right.
So you're you're forecasting at some point a conflict between the United States and Israel and Iran and Lebanon.
Iran.
Right.
I think Syria more.
Iran and Syria.
I would think Syria more than you're forecasting that.
Absolutely.
That's absolutely.
And so if that's going to happen, would you rather it happen before Iran has nuclear weapons or afterwards?
I think they have nuclear weapons right now.
I mean, I I really do.
I think they have 'em and whether we know or we don't know about them, they haven't.
Yeah.
These United Nations needs to go over there.
Let me ask you this.
Do you do you think nuclear weapons in the possession in the hands of Iran and their mullahs and Mahmood Ahmadinizad uh make them the they have the same uh uh moral uh component uh as a nuclear nation as say the United States or Great Britain Well see the my thing is I think that we can place the when's the last time the United States when's the last time the United States threatened to nuke anybody?
No, but you're talking over here in the United States and Britain.
I'm talking Pakistan and India.
I put those in the same group as Iran and Syria.
Those guys are dangerous too.
Uh when tell me when the Indians and the Pakistanis have threatened to use their nuclear weapons.
Why does the Iranians threaten to use them?
They don't they say they don't have them, but I think they do.
You know what I'm saying?
Well uh you know, I I do know what you're saying, but I don't know where you're going.
You're you're you're you're spelling out an Armageddon to me and an apocalypse, but you don't seem to care.
I mean, you care, but you don't care.
You care, but you don't have a solution to it.
It's just bad.
It's in I uh and it's it's Vietnam.
And I'm assuming let me let me let me try one more question before I have to go to the break.
Do you do you do you do you think if we, the United States, just pulled out of there, get out of Iraq, and told the Israelis, hey pals, you're on your own that this would be over.
Absolutely not.
Well, then uh uh don't know what we can do.
I think that you know, we've built the sandwich over there now, and we've got to do what we gotta do to make it work.
And I don't think if you build a sandwich, you eat it.
I don't think the government that's in Iraq right now, the prime minister included, has enough pull with that country to make it work.
Well, maybe not, but you gotta give them time.
It's fledgling, it's new.
It's um this is not Vietnam.
What happened in what has happened in Iraq never came close to happening in Vietnam.
I all these analogies uh to Vietnam are made by people uh who have a whole bunch of emotion tied up into wanting to relive Vietnam.
A bunch of sixties retreads who haven't graduated to the two thousands, the twenty-first century, uh and and it it's uh and they're all over the place.
They're in government, they're in the media, uh, and they're trying to reclaim the power that they think they had during that era.
You got some people in this country don't want America to win this war uh because they hate George W. Bush.
There's a lot of things happening here, but I think there's far more progress going on than anybody wants to uh uh report or or maybe even believe, since pessimism and negativism seem to be attracting us like magnets these days.
Uh you talk about Baghdad falling apart and so forth.
Do you ever think maybe this is part of what has to happen?
Fallujah, who would have ever thought two years ago that Fallujah would be a safe haven?
And that's where people in Baghdad are going.
The problem's not Iraq, the problem's Baghdad, because the capital city.
These things happen.
Look at our civil war.
There are any there's there's uh a number of historical examples, but if the historical perspective of someone starts and stops with the first time they saw television news, uh then they're sadly ill and uninformed.
And I appreciate your calling out there uh uh Gary very much.
We g oh but Gary, Gary, by the way, before you go, I have to ask you, are you gonna vote in the primary uh a week from today, Lieberman and uh what's his name?
Um Lamont.
You're gonna you're gonna vote.
I'm not gonna vote in that election, no.
You're not gonna vote in the primary.
Well, I can't because you've got to be a Democrat to vote in that primary.
And like I said before, I voted for George Bush in the first election.
I'm a registered Republican.
You are Reg.
Okay, okay.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Very good.
Thanks.
Nice to have you.
You bet.
Nice to have you on the program.
A quick timeout, folks.
Do you know what's happening in Connecticut?
Jesse Jackson, the uh Reverend Jackson, and Al Sharpton are going into campaign for Lamont.
Joe's a nice guy, but he's not on the same page as it's just too rich.
Back in just a second.
All right, we got another one for you.
We have another audio sound bite, ladies and gentlemen, that uh comes close.
It doesn't equal it.
But it comes close to the two sound bites we played earlier today of Anderson Cooper and uh a New Yorker magazine guy discussing the shock and surprise they discovered, they felt when they discovered that the Hezbows are anti Semitic.
Uh, kid you not.
In fact, you know what?
Let's go back and play those before we play the new one.
It's all CNN.
Uh cuts four and five, and we'll get to number twelve.
Are you ready up there?
Are you all right?
Good.
Anderson Cooper talking with uh Jeffrey Goldberg of the New Yorker.
Anderson Cooper says, you know, I think what's been lost in a lot of this coverage lost, try hasn't been reported.
Wait till you hear these two.
These two bites.
I think what's been lost in a lot of this coverage is just how anti-Semitic Hezbollah is in its rhetoric.
It's absolutely fascinating, Anderson.
Uh the anti-Semitism.
There's two things that are fascinating about it.
One is how embedded in the the core of Hezbollah ideology, anti-Semitism is.
And I don't mean anti-Israel thinking or anti-Zionism.
I mean frank anti-Semitism.
The other thing that's so interesting about it is how blunt they are and how frank they are about uh their anti-Semitism.
They don't hide it, they don't try to mask it in any way.
They state very openly to you when you ask uh their their exact feelings about Jews, which are quite extreme.
It's absolutely fascinating, Anderson.
We are talking about a group of terrorists who have been at war with Israel for who knows how many decades.
And they're shocked.
They are stunned.
And note not just that they're anti-Semitic, but that their rhetoric is so anti-Semitic.
Why, if they just cut down the rhetoric and maybe hide their anti-Semitism, then we could support you better.
Why are you being so vocal about your anti-Semitism?
Don't you realize how much difficult you're making our job?
Here's the second soundbite question.
Well, Nasrallah himself, very point blank, matter of fact, and very open about his hatred of the Jews.
One of the things about Nasrallah that's so interesting is how straightforward he is.
And you you see that in all of his statements uh on Israel and even his statements on America.
Uh there's no attempt to uh to soften the language.
Uh and the other thing about it that's so that's so shocking, I think, when you first hear it.
All right, that's enough because I gotta get to that.
You've heard that, that's enough.
It's so sho again.
They're upset, he's so too outspoken, too out.
Just I can't believe these guys are such anti-Semites.
Later, just moments ago on CNN, uh, the anchor Kira Phillips talking to the reporter Brent Sadler.
This is about why we haven't seen any videos from Hezbollah about their military incursions, and why in the world can't we have embeds with the Hezbows?
We haven't actually seen video of these alleged Hezbollah areas, bases, and arrests being made and seeing the images to match up with what we're hearing from both sides.
Will we see that and will that be possible, or is it different with regard to access, like we have access uh within U.S. military and battles, for example, say in Iraq.
Yes, Kira, forget about embedding with Hezbollah.
Forget about getting close-up pictures of how they're setting these ketchusha rocket launching sites, when they're operating, how they're moving.
Very much of what Hezbollah has done throughout its existence is to work in very deep secrecy.
Do you believe this?
They actually expect Hezbollah to be just like America.
Why the Americans let us in, see what they're doing.
Why won't Hezbollah let us in bed to see what they're doing?
It's a terrorist group for crying out loud.
Gee, I wish Osama would have let us in on the meetings when he's planning to blow up the World Trade Center.
Fastest three hours in media, two of them in the can, got one more to go, and we'll get to it.
Right after this brief timeout, I'm gonna go back and revisit this conversation between Anderson Cooper and his buddy on uh anti Semitism and their reaction to it among the Hezbollah.
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