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July 31, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 31, 2006, Monday, Hour #3
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Mike, take the music down.
We have uh Prime Minister Netanyahu on the phone with us from his Knesset office in Jerusalem.
Only have ten minutes, so I want to get right to it.
First, welcome to the program, and great to talk to you again, sir.
Well, it's very good to talk to you, Rush.
All right.
Some observers in the United States are sensing a new Israel here, less willing to commit to total victory, as uh as in the past on the basis of the way current conflict with uh the Hezbollah groups being waged.
Is that true?
I hope not.
I've given my support as opposition leader to the government.
The people of Israel overwhelmingly have given the support for victory.
That is to remove the the threat, much as uh the U.S. uh during the Cuban Missile Crisis said, those missiles have to go.
We say Isbalah and those missiles have to go, because otherwise there'll be no uh no peace for Lebanon, no peace for Israel, no peace for anyone.
We're hearing um I'm hearing some some uh discontent in this country that the some concern that the current Prime Minister isn't willing to unleash the uh full complement of Israeli ground forces.
Um if that's true, what's the reason?
I don't know.
We're in the middle of a war, and I don't want to uh start second guessing.
I think the important thing is to fix your eye on the goal.
The goal set by the government is to remove uh eliminate the missile threat and eliminate and break Hezbollah's fighting ability.
And whatever means uh required, uh then those means should be used.
Land, air, sea, you name it.
Uh I think it's uh it's important to understand, Rush, that we're not just dealing with uh Hezbollah Islamic militant threat.
We're dealing with an Iranian uh backed assault on a Western country, and we're just the first target, and they openly say that we're the first targets.
We're the small state.
You are the big state.
Europe, though it doesn't understand it is a middle-sized state, though it doesn't uh really side up with us when uh two million of our people are uh hunkered down in bunkers, when uh our rock cities are rocketed or killed and are murdered, uh, and when we respond against these terrorists who are hiding uh deliberately in civilian areas, uh they attack us.
They're actually in doing so attack themselves.
I don't think I don't think that uh the U.S. has any such uh uh misunderstandings, any such lack of clarity.
I hope that the Israeli government doesn't have lack of clarity.
We need clarity in our target, and the target is to remove our common enemy committed to our destruction, uh, and something that uh we have to remove as a clear and present threat uh to our future, to our security.
I couldn't agree with you more.
I'm not I'm not trying to foment discord between you and the prime minister either.
Um it's just that so many of us who support you uh remember uh past Israeli involvement, six-day war, you know, Kipper war, uh and it w it just looks different this time, and so we ask questions why, because like you, we all know that the focus of this is Syria and Iran.
We don't hear our government talking to us like that.
We don't hear our government telling us that uh in this country.
Do you ever sit there wondering as an individual?
I know this are these are maybe tough questions for you because you're you're uh leader Likud party and and you all are very united uh today in this latest battle with uh with with Hezbollah.
Do you ever wonder yours to yourself why the U.S. doesn't act now to take out the regime in Iran?
Uh the entire world knows who's behind this.
They've been helping Al Qaeda attacking troops in Iraq.
They're not far from getting nuclear weapons.
Well, I think this is the the greatest question of our time.
Uh, it is not only of monumental importance to Israel, because Iran, while denying that the Holocaust took place, is openly declaring its intent its intention to make another Holocaust with the six million Jews of Israel that they intend to eliminate.
Uh, Iran also intends to become uh a nuclear power, uh, an empire with long-range missiles that now reach every capital in Europe and within a decade would reach the eastern seaboard.
Uh and they have uh a crazy uh particular Shiite uh of a grand apocalypse that is supposed to occur right right about now, in which millions will die on all sides on both sides, and this brand of Shiism will uh will rule the world.
Now you may ask, how is it possible religious wars died in the seventeenth century?
Not for them.
Uh not for them, not for the likes of El Taida who smashed into buildings in New York, uh, and not for Iran that is building uh an atomic arsenal for that effect.
But what they've really done here is fired the first death salv.
And the question of our response, by our response I mean not only Israel's response to Hezbollah, but uh the international response to Iran and its way station Syria.
Uh I think that's a crucial question that you're raising.
Now, President Bush has said, and he said something very important just recently, a month ago.
He said that he would not let Iran acquire nuclear weapons.
That is very important.
Are we plans to do it, what means he plans to use, uh, of course he leaves with himself.
But there's no question right now that there ought to be a division of labor.
The US and the responsible members of the international community, if you can find some, they should press Iran and Syria to cease and desist of support and arming of Hezbollah.
And Israel should be left to do the job that it must do, that is to disarm Kizbalah and destroy its missile arsenal.
Is anybody is to be done.
Well, is anybody stopping you from doing that?
Anybody putting the brakes on you?
I don't think so.
Not yet, I have to say.
I don't think that, you know, we've had a list.
All wars have limited time.
You know, it's not an unlimited amount of time anyway, and I said that from day one.
And the time that you have available, you should use with the power that you have available.
The more power you use, the less time you need.
So obviously we don't have unlimited time, and therefore we should use more power, a lot more power to crush this bubble.
That's what's required.
And I think if Israel shows this resolve, if the Israeli government shows this resolve, then America, first of all America, would respect it.
At the end of the day, so would they are.
Let me try this quite a little.
A little bit of a lengthy question, and I know the phone connection here's not the best, but I want to ask you this because it's it's a it's a topic that's really roiling much of the American population.
And that is that the war has two aspects the PR spin war and the reality.
And the and the media, uh, Mr. Prime Minister, uh suggests that Israel is losing the PR Media War and has got to change its tactics so that it can win the PR Media War.
I don't think that Israel can ever win a media war, and I don't think George Bush can ever win a media war because the world's media is not interested in the facts of reality in this current conflict.
Uh you c you can point out the reality of uh the Hezbollah Hezbollah people using civilian human shields all day long.
It still will be ignored.
Um do you think you can lose the real conflict uh with uh with Hezbollah if you also lose the spin war, or do you not care about that?
Just focus on the reality of actually winning the war as that used to be defined.
First of all, win the war.
Win the war on the Quran and win it quickly and decisively.
That would be uh always my first preference.
But secondly, you're quite right that in the and from the twentieth century on we've learned that to cement uh a military victory, you must have a political victory.
You'll have a political victory, you must uh win the battle of for public opinion.
To win the battle for public opinion, you must convince that public that your cause is just and because of your enemy is unjust.
There's never been a more just war than this one, that's obvious.
We were fired upon from Lebanon and from Gaza when we left and vacated every square inch uh in a totally unprovoked manner.
Our soldiers were hidnapped and murdered, our our cities were rocket upon.
Uh so this is a just war.
Now, can uh Americans understand that?
I happen to think that Americans understand that very well and overwhelmingly so.
I don't believe that is the case in Europe.
In Western Europe at least, perhaps in eastern Europe, where they understand power a little better.
But Western Europe shows signs of abilitation, signs of not understanding where their interests are and where morality is.
Uh they view everything in a post colonial prism as though we are colonialists.
We who are living in our land, right who are gripping on to our land for three thousand years, we're supposed to be the colonials.
But nevertheless, I sense a crack in Europe too.
It is not that they support Israel.
It is that they don't support the Islam.
And they don't support the Islamists because they are being plagued by the same plagues.
So for them, it's a fox on both your house.
But what America knows, Europe doesn't know.
It's our house.
It's the same out.
Israel, America, the free uh societies of Europe, we're the same house.
And the likes of Iran and Kizbala and Al Qaeda, they want to destroy our house.
Israel, to be sure, would be their number one target, but we're only their first target, and they say so.
They want eventually to get you, and they have no problem and no inhibition.
Firing upon civilians, hiding among civilians.
These are, by the way, two war crimes according to the Geneva Convention.
Not only can you not deliberately fire on civilians, you cannot deliberately hide among civilians.
You have here this criminal organization supported by criminal regime with a clinical criminal goal of destroying Israel but ultimately destroying the West.
Let's not be fooled.
Let's gear ourselves and fight this battle and let's win it.
Well, we admire every effort you're making.
We really do.
It's tough to wage war on an enemy that considers the death of its own children a victory.
Uh just one more question because I know your time is limited and you have to go, but I'm trying to figure out how you have a ceasefire, how we can have a ceasefire with terrorists who are backed by Iran, which have as their goal the destruction of Israel.
Has anybody, any country, anybody from the United Nations or anybody else explained to you in Israel how this this ceasefire, a sustainable, meaningful ceasefire with a bunch of terrorists, would actually work.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think a ceasefire by itself will work.
I think it will work the other way.
Uh I think running away from terror or not finishing terror uh gets terror to come back and bite you, bite you even uh with greater bites.
Uh I think that the important thing is what what are the conditions that lead to a ceasefire.
And it seems to me that the most important thing is uh to dismantle his bala's fighting ability and destroy that missile arsenal.
That's when you should have a ceasefire.
They can't fire anymore.
Okay, so what you're describing here is a ceasefire that results from your victory.
Yes.
Exactly.
Makes perfect sense to everybody.
Well, look, I'm glad you made time for us today, Mr. Prime Minister.
I know it's hectic uh for you right now.
We appreciate the time very much and the best to you.
Always good to talk to you, Russ.
All right, former support.
You bet.
That's former Prime Minister uh of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu, and a quick time out.
Your phone calls coming up next.
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We are back, El Rushbo, having more fun than a human being, should be allowed to have thanks again to former Israeli Prime Minister uh Benjamin BB, Netanyahu.
Uh met him uh in Israel the first time I went there, the only time, nineteen ninety-three.
Uh subsequently, when he was the Prime Minister of uh Israel, he visited New York once, and I was on vacation and I the call came in that uh he would like to meet with me staying at the Essex House, I think, on Central Park South, and I said, Well, I mean, I'll come off vacation for this.
So I went in there and we smoked cigars for an hour.
In the uh they'd closed off the one of the dining rooms or one of the ballrooms, and that's where he was uh receiving very speech.
Met Abe Rosenthal.
Abe Rosenthal was in the uh the line waiting to uh he was very nice too.
This after he had left the uh the New York Times.
I don't even think he was writing for the Daily News then.
But uh anyway, the he's uh he's he's a walking education, uh, Mr. Netanyahu is, and if he ever leads the country again, it won't be a bad thing.
Jim in South Bend, Indiana, you're next.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you, Rush.
Megan Notre Dame Irish dittoes to you and to uh your listening audience, an intelligent listening audience.
That's exactly right.
And uh like to say hi to my son who's an intern out on Wall Street this summer and he's also following the Rush Limbaugh school of uh school and he'll be out there making money for the country.
Terrific.
As well as for himself.
That's important too.
Yes, sir.
Uh Rush, to the point, uh, when I was at the Air Force Academy, I wrote a paper, and the paper says basically what you've been saying, and that is a war is nation versus nation.
And McNamara's war Vietnam was the first war ever fought that I could find where we did not go against the nation.
We went against the military.
And as a result, we never seem to break the will of the people who are supporting or coalescing the military, such as Hezbollah in in Lebanon or to Saddam Hussein.
And and I just wish people would understand for over three thousand years it has always been nation versus nation.
And civilian casualties, destruction of inter infrastructure, this is why you don't want to go to war.
And this is why you should not want to go to war against the United States, because we should go in and instead of risking lives, American servicemen on the ground, we should be, as as B said, we should be going in and power shortens the duration of war.
I hope Israel does this and I hope the world understands that war is nation against nation.
It's not a Well I you know I don't know that I don't that see that I keep asking myself that Jim the I I've had more military people I can think of.
The first person that told me this a good friend of mine uh now deceased, a Vietnam veteran, uh general just all round racantur, uh B.T. Collins in Sacramento.
He says, look it and he was in fact he did this in a letter to the editor to the Sacramento Bee.
There was something going on it must have been contra something that's what I think was contra Cold War related and uh bunch of the writers in letters to the editors were typical bloggers today on the left.
Oh we can't and he got frustrated and he wrote this big long letter to the editor that said look you people the purpose of armies is to kill people and break things.
That's it.
And we're not using armies for that purpose now.
We use armies to deliver food we use armies they they still engaged in warfare tactics and our soldiers are best trained in the world and and uh and carrying out their orders.
When it comes to civilians when it comes to nation versus nation that's you're right that's that's what I think there's less of a commitment and willingness to do that.
We can target an enemy an a military or an enemy uh military institution or an enemy air force or what have you but uh that's that's not the traditional ways that wars have been won.
You can debilitate the enemy in that regard.
You also make a good point about uh we never won the hearts and minds of the North Vietnamese people um I don't know that we can win the minds and hearts of a Lebanese people or any other group in the midst of a war right now but if they were made to pay the consequences for supporting the people they're supporting it might have some effect.
Now I know that's a hard thing to say folks but we're talking about war here.
We're not we're not talking about Romperom or the Oprah show uh we're not talking about political correctness in this country.
War is still war.
Finally you made a good point about BB.
When you know my my first question to him uh had to do with is this a new Israel?
Are we seeing an Israel that's not willing to go all out as it had in the past?
When I first asked him that question, he was reluctant to go there because they are unified in this country, in Israel, in this battle.
Over 90% of the Israeli population supports the government and what they're doing.
And he doesn't want to make any public criticisms and all that.
But later in the interview, as you remind me, he did point out that power shortens the duration.
and and so the the uh uh I think he fully well understands uh and and well I don't want to put words in his mouth or emotions in his heart but I I think he understands uh the question when I ask it to him is this is is if this is a uh a different Israel.
Now there's a there's a interesting story that I just got from uh WW dot IsraeliNN I guess that's the Israeli Newsnetwork.com I'm not sure.
But the headline here is incredible to me.
Morale remains high as Hezbollah begins to crumble.
Uh uh and this is this is uh interesting.
Morale of the Israeli uh defense forces, morale of the Israeli people.
Nowhere else am I seeing that uh Hezbollah's crumbling.
This Israeli news source, and by the way, I wonder I'm gonna link to this.
If you read this account of what's going on, it's unlike anything else you're seeing or reading anywhere.
It's just fact, A, B, C and D, up and down the line.
All right, we are back having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have Rush Limbaugh with half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
I was here I was asking earlier today.
I wonder what Dominique de Villapan thinks of all this.
I haven't heard him say anything.
And Snerdly said, Oh, yeah, he's he said something.
Oh, I just found out what it is.
Puke city.
French leaders praised uh Iran and disparaged Israel on Monday in two separate news conferences held in Beirut and in the Paris area.
Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin told reporters at the news conference in France that Israel's willingness to suspend its air strikes on Hezbollah terror targets was only a first step, still not enough.
DeVilipan maintained that the cessation of the aerial attacks is insufficient in light of the situation in Lebanon.
At the news conference held in Beirut, French foreign minister Philippe Duste Blaze, and I don't know how you pronounce French names like this, so I'll just Americanize it.
Philippe Duste Blaze praised Iran as a stabilizing force in the Middle East.
He said this.
He said this in Beirut.
The French foreign minister Philippe Dusteblaze told reporters that Iran is an outstanding country with great people and an honorable civilization.
It has a crucial role in the region.
Well, Iran is the primary patron of the Hezbollah's.
It's a terror organization.
Fired close to eighteen hundred Katusha missiles at northern Israeli communities in the past twenty days, killing nineteen civilians and injury injuring hundreds.
Hundreds more.
So the French are back as we know and love them.
Uh here is Jose and Grand Rapids.
Jose, welcome.
Thank you, Rush.
Uh much has been said about the so-called green light that Bush is giving to Israel, but I think that green light is not just coming from the U.S. I think that the uh the the Arab League and some of the uh governments in uh the Middle East have finally uh come to the realization in some of the corridors of power, except in Iran, of course, that uh they have come to uh see that uh Islamic fundamentalism has become a major threat for the region than the U.S. Bush boogeyman.
And the Palestinian cause, it's obvious for everybody after the election of Hamas that it has transmuted from a so-called local patriotic cause with socialism as its program to become officially part of the international Islamic fundamentalist jihad.
And its goal is a Sharia law and theocracy throughout the whole Middle East, all the way to Spain.
And so uh the the obvious failure of the Palestinians in electing Hamas has been paraded before the whole world.
They do not want peace with Israel.
Uh uh the the cause uh of Palestine has become the the excuse for the failure of the Palestinians at governing.
In one in, you know, it there's a theory out there, Jose, uh that didn't the new Israeli or the Palestinian Prime Minister Abbas, Mahmoud Abbas, wasn't he ready to put to a vote to his people whether or not they just wanted to shut it down and peacefully coexist with Israel and let it be done.
And that's really when the Hezbollah's got in gear.
That's when the Iranians and everybody ordered the Hezbow to get in gear.
They couldn't have that.
That's the last thing in the world they want.
That is that that's exactly right.
Israel is by is becoming now the real battlefront for the war against fundamentalist Islam.
Uh Baghdad and Iraq has become secondary.
That's why Al Qaeda wants to jump in on the show.
But you know that there's a major shift in the Middle East as a result of 911 first and second of the war in Iraq.
I think 91 even shook some people in the Middle East.
I and uh whether genuinely or not, I think even Arafat, what people have to realize that Arafat comes is a product of the Cold War more than a a post-9-11.
And so uh the the battle within the Palestinians came after 911 when they started dancing in the streets, and Hamas and Hezbollah became more powerful as they saw that that Arafad, the PLO and all that were were old timers that were not gonna bring what they really wanted.
And so they really do not care about a two-state solution.
Uh this is a a a fundamentalist religious zealot movement that is fired up to the hilt, and it's not going to be stopped in any other fashion.
Uh the people in the Middle East, the powers that be are afraid of it, just as everybody else.
On the one hand, the US is not going to abandon Israel no matter what, and eventually Europe is going to have to uh choose between a a a uh uh uh uh the disappearance of Israel or the uh establishment of a caliphate all the way south of Europe.
And I think when that time comes, uh and the time is here, uh the battle for Israel is become the the battle uh uh the most important battle in the war uh I'm gonna tell you is you are you are you are very, very right about that.
By the way, uh ladies and gentlemen, this is Jose from Grand Rapids, Michigan.
He is not a s well, Jose, are are you are you a scholar?
Uh yes, I I I I consider myself such.
I I I'm an independent writer.
I ran out or was ran out of the academia uh for obvious reasons.
Uh, but uh that's what I yes, I do.
Well, I was run out of academia too.
It was called speech class and ballroom dance taught by a drill sergeant, former drill sergeant in a wax.
You were thrown out, I'm sure, for different reasons.
But anyway, I just wanted to point out this this is uh this is this is no guest expert, this is just a caller and listener to the Rush Limbaugh program with one of the most knowledgeable audiences firmly established now, second most knowledgeable audience in the well, it's the most knowledgeable broadcast audience in the world in the country.
The most knowledgeable broadcast radio and TV audience, this program, the Pew Center, and their uh exhaustive research is documented that today, and Jose here is a glittering example of that.
Shining, shining example of that.
One thing you said, Jose, the two things I want to comment on.
First, it goes underreported how nervous the Arab League really is about this and how nervous they are about the Iran Syria axis.
Uh the the drive-by media in this country late last week tried to say more and more Arab sympathy with uh Hezbollah and uh Syria over this.
Uh that story New York Times purported to report that, but it didn't say it.
All they could do was get comment from the quote unquote Arab street.
Uh and you might say, what kind of power does the Arab Street have?
They don't run their governments.
Second thing that you said was at the end of your um your comments uh when you said that the battle for Israel has become the battle, the most important battle in the war on terror.
Now I know that there are a lot of Americans who don't want to hear that.
For a host of reasons.
I know that there are a lot of Americans who think that if we didn't support Israel, if Israel were not an ally, if we didn't give them military and foreign aid, if uh if we weren't so publicly supportive of them, government to government, that we wouldn't have any trouble with Islamic terrorists and so forth, that the vast majority of uh the enemies we have in the Arab world today are due strictly to our association with Israel.
If you are one American who thinks that, uh I know it's tempting, it's very seductive to believe it, but it isn't true.
We are just as much an enemy as any other Western culture and western society is, because whether you were Jew or Christian or what have you, if you if you don't fit the model that the Islamo fascists have created, uh you are considered an infidel, and they are they say that they're working on instructions from their religion to wipe out everybody who's not a proper Muslim.
Uh And they hide behind a religion, so it's very difficult to criticize them without getting the uh uh dander up of people who want to talk about separation of church and state or the First Amendment or what have you, or bigotry or anything of this sort.
Well, I'm I am here to tell you, in my humble opinion, the uh and Benjamin Netanyahu, who said the same thing as you just did, Jose.
Uh Israel has become the battle for Israel has become the battle, a most important battle in the war on terror, and the reason it's it's becoming more and more obvious.
Uh Israel's done everything it's been asked to do.
Land for peace, give up the settlements.
Uh stop this, stop that.
It doesn't stop.
The people that make these deals break these deals, because it's never been about that.
It's always been about the destruction of Israel.
Uh and this is now undeniable to people.
The only people that don't want to admit it are people who can't afford to admit it because it would totally render them ineffective as as being wrong constantly on big issues.
They're not going to admit that.
And and uh Netanyahu said, we're the first target, but we're just that.
We're the first target.
Uh you are next.
And he's he's exactly right.
And that's, folks, that's why, you know, you wonder, Russia, have you spent so many hours on this since this all started?
It's like I said to you at the top of the program, when when I was told after 9-11 that we were declaring war on terror, I believed it.
And I thought good.
It's it's necessary.
This has been going on for way too long, way too many decades, with no response at all, other than piddly little court cases.
But that's not the way this is going to be won, ultimately.
Can't fight it as a criminal case.
Uh it is what it is, and it isn't that.
And uh so when there are people who are willing to sabotage our victory in this war against this enemy, for their own personal aggrandizement, elevation to power, or their animist or George W. Bush, then it's it's uh it's frustrating, it's maddening, and it causes palpable anger in me, not just frustration, palpable anger.
But it's gonna have to be dealt with at some point, and what's happening here in Israel is such Israel cannot lose this.
Hezbollah must lose this.
Decisively, there can be no question.
It has to be such a clear defeat that no amount of PR or spin will change that reality.
They can put all the pictures up, they can parade all their dead babies all they want, like they've been doing.
Babies they killed, babies they saw to it that were placed in the line of fire.
They can do that all day long, but at the end of the day, the reality will be they have been defeated.
That's the message that uh that needs to be sent.
Thanks, Jose, for the phone call, a brief time out, and he will uh return in earnest.
Well, I'd say what has to be some of the absolute best timing.
In the history of politics, key Democrat leaders in the House and Senate have united to call on President Bush to begin pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq by the end of the year, uh citing an overtax military, billions of dollars spent, and ongoing sectarian violence.
Uh in a letter to Bush released on Monday, the Democrats back to plan for the phased redeployment of troops.
It's a usual suspects.
Uh see, Harry Reed, uh Nancy Pelosi.
Uh well, I don't maybe it's just those two, but the headline says key Democrat leaders in the House and so it's probably just two people.
Probably just two people.
The whole thing here has been portrayed as some big bunch of Democrats.
Anyway, great timing, guys.
You have really stepped in it now.
Both feet are in the quicksand.
From the Jerusalem Post, the Israeli defense forces assessed on Monday that the Hezbox rocket launching Capability significantly compromised by the fighting that took place in the uh past three weeks.
It was estimated that while the organization still has hundreds of rockets, only a number of launchers remain with launching capability.
The IDF asserted it had killed some 200 Hezbollah.
Uh most of the names are not released.
One of the more prominent targets hit was Jihad Atiya, said to be responsible for the killing and kidnapping of IDF soldiers, Benny Evraham, Adi Avitan, and Omar Sweet in 2000.
Meanwhile, it was released for publication that an IAF UAV bombed Israeli Air Force bomb bombed a truck the previous night that had traveled from Syria into Lebanon on the border between the two countries.
It was unclear what the truck was carrying, but I'll guarantee you it probably was not a Mr. Softy truck.
All right, now, folks.
Matt Drudge has just posted on his website with a siren.
The most incredible story, and it's by John Solomon of the Associated Press.
Now, probably going to damage his career, but I've mentioned Solomon on previous occasions that Solomon seems to be a fair guy.
Solomon's stuff for AP appears to be really balanced.
The prisoners held at Club Git Mode during the war on terror have attacked their military guards hundreds of times, turning broken toilet parts, utensils, radios, and even a bloody lizard tail into makeshift weapons, Pentagon reports say.
Incident reports reviewed by the AP indicate that military police guards are routinely headbutted, spat upon, and doused by cocktails of feces, urine, vomit, and sperm collected in meal cups by the prisoners.
This exciting Udawn.
This is sick stuff.
They've been repeatedly grabbed, punched, or assaulted by prisoners who reached through the small beanholes used to deliver uh deliver food and blankets through cell doors, the reports say.
Serious assaults requiring medical attention, however, are rare.
The detainee uh reached under the face mask of an IRF initial reaction force team member's helmet, scratched his face, attempting to gouge his eyes, states a May 27, 2005 report on an effort to remove a recalcitrant prisoner from his cell.
I can't wait until Dick Durbin reads this.
I can't wait.
Well, just we'll never know what he really thinks about it.
It's going to be tough for him to, you know, he's gonna he'll you'll have to focus on the Pentagon setting AP up, lying to AP and so forth.
But this is clearly just the exact opposite of what we have been treated to in the drive-by media ever since Abu Ghrab and Club Gitmo became stories.
And that is that these are just innocent little people, and they've been dragged away in their home countries and they're being mistreated and they're being tortured and so forth in Club Get Mo and at Abu Grab and it is horrible.
And now we find out, and this is a long story.
When I printed it out, it's um just a little over three pages.
Well, I know that I know they're being confined, and I know they're desperate, but they are not the harmless lovable little fuzzballs, like I am, that they have been portrayed to be.
These people are human debris.
And given the chance they would kill these guards with whatever weapons that they could manufacture, makeshift or otherwise.
Quickly, I want to go to Phil in Ontario, California.
Got one minute, Phil.
Can you do it?
Yes, uh, Rash Megadiddos from Ontario.
Thank you.
I couldn't help thinking when you and uh Mr. Netanyahu was speaking about how you uh win the hearts and minds of these people, and it remind me of Charlie Colson who used to work with Nixon.
He summed it up, and uh, you may have to censor this, but he's I'll give the exact quote.
He says, When you get them by the balls, their heart and mind soon follow.
So it goes back to what you said.
It's a no-negotiated settlement, you either win or you lose.
That's with a street fighter in a war.
Yeah.
And it's it's just anyway.
Thanks again for your good work.
Yeah, appreciate that, uh, Phil.
Thanks for having Brevity is the uh is the is the soul of wit.
That is a tactic that has been proven to work in marriage as well.
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How can you win people's minds and hearts, though, if they don't have any to begin with?
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