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May 11, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 11, 2006, Thursday, Hour #2
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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Roger Hedgecock here at 1 800 282 2882.
And obviously the big topic of the day, and we'll get into what's going on in the U.S. Senate in a moment, uh, because there is movement on the immigration bill, some good, some not so good.
We'll talk about uh that in a moment.
But we are having an impact on the Bush administration in Del Rio, Texas this week.
Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff actually announced that they're going to uh stop uh people from crossing the border illegally.
Uh hello.
That's been against the law for a long time.
They're actually going to enforce the law, but only at Del Rio.
That's the good news.
The bad news only at Del Rio, Texas.
Um matters into their own state law hands.
The state of Arizona has passed a law meant to crack down on smugglers.
But uh in Maricopa County, the county attorney there in uh near uh Phoenix, Andrew Thomas, argues the law can also be applied to the smuggled immigrants themselves under a conspiracy theory that the smuggler and the smugglies are uh committing a conspiracy to smuggle into the United States,
and Sheriff Joe Arpayo is enforcing that law in Maricopa County uh Joe Arpayo and uh Rush uh newsletter readers know him from an interview that was conducted by Rush Limbaugh of Joe Orpayo uh some time back when the pink underwear and the tents and all of that was uh big news.
This is even bigger news in my opinion, and Sheriff Joe Arpayo, the America's toughest sheriff, joins us now from Maricopa County.
Hi, Joe.
Hey, how are you doing?
I I I miss Rush, but you're great too.
I appreciate that, Sheriff.
Uh let's uh let's talk about what you're doing out there.
There's a posse it sounds like the old West.
There's a posse.
Yeah, I uh I build up the posse in the last thirteen years at 3,000.
I use the posse to go after deadbeats, hookers, and now I'm going after illegals.
I'm the only law enforcement agency uh uh following through on this new law.
That's another uh subject, but uh I'm going to do what I have to do.
I asked for an opinion from the county attorney, and that was his opinion, and I'm going to enforce that new law.
How's the posse operating?
What do they do?
Well, uh just like every other program, we have them out with the Jeeps, we have uh helicopters, airplanes, uh they pay for everything under the Constitution.
Only the sheriff can swear in the private citizens.
I take full uh advantage of that law, and so I have a volunteer posse.
Okay, and they're out there with the Jeeps and the helicopters.
Are they apprehending illegals?
Well, I uh have deputies out there too.
I have them mainly on support rolls, although under the law I could use them to lock people up, but I uh have deputies uh around to the support uh to make sure they do the right thing.
When did this all start?
Well, I launched a posse last night, but uh eight weeks ago started this uh program under the new law, and uh we were arrested a hundred and forty-seven already, twelve uh twelve smugglers uh along with all the illegals that are conspiring.
So I have them in the county jail.
There's no free ride back to the border by immigration and an air conditioned bus.
I send them directly to jail, and I have the tents, and I I'll make more room if I have to.
I'm not worried about incarcerating these people.
Well, uh more power to you.
Now, what's the reaction to uh this is another one of these Joe Arpio things.
Hey, here's the law, I'm enforcing it, here's what I'm doing.
You're always very honest and upfront about this.
You're a lawman's lawman.
Now, what's the reaction in the press and the public uh in Maricopa County?
I mean, you've been repeatedly re-elected out there, so I know people like you, but are you getting some adverse blowback on this?
No, I am not.
Uh I got uh about four thousand emails from across the nation, all positive, have not received a negative on this issue.
I think I tapped into the silent majority, and maybe people in Washington ought to follow uh what I'm doing out here, although I'm not the national sheriff, and I uh I was head of the federal drug enforcement in Mexico, South America, all Texas, so I think I know a little about Mexico.
On the other hand, I have compassion.
But if they come through this county, violate the law, they're going directly to jail.
It's a felony.
It's not a little old misdemeanor.
We've already had five uh that pled guilty to a felony.
So uh, you know, there's a lot of uh critics out there.
There's gonna be a lot of appeals.
Uh, we're gonna take this off to the Supreme Court, and in the meantime, I'm gonna keep locking them up and throwing them in the uh tents in the jails.
All right.
So in other words, uh, we have uh a situation where in Arizona there are other points of view.
The uh Hispanic groups in Tuesday filed a lawsuit asking federal court to block and declare unconstitutional voter ID requirements imposed under a two thousand four voter approved state law there in Arizona.
So the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, MALDEF, the uh La Raza folks and all the rest of 'em are gonna be active here.
Have they threatened to sue you?
Well, yeah, in court, uh whether they're filing briefs and whatever, uh I get sued when I go to the toilet.
I don't worry to worry about getting sued.
I mean, uh that's not the first time.
It won't be the last when you do the job.
Sometimes a lot of people don't like it and they file lawsuits, more or less to get their picture in the paper with me.
Uh a lot of them are frivolous, but you know, I don't care.
I I'm I'm following the law.
I have a right to do that.
I'm the elected sheriff, and I'm gonna uh force a law, even though I do have compassion for the some of them that come across.
We just arrested uh uh seven illegals with a hundred pounds of methamphetamine last week.
So the le illegals are coming to my county selling heroin to high school kids, and I can go on and on.
So I'm not saying they're all crooks when they come over here, but you know what?
They are crooks because they're violating the federal and the state law, and I am enforcing the state law, and I think people should thank me for helping the federal government try to do something about this problem.
Well, I'm one of those, thanking you.
No question about that.
Joe Arpayo with us, the sheriff of Maricopa County in Arizona.
And uh uh Joe, I I need you to give me a little flesh that out a little bit.
Give me a little more of what you're finding.
You mentioned the methamphetamine.
Uh, what are you finding uh with these people?
Well, we didn't get the methamphetamine uh on this operation.
We got it on uh uh a different investigation uh last week.
But we're we're finding that they're also bringing drugs in, and sometimes they'll purposely bring the drugs in.
They'll call the they want to be arrested by border patrol so they can get a free ride back to Mexico.
And then they come back again.
So that's a little a different twist to this.
I have thirteen murders, never been solved.
They're illegals, they were executed, shot in the head, nobody cares.
I don't see any uproar about thirteen murders because they're they're from Mexico.
They're illegals.
Nobody cares about it.
So we I once again it's all has to do with the uh smuggling activities.
So it's a violent type of crime replacing not replacing the drug trafficking, but I'll tell you one thing, they're making a lot of money off this illegal uh human cargo that they keep bringing into this uh United States.
I'm sure you're familiar with the Del Rio situation.
They're finding the same thing down there.
They're confiscating guns and drugs and tons of cash and everything else from this uh from the smugglers and from uh people they're finding.
Are you getting any of the uh so-called OTMs, that is the other than Mexicans coming across the border?
No, we haven't, and uh that's surprises me in a sense because all you hear they're all coming from the Middle East and all that.
I'd like to see some proof of that.
But it could happen.
But I'm not gonna uh have scare tactics and and use that as a reason, uh the homeland security as a reason.
These guys uh are violating the law uh for coming in here and they should be arrested.
Joe Arpayo, uh Sheriff of Maricopa County, let's take some calls.
Here's Richard in Gainesville, Florida on the Rush Program.
Hi, Richard, you're on with Joe Arpyle.
Yeah, hi.
Uh uh I I really uh uh support what you're doing down there in Arizona.
Uh and I would like to know uh what we and the rest of the country can do to support you, whether it be you know, send money or write our congressman or what.
No, you don't need money.
I my posse is uh free.
Uh you know, I am uh I do get the money uh to run this uh second largest sheriff's office in the United States, but I'll tell you what, and I had four thousand emails already.
Let's put the pressure uh on Washington or anybody else and say maybe you ought to look at the sheriff's uh program and see uh that possibly could be used by other states or even the federal government across our nation.
And I'm not trying I'm not running for president or government uh governor.
I just got re elected a fourth time.
I'm not trying to use this for politics or be some type of martyr and that type of thing.
I'm just saying I I get away with all this with tents and everything else.
It's up to some other people.
If they want to follow it, so be it.
If they don't, that's okay.
I'm going to do my job in this county.
Joe Arpayo with the Sheriff of Maricopa County.
Now, Joe I was going to ask you about the tents and the pink underwear.
You're still doing all that stuff.
And what's been the impact?
Because that's been going on now for some time.
Put the tents up August 393.
They're still there.
I'm building more.
We'll have room for 2800.
Guess it'll be 141 degrees in the summer, but I always throw it out and say our men and women are fighting for our country, so shut your mouth and quit complaining about the heat.
The pink underwear is still there, and uh pink sheets and chain gangs.
I have the only female chain gang in the history of the world.
I have them on the streets cleaning up trash, burying dead bodies and everything else.
How come I'm surviving?
This is eight thirteen years I've been doing that.
Some people don't like it.
That's tough.
And and what do you think the impact's been on the crime rate?
Is this kind of stuff of this get tough attitude had any impact?
Well, I don't know.
Our our drug prevention program's been pretty good.
We put them through drug uh education and only thirteen, fifteen percent come back, uh, whereas usually sixty percent recidivism.
But they still come back.
But you know what?
They want to keep coming back.
Uh our meals are down to fifteen cents, two meals a day.
They can eat the thirty cents a day meals if they want to keep coming back.
So uh, you know, at least we're saving some money, if nothing else.
God bless you, Joe Arpao, Sheriff of Maricopa County, thanks for being on the Rush program and keep up the great work.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I know everybody in this country is sitting there going, How come my sheriff doesn't sound like that?
It's a very good question.
You ought to ask that sheriff at election time.
I'm Roger Hedgecock filling in for Rush Limbaugh, who's on his way down to Dallas for that big performance at uh WBAPAM.
I guess uh they're doing uh a rush to excellence show tonight, and uh Rush fly safely, be safe, and be back tomorrow.
I'm Roger Hedgecock filling in for Russian in the meantime and taking your calls after we take a short break.
We're more in the passing today of Floyd Patterson, uh world heavyweight champion boxer who knocked out uh San Diego's Archie Moore in the fifth round in the nineteen fifty-six fight, died today uh yesterday, apparently in New York, a great fighter from the golden age of boxing.
Uh look, this uh zero tolerance at the border has been implemented by the federal government.
And I say this is you know, great news because I've been um among many, many of you after the uh Bush administration to take national security seriously at the border, to uh take sovereignty the ni uh and the and the impacts of illegal immigration seriously.
And uh at Eagle Pass, uh along the Del Rio sector, the border patrol and Homeland Security have in fact uh done a zero tolerance policy about the uh first six weeks, they got nine hundred and seventeen immigrants prosecuted, ninety days in prison, and they did find, as uh as Arpayo has not yet found, they did find the OTMs, the other than Mexicans, something like forty a day.
Some of them from the seven uh, you know, sisters, the seven uh nations that are terrorist nations on the State Department list, uh the top seven, uh they're down to as low as two a day.
I want to get that to zero a day on the imagine this one sector in one part of the Texas border with Mexico, up to forty a day of people other than Mexican, including Middle Eastern, etc.
And I how long can that go on before you realize that Homeland Security is a joke?
The TSA, the the uh Transportation Security Agency, otherwise known out here as thousands standing around, uh, is not other than propaganda is not homeland security.
Homeland security is stopping people from coming into this country.
You have no business being here.
And to know, and this is the most important part, to know who is coming into the country and who isn't.
And to be able to control the borders.
We cannot defend ourselves in this war if we cannot control the borders.
So what's happening today in the U.S. Senate is hugely important.
Uh on Wednesday of this week, yesterday, Republicans moved to have the Senate spend the next two weeks reconsidering the immigration bill that they couldn't get uh moving because of Mr. Reed's uh opposition uh earlier in the spring.
Um, and there's a lot of opposition from all sides to the idea of, and I don't care How the administration wants to characterize it, when you make people legal who have come in here illegally, it is by Websterian dictionary definition, an amnesty.
Okay, let's just face it, it is an amnesty.
Now, so the question becomes are we first going to get border security, as Joe Arpayo has proven, and even now Chertoff has proven, can be done.
It can be done.
Usually we had to overcome the argument, oh, you'll never stop them.
There's a million coming across.
What do you want to do?
It's impossible.
No, it's not.
We've proven at the San Diego sector long ago with Operation Gatekeeper, what, 10, 12 years ago, that we can reduce the illegal immigration here at the San Diego Tijuana border to next to nothing.
Got three fences, got a lot of border patrol agents, got a lot of helicopters.
It doesn't happen that much.
Now they go to the East, I understand.
But that just means we put the three fences in the border patrol agents and everything along in the East, too.
And here's the key to the whole thing.
And I want to just lay this out because I know there's uh the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board, the Cato Institute, all the rest of these people in a certain part of the conservative right, who are saying, wait a minute, uh, you know, Art Laffer, my good friend, is saying to me, Roger, an open border is uh is good for the economy.
An open border is good for the economy.
It may be.
But it's horrible for public policy.
When I'm sitting here with closed emergency rooms and hospitals, overcrowded schools in which kids can't get an education because of the overwhelming number of people who can't speak English, uh, when I'm sitting here with the social impacts, when I'm sitting here with 40%, forty percent of the population of San Diego's of the California's prison system is illegally in this country from some other country.
Forty percent is high.
Forty percent is too much.
10% is too much.
So what are we actually going to do?
Because all these new laws, if you're not enforcing the laws you have now, why are we debating new laws?
What is, in other words, how can you convince me, as an average citizen, that if you're not enforcing the border law you have now, if you make zero tolerance only applicable, in other words, you enforce the law only at Del Rio in Texas, on about two inches of the border, and the rest of it is completely open, then what am I to think about passing new laws?
You'll just ignore those two.
When are we going in other words, if you just enforce the laws we have now, the issue would go away.
For example, why are people coming?
I keep hearing this from the president, to do um jobs Americans won't do.
Uh apparently to commit crimes Americans won't commit, apparently to uh load up a social service uh benefits that Americans won't take uh advantage of.
Apparently to sell methamphetamine that we just can't simply grow here in the United States.
I don't know, you know, it's a lot of things they do.
So they're coming across for, let's say, legal and illegal opportunity.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, if the employers had a way to check the Social Security number, which they do in a pilot program now, and they were allowed to not hire and not be charged with discrimination if they didn't hire someone who doesn't have a good social security number, we would solve this problem because it wouldn't be any opportunity.
Now I know the employers are screaming at me.
I can hear them screaming at their radio.
Roger, how else am I going to get hardworking people?
Are you kidding me?
These people coming out of high school or dropping out of high school, they don't even know what work is.
You think they're going to get landscapers and and uh and cooks and and and dishwashers in the restaurants and and a thousand other occupations that actually takes hard work out of Americans?
Well, yeah.
In part I do.
I understand you'd like to pay less for harder working people, but the impact on the rest of us is billions and billions of dollars of cost.
So you guys get a hardworking, cheaper uh employee, that's great.
But how about all the taxes you're paying for the kinds of impacts that these folks are having?
So uh employers in the new bill would have to check those social security numbers, they'd have to check the immigration status.
There would be look, if I can walk into a department store and they know uh whether I have enough credit to buy that uh pair of pants in a nanosecond by just sliding my card across a little machine, how is it that you know, and if we can keep track of a cow, a single calf among the millions in the United States that has some kind of disease,
uh and and know exactly when it came in from Canada and all the rest of that on the mad cow disease issue, if we can track all of That you know we can track people who are healed here illegally.
And let me tell you the dirty little secret.
The Bush administration every single year has a number of W-2s that the IRS, when employers submit them and they submit them and the IRS puts them in a separate category called we can't match the name with the number, the social security number.
There are 9.3 million of those in the last fiscal year.
We know exactly where illegals are employed, and we know exactly who's employing them.
And these little propaganda stunts of going after one or the other some German manufacturer press board or whatever it was uh last week uh aren't impressive.
You know exactly where nine point three million people with phony social security numbers are working.
Let's shut them down.
I'm Roger Hedgecock in the Rush Show with your reaction after this.
Roger Hedgecock back on the Rush Limbaugh program, and of course, uh check out Rush Limbaugh.com for all the latest uh today.
And I'll tell you in this immigration debate, the bill is back before the United States Senate, and you know the drill here.
The um there will be an attempt to get the whole debate on what do we do about the twelve million people or whatever the number is, and we don't know apparently the total number of people illegally in this country.
Uh what do we do about them?
And they'll try to get us away from the issue of number one, how did they get jobs here in the first place when that's illegal?
And number two, how'd they get across the border when crossing the border itself is illegal?
And we've shown with Joe R. Pio, the uh sheriff of Maricopa County, we've shown even with the Department of Homeland Security efforts at uh Del Rio in Texas, that the border can be enforced, and of course it must be, and that that should be first before we issue some kind of what do we do about the twelve million here?
Uh first of all, uh those jobs ought to be going to people legally in this country.
How would you feel?
Let me do this l liberal thing.
How would you feel?
If you had jumped through all the hoops, paid all of the fees, hired a lawyer, gone through the many years it apparently takes for someone to legally immigrate to this country only to find that somebody had jumped ahead of the line by crossing the border somewhere and paying a smuggler a couple of grand to show up uh in uh someplace in your hometown and got a job.
How would you feel about the fairness of that?
I'm reaching out now to new audiences here at the Limbaugh Institute.
Here's Bill in Kansas City, Missouri on the Rush program.
Hi, Bill.
Hey, uh Roger Megadiddos to you.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
Uh like everyone else says, uh you're great.
I do miss Rush, but you guys uh listen to you as excellent uh point to just let you know I work for one of the large wireless carriers that serves uh many customers in Maricopa County.
And uh we're a national uh company, but I leave a team that does deployments for 911 uh in uh the network around the country.
And we work with Maricopa for an uh obviously it's a sign of leadership that uh people in your organization reflect the mindset of your leader.
And uh folks uh at the public safety agency that we work with in Maricova County are tough, and they're as tough as he is, uh as as Sheriff Arpayo is to work with.
Tell you what, I wouldn't want to live in his jail uh be in his jails, but I would like to have an emergency.
If I was gonna have an emergency, I want to have it in Maricopa County, because the guy's he's something else.
Amen.
Exactly right.
My drive increase.
And I just wanted to encourage you to put the uh the interview on the website, if you would.
Well, well uh we'll we'll put that uh to uh New York and get them to do it.
I appreciate the call.
Yeah, I I think our our pile ought to be heard by every American.
That kind of talk is just missing, it seems to me.
That that old West kind of uh Gary Cooper sort of talk is missing.
You know, that John Wayne thing.
I mean, that's what we need right now is to say here are the rules, they are going to be enforced.
We aren't gonna be uh Nambi Pamby about it.
We're gonna be very clear.
We do want legal immigration, we don't want illegal immigration, and here's the difference between the two, and here's how we're going to enforce it.
I have yet to hear that, frankly, from the Bush administration.
Here's John and Crofton, uh, Maryland.
Hi, John, welcome to the Rush program.
Yeah, uh I uh was very impressed with uh Joe Arpayo.
I always am.
I didn't realize he's been doing this for thirteen years.
I can't believe the ACLU hasn't put him out of business.
He said he doesn't seem to be afraid of any lawyers.
And the only problem, I mean, he's doing a great job there, But he's just doing it in his county, of course.
And the only problem is that there aren't a hundred other Joe R. piles along the whole border, and then maybe we can uh stem the the tide of this uh illegal immigration.
Uh he mentioned that uh he doesn't find too uh too many uh OTMs, and I think that's uh just a testament to the cleverness of the OTMs that they don't go through his county.
Right?
Probably right.
But he needs he needs help from the federal government on down, and I agree with you.
I don't think George Bush is doing it enough.
I mean, especially uh with this current legislation.
It seems like George Bush wants to give amnesty, and he's soft on immigration, and uh being a lame duck president, I don't understand why he doesn't go whole hard to do the right thing and and maybe build a wall.
Well, we've got a uh we've got to have him do the right thing, and I think short of a wall.
This is uh what I'd like to see.
Uh I'd like to see, for example, instead of these big propaganda uh flashy, showy raids that uh we've seen a couple of in the last couple of weeks.
I'd like to see the kind of uh record of prosecution of employers hiring illegals that we saw under the Clinton administration.
Let me give the devil his due.
In the late nineties, there were three to five hundred per year, depending on the year you look at prosecutions in federal court around the country in the Clinton administration.
Three to five hundred a year.
Now I understand there's uh there's uh uh nine million employers that are uh hiring illegals or something like that.
But three hundred to five hundred is a number that I at least shows some effort.
Do you know what it was last year under the Bush administration?
Two.
Two.
Steve in Long Island, New York on the Rush program.
Go ahead, Steve.
Hey, how are you doing?
Good.
Uh I I really don't think that the Congress understands uh a lot of why people are upset.
And I'll give you an example.
I live on Long Island, right?
I make ninety thousand dollars a year.
I can't afford to buy a home.
Statistics say about seventy percent of the ages eighteen to thirty-four over the next five years are gonna leave.
Illegals are here, they have one has a tax ID number, they can have uh tend to live in a house, they make five hundred a week, that's twenty grand a month against my forty, four hundred dollars a month.
They have social services for free, they run small businesses out of seven elevens that the minute men are gonna be in Southampton this weekend, and uh and part of them they don't want to be uh citizens.
It's not gonna work for them if they become legal.
And they come here to work and they don't reinvest their money back in the economy and they send it back home.
Well, now I have to leave my home state where I grew up because I can't afford anything over here.
And it's just, you know, I think that they have to understand that part of the problem is is that if if there's uh some to be taken advantage of, they're gonna be taken advantage of.
And sixty-five billion dollars a year shows that they're taking advantage of it.
Steve, I only can pray that your call and the substance of it and the validity of it, which I'm as a San Diego so gratified to hear somebody in Long Island understand this thing as well as you do.
I'm just only hoping that Tony Snow and those folks at the White House who are now picking up on uh on this stuff, uh hear your call because you are 100% right.
I've been screaming about this for years, and I'm uh just appreciate your call, my friend.
Thank you.
By the way, I don't know.
Do you remember the uh the old song?
The Garment Workers Union had a song, Look for the Union Label.
Well, recently here in California, there's been an you know, some of these things like the national anthem is good now out in Spanish and so forth.
There, you know, we're rolling, the culture is kind of rolling with this business of having to adapt to this tsunami of illegals.
So there's a new uh song.
If you if you well, let's play the first one so you remember what I'm uh talking about here.
This is the old song.
Look for the union labels.
Why are you not remember somewhere?
Our union so we're wages go in favor.
And run the house, we work hard, but who's complaining?
Thanks to the ILG, we're paying our way.
So always look for the union label.
It says we're able to make it the USA.
All right, so there you have it.
I know uh uh uh I know the last time you heard it was around the dinner table with Dick Gebhard.
But in this uh the new one now in California goes something like this.
Look for the alien label when you need something, no ringo.
Remember somewhere, and it is going.
It is wages going to make it go where they love you, we work hard.
But who's complaining?
Thanks to the audience for paying the way.
So always look for the alien label.
It says we're able to break into the USA.
We're trying to roll with it.
That's all I'm telling you.
Now we've got some uh new information out of uh World Net Daily, and I appreciate their continuing to be on this issue as well.
Uh that there's a political angle to this that needs to be understood.
The administration is understandably sensitive about the election in Mexico.
There's a presidential election going on.
There's the wacko lunatic Hugo Chavez style uh leftist.
There's the middle of the road uh socialist from the PRI, and there's the mild Western European socialist of the uh PAN, the Panistas uh Party, uh National Action Party, uh, who is uh who is the uh the conservative of the group.
Now in Mexico, he's a conservative, he's a mild socialist, you know, something like a French politician.
He's the conservative.
That's the way kind of things go in South America.
So do you crack down on the border?
Uh feeding into the nationalist fervor of the wacko leftist Hugo Chavez style guy, uh, what's his name?
Obrador, who used to be the Mexico City uh mayor, who's uh refused to debate or refused to do anything, is uh running as if it was uh, you know, obvious that he should be the pre El Presidente, etc.
Uh so his arrogance is kind of costing him, and right now the Panista is coming up.
Uh and uh Bush is looking over there going, Well, boy, which one do we want to deal with here?
Another Hugo Chavez on our border, or somebody that we can actually deal with.
So there is a reluctance, and I understand this, this is the politics of it, to get too confrontational.
But in the meantime, Hugo Chavez is working quite closely with people in Mexico who agree with him, who would love to shut down, because I think this is not well known in the United States, who would uh and the importance of Mexico here cannot be overestimated, who would love to shut down Mexico as a source of our oil because guess what, fans?
Uh the number one source of imported oil to the United States is not Saudi Arabia, it's Mexico.
Guess what's number two?
Canada.
Guess what's number three?
Venezuela.
You know what number seven is?
Saudi Arabia.
Okay?
So let's get these things straight about where the threat is.
There is obviously a threat in the Middle East, don't get me wrong.
But let's look closer to home at what Hugo Chavez is trying to uh and the others he's put into uh office in Bolivia and he's uh working on uh Colombia and he's working on Mexico.
He and uh Castro have this uh plan.
By the way, did you see Forbes magazine?
I don't mean to jump around here as if I had ADD, but I do.
Uh did you see Forbes Forbes magazine that uh when they when they ran, you know, they rank every year the the uh wealthiest people.
They had a separate ranking for the wealthiest heads of state, the wealthiest heads of state.
Now, past Abdullah Abdi's whatever his name is, the head of Saudi Arabia, uh past him, you know, because he's a multi-billions of dollars.
Fidel Castro ranks in the top five.
Fidel Castro, in a communist nation where everyone is equal, where uh each according to his uh abilities and to each according to his needs, uh, where everyone has wonderful health care and is all equal, and we are all equal here in beautiful workers' paradise of Cuba.
Fidel Castro's worth nine hundred million dollars.
He is the head of every nationalized corporation.
He has his money stashed everywhere around the world.
He has 900 million dollars.
I hope all you leftist lunatics and your save Fidel and all that crazy stuff you've been doing for 40 years, understand that this guy simply took you for a ride.
Boy, I feel better saying things like this.
I'm Roger Hedgecock uh live on the Rush program, filling in for Russia Today.
He'll be back tomorrow.
We're gonna take a break.
Short, short, short, we'll be back with your call right after this.
Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Roger Hedgecock filling in for Rush.
He'll be back tomorrow, and uh, all the information in the meantime, of course, at Rush Limbaugh.com.
Taking your calls at 1-800-282-2882.
Here is uh Senator Frist today on the immigration issue.
Uh Senator Reed is saying, unless we come to a private agreement in committee, that means outside of the uh public, you know, and unless we come to a deal, nothing's going to get on the floor, and you start already making threats because that's what well, that's what Reed does.
You know, a tiger is a tiger, as Rush explains.
Uh, this Senator is Senator Reed.
He's Senator Reed uh communicates by making threats.
So, you know, we take this into account as we uh report, Senator Reed uh day by day.
On the other hand, Senator Frist, well, I'll let you characterize uh I'm I got a couple of quotes here.
Just characterize for yourself this approach.
Last week or two weeks ago we put an additional 1.9 billion dollars to look at infrastructure, things like unmanned aerial vehicles, sensors along the border, uh, the technology there.
We haven't delivered it yet, but we at least we passed it in the Senate.
Huh?
1.9 billion dollars you didn't have and you borrowed from my grandkids.
I don't have any, but I mean when I do.
Uh and uh and you're gonna quote look at infrastructure, unquote.
You know, I'm tired, kind of tired of looking at it.
I'd rather have Joe Arpayo go out and do something with his posse that doesn't cost another dime.
I mean, d do they think we don't know out here how ridiculous that sounds?
You're gonna throw more billions you don't have at a problem you really don't want to solve in a way that won't solve it when we already have examples of how to solve it on the ground that don't cost a dime.
Senator Frist, I'm sorry, you sound ridiculous.
And it's the worst thing a politician can sound like.
You know, you can sound extreme, you can sound strong, you can sound like, well, maybe you misstated.
You can sound a lot of different ways as a politician.
But when you get to where people are laughing, that's not a good spot.
Here's more.
One of the big challenges that we have is that there is almost no way we can spend enough money to secure the borders overnight.
See, that's how far away from reality, I guess the senators are, particularly Senator Frist.
You don't have to spend any money to secure the border.
Doesn't he understand what Orpayo has accomplished?
Doesn't he understand what even the Department of Homeland Security has accomplished in the two inches of the border along the Texas uh border there at Del Rio?
Don't doesn't he understand that we know that it can be done, and it can be done on the cheap, and you don't have to have uh drones and you don't have to have you know censors and and and high-tech uh border stuff.
Uh you know, here's the problem.
And I I know I know too much about this, because we're living right here on the border between Mexico and Tijuana.
I mean, between uh San Diego and Tijuana.
Here we are, between the United States and Mexico, right here, 15 miles, 13 miles from where I'm sitting, is the border.
Um got a call, what was it, a couple of months ago?
From uh fellow who went into the military, who had been a border patrol agent.
Frustration, level very high.
So he joined the National Guard, and right away, of course, he was uh put into uh border protection stuff.
He had the skills, so they put him into border protection in uh, well, one of these countries where we have a war.
And he's now shut down the border of Iraq.
Because they allowed him in Iraq to actually do border protection.
That he wasn't allowed to do in another branch of Federal Service called the Border Patrol here in San Diego.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, filling in for Rush Limbaugh, back after this.
Welcome back.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, filling in for Rush Limbaugh.
He'll be back uh tomorrow from uh Dallas, Texas, where he's uh doing a Rush for Excellence uh trip.
All the information at Rush Limbaugh.com, of course, and taking your calls at 1800-282-2882.
Now, Al Gore is uh is re emerging, and this story needs to be told as well as a potential candidate for president.
But what's surprising, I guess that's not so surprising, what's surprising about that is where he's going to get his money for this run.
This is going to be different.
Also want to talk about uh George Bush and the rest of the family.
Uh anointing Jeb for the Republican nomination in 2008.
We'll talk a little bit about that.
And this economy, the best economy ever in the history of the world.
George Bush gets no credit at all.
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