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	Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24 7 Podcast.
	Thank you, Johnny Donovan, and it's a pleasure and a privilege to be with you once again in Forrush.
	The Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, where there is never a final exam, but we are tested every day.
	I am fellow student Paul W. Smith and uh elevated for the day at least to teaching assistant, but I'm really just one of the students just like you.
	Nice to be with you.
	We've got a great show with a great lineup.
	Bo Snerdly has done a magnificent job once again.
	Uh he is filling in for HR, Kit Carson, the executive producer, Bo is uh handling the duties.
	Mike Mamon, our engineer uh out of New York, Mike Abbott's here in the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building in Detroit, and there's lots going on.
	Uh i if you can hear me now.
	Can you hear me now?
	Okay, if you can hear me now, that means apparently the asteroid two thousand four XP fourteen missed us.
	There was a rather large asteroid that was coming our way today.
	It's an Apollo class of asteroids, which are those that cross orbits with Earth.
	And uh there was some concern because it was going to be uh just two hundred sixty-eight thousand six hundred twenty-four miles away, just slightly further away than the average distance of the moon from Earth, and there was concern, but it apparently, if you can hear me, has passed by and everything's a okay.
	No word on how this may affect global warning.
	Warming, uh, however.
	No word on that.
	Uh fireworks, people are fooling around with him, have been for days now.
	Please be careful.
	Some are illegal, obviously, some people still do it, but you might want to go to fireworks safety dot com for a last minute uh information.
	Do that.
	Yes, uh that's that is right.
	Mamon is going through the instructions you'll find at uh WWW.fireworkssafety.com.
	It says do not hold in hand.
	Light and run.
	But uh on a serious note, please be careful.
	Because you know, the next day or two or three, our news departments at this, your favorite radio station are gonna have to report on people who have lost fingers or eyes, or worse, every year.
	And speaking on behalf of our news department here at your favorite radio station, we don't want to do that anymore.
	So please be careful with those uh fireworks.
	Uh, NASA, oh man, they're they're foaming at the mouth regarding the latest trouble holding back their blast off.
	No fireworks there.
	They're gonna have a press conference here uh shortly.
	It's not the weather this time, a shallow crack in the foam on the space shuttle's fuel tank could scuttle the shuttle.
	At least uh the launch they were hoping to have as a real blast off for the Fourth of July.
	We'll see.
	This is an unbelievable story.
	I mean, listen uh if I didn't read it in the uh in the uh Well, wait a minute, I read it in the New York Times.
	What does that mean then?
	So Well, if I didn't read it in the paper, I wouldn't have believed it.
	But listen to this.
	Reverend Jesse J you try to figure this one out.
	Reverend Jesse Jackson has been named the co-national manager of the Jockeys Guild.
	Now this is a paid position along with another guy, uh Dwight Manley, who was uh former sports agent who represented Dennis Rodman, a paid position to represent over eleven hundred members in the jockey union.
	The jockey guild.
	Even some of the jockeys.
	Could I have that uh could I have that trumpet here, uh Mamon?
	This is perfect here for the uh the uh jockey story.
	Do you have that uh Yeah, well, uh some of the jockeys are saying they have no idea why Reverend Jesse Jackson was hired.
	How does he fit in the picture?
	What does he know about racing and the issues?
	One guy's quote is this is a horrible idea.
	Neither person, Dwight Manley nor Jesse Jackson, is a person who is experienced in racing or knows jockeys.
	So I that is just uh one of the oddest out of many.
	Historically odd stories regarding the Reverend Jesse Jackson.
	A big story out there, too, about how we should tell kids or if we should tell kids that they're fat.
	Or how we should say it, I guess how blunt parents and doctors should be in telling their children and their teens they're fat.
	Medical professionals are actually debating whether it's time to replace the fuzzy language favored by the federal government with the painful truth, telling kids they were obese or overweight may be painful to hear, but it addresses a serious problem.
	Some say the term obese sounds mean.
	The diplomatic approach used by many doctors avoids the word obese altogether because of the stigma.
	And they say things like uh they're at risk of overweight.
	Well, they are overweight.
	And in fact, uh my friend uh uh Oakland County in Oakland County, Michigan executive uh El Brooks Patterson uh discovered this, and which is why he started a steps program, a healthy steps program, uh that because of this obesity, because of this problem, this very real problem with our kids and the problems that are associated with obesity that starts out when they're young, like later in life, diabetes and stroke.
	We've got a whole generation of children.
	This generation of children we're raising today will be the first generation in history not to have a longer life span than their parents.
	We better get to the point.
	No matter what we call it, at risk of overweight or obese or fat, it's a problem that has to be dealt with and it has to be dealt with right away.
	Well, uh a couple of other things in the news and things that are going on.
	Uh, President Jimmy Carter is uh is uh in the news and we'll get to that in a bit.
	Uh first I want you to hear uh from a morning update with the Rush Limbo, just a part of a morning update addressing uh the issue we're about to face with Lieutenant Governor Mike Steele.
	Listen to Rush on one of his morning updates here we've got to be.
	Maryland Democrats face the qua easy problem, qua easy in fume.
	A young street thug turned his life around, went into politics, led the congressional black caucus, left Congress to run the NAA L C P. Now he's running for Senate.
	Despite his party loyalty and high profile, party big wigs have endorsed Ben Cardin, who entered the race late.
	Cardin is white.
	Infume is getting the same treatment that Carl McCall got running for governor in New York, and Maynard Jackson got when he ran for chairman of the Democratic Party.
	No support and disrespect.
	You might remember in Maryland, the Republican candidate is Michael Steele.
	Chuck Schumer's group illegally dug up his credit records.
	Mike Steele, like Infume, black.
	There's only one solution for blacks and second string liberals wishing to advance in the Democratic Party, and that's learn Spanish El Quico, my amigos.
	The Maryland Senate race among the most watched Senate races in 06, and uh the Republican running Lieutenant Governor Mike Steele is on the other end of our line.
	And boy, you get yourself in the middle of something there, Lieutenant Governor.
	You know, when you're at uh six four African American Roman Catholic Republican, you know, it's nothing like a bullseye, right?
	Yeah, uh add to that conservative, you know, you're in you're in big trouble here.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Well, you know, leave it to Rush to put a fine point on it.
	And you know, the reality of it is that this is this is a change election for Marylanders.
	Uh for the first time, they're gonna have uh not just a competitive race for the United States Senate, but a race in which you'll have uh a candidate uh, namely me, talking about empowerment, opportunity, ownership, and something I like to call legacy wealth.
	And it's all wrapped up um in a way that uh people understand it, they digest it, and they want to be a part of it, and that's what's scaring them.
	That this is a a new style of of political activism, actually inviting people to be a part of the process and to engage in the debate.
	Uh and my opponents, as you've noted, want to steal my credit report.
	They want to remind people that, you know, the President of the United States uh supports me and and somehow that's a bad thing.
	I'm sure Quaizi and Fume would love to have Howard Dean come in and do a fundraiser for him.
	Um but the reality of it is that's not part of the Democrat agenda.
	It is to take candidates uh that appear to be uh of African American hue and um sort of set them on the shelf one way or the other.
	And uh I told Que up front, I said, I don't know what you've done to engender such uh such a tension uh from your own party.
	You would think you would think that they would treat you a little bit better, brother, but they're not, you know.
	It's amazing here he was uh the congressional back caucus, the head of the NAACP and all of these things, and they aren't treating him very well, are they?
	No, they're not.
	Uh in fact, they they've dried up his money.
	They have uh mitigated his uh uh his exposure to uh the electorate.
	They have done everything they can to really uh let people know that, well, we really want Ben Cardin.
	And the reality of it is let the people decide who they want.
	And you know, the chance to have two African Americans, one Democrat, one Republican vie for the United States Senate seat in Maryland, is a huge, huge national opportunity.
	But uh Stenny Hoyer, uh, who once referred to me as a token, by the way, um, you know, feels that he knows best uh what's in in the best interest of people uh in our state.
	So uh your television ad, which I went online to see when uh I was told you were gonna come on the program, uh is very good.
	There you are on the front porch, very relaxed, picking up the newspaper saying if you think Washington works just fine as it is, I'm not your candidate, but if you're ready to make a change, then I'm your man.
	That's it.
	Uh but th you are getting hit from all sides.
	You mentioned about stealing your credit information.
	Chuck Schumer uh apparently did that.
	Can you tell us the story there?
	And has he ever apologized or said that he shouldn't have done it?
	Well, this is the interesting thing about it.
	They have done everything that they can to ignore the fact that uh one of two of their uh employees, the director and the deputy director um of uh one of their programs, uh went online, entered my social security number, which they received, which they got from court documents uh here in Maryland, um uh procured a copy of my credit report as me.
	Uh so they used my my identity falsely.
	They used my uh social security number illegally and they obtained illegally my credit report.
	For what purpose?
	Um I uh Lord only knows.
	But the reality of it is they got caught.
	Uh the young woman who took the fall for her boss uh is now uh had pled guilty to federal charges of uh stealing my credit report is now doing community service uh for the next uh eighteen months or so.
	Uh and Chuck Schumer has yet to even acknowledge this has ever happened.
	He's yet to send my wife uh flowers, let alone a note apologizing because she's part of uh my credit report as well.
	I mean, we have joint accounts.
	Um so if you don't want to apologize to me, at least apologi apologize to the Mrs. who you've inadvertently pulled into this mess.
	But he is he has yet to do so.
	He's yet to formally say anything, and of course, you know, the DNC operatives say, well, we apologize, and I want to know to whom that you know, standing in front of a microphone and saying we apologize is not the same as saying, you know, we've done it and and actually doing it.
	Um but I you know, I I put the word out to Mr. Schumer and others.
	You know, you can either apologize to me now or you can wait till I show up on the Senate floor and do it then.
	But one way or the other you're gonna do it.
	Well, uh Lieutenant Governor Mike Steele, can you hang on just a moment?
	Absolutely.
	Because the other word there is that they're spreading, uh they, the Democrats, because they are frightened of you, is that all of your supporters or or many of your supporters, your biggest supporters, are racist.
	That is uh Lieutenant Governor Mike Steele, the African American conservative Republican running for Senate in Maryland.
	His big supporters are racist.
	We'll talk about that when we return on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
	I'm Paul W. Smith.
	Lieutenant Governor Mike Steele with us, the first African American elected to statewide office in Maryland.
	Republican whose strategy for winning a Senate seat in a state dominated by Democrats has involved the aggressive courtship of black voters.
	He has Jack Kemp as his national campaign chairman, uh, Senator John McCain is supporting him and campaigning for him.
	Maybe you want to speak with him.
	One eight hundred two eight two eight eight two.
	That's one eight hundred two eight two eight eight two.
	You can also go online at Rushlimbaugh.com.
	I'm Paul W. Smith in for Rush.
	And Lieutenant Governor, I mentioned that uh they're saying that your supporters are racist and uh that you've accepted money from people who have harmed African Americans.
	Most notably uh they say Floyd Brown's Citizens United political victory fund, and it was course Floyd Brown who produced the Willie Horton ad, which helped torpedo Michael DeCakis's presidential campaign by drawing attention to the truth to a weekend furlough program that released a black convicted murderer serving a life sentence.
	Yeah, uh you know that i this is a k a race of okay, let's throw as much mud as you can and see what sticks.
	And you know, the the fact that I've outraised uh the Democrat candidates for the United States Senate uh for the last two quarters.
	Uh hope to do it again um when our reports are filed uh for this quarter.
	Uh the fact that I have support from the national leadership of the Republican Party as well as state and local leadership.
	Uh they just they figure why not let's just start picking out every little thing and and throwing it up in the air.
	And it is such an inane argument to make it such a stupid argument to make the fact that someone runs a commercial in a heated political campaign uh to draw parallels and distinctions between one individual and another that hurts or harms African Americans.
	That's the craziest thing in the world.
	You know, I didn't hear people screaming and shouting and jumping up and down when they were doing their commercials that, you know, tried to link the president of the United States to, you know, the death of the African-American who was dragged behind a truck.
	Um uh a few years ago um and that was not you know no one's jumping up and down about who wrote who's writing checks and who's sponsoring Democrat candidates who are part of that effort.
	You know the reality of it is I'm honored to have the support of my national leadership.
	I'm honored to have the support of um uh Republicans from around the country and certainly in the party and um you know I I just I I'm grateful.
	I'm grateful for that.
	And it doesn't necessarily say I agree with everything they say or everything they've done.
	They say that in this race this is a candidate that we support who happens to be African American if these folks are so anti black do you think that they would write a check to me?
	Do you think that they would support the only African American lieutenant governor in the country who happens to be a Republican you know and yet I don't hear on the other side people saying well hmm is Senator Byrd supporting anyone in this upcoming election.
	I'm sure that I'd be curious to see who he's writing checks for from his pack and who he's supporting as a former member of the Ku Klux Klan.
	I don't hear anybody talking about that.
	So the reality of it is they try to they try to have it both ways.
	So they try to make it sound like you're taking money from the Ku Klux Klan and skinheads and others.
	Exactly that's a pretty amazing so crazy and I let's uh take this at it let's take this opportunity Lieutenant Governor Mike Steele to hear from some of the folks from around the country and in your own backyard at one eight hundred two eight two two eight eighty two in your own backyard uh we go whoops we lost uh we're going to Manning in Somerset Massachusetts Hello Manny welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
	Hi Paul doing a great job filling in for Rush already.
	Thanks Manny and I'd like to ask Mr Steele a question.
	Sure Manny Uh Mr Steele glad to have you running for uh for the Senate and uh as I was waiting for the call I was repeating Senator Michael Steele it sounds really great to me.
	And I hope we can get more conservatives like you uh in the Senate.
	I just wanted to ask you uh maybe to give some of the listeners uh maybe your first top one and two or two priorities in the Senate once you're elected.
	Well I think one uh one of the top priorities that I will will focus on uh certainly will be on in the areas of economic empowerment which I think is important across the board.
	We've got a booming economy we've got a lot of strength in our economy which I like to see us continue to to build on uh you know and I and I tie that to a number of issues like immigration and social security and health care as well.
	That economic that economic core of our economy has to be protected in order to grow.
	So the level of spending that we see going on there's got to be some voices standing up and saying enough I'm not voting for spending packages that don't have the requisite dollars in place to cover it.
	I have to live you have to live all of us have to live within our means.
	I can't go write a check and expect the bank to just put the money in the in in the account for me.
	I can't go out there and spend up my credit cards and expect the credit card company to say oh well you don't have to pay us this month.
	The reality of it is I gotta live within my means show so should our government.
	Grace is here on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
	Grace say hi to the Lieutenant Governor Oh Lieutenant Governor Steele I just can't wait to vote for you Oh thank you so much Grace.
	Because uh I might be a woman that's racist too.
	And I'm also uh um over the a I'm a retirement age, but I pi I pick the person and vote for the person.
	And I watched you at the Republican convention.
	I love your ideas.
	You've been to Salisbury.
	I guess you know that Waikamica County is now the murder capital of Maryland.
	Yes, yeah.
	But you're up against the good old boys.
	This is all we are in in Maryland and have been.
	We've been the most corrupt state.
	People don't even realize this.
	Well they don't, and you know what, Grace, uh, you did uh I hate for that to be the thing they remember uh about the area there, but we've got to run.
	I just want to thank you, Lieutenant Governor Mike Steele for the opportunity to hear from a couple of people.
	Well, I really do appreciate it, and if folks want to know a little bit more about what's what we're doing, W.stealForMaryland.com.
	Can't uh beat that.
	Good advertising for you here on the Rush Limbaugh Show on Paul W. Smith.
	As we continue on the Rush Limbaugh Show, I'm Paul W. Smith.
	Nice to be with you on this, the third day of July, getting ready for the big celebration of the fourth.
	We'll talk about that a little later.
	But we're uh moving uh from uh Maryland to uh Georgia now and uh and uh checking in on the story that broke last week where uh the Senate Republicans have uh sharply criticized the New York Times and some other news media outlets for disclosing a secret administration effort to track terrorist financing.
	And uh uh the you you've probably seen the quote by now.
	While quote, a free and objective independent media is necessary to the maintenance of liberty, uh that's from a draft of the resolution that goes on to say the New York Times and other media outlets that solicit the discovery of sensitive information and unilaterally determined to publish such information could be placing lives at risk.
	Today, the New York Times, or rather, no, I guess this was Saturday's Saturday's New York Times, uh, had an op-ed piece signed by both uh Dean Backay, I'm not sure how to pronounce that, editor of the Los Angeles Times and Bill Keller, executive editor of the New York Times, defending their publishing the secrets under the headline when do we publish a secret, and they probably talk about the Pentagon Papers, etc.
	etc.
	Well, people are not happy about this.
	Representative Jack Kingston, member of the House GOP leadership, says that Republicans are mainly concerned about the New York Times because of what uh uh is truly a record of publishing classified information, quote, somebody clearly broke the law in leaking this to the New York Times.
	The New York Times, in my opinion, has simply acted irresponsibly.
	Let's get Representative Jack Kingston uh from Georgia on the line right now.
	Uh representative, uh nice to have you here on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
	I'm Paul W. Smith.
	Paul, it's great to be with you, and greetings from an old Michigan State Spartan.
	I know that's your neck of the woods up there generally.
	Oh, that hurts.
	Being uh uh University of Michigan grad, it hurts just a little.
	You are all over Ann Arbor.
	I had to say that.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, but well, listen, here here's what we're concerned about is that it appears that partisan journalism has blurred the lines of you know what's responsible, what's uh in America's interest, and getting after George Bush.
	And it always seems that the bottom line is any time they can do an I got you or I've embarrassed you or I've underpin you, they're gonna do it.
	The the interesting thing is the New York Times was the very paper that on September 14th, 2001 wrote a an editorial saying that Bush has to get after the finances, that just going after the terrorists itself wasn't enough.
	They had to track the money.
	And so here we got a completely legal, perfect program doing what they were the first ones to say you gotta get out and do, and they decide to tip off the terrorists or that that this is going on.
	And I don't understand, and maybe you can help me because uh uh the dust has settled a little bit.
	But I who are they helping by making this announcement when they claim that it's their job to uh to keep an eye on the government and uh and to uh make sure the government is on the straight and narrow and all of that when uh Hugo Black wrote the government's power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the government.
	What who are they helping here other than the terrorists?
	You know, I think it's just this idea of um it blame America first, and that's what sells newspapers.
	Get out there and show that our country is doing sleazy things or cutting the rules or you know, pulling the rug out from under somebody and doggone it.
	We all know the real problems in the world are because of the United States of America and George Bush is the center of that and so uh we gotta hate ourselves and this is I I I think that's just their way of selling paper, but you know you know in this case you have people's lives truly at risk.
	And Paul, as you you may know I serve on the defense committee.
	We have lots of classified briefing on the tracking of terrorists and what goes in it and you know finding somebody or finding the IED in the road, that's only just a fraction of of the hunt.
	You've got to follow the money and you've got to do that internationally and you've got to do it from the first stage.
	And a lot of times that means going after white collar folks who don't look like terrorists, who don't act like terrorists, who don't hang around with terrorists, but they're they're um fencing money back and forth and they're um shelling corporations or whatever so that they can uh um get the money to the terrorist hands and try to keep the money clean until then but you've got to follow the money and we hear that in the Defense Committee and over and over again by the military community.
	You know and uh by the way uh with us on the line representative Jack Kingston of Georgia we're talking about the the whole New York Times thing although other newspapers like the LA Times and Wall Street Journal and others followed up but the the leak came through apparently to the New York Times.
	And when you say uh representative about the piling on and anything to make uh our president look bad all the time any time uh is uh clearer still with a story out today the Washington Post by former President Jimmy Carter, who couldn't help himself weighing in on this and he points out that the U.S. Freedom of information act turns forty tomorrow, the day we celebrate our independence.
	He goes on to say that this anniversary will not be a day of celebration for the right to information in our country.
	Our government leaders have become increasingly obsessed with secrecy.
	Obstructionist policies and deficient practices have ensured that many important public documents and official actions remain hidden from our view.
	The events in our nation today, war, civil rights violations, spiraling energy costs, huh?
	Campaign finance and lobbyist scandals dictate the growing need and citizens' desire for access to public documents.
	I'm not sure which public they're talking about 'cause the public I know, at least in the heart of these United States, still believes that the President of the United States must, has the right to and in fact should do everything he can to try to keep us safe.
	And these would be the first people to jump on Bush next attack saying that he didn't do enough to prevent it.
	You know, Jimmy Carter is only second to Ramsey Clark, former Attorney General trying to find relevancy and attention.
	And it's sad.
	I mean if we we go back to Coretta Scott King's funeral and report.
	Ramsey Clark in case people have missed this, is the famed attorney for uh not Osama Bin Laden but what's his name?
	Uh well he was on the Saddam Hussein ban why can you is he st isn't he still doing Saddam Hussein or is he now trying to represent Osama bin Laden I I think he was just business cards desperately trying to say please hire me.
	Here's Jimmy Carter at Coretta Scott King's funeral, certainly a national audience for a national icon.
	And he has to allude to wiretapping of Martin Luther King had nothing to do with the current wiretapping program at all, but it was just a very cheap sh partisan shot um at George Bush.
	And and I you know Mr. Carter unfortunately hates being the best ex-president he wants to but no but he blew that.
	He he really did he was at one time I've said it myself but I've rescinded it.
	I I gave him that title a long time ago.
	Many of us did.
	He lost that title.
	He used to be the best former president we ever had.
	And what was that book that said uh the the fifty people who are destroying America um Goldberg's book Yeah Bernie Goldberg's and it just said you know here's an ex-president who all uh routinely he's worse than the Dixie chicks about running his mouth internationally well either has it no i no it hasn't and I'm glad to see it.
	But you know uh we had a letter that um a Lieutenant Tom Cotton who's in Baghdad he's active soldier wrote Mr. Heller Keller at the New York Times and he said you may think you have done a public service, but you have gravely endangered the lives of my soldiers and all other soldiers and innocent Iraqis.
	Next time I hear that familiar explosion, I will wonder whether it could have stopped the bomb that you not had you not instructed terrorists on how to evade financial surveillance.
	And and and then he goes on to say, and by the way, I'm a Harvard lawyer, so um don't think that you know I'm just you know somebody out in the field who doesn't know what he's talking about.
	You have truly broken um classified information and uh um espionage laws and all I mean this is a smart cookie.
	But he's he's really tying it down to what does your article mean to the soldier driving down the road in Baghdad it might mean one more IED.
	And you know that just that just I I get a chill when I think about that, because that's how serious this is this game that these guys are playing with our young men and women at war.
	And it and it just seems like they just don't accept the fact that we're at war.
	Our soldiers are at war, these publishers of newspapers apparently are not you know I I have been to not not just Iraq a couple of times in Afghanistan, but I've been to Walter Reed Hospital and talked to lots of these guys who are nineteen, twenty, twenty one years old and they've lost a leg, they've lost an arm, maybe both arms and legs and I mean just and they look you in the eye and their biggest regret is that they can't go back to the field and be with their fellow soldiers.
	These are guys who just are so humbling to talk to that you realize this is what America's all about.
	These guys tomorrow while we're all eating barbecue and riding our boats and having a big time watching baseball games, they are the ones that are making it possible and they are the ones that are going to be on the front line taking the the IEDs, taking the hits because the New York Times wanted to sell more newspapers.
	They claim to be serving America's public interest.
	I don't know what that means at all and I don't think they can really explain it very clearly.
	I can say that we'd like to have you stick around a little longer if you could US Representative Jack Kingston is with us.
	He's on the line he's served Georgia's first district for the past fourteen years now in his seventh term in the US House of Representatives, member of the House Appropriations Committee, responsible for deciding how the federal budget is spent, Congressman Kingston serves on the defense subcommittee, oversees all military based uh funding uh and just uh has a whole lot going on special interest in America's defense abilities, etc, etc.
	We'll come back.
	We'll continue to talk a little bit about this, also the Supreme Court decision on Gitmo uh and some other issues, but I people are lining up want to talk to you too, so we'll do that if it's okay with you, Congressman.
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	I'm Paul W. Smith.
	New York Times, Los Angeles uh Times they're saying that they uh in their op-ed piece on Saturday, last week our newspapers disclosed a secret Bush administration program to monitor international banking transactions.
	I don't I I don't understand who they're helping with that.
	I and I do certainly understand that they're very possibly placing lives at risk.
	It doesn't make sense to me.
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	I'm Paul W. Smith in for Rush.
	There'll be a Best of Rush tomorrow for the 4th of July celebration.
	Then he's back in the big chair the following day.
	We're uh talking with the Congressman Jack Kingston of Georgia and and enjoying our conversation.
	I hope you will too.
	Let's go right to Bob on his cell phone in Miami, Florida.
	Bob, you're with the Congressman.
	Yes.
	Uh Paul largely unreported in this whole Swift issue uh although I've seen it once or twice is the issue of losing our collaborative countries all over the world who have been part of this SWIFT program.
	Now even if we were to assume and I don't but even if we were to assume that the terrorists already knew about the program, they don't always know which countries are cooperating with us.
	And we are going to lose a lot of countries in this collaborative effort to try to track down and stop the funding of terrorists.
	Congressman Kingston I would uh I would guess you would agree with that.
	Bob I I think you've raised a really good point and one of the one of the assertions that a reporter asked me last week was well did we force those countries to play ball with us.
	And so you know there again the mentality is must be America's fault because obviously they would not be cooperating uh on a war like this because they're pro terrorism and they're pro insurgency or whatever it is.
	Um but I I think you've raised a good point that there are a lot of people who are maybe in the closet but want us to win, and they have to stay in the closet because they're in the Middle East or they have some connections or some sensitivities, but it serves us, particularly in an operation like this, for them to not be known and not to be out front.
	So uh you you raise a great point.
	Appreciate the uh call, uh Bob Bernie is checking in from Northbrook, Illinois.
	It occurs to me, Congressman New York Times is working harder at uh guarding uh their customers' mailing lists, email addresses more so than our national secrets.
	Well, that's good that that's a good thing.
	Because you know, in that article that you've alluded to um by Bill Keller and uh Dean Banquet, our banquet, uh they don't say what their source was or who their source was.
	So if they're so proud of it, and if it's so above the board, why don't they disclose who gave them the information?
	Let's see what Bernie has to say out of Northbrook, Illinois.
	Bernie, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
	Yep.
	Thanks.
	Quick little sidebar first Congressman.
	I was stationed at Walter Reed between nineteen sixty-six and sixty-eight, and I heard the same thing from our Vietnam fellows too.
	They were they wanted to go back.
	They wanted to join their buddies again, even during uh during Vietnam.
	But in any case, I heard the most lucrative statement by this guy Keller on the uh Sunday morning show stating that this is the most secretive White House since the Nixon era.
	And I wanted somebody to ask them, well, this is the first time we've been attacked since 1941 Roosevelt era, number one.
	And number two, how does he know this is the most secretive White House since Nixon?
	It's in fact he knows all the secrets of every administration since Nixon.
	That's a good point.
	That's a real good point.
	Um I was in Congress, I've actually been a member since uh nineteen ninety-three, and what um I can tell you is the pre-911 mentality is what terrorism.
	And you know, the the incidents uh you know USS Coal and Yemen and the the embassy bombings and Nairobi and and Africa and Somalia, those were just um acts of crime that wasn't a big deal, it wasn't connected to anything.
	And then when nine eleven happens, these are the same people who were telling us those were just instant isolated crimes, they turn around and saying, Well, why weren't you looking out for this?
	Where was the intelligence?
	Right.
	Let's go to Jim.
	Uh Jim in Kansas City.
	I uh before we run out of time with the Congressman Jack Kingston.
	Jim?
	Hi hi, Congressman.
	Uh I I have a question uh and I just don't understand.
	Uh if you and I get together and uh plot to commit a murder, and we take a one of us takes a substantial step toward that plot, uh, we are both guilty of the crime of conspiracy uh to commit murder.
	And that in and of itself is a crime.
	Now, if a reporter goes to a leaker and says, I I'll help you disseminate this information.
	Obviously, he's a reporter, that's what he's gonna disseminate it.
	Uh why is that not a crime?
	I I I don't understand why that's not a conspiracy.
	Jim, that's that's a good question.
	When I uh applied for Congress, they told me there were too many lawyers, so I said, Well, I'm not a lawyer.
	I actually, yeah, I I was a businessman, and so that's just a long way of saying I don't know the legal answer to your question.
	I think it's a great question, but I I would it would appear to me that at some point that finding who was the perpetrator of this classified information, who was the leak, you would get some sort of cooperation from the press on it.
	But um I legally somehow they're protected.
	Paul, you may know the answer to that, but um uh I I don't know it offhand.
	I just know that we've got to find the guy on our own.
	Well, I'm not a lawyer either.
	My brother is a lawyer, Mark, but I'm not a lawyer, and uh and I don't have a legal uh uh answer for that at all.
	It sounds like it makes good sense to me, though.
	Uh Congressman, you make good sense, and we really appreciate you coming on board the Rush Limbaugh Show to share some of that with our listeners.
	We're listening we're from uh Rush territory down in South Georgia.
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	Nobody quotes Rush liberally.
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