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April 20, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 20, 2006, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I'm just sifting through some late arriving show prep.
Uh show prep never stops life is show prep.
Greetings.
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Now, ladies and gentlemen, as you know, the uh uh Chikom leader, uh President Hu.
Hu Xin Tao is uh in Washington today.
Big, big, big meetings with President Bush at a official arrival ceremony today outside the diplomatic entrance of the White House.
And uh when and they both uh leaders uh stood up there and made speeches, uh, who was heckled by a Falloon Gong babe.
Uh and what one of the things that we've always done on this program when when when communist leaders come to this country and are accorded these great ceremonial opportunities to speak to the American people.
Uh we always take the occasion to officially translate uh what these leaders are saying.
We know you know, you the translator for for who can say he says anything.
I mean, who among us understands uh Chinese?
What I do, I go out there and I get somebody who actually listens, and we translate uh while uh while the communist leader, whoever it happens to be, we've done this with Gorbachev, we've did this with uh uh who uh we've done it with a number of uh uh Zhang Zemen.
Uh we did it, uh did it with uh Zhang Zim and by the way, he was staying in San Francisco once.
Zhang Zemen was and uh he had sent his laundry out uh to be clean, and somebody brought it back, knocked on the door, and uh and he one of his aides answered it, and uh the person in the hotel said, Can you tell me where's the men's room is?
Uh at any it's a little cheap humor, uh ladies and gentlemen.
Let's not waste any more time.
Those of you new to the program, you've never heard this before, but it's a standard procedure uh and feature here at the EIB network as we translate and tell you what these uh these communist leaders are actually saying when they are addressing the American people.
Thank you.
Thank you, uh Mr. President, for your kind invitation that I know you really don't mean.
I wanted a full state visit, complete with state dinner.
So you denied my request.
Instead, I have to stand here in the sun making like I'm enjoying this.
I know you hate state dinners because you go to bed at nine o'clock, but I wanted to party.
Like when our good friend Bill Clinton was here.
And I would have told you where bin Laden is if you'd given me the chance to boogie.
You really think I would spend time in your shack in Texas?
I see enough shacks every day without going to yours.
No way was I gonna have a summit in a shack as you originally wanted.
No Chicom leader will be caught dead in a photo op chopping wood.
In fact, no Chaicom leader will be caught dead.
Yo, how can she also want to uh thank the American people for stopping the Dubai ports deal?
We own your ports, and we will strangle you.
We don't need Dubai.
So everybody from Bill Gates to George Bush is complaining to me about intellectual property.
You know this, America.
Your intellectual property is ours.
Bill Gates is an idiot, thinking he'd intimidate me.
I I wouldn't use Windows if he paid me.
I'm a Mac guy.
at Gordie Hauser, his made me sick.
His...
60-多年前...
To me, Nyangore Ming.
She is old Kangji Fashion.
Why don't you shoot that protester, run her over with a tank?
Or send her to your prison called Club Gitmo and Torture.
This is sabotage.
You telling me that President Bush can't shut that woman up.
King Jong Il warned me about this.
should have listened.
Anyway, back to Bill Gates.
That gaudy house of his made me s somebody shut that woman up or I'm leaving.
That gaudy house of gates has made me sick.
He's a true capitalist pig, and he's proud of it.
Such arrogance.
And his menu, only three courses for the future dictator of the world.
And I had my choice between halibut and steak.
I'm tired of eating fish.
You can't eat filet mignon with chopsticks.
Tempted to tell him I wanted some white rice with missiles from Comrade Charlie Tree's restaurant in Little Rock just to see what he would do.
And I don't appreciate being lectured to about our currency.
We own most of your national debt.
We have destroyed a significant portion of your manufacturing base with wages lower than you even pay those fool immigrants.
If you keep this up, we're going to sell the debt of yours that we own to Dubai.
Dubai.
Here's the truth.
More interested in watching American idol than you are in defending your weak, pathetic capitalist pig country.
And by the way, the way you portrayed us as inept on your show 24, we knew Jack Bauer was alive all the time.
He's not worth dealing with.
We will bury you.
The Chinese people are slaves.
They will die on my command.
And besides, I need to get rid of about 300 million of them anyway because we can't feed them.
What better way than by using them to bury you?
Which reminds me.
How come you're deporting our illegal immigrants who arrive in shipping containers at ports we run?
yet you open your border to the Mexicans.
You let Fox get away with solving his problems, that you stand in our way while pledging mutual understanding and cooperation?
We'll bury you.
You think we have mutual strategic interests?
Wrong.
Unless you Americans want to be buried.
You believe any phony compliment offered by anybody.
You don't even know me, and you're treating me better than your own president.
I know what your stupid drive-by media is gonna do with the protesters.
They're gonna get mad at her.
They're gonna ask why in the world would Bush allow this to happen to disrespect me, a communist.
You are such softies.
We'll bury you.
As far as the lunatic in Iran is concerned, the only thing stopping us from burying you now, and I agree with that lunatic.
The only thing stopping us from burying you now is George W. Bush.
We're patient people.
We will wait till you elect a Democrat as president.
As communists, we understand how to scare the hell out of them.
We encourage global warming because we get away with it without punishment.
We know this is because that you are scared to death of us, as you should be.
We will bury you.
and further develop the international trade-off.
And don't cry to me about oil and gasoline prices, Mr. President, when we have our meeting.
We hope you continue to try and put your big oil executives in prison.
We admire that.
But don't think it makes us your friend.
We have every bit the right to steal the world's resources as you do, and we will continue to do so.
I've already had secret meetings with the Saudis.
They know that we are the future leader of the world, plus they know we will bury them too.
If they don't supply our needs, we intend to bury them anyway.
All this talk about limiting nuclear weapons is boring.
Who do you think you are to tell the people of the world they can't kill you and anybody else they want?
We agree with your Democrats.
Senator Kennedy, Senator Kerry.
America poses the biggest threat to freedom, security, prosperity.
We look forward to working with them in a few years.
we also look forward to expanding cooperation in technology and culture, because without yours, we don't have any technology.
And not much culture.
Besides, we don't allow culture.
Speaking of technology, we bought quite a bit of technology from our friend Bill Clinton, your ex-president.
But we haven't seen all the deliveries.
And now we learn that our friend Bill also allowed the stupid Iranians to nuke up.
We will not be humiliated like this.
Do not try to export your liberalism to us.
We have the real thing in China.
don't need cheap imitators.
Now listen to me on Taiwan.
I'm only going to say this once.
We We own it.
It's ours.
And they are dead.
Or they soon will be.
If you stop us, if you even try to stop us, we will bury you sooner than we intend to.
When I stand here in light of you about working with the international community to build an enduring peace, I'm almost gag.
I guess I couldn't care less about peace.
We're into domination.
But I know your sappy leftists love the talk of peace.
I almost thought about showing up here in some Birkin stocks just for the fun of it.
The thing is, we don't want peace.
We want domination.
We will bury you.
And it will take care of the Russians once and for all.
It has created a successful economic and technical achievement.
I also want to say to the American people, I bring with me today a sizable donation to the Cynthia McKinney Legal Defense Fund.
Just as we contributed to President Clinton's defense fund, the People's Republic of China supports the oppressed peoples of all countries.
Now I have to go inside this White House.
I have to go into what's called the Oval Office, sit down, and listen to this cowboy preach to me about how wrong we in China are about things.
You'll see some pictures of it, and when you do, notice that I am smiling.
But that's on the outside.
...
Because on the inside we are plotting to bury it.
One other thing.
Huge financial and business arrangement with your Walmart.
We love Walmart.
In China.
They build big factories, big warehouses.
will someday own Walmart.
And we will bury you.
Okay, we're back at cutting edge of societal evolution.
El Rushbo having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
Great to have you with us, by the way.
The um the uh uh arrival ceremony for Hugin Tao, as you heard during our uh uh translation interrupted by a protester who appealed to President Bush to uh stop who from persecuting the Falloon Gong.
The woman began shouting from the top of a camera stand.
It was located directly in front of the two leaders so that news photographers could record the arrival ceremony in the South Lawn.
She shouted heavily uh accented in English, President Bush stop him from killing in President Bush, stop him from persecuting the Falloon Gong.
Now the uh the president was standing next to who leaned over, whispered a comment to who paused briefly.
Well no.
Uh Bush standing next to who leaned over to who and whispered a comment to who, who paused briefly when the shouting began.
And then uh resumed uh his remarks.
Uh the uh the Derek Mitchell, a former Asia advisor At the Pentagon, now an analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies said this is hugely embarrassing.
China must know that this Bush administration is good at controlling Crouch for themselves.
And the fact that they couldn't control this is going to play with their worst fears and suspicions about the United States in a mistrust about American intention toward China.
Can you believe that?
You know, it's it's amazing.
You can a president of the United States or any Republican get heckled left and right, and the media will go make stars of the heckler.
And they'll track the heckler down at a town hall meeting, somebody asks a question the drive-by media loves, and that person becomes a hero.
Uh but let this happen, and of course it's Bush's fault, and this is going to embarrass us.
Typical State Department type.
In fact, we got audio soundbite on this.
This is uh grab audio soundbite number four.
Because the press is in hysteria over this heckler.
Uh Bush gets heckled 14 times a day, but you scream at one Chicom dictator and the press and and and and the liberals are outraged.
How could how could how could Bush let this happen?
The Chinese people will be offended.
Let me give you a clue, folks.
Chinese people never saw it.
The minute the heckler started screens on international TV and Chinese TV went black.
The Chinese people never saw it.
In fact, they probably think something's wrong in their homes when the screens go black.
Anyway, this is how CNN dealt with it.
For President Who, this moment was so important.
This was his first visit to the White House as the leader of the Chinese people.
Certainly it will mar undoubtedly their visit uh going forward, because uh for the Chinese, at least according to those that I talked to, protocol matters, appearance matters, uh image, images matter.
All of these events carefully staged, carefully crafted, uh, in order to show the Chinese people really, uh, that in fact the U.S. views China as uh a power to respect.
Come on.
So this is a good thing.
There is going to be now this one instance of this protester opening up their sessions today, um, really sort of being a blemish, if you will, on this visit.
Oh, come on!
I can't this is this this is patently absurd.
The Chinese people are irrelevant.
This is not about showing the Chinese people and government of the United States respects them.
This is this is this is this is idiotic.
This is this is a member of the media who at least ought to understand the way communist societies work, and how there is no press freedom, and how anything like this is going to get suppressed and blacked out and not seen anyway.
Appearances matter, images matter.
All these events are carefully staged, carefully crafted in order to show the Chinese people really, really that in fact the U.S. views China as a power to respect.
No, that's your own opinion from the drive-by media.
We're not trying to show the Chinese people we respect them as a power.
We're not that's that's not what the purpose of this is.
Now, having said that, when this happened, I said to myself, there's something not right about this.
There's something not right about this.
I know the Falloon Gong, and they're a religious uh group in China.
They are being put to death, they're being oppressed, and I'm not surprised, and there was a lot a lot of Chinese people further away that that are protesting, because they know the truth.
I mean, please, Mr. President, don't let this man kill any more Chinese and more Falloon Gong.
We're dealing with a communist here.
Hu Xin Tao.
However, in his remarks, the president, before this babe stood up and started making the ruckus.
The president uh uh, well, in fact, we've got the bite here.
I think this is the right bite.
Uh-huh, uh yeah, but I'm not sure.
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
Here you go.
No, number three.
Play number three.
This is George W. Bush, and and this is before Who spoke.
As the relationship between our two nations grows and matures, we can be candid about our disagreements.
I'll continue to discuss with President Who the importance of respecting human rights and freedoms of the Chinese people.
China's become successful because the Chinese people are experienced the freedom to buy and to sell and to produce, and China can grow even more successful by allowing the Chinese people the freedom to assemble to speak freely and to worship.
All right.
Now, that last line by uh they grow even uh uh more successful by allowing the Chinese people to uh freedomly uh to freedom to assemble and to speak freely and to worship.
And all of a sudden here comes this Falloon Gong protester.
Now it wouldn't surprise me if this was allowed to happen.
Wouldn't surprise me.
I know George W. Bush, and I know he he's this is not ceremonial to him.
And he has some things that he really wants to tell these people, and what better way to show him who uh what this country is all about and what freedom is than to allow that to happen.
I'm just guessing wouldn't surprise me if that were the case, but I don't know.
Drive-by media is so predictable.
Times online in the UK, already out with a story on this by Jenny Booth and uh and other news agencies.
Protest punctures Mr. Who's welcome to White House.
The smooth progress of the visit was interrupted, however, when a woman of Chinese appearance in a dark green suit launched herself from a roped-off area on the lawn, shouting in an attempt to prevent Mr. Who from making a speech.
Falun Dufa is good, she screamed as Mr. Who was making his opening remarks.
Her voice was so loud that Mr. Bush turned to look, appearing visibly embarrassed.
The interruption likely to displease the Chinese visitors already annoyed by the U.S. decision to downgrade the status of Mr. Who's stay?
I told you, who wanted a full boat?
He wanted a state dinner, he wanted uh the whole mess.
The White House originally wanted a multiple-day summit down at Crawford, Texas.
And who didn't want that?
And uh who wanted to state dinners, they compromised for this thing.
And then this this woman shows up, pops out of nowhere.
She actually didn't pop out of nowhere.
But here's the last the last paragraph of this story from the Times Online.
China has kept a tight hold on religious movements, cautiously allowing homegrown Buddhism and Confucianism uh to develop and strictly controlling or banning others.
Well, you know, that's the way they do things.
Supposed to respect that, I suppose.
But here's the interesting thing about this, ladies and gentlemen.
Where was this media when she piped up?
This woman when she piped up.
She's in the media.
She was in the media section.
Now, I'm assuming that she therefore was a credentialed journalist for this event.
If she wasn't a credential journalist, then somebody snuck her in there after everybody.
I don't know how that could be, but apparently uh the the woman was there somehow, and she was close enough, she was with the photographers, and and she's close enough to be seen and heard when she when she opened up.
Now, here's a woman who's had family members killed by the WHO regime.
The Chinese government.
They they they they they murder, they kill 8,000 political prisoners a year in China.
Now, how come the media is not interested in finding out everything she said?
Why don't they want to go out and find out just exactly what's happened to her and her family or her uh her her fellow worshippers.
If it were Cindy Sheehan, she would be celebrated today for showing up and having done this.
If it were Cindy Sheehan, she would be adopted, she would be embraced by the very same media that is today, jumping all over this woman's case for disrupting this important visit.
Have they upset the feelings of uh of President Who, the Chicom leader.
Doesn't surprise me, but I nevertheless uh wanted to point it out to you.
Caleb in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Hello, Rush.
Uh, just a quick point.
Uh you probably already kind of caught this, but I it sounds like the media has compared to when Bush gets protested in Europe, it's just, hey, free speech deal, they're doing what, you know, what's understood.
But when somebody protests uh leader of a nation that has terrible human rights violations, it's like, you know, a big surprise to them.
What's he thinking?
Or what is what is this lady thinking?
Yeah, well, I I I I did make that point.
The um uh whether Bush gets protested here or overseas, they make heroes of the protesters.
They go out and find the at the town meetings.
I mean, it was a town meeting at Bush was attended not long ago, two or three weeks ago, and some guy stood up and uh gave Bush a little static about the domestic spy man.
The guy became a three-day media hero.
He couldn't get off television, couldn't get off radio, his phone kept ringing.
Uh They made him an instant star.
In this case, I think I think what governs this is that the um what you have you have a bunch of overlays.
Number one is these people in the drive-by media do not like George W. Bush.
They just don't like him.
They also love folks.
I hate I mean this is no different than when the Soviets were around.
Uh the the drive-by media just has they have an affection for leftist totalitarian dictators and communist societies.
I got a sneeze coming on.
I They do.
They absolutely do.
They still embrace Fidel Castro.
Out in Oakland and San Francisco, they still march and wear Shea Guevara uniforms.
Hugo Chavez down in Venezuela has been visited by Democrat politicians, gone down there on hands and knees begging for oil for their um for their for their uh residents that need heating oil in the uh in the winter time.
Uh when Bush was in China and he was standing next to President Wu, uh, he took questions from hostile Chinese students.
Now you have to ask yourself, in China, could this woman talk to who?
No, but President Bush goes over there and hostile Chinese students, anybody else can ask him questions about anything he wants.
He stood there, he took the questions.
But over in China, those people probably don't get the chance to talk to who.
And certainly this uh this this Falloon Gong woman uh would not get the chance to uh to talk to who.
So anyway, the summit is ongoing.
It's not what who wanted it to be, and if they're all upset about it, well it's what happens in this country.
But get ready for the rest of the news today because the media is just gonna be all over this now, the whole thing was ruined, and can't Bush do anything right?
And what is that well, here we had a chance to make peace with these big biggest country, oh no, no, no.
Hand wringing, and uh once again being very critical of uh of Bush and there will be speculation because they they've you've seen it in the media already.
Why they're so good at controlling their own events.
They're so good.
How did they let this happen?
How come it took the Secret Service so long to get there to escort this woman out?
It took them two and a half minutes for anybody to show up, and they weren't that far away.
She was she was so I know she was with the press, and there's uh there's a little wall, an invisible wall goes, you can't kick the press out of there.
She's assumed, I guess they're assuming she's credentialed.
You gotta be there for some reason.
But it did take a while for them to uh get over there, which I think the woman had two and a half minutes or so of shouting things.
Um she started about 56 seconds or one minute into the uh into the speech.
You know, I have a little blockbuster here that I'm holding in my uh in my uh formerly uh niche Wait a minute.
Charles in Pittsburgh.
Uh welcome to the program.
Nice to have you with us, sir.
Rush, long time listener.
Nice to speak to you.
Thank you, sir.
Uh just wanted to bring up you were talking about Chinese human rights violations, and uh we do we do acknowledge that thing documented by the Chinese, definitely.
This is something that the world recognizes.
Chinese do kill political you know opposition, correct.
Did we lose him?
Are you a lot?
No, Charles, uh yeah, are you on a cell phone?
Yes, I am, unfortunately.
Western PA.
Okay, so you're so you you what you said is that something the world recognizes Chinese do kill political prisoners.
Yeah, we do recognize it, don't we?
We'd like to bring it up.
Um I think it's I think it should be something we address first before we even speak about, you know, China a great trading partner, don't we?
Shouldn't we address this as the world leader and you know human rights here?
We life, liberty, all that.
What is your point?
My point is it just seems like a new move's point to bring up Chinese human rights violations when our they're our great trade partner.
It's not really the boring issue.
It doesn't really matter.
They can torture as many people as they want.
We'll still trade with them.
So to bring it up, I don't think you know.
No, no, no, of course that's look.
Okay, I understand where you're going with this.
Um this was in fact one of the when when China wanted most favored nation trade status some years ago, there were people who opposed granting them most favored nation trade status uh uh because of the very things you bring up.
They're human rights violations.
Uh but they lost out because uh the economic concerns, of course, override this.
And here's the the answer that is given by people uh who who support ignoring the human rights violation uh vi violations is that um Well, yes, they do, but we're only going to make inroads if we trade economically with that country and thereby slowly infuse capitalism and the things that accompany capitalism like freedom.
We're not going to get the Chinese to stop human rights violations simply by pointing a finger at them and saying you better stop that, or we're not going to trade with you.
Open the lines of communication, open the doors, and eventually that's the theory.
And you could say, well, long shot.
Maybe it had some success in the uh in the Soviet Union.
And I, you know, China's a big country, folks.
I wasn't joking when they got a billion people and they can't feed them all.
And it's very tough to control them all.
But they, I mean, that's there's that they'd be happy with a lot fewer.
Uh they've got an abortion policy that takes care of that.
They've got uh well, they would.
They've got a they've got that's a huge geographic area they're trying to control over there, and and and uh there's their pockets of protest that pop up.
You all remember uh Tiananmen Square.
So uh doesn't matter that they uh engage in all that in terms of our economic activity because we view our economic activity as one of the many uh techniques or weapons that we will use to eventually end that kind of oppressive behavior.
At least that is the whole quick timeout.
We'll be back with more after this.
We went back to the archives, ladies and gentlemen.
We may uh say may have found a reason why, if it happened this way, George W. Bush allowed the protester or his administration, somebody who allow the protesters to get close enough to embarrass uh President Who of China.
You remember this back uh it it was November 20th of last year, and the president was in China and he had a meeting over there.
And he was uh in a press conference in this ornate ChICOM chamber.
And after six questions, he just decided to leave.
When he got to the door, the door was locked.
He couldn't get out of the place.
And he has so he had to stood there, stand there and make you know funny faces like uh who I meant on the joke, I got he tried to leave the room and it was locked.
Hugh, who locked him in.
I mean, who what what kind of security breach is this?
You're in a room and you want to leave, and who locks the door?
After answering just six questions from a group of U.S. reporters, the president strode away heading towards the door.
He tugged at both handles on the double doors before admitting I was trying to escape.
Obviously, it didn't work.
Bush was in China in his uh latest stop of the East Asia Tour.
The president called a news conference with uh reporters at his hotel.
His earlier meeting with uh President Who did not permit media questions.
So you never know.
Try this, folks.
This is uh the Christian science monitor, apparently concerned that fighting in Iraq could spill over into uh Saudi Arabia.
The Saudis are considering a major fortification of its 500-mile border with Iraq.
The uh government thinking of building an electrified fence along the whole border with Iraq in case things go really badly there and it starts falling apart, said a security advisor to the Saudi government who spoke on condition of anonymity because the government uh has not made any official announcement of such plans.
It has, however, admitted that it is looking at strengthening its border defenses.
The uh border with Iraq lies mostly in barren desert.
A twenty-foot-tall sand berm that runs its entire length, provides the first line of defense.
Parallel to that is a second berm and a tall fence topped with barbed wire with a six-mile-wide no man's land separating the two barriers, but they're thinking of even fortifying that.
Why, if they can have a fence, if Saudi Arabia can have a fence, why can't we have a fence?
We could do a fence.
This may not be a bad idea because the fence might keep some of the terrorists out of Iraq, as well as keep them out of Saudi Arabia.
Robert Novak, this is a bit of a blockbuster.
Robert Novak said uh yesterday that the independent counsel Patrick Fitzgerald knows who it is who outed a CIA agent to the Chicago Sun-Times columnist, but he hasn't acted on the information because Novak's source committed no crime.
Novak also hinted that he personally didn't rely on the Fifth Amendment, which protects people from testifying against themselves in Fitzgerald's investigation.
Fitzgerald investigating who leaked CIA operative Valerie Plame.
No, he's not doing that anymore.
He gave up on that.
He's not investigating who leaked Valerie Plame's name to anybody.
Novak acknowledged that the swirl of speculation regarding his actions and the investigation of the leak, uh, including whether he testified before a grand jury, revealed his source.
Novak acknowledged that he revealed his source to Fitzgerald, or at least made some sort of plea bargain by fingering somebody else so he could stay out of jail.
But he called the speculation ridiculous, declining to reveal his actions.
I'm not going to tell you, because it's none of your damn business, he said.
Still, he did say if I had gone before a grand jury and taken the fifth, Mr. Fitzgerald would have that on the street in about two minutes.
Novak also claimed investigators know who leaked the information, although he didn't say how they know.
The question is, does Mr. Fitzgerald know who the source was?
Novak asked asked.
Of course.
He's known for years who this first source is.
If he knows the source, why didn't he indict him?
Because no crime was committed.
Now, to me, this is uh this is where did this appear.
Uh I'm not sure.
Yep.
Once again, a website prints out without identifying where it's from.
Uh but he was at a uh uh I guess he was at a uh hands, I guess is Washington when this happened.
He was a discussion panel, the University of Illinois at Chicago, and I guess this is from the from a Chicago newspaper, but uh it's the Chicago Sun Times.
You know, Dave Newbart as the staff reporter for the uh Chicago Sun Times.
And it's just um so Fitzgerald knows who the original leaker is, and yet we went through this and still go through this dog and pony show.
Mike in Jackson, Mississippi, welcome to the program, sir.
Great to have you with us.
Hello, Rush.
How are you today?
Fine, sir, never better.
All righty.
Um, I'm kind of curious about something.
Oh, why is it okay with the government, but especially with the media, uh, for our country to do business with uh other countries that are civil rights violators and human rights violators.
Uh, excuse me, I'm just a little nervous here.
But uh, when an individual goes to another country, say Central America or South America to uh do business, and they end up doing business with uh someone that say owns a sweatshop as they're classified, these people are bad people.
But yet the government, it's okay for us to do business with uh countries that have slave labor, like China.
That's exactly right, sir.
It's a great point.
It's an excellent question, and I can only surmise, I can only I can only only guess that that this is the governments have their own standards for themselves, different laws for individuals.
We have foreign policy, government to government, and we have objectives, and we have uh dialogue and we have policy, and we have uh goals, um, and uh we try to tame some of these nations that are our enemies on the basis that if we can somehow establish open relations with them in time,
the positive influences of our country will rub off, uh, and the human rights violators uh uh will tame themselves, or the society that they're governing will tame them, and the the whole situation will improve.
I mean, that's one of the one of the stated objectives.
You can find evidence in the fact in the past that it's worked.
Uh, but when an individual goes down to slave labor and so forth, uh, then you get you get domestic politics involved, you get labor unions involved, which are very very, very tied to the Democratic Party and so forth.
Uh that gets the minimum wage movement.
Uh, but you can find contradictions like this all over the place because while you're not allowed to go down and do business with a country that basically uh has low wages, we still allow illegal immigrants to come into this country and be paid slave wages for the benefit of our business.
But you're not allowed to go down and benefit somebody else's country in the process because you're undermining your own.
Quick time out.
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Tell you what, if Novak's right and Pat Fitzgerald has known who leaked from the get-go here, then I'm right.
That Fitzgerald doesn't want his case to be over something as small as the something is perjury.
So he's going after the whole pre war intel as a crime.
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