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May 4, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 4, 2006, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Yeah, I know.
This Massawi business, folks, this is.
That's unbelievable.
And I don't, I don't, I'm really not talking about the verdict and uh all this with the reaction to it.
Uh shows that we don't know.
Uh at least some of us haven't learned anything.
Greetings, uh, my friends, and welcome back.
Great to have you.
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I got uh I got I got to bed at 5 30 this morning, folks, and I I got up at 8.
Boy, uh it was tough.
Actually, I woke up at 7 30 and I was I I just I wanted to go back to sleep and I couldn't.
Uh well, yeah, I you know, it if I keep this up, the newsweek gang is gonna have to finally get it right about me being a hermit.
Um uh I I met and had dinner last night with Justice Scalia in uh in Missouri.
He was he was at a speaking tour yesterday, spoke uh in St. Louis uh yesterday afternoon, and he spoke in my adopted hometown.
I'm not a real hometown of uh I told you yesterday it was gonna be a late night, and when I'm this little sleep, sometimes I get giddy.
So bear with me today, folks.
Uh uh he spoke in Cape Girardeau, my hometown at the they they call it the Show Me Center.
Uh and he uh after that he was hosted at my cousin Steve's uh home for dinner.
There are about twenty-two people there.
The governor of Missouri was there, the uh Matt Blunt, the lieutenant governor, Peter Kender was there.
Uh my uncle Steve uh Sr., who's a federal judge in St. Louis, and my cousin Steve Jr. is on the Missouri Supreme Court.
Uh I was proud to tell Justice Scalia that I'm the first member of my family that did not graduate from college.
You know, you watch you watch certain television shows these days and sports events, and and uh the hero of the day.
Yeah, yeah, and I'm very, very proud, Happer.
I'm a first member of my family to get a college degree.
And of course, I'm the first in my family that and I may be the only uh in my family that doesn't have one, and I'm smarter than all of them.
I even said that at the table last night.
I was whispering it to somebody, I thought I was whispering, and they all heard it.
And everybody started laughing.
But it was uh it was a great time, and uh he uh I've I it was everything I I hoped that Justice Scalia was being he was down to earth and he was open, he was candid about about things, uh uh dis describing uh how the court operates and people were peppering him with questions.
And I finally said to him, I said, you know, I really respect you doing this because I'm sure when you leave the office you like to get away from the office, but uh uh he he was he was a gamer last night.
This was uh tremendous amount of fun.
Now let's let's and because uh it was late night had a fly back and and uh uh rolled in here actually landed about I guess it was uh 4 15 and I just I don't care what time it is, I cannot just go straight to bed when I get home.
It's just it's impossible for me to do it.
I feel like I'm still cheating myself on some part of the day.
If the minute I get home I go to bed.
I just can't cannot do it.
I don't remember what I did, but I but I know that I uh I didn't go to bed.
Now let's let's start with the Massawi business.
Uh ladies and gentlemen, uh I I want to try to focus here uh not not so much on whether the death penalty should have or should not have been uh uh part of his uh should have been should have been the verdict yesterday.
Uh I it it's six of one half dozen or other to me compared to what else needs to be said about this.
And let's start by listening to some sound bites.
Here's first is the president's reaction uh after the verdict yesterday.
Mr. Massawi got a fair trial.
The jury convicted him to life in prison where he'll spend the rest of his life.
And so doing they spared his life, which is something that he evidently wasn't willing to do for innocent American citizens.
And what is this being so concerned?
I mean, got a fair tri he made a mockery of this trial.
He made a mockery of this courtroom.
He turned that courtroom totally around and used it for his own purposes.
And he succeeded.
I'm not talking about whether or not he succeeded in staving off the death penalty.
I you know, everybody said, well, we can't kill the guy and make him a martyr.
And as uh as Mark, as Mark Levin uh says in his blog today at National Review Online, uh, it seems to me in the Middle East.
You can't fling a dead cat without hitting a martyr.
They're all over the place.
Martyrs are everywhere.
They're not dying in droves on purpose, but a bunch of garbage that we've bought into.
Uh but it that's still not the point.
I mean, it if it's people people have that attitude.
We're just missing the whole point of the war on terror here in the way we are dealing with these particular suspects.
Let me give you another example.
Here is Tim Romer.
He was on the CNN's Wolf Blitzer uh uh situation room.
He was a 9-11 commission member.
And uh Blitzer says, I know you've spent a lot of time with family members.
What do you make of this?
What's your reaction to the decision?
There'll be lots of opinions about whether this was the right or the wrong opinion, but we have a system that works.
And for the hearts and minds in the world uh looking at our system, this is what really separates us from the terrorists.
I'll tell you what separates us from the terrorists is that they aren't stigmatized by guilt.
They are laughing themselves silly at all this.
This Massaui guy, I don't know if he's a genius or genuinely insane, but he totally controlled this trial and totally controlled the uh the courtroom, and he was able to turn it into a political soapbox for himself.
And here we are.
Here's Romer applauding ourselves for what the world is going to think.
This let me Mr. Roomer, I guarantee you that not one terrorist around the world is going to lay down his jihad or his uh beheading knife or his IED because of this this thing that happened in the courtroom yesterday with Missawi.
We have not.
We have not diminished the number of terrorists by any number whatsoever.
And we haven't shown the rest of the world, you know, maybe we ought to sympathize with the United States.
Why why uh look at a fair trial with this guy that uh wanted to be part of the team, blew up three thousand Americans, but they still that's not how the American how the world's looking at it.
Who cares how the world's looking at?
We are in a war.
We're we tried this guy as a common everyday criminal who happened to uh have no news that he didn't tell us about regarding a plan to blow up a couple buildings or three buildings and so forth, and maybe even more.
Uh these people are conducting a war against us.
This was not an act of vandalism for crying out loud.
We're not trying some idiot third-rate criminal vandal here.
We are at war with jihadists.
This this act was an act of genocide against the United States, and it was the first of many that they hope to be able to make.
And here we are applauding ourselves.
It gets even better.
Let's let's we got some 9-11 families.
Now, fam seems to me that the politicized 9-11 families, those who hate Bush, always seem to get to the microphones and the cameras first after one of these things.
Uh here a couple of sound bites.
Rosemary Dillard uh portion of uh her remarks after the verdict.
We're not all safe.
All the things that they were gonna put in place since 9-11 have not happened.
So we, as voters, as Americans, we've got to get on our job now to make sure that things change.
It's gonna take your help, and we've got to get our Congress people, our president, everybody's gotta be involved.
Lord help us.
I mean, it's tough to sit here.
This is a 9-11 family member I know, folks.
But um uh I don't understand the the point.
We're not all safe.
I guess maybe maybe whether this Massawi's put to death or goes to jail for life are not safe.
That's probably true.
Uh we're not all safe.
Uh we're never ever all gonna be safe anymore uh because of what happened on 9-11.
But I don't know what, you know, all the things that we were gonna put in place since 9-11 haven't happened.
What w uh, I wonder who's responsible for that.
Does She um paying attention here, who's trying to hold up any efforts that we make, obstruct any efforts that we're making to try to find out when the next hit will be and who's gonna do it.
Here's Carrie Lamac.
Uh, hope I'm pronouncing her name right.
Uh, is it Lamac or Lemac uh uh and she's also a family member?
She said this after the verdict.
This country needs to understand the real risks that we're facing.
We can't even get our Congresspeople and our president to lock up nuclear material, even though terrorists, including Osama bin Laden, have said he wants to kill four million Americans.
If we're gonna blame Zacharias Musaui, he's not the real problem.
The real problem are the terrorists who do want to kill us, like Osama bin Laden, who's still not captured.
All right, now we're getting closer to having some sense here, but uh still a little bit uh off the mark.
But I gotta take a break here before I go too long here, end up with a uh uh sort of a wedgie short segment following.
So stick with us brief timeout back in just a second.
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Let's let's replay uh Carrie Lamac or Lima, however she pronounced.
I really don't know, folks.
I I you know, I I read close captioning when I watch television, so I don't hear names pronounced a lot, but here's her comment again to preface my uh in-depth timely analysis.
This country needs to understand the real risks that we're facing.
We can't even get our Congresspeople and our president to lock up nuclear material, even though terrorists, including Osama bin Laden, have said he wants to kill four million Americans.
If we're gonna blame Zacharias Musawi, he's not the real problem.
The real problem are the terrorists who do want to kill us, like Osama bin Laden who's still not captured.
The reason I'm torn here because even though she may not know it, she's right about a couple things.
Now, this is this is obvious, uh obviously here an anti-administration family member.
They are the ones that manage to get to the drive-by media broadcast apparatus uh faster than anybody else does.
Uh she's right, the country needs to understand the real risks that we're facing.
But trials like this do not help.
I'm sorry, folks, this is not the way you win wars.
You don't win wars in courtrooms with defense lawyers coming up with excuses, eh, he was left alone by his parents in Morocco or whatever the hell it was for cry crying out loud, hell's bells, this is totally irrelevant.
These are jihadists, these are warriors, these are people who have the intention of committing genocide.
And it's and and to sit there and deal with this in a case-by-case basis is not gonna help us deal with the uh upcoming uh uh conflicts with these people that we're going to have because we're not gonna defeat them in the courtroom.
But Rush, but Rush, what about the system of justice?
I'm I have no quarrel with the system of justice just being misused here.
This is not I mean, these judges, these defense lawyers, they're not even educated on the ideology of these people.
This is an ideology we're facing.
It's an ideology of hate, barbarism, genocide.
It's just it's it's all over.
Yet we're gonna try this guy as though he's just an average ordinary American citizen that's gone astray.
Uh, for some reason, and we're gonna come up with great reasons to plaque uh uh pat ourselves on the back while we accomplish nothing in the war on terror.
Now I know you might think, well, Rush, what about the 9-11 family?
Well, I'll get to that.
Because that's a good question.
You think I'm ignoring their pain or slighting them?
Not at all.
Not about I just I don't I don't think the 9-11 families were the only victims.
The nation was the target.
Those those 3,000 people were not personally selected by these terrorists or bin Laden or anybody.
Those are all of our citizens.
They're with they are part of the nation.
The nation was hit.
And and and not not the slight by any stretch.
The per the the pain and and and so forth of the actual families of those who got hit, but it's about more than that.
It's about more than that.
And when these these families, of course, they have to deal with their pain in any number of ways, and some of them have chosen, have been seduced by the uh the the liberals out there, these leftists preying on victims and uh and giving them uh something to latch on to in terms of meaning for the rest of their lives.
And that the sum total here of Miss Lamac's comment is to blame the United States.
When you get right down to it, it's not Massaui's problem.
We haven't gotten bin Laden, so we're not solving any problem.
We can't get our Congresspeople and our president to lock up nuclear.
You know, the what she if she would just leave out the president and the previous uh Rosemary Dillard, too.
The problem here is that Democrats in Congress when it comes to taking action to fight the war on terror.
I mean, when they're gonna try to criminalize uh the apprehension of prisoners and the interrogation of prisoners, if we are going to criminalize uh other aspects of uh the president's behavior to impeach him over this national security program of foreign surveillance.
I mean silly.
Another soundbite.
This is um who is this?
Uh Widower Abraham Scott had some comments after the verdict.
I hate to say this.
I don't have real confidence in this administration bringing him to justice.
I look forward to the new administration coming in and focusing on focusing on what's needed to be done in terms of uh taking the necessary intelligent action and military acting to bring bin Laden to justice.
All right.
So um the administration that actually apprehended Massaui and put him on trial can't be trusted because it's not competent.
So this guy's waiting for the next administration, meaning a Democrat.
How how how this guy cannot even be paying attention to what the Democrats are saying if that's what he's waiting for.
But also this notion that capturing bin Laden is the solution and the answer to this.
It may be for the 9-11 families, and one of the ways they will feel justice and vengeance and so forth, but that's not going to solve the nation's problem that we face during this uh period that we are at war.
Now, I've got the New York Times story here.
Massawi given life term by jury, and we got don't worry, Kristen Breitweiser is coming up, but I want to save Miss Breitweiser for after the uh after the break.
It was a 42-page verdict given to the judge, and the jurors listed how many of them agreed with each of the more than two dozen mitigating factors put forward by the defense.
Now, the jurors, they didn't go out there and speak, uh, and they didn't explain, but if you look at at some of the the uh the juror cards, the juror forms, you can get a pretty good idea what it was that moved them.
The form said that two mitigating factors drew the greatest agreement with nine jurors finding they were valid issues to be weighed in their decision.
The first was that Mr. Massawi suffered an unstable early childhood and dysfunctional family life and a hostile relationship with his mother that led to his being placed in French orphanages.
Now, does that not sound like the couch on the Oprah Winfrey show?
What in the world does that have to do with the war on terror?
And I'm by the way, I am not suggesting he should have been put to death.
I don't want anybody to get confused about this because that's not my point here.
We are trying this case in and in the midst of the war on terror, and we are applying our own guilt-laden societal screw-ups and our own invented traumas and our own invented dysfunctions, and we are applying them to a an enemy, combatant, and excusing his behavior.
This is reminiscent to me of the Menendez uh uh jury.
When one of those Menendez kids went out there and shot his mother and she wasn't dead yet, so he went out reloaded and uh shot again from point blank range, and the jurors felt so sorry for him because he wasn't gonna have his mother anymore.
Yeah, well, that's because uh he uh killed his well, but he's such a good boy.
And we he's just gonna he's not gonna have his mother.
The second factor.
Get this.
You want to talk about the feminization of this country, the second factor that these uh nine jurors said weighed heavily on their minds, and at least on their on their voter cards, uh juror cards, was that his father had a violent temper and physically and emotionally abused his family.
Now, uh these jurors end up being persuaded he should not be put to death because he basically had a bad childhood in any structured financial support or anything emotional support.
He was in an orphanage and so forth.
Uh this is a travesty.
This is an absolute uh travesty.
I know it's not his fault.
It really wasn't his fault.
Uh it was bin Laden's fault for recruiting him and whoever, whatever the mental gyrations they went through.
I have I have a piece here by uh Walid Farris uh uh that I want to share with you when we come back from the break.
The New York Times and LA Times uh uh they they write editorials about this today.
Uh and and both editorials talk about how they they get club gitmo involved.
It's it's it just it's just oh it's i i if the wrong people get control of this nation's defense folks, uh uh I will for the first time express great concern to you.
Pumping up the volume on the EIB network.
All right, let's let's go to uh the audio sound bites.
I've I want to I want to play a soundbite from Kristen Breitweiser, uh, a 9-11 widow.
She was on a hardball with Chris Matthews last night.
Uh I watched this on the way.
I was uh flying to uh Missouri last night.
I watched this, but I wasn't really paying much attention uh because I had accompaniment, which was a better view.
Uh but uh uh nevertheless, I want to illustrate here that there is there is a symbiotic relationship between some of these 9-11 families and the drive-by media and the Democratic Party.
Here is Kristen Breitweiser's reaction to the verdict.
I think that we have other people in our own custody that certainly knew more than Musawi, namely Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, uh Khalad bin Atash and Ramzi Ben Al Sheib.
And I think that they had a more direct connection to 9-11, and more appropriately should be being prosecuted by our Justice Department, more so than Musawi, who was in jail on the day of 9-11.
All right.
All right.
So um the some totalers, well, Massawi, big deal.
They're not making any headway trying Musawi.
What about bin al-Shib?
What about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed?
What about Tafiq bin Atash?
I hold here in my formerly nicotine stand a summary of uh uh U.S. media reaction to the Massawi case.
The New York Times said the jury's rejection of the death penalty for Massawi seemed to surprise most people in the courtroom, but that wider reactions varied greatly.
That for the Times, the most important thing about the Massawi trial was that it happened.
The proceedings, including the jury deliberations, were long and difficult, but they were also fair and in accordance with the rules of American justice.
However, the paper suggested that that was not the story for hundreds of other people, many far less complicit than Mr. Missawi, who are languishing in the prison at Club Gitmo.
So the New York Times pines for the lost boys of Club Gitmo.
While we're putting Massawi on trial, why aren't we extending uh the the uh the loveliness of the American system of judicial uh juudence jurisprudence to these uh these unfortunate souls who are being held and tortured illegally by the Bush administration?
This was a theme taken up by the Los Angeles Times in an article entitled No Trials for Key Players.
Now, how does this happen?
Well, but it's all the same.
It's like I was talking about yesterday.
When do we find out?
Isn't all this news the same?
Who is it that is responsible for this?
The L LA Times goes club gitmo, too.
No trials for key players.
Writer David Savage remarked that two presumed key planners of the Al-Qaeda plot, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad and Ramsey bin Al Shib have not been charged, but they've been in custody for more than three years.
It's just what Kristen Breitweiser just said.
For the Washington Post, the verdict was a resounding victory for Musawi's defense team and for American justice.
In an editorial headline, The Right Punishment, the Washington Post said a jury has to have courage to reject capital punishment in a case like that of uh Zacharius Musawi.
Let me jump to this piece here by um Walid Farris uh Musaui wrong court, wrong debate.
So when I read this today, I said, how about how this echoes it's written much better than I was thinking it, but uh it echoes my my instinctive reaction to this.
Let me just read you some excerpts of this.
Mr. Farris says, let me be clear from the beginning.
The issue I'm raising is not about the death sentence or life in prison sentencing.
That part should have been the last stage in the debate.
The Massawi trial is not about the principle of common criminal sentencing per se.
It's about criminalizing terrorism and its root ideologies.
And here are a few points that make my analytical case.
The victims of September 11th, and this is something that this is so dead on.
The victims of September 11th were not selected by Al Qaeda or even by the perpetrators, including Massawi, personally.
The men, women, and children massacred throughout that day of infamy are the targets of a terror war on America, not vandalism on two towers in New York and a large building in Washington.
Terrorism could have targeted other high rises and objectives in different cities.
The matter is not an individual vendetta between Massawi and the 300 persons Mohammed Atta and his jihadists have killed.
America was targeted as a nation for the purpose of genocide.
As a massacred collectivity, the victims of 9-11 belong to the nation, not to their relatives.
As individuals, the victims are profoundly mourned by all Americans and above all by their survivors.
So who tried Al-Qaeda on behalf of the nation in this Massawi?
And nobody did.
Al Qaeda, jihad.
This whole organization that we're facing was not put on trial.
An individual was, and we're all patting ourselves on the back about our great system and how the rest of the world and the terrorists will see how a civilized society does it.
Well, I don't I'm all for civilized societies doing the right thing, but if we think that's going to win the war on terror, if we think that bin Laden's going to watch the results of this trial, so you know what?
We've been wrong about the U.S. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna lay down our arms or we're gonna cancel a jihad against the U.S. That's silly to think that.
And to be governed by that possibility.
Anyway, another point from Mr. Ferris.
Massawi is part of a machinery larger than himself.
In the 9-11 planning process, he is not a sole mechanism acting individually.
He was executing orders by Al Qaeda.
He had the intention of carrying them out.
He is a nucleus that fell behind in a wider cell that moved forward.
His relation to the masquer is not pragmatic, but mechanical.
Hence the judicial process of finding out if he caused or not the process of specific events is not the issue.
For he is openly admitted, and it was proven that he was part of the machinery put in place to perpetrate the massacre.
That he slipped or failed or missed his opportunity is only one fact within a greater reality, which is his commitment to achieve the mass killing and his participation in a chain of events that led to it, even if he didn't walk through the large the last part of the horror.
More seriously is the current system's ability to process the terror cases.
Per my own experience and open documents available, most of the players in a current courtroom setting are often unable to absorb the density of the confrontation.
The jury, made of ordinary citizens, generally do not comprehend the ideology of the jihadists, and thus they can't make a strategically educated decision, not on the sentencing process, but on the essence of the war crime at hand.
U.S. judges are highly capable of controlling the procedure in their courtrooms, but they haven't been able by the system to try a war with jihadi terror, if not specialized in Kumaniism or Salafism and other movement strategies, thinking process, or even tactics.
Prosecutors are as well thrown into battles of ideas beyond their basic training in the Massaui case.
The jury asks for a dictionary refused by the judge.
The question deserves an answer.
Now, what he's saying here is, what I was trying to say in my own way before I started reading the piece, we're not dealing with a single guy here.
We're not dealing with a vandal.
We're dealing with an ideology, and nobody's educating people in the courtroom about this ideology.
The most I guess the greatest education is being attempted is by the left, in which they're trying to convince as many Americans as possible that Bush is the terrorist, that Bush is responsible for all this, and that Bush is holding a bunch of unfortunate waifs who haven't been charged.
Oh, whoa is us.
How can we dare do this?
What's the world going to think of us?
Bush is the criminal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The debate on the Massawi case, continues Mr. Walid Ferris, uh won't stop nationwide and beyond in view of the progressive realization by most Americans and many citizens of other democracies that this case will be a benchmark in the history of the judicial front with terror.
Therefore, it's important to avoid all these Byzantine debates and reserve the energies to the center of the crisis, not its peripheries.
Consider, for example, how the martyrdom affair plays in the uh in terrorist chat rooms.
These Mr. Ferris has gone to the chat rooms and the terrorists are watching the trial and they're listening to Americans debate.
Well, you know, we ought not make this guy a martyr.
We ought not kill him.
We ought to give him a death penalty because that's exactly what he wants.
Here's just a sample from a salafist chat room.
These infidels are so easy to dupe, said a cadre in the uh Al Ansar Paul Talk room a few months ago.
All you have to do is play to their ethics or lead them to believe that we are simple minded.
They'll think we're smarter, they'll think that we're bigger, and they will feel sorry for us, and they will have I'm adding this, and our collective guilt will make it such that uh that that we're gonna uh we're gonna be nice because we can't show the full force of our power and our intentions.
And Mr. Ferris says this is exactly what Zicarius Massawi was able to achieve, alone against the whole American political culture.
First, he dramatized his personal life to the extreme, leading some to believe that his past was the root cause for his violent choices.
When in fact, the ideology that recruited him was responsible for the jihad he chose to practice, not his parents, not an orphanage, and not a lack of money.
The people that recruited him are responsible.
The ideologists, the jihadists, the Al-Qaeda types, whoever.
And they were not on trial in his trial in that courtroom, and that's what's wrong with this.
He was on trial as a single guy for a whatever emotional help, assistance we could give ourselves.
Second, Massaui dramatized his stance to the limits by threatening to throw himself into the death row and force the jury to retreat into psychological guilt.
Indeed, one Al-Qaeda man, initial member of the 9-11 terror raid, single-handedly outmaneuvered the jury, the court, and potentially the public.
By transforming the judicial challenge into a debate about death penalty and all the American psychological consequences that follows, Zicarius Musaui deflected the attention from the real mammoth in the courtroom.
The ideology of jihadism.
Instead of trying the criminal ideology he acted on behalf, America fell into the trap of struggling with itself as a merciful or revengeful society.
Shelby Steele comes home again.
By the way, interviewing him next Tuesday for the next issue of the uh of the Limbaughter.
Because at peace, everything he wrote in that piece you can find in every mistake we are making.
Collective guilt, all the American psychological consequences.
Oh, yeah, it was like the Oprah show.
Listening a little to what these jurors decided.
Well, poor poor kid is in an orphanage, abandoned, beaten up by his party.
It's mandatory you gotta have that in there, because all men are predators.
It has nothing to do with making him who he is.
There are all kinds of people that go through circumstances like that that do not become mass murderers, do not become members of a whacked-out, dangerous ideology.
Massawi feels that he won all the way.
Even if he got life in prison.
He played the martyrdom card till his audience nauseated.
He then played his personal life card till he obtained the mitigating factor.
He played it tight, close and smartly.
His colleagues brought down towers five years ago, but Massaui administered another type of strikes against his foes, defeating them through their own system.
What the courtroom in Virginia missed in its trial of the decade was the factory that produced Massawi's mind.
A life sentence is not necessarily a bad choice in democracies or the wrong message to send when needed if the nation the jury came from is unable to cast a death sentence on the ideologies of jihad and hatred.
And that's why this courtroom, any courtroom as we are currently constructed, is the wrong place to be fighting this war or to be getting uh some sort of vengeance or to learn more about what's gonna happen with these people in the war on terror.
And you can read all these baseless, worthless, silly, stupid editorials praising the American system.
It works.
The world sees that we're good people.
Spare me.
Isn't it enough that we know we're good people?
Why can't we take solace in the fact that we know it?
We're gonna let our guilt run around and make us think maybe we're not good people.
But we are good people.
And it doesn't take much confidence, and it does it's not hard to come to this conclusion.
But then the New York Times and the LA Times still have to get in their digs.
Well, yeah, we got Miss Alley, but what about the poor boys of club Gitmo who aren't getting such a fair shake?
I mean, uh I have I have uh never seen such a lack of understanding of what's actually going on and how to deal with it.
Um I can't tell you in how long a period of time.
Gotta run, folks, be right back.
Half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
L. Rushball behind the golden EIB microphone at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
I'm gonna get to your phone calls here in just a sec, but I want to uh uh share with you one more sound bite from uh 9-11 widow Kristen Breitweiser from Hardball with Chris Matthews last night.
Obviously, I'm not stupid.
I understand that there are m much talk, a rumor that we've tortured them, we're unable to prosecute them, and I think that that needs to be debated amongst the American people.
Um if we are going to say that we successfully prosecute terrorists, then we should actually do that with the case of Musaui.
I don't think um, you know, I think it I hope it motivates our government to prosecute um those people that we have in our custody that certainly had a more direct connection than Musawi did.
And I hope it sends a message that, you know, in some cases torture is going to bar our ability to hold people accountable.
All right, so I mean, she just hits on all uh drive-by media notes, all the liberal talking points, the Democrat Party talking points.
Uh I you know, folks, I understand the grief and uh the 9-11 family members uh are still experiencing.
I know some, and I understand.
But what when they step off the reservation start getting political, you know, uh I'm not gonna let that grief give them cover.
What when they when they start, you know, joining a political debate, and you know, the the the their political comments here are fair game.
And what she's talking about here, she is uh she's she's happy Musli will be spared, but what's she angry about, she's angry that Khalid Sheikh Muhammad uh was tortured and can't be tried.
Uh it sh he shouldn't be tried.
He's an enemy combatant.
He doesn't deserve an American jury trial.
What needs to happen here is the American people need to get with it and understand that we are at war with an ideology, and these are members, these are just you know, individual pack rats.
And we're not gonna win this war by prosecuting all these people.
We're never gonna be able to do that.
Particularly in our system, as you can see, when we can make juries think that they joined a jihad group and they have become Wahabis or Salafists or whatever because of American invented syndromes that we then project onto them.
Why?
Because of our collective guilt uh and our inability to project our power fully and decisively.
And we're never gonna get any headway on this or make any headway quickly.
Brian in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, you're up next in the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, Russ.
Um, first of all, I just want to tell you last Thursday, right outside of Baghdad, I lost my cousin, a very brave Marine to a roadside bomb.
And I can truly say that we can partially blame the Liberal Democrats for his death because they continue to empower the terrorists by proving to them that it's not a priority to defeat them.
And I think yesterday's decision on the sell the soul is probably a direct result.
Um it's just another proof of what they're doing as far as swaying, swaying the comp country.
And you gotta believe that the terrorists are smiling as to the decision of what they saw yesterday.
I I I I couldn't agree more.
I'm I'm we're we're all terribly sorry for your loss.
That's the that's uh coupled it with the uh if if you believe that there's uh partial culpability uh for inspiring the terrorists and motivate them.
I totally understand that too.
That's yeah, you have all of our sympathies.
You're right, you may have a point.
You know, this jury it it may it may be comprised of people who actually have uh been paying attention to all these things they've been hearing from the Democrats about how the war is immoral.
I don't know.
I gotta take a quick time out here.
Um thanks for the call, Brian.
Back in just a second.
All right, time's flying, folks.
We're gonna get to a lot more of your phone calls in the next hour.
Some really good immigration news coming up, uh, and other things too.
I mean, we just got started.
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