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April 5, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 5, 2006, Wednesday, Hour #2
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You know, I'm just looking at a picture here of the federal agent fully armed storming the little house in Miami where little Elian Gonzalez is being held.
And I we we used to return Hispanics to their homes.
We used to do that.
We used to arm federal agents into innocent people's homes to get this innocent little kid.
Anyway, I'm glad to have you back, folks.
800-282-2882 if you want to be on the program.
As always, we're thrilled to have Tom DeLay with us, who has shuffled the deck considerably with his resignation announcement this week.
Congressman, thanks for being part of the program today.
As always, great to have you with us.
Well, thank you, Rush.
You know, you're partly responsible for any successes that I've had, so you have to take some of the heat, too.
Well, I'll join you in it.
It's the way of the world.
Look, the first thing I want to ask you about is we had some calls yesterday, and I don't know if you heard about this.
I know you've been busy, but there are some people, and I chastised them, but there are some people that called the program, and it's this anecdotal.
I don't know how many this represents, but you maybe have heard this yourself, that, well, you gave up.
Well, you quit.
But it was a phony indictment, and it's obviously political, but you didn't hang in there and fight it.
The Democrats always hang in there and fight it.
And we just keep rolling up and giving it away to them.
And I tried to explain people that I had a different take on it, but why don't you address that first off the bat here?
Well, it may appear that way, Rush, but I think I'm winning.
First of all, they had me tied down in a reelection campaign to where I had to focus completely on getting reelected.
I think I could have won the seat, but it struck me that I can fight in another arena and still hold the seat for the Republicans.
I am now, I feel totally liberated.
I'm going to be out there talking about the conservative agenda.
I'm going to be working very hard to get rid of the federal tax code and replace it with the fair tax.
I want to continue my effort to hold the judiciary accountable.
There's just a lot of great things I could be speaking out about, and I could not do that.
I'm going to work very hard to elect Republicans to carry the conservative cause.
Well, but you could have done that had you won and been re-elected, but let's get to that.
No, even if I'd have been re-elected, there was no assurance that I could go back into leadership and use my talents where they could be used to use more.
I wasn't going to step back into leadership.
So now I'm free to go around the country and organize people and get them motivated, and let's keep beating Democrats.
And believe me, I'm going to be talking about the Democrats' strategy of criminalizing politics.
I'm going to be talking about the fact that they have no agenda.
All they have is using and abusing our judiciary for their political gain.
And I can point to Ronnie Earle in the People's Republic of Travis County, Texas.
And I can be an example, and I am an example, of the way they play politics, which is dirty, in the gutter.
Well, that's because they can't win in the arena of ideas.
They have to destroy their opponents or discredit them because they can't beat them in the arena of ideas anymore.
They won't even be honest about the things they believe.
They have no agenda to speak of.
Well, they do, but they won't be honest about it.
But I want to go back to one thing about your resignation because I mentioned this yesterday, but a lot of people don't know it.
You have spoken since your announcement that your objective is to maintain a Republican majority.
And people have, you know, there's some people that believe that and some don't.
I think people need to know, in forming their opinion about this, that during the time of Texas redistricting, you carved up your own district and made it less secure for yourself, less Republican, in order for there to be more Republican seats electable in the state of Texas.
That's correct.
And that's why you're in this close race because your district isn't what it used to be.
Yeah, I went from about a 65% district to a 54% Republican district thinking that I could carry and appeal to Democrats and independents like George W. Bush does in my district.
He gets 65% of the vote.
But obviously, when you're being pummeled every day by the national media and your local paper and things develop like they develop for me, that it takes a toll.
Well, it wasn't, I think there was a movement in Hollywood to raise money for your Democrat opponent in this district that would have cost you a lot of money.
And I think you said that it would require a lot of resources to be brought into your one district and it would have harmed others.
So this is, as you say, this is really a move designed to take you off the front page and out of the bullseye off your back and give the Democrats nothing to shoot at where it comes to Tom DeLay.
And put me in a different arena.
Look, the Democrats went after me, and I'm not bragging.
It's just true, because I was effective.
And how was I effective?
I was effective because we built the largest, strongest political coalition in my lifetime right here in Washington, D.C. and around the country.
Well, you know, can I interrupt you?
You keep inspiring me to make comments here.
The Democrats held the House for 40 years.
We've held the House, you guys, 1994, 95 when you were sworn in.
It's basically been 11 or 12 years that the Republicans have held the majority, and everybody's dumping on you with the hammer and your tactics, and how did you do this?
And nobody wants to go back and look at some of the tactics the Democrats used to hold on to the House for 40 years, shutting you guys out of meetings and so forth to clear one-way street.
Well, they hate our tactics because they're winning and they're effective.
You know, they hate the fact that we had the K-Street strategy because we came into a town as a Republican majority with all the lobbyists in town, Democrats, because they were hired because their buddies were in charge before we came in.
And we insisted that they start hiring Republicans.
And we went from when we first came in in 1995, most of the campaign contributions, 70% in this town, were going to Democrats, 30% to Republicans.
You know what it is today?
60% Republican, 40% Democrat.
Why?
Because we built this huge political coalition, and now you've got all these leftist groups, the common cause, Democracy 21, bemoaning the fact that we actually built a conservative coalition.
They hate it because this place doesn't work because Tom DeLay goes out and introduces a bill and it becomes law.
It takes a huge national effort to make these things happen.
And it also takes money to make these things happen.
Yeah, and well, when you did this, you shook it up because they didn't think that something like what you did was possible.
That's right.
They think power is an entitlement of their own, and that it's almost a birthright.
You've come in, you and the whole class of 1994 that shook everything up.
The liberal class.
They still haven't gotten over it, though.
Their whole movement is fracturing toward the kook lunatic fringe and making them their base.
I had a question asked me this morning.
Why is there so much acrimony in Washington?
Why can't you just, the Rodney King, just get along?
Well, we got along when the Republicans had a minority mindset and were just happy to get a few crumbs off the Democrat majority's table.
And everything was wonderful, and we all got along as long as the Democrats were in power and doing what they do best, raise taxes, bigger government, and all that.
When we took over, the day that we took over, all of that stopped because the Democrats had lost power, which is all that they lived for.
And they have fought us every step of the way on everything that we've done.
And they've done it as evidence in my case, in a gutter-type politics.
They are still in denial that these Neanderthals actually gained the majority and are actually doing what they promised the American people they'd do.
And the headline in the Washington Post, I think there are many stories on you today in the newspapers, but the one here at the top of my stack, The Washington Post, delay departing on his own terms.
And Congressman, I think that is the core of what infuriates them today.
Yesterday, they were feeling very powerful.
Democrats have gotten themselves in circumstances now where being emotionally satisfied substitutes for victory for them.
Paul Hackett loses by four points and they throw parties thinking they had a moral victory.
They lost.
Here, you're going out on your own terms.
They were hoping to have you around with a bullseye front and back of your shirt to kick you around and make you the face of this culture of corruption or whatever other sloganeering they wanted to use.
You took it away from them, and it took them a day to realize, wait a minute, this is not good for us.
Well, I hope they think that because it's not.
I'm going to be out there doing what I do best, and that's the conservative cause and electing conservative Republicans.
Well, hang on just a second.
We've got to break.
There's some other things about you in the news, Cynthia McKinney, and you've also been, well, that's important.
And you've been critical of the fact that there's no agenda on the House side, the Republican side of the House.
I want to talk to you about that right after.
Can you hang on for a break?
Sure, I can.
Great.
Well, right back after this, folks.
Stay with us.
And we are back on the Rush Lindbaugh program at EIB Network with Congressman Tom DeLay.
All right.
Washington Times story today.
Headline says it all.
House GOP lacks agenda, Delay says.
They quote you as saying, we don't have an agreed agenda.
Breaking up our leadership has taken its toll.
What's that pretend?
Well, I think he misunderstood what I was saying.
What I was saying was the Democrats knew what they were doing.
If you take the leader, the majority leader out, that so disrupts the leadership.
It takes time, logistic time, just to put it all back together.
By the way, you have a great line in this story.
The only reason I was indicted was the stupid rule that allows the Democrats to pick the Republican leadership.
That is a great line because the Republicans came up with this rule trying to please everybody.
If any of our leaders ever get indicted, they'll step out of the leadership position.
Democrats have no such rule, right?
That's correct.
They don't have to do it.
Yeah.
So all they have to do is convince Ronnie Earle to do what he did, and you're out.
Yeah, and Ronnie Earle has done it many times before.
He doesn't care about winning a case or that.
He abuses his office to play politics.
Okay, so you're not saying in this story that there's nobody in the House that can put together an agenda and lead it.
No, no, no, no.
I'm saying is, just take the situation where we had to go spend, what, three or four weeks through a leadership race.
That takes time out of putting the actual agenda for the year together.
Poor old John Boehner, when he got elected majority leader, he had to put together a staff of 20 people.
He had to go out and hire 20 people.
And obviously, he wants to hire good people.
That takes time.
And then those people have to get comfortable in what their assignments and responsibilities are.
That takes time.
So we have been kicked off a track.
And I'm not criticizing the leadership for it.
It's just what happens when in the middle of a Congress you disrupt the leadership.
I understand all that.
But to those of us out here in the Red States, outside the Beltway, it seems that there's been a loss of discipline in both the House and the Senate, mostly in the Senate, but there's some in the House, too, on the conservative side.
People, I know you've got some moderate Republicans in the House, but it's largely conservative, and they campaign on conservative issues and the conservative agenda.
And somehow they get to Washington, and after a number of years, they forget that.
They start moderating a little bit so as not to offend the media there, not to offend the Democrats or whatever.
And it seems like the whole conservative agenda gets watered down.
And so when you say that they need to take some time to put together an agenda, put together some people, those of us out here are simply saying it's just conservatism.
It works every time it's tried.
Just go back to that.
Well, that's just it.
We have an agenda.
It's in place all along.
It's limited government, lower taxes, tort reform, protect the people from the judiciary, protect the family from the culture wars.
That's our vision in our philosophy and our worldview.
Actually, putting that in bills and having it work through the committees and bringing it to the floor is very difficult.
And I've got to tell you, Rush, I am very proud of what we did last year.
I set an agenda the first year as majority leader.
We had the most productive legislative year that we've had.
I mean, we put three tort reform bills on the president's desk.
We've been working on that for 10 years.
Finally got three through the Senate.
We did an energy bill that's a long, far-reaching bill that moves us more to independence on energy, not just go out and find oil and gas, but nuclear energy and all kinds of other things.
I mean, we actually cut spending for the first time since Ronald Reagan.
We actually took a look for the first time since 1997 at all entitlement programs and reformed them.
Now, granted, we only saved $40 billion, but it was the first time that we took a look at every entitlement program, which is something I wanted to start and do every year, just like we do all other programs.
Yeah, but you created a new one.
I know the president wanted it, and I know you carried his water up there.
The Medicare bill?
Yeah, it had to.
Well, I just disagree with you.
I am very proud of that.
We took Republican philosophy to the welfare state.
We introduced competition, choice, personal responsibility, new health care methods that were not covered by Medicare.
I mean, we are going to save money by, you know, the old Medicare system would pay $40,000 to amputate your feet because you are diabetic, but wouldn't pay $100 a month for glucophage to save your feet and keep you out of the hospital.
That is Republican philosophy applied to welfare state program.
If we had not done that to welfare reform, we would have never had welfare reform.
And believe me, we spent more money getting welfare reform than we were paying.
Well, maybe that's why the recipients don't like it because it is conservatism in a welfare state program because all right.
Time's dwindling.
Two things.
I need to ask you your opinion of this out-of-control immigration debate that's going on right now.
Well, that's another thing we did last year.
We passed a strong border security bill and an enforcement bill.
And that's what needs to be done right now.
The American people don't believe the federal government are going to protect our borders and enforce the law before you do anything else in immigration reform.
And I believe that.
And so I had a strategy that we would build a virtual wall along the Mexican border, that we would get rid of this catch-and-release philosophy and go to catch-and-remove philosophy, that we would start using real verifiable IDs so the employer knows that he's hiring an illegal or not, and then enforce the law against employers.
And we would dry up some of the jobs that attracts people, especially from Mexico, to come over here and work.
That kind of pressure would allow you to look at and think about a guest worker program later.
But what do you think about the debate?
I know that you feel proud of what you did, but what's going on right now is above and beyond that.
What do you think of the general overall debate and its focus?
I've got about a minute and a half here for this answer.
We'll hold you to the next break because I still want to get to Cynthia McKinney.
Okay, well, I think what the Senate is doing came out of the Judiciary Committee is awful.
The McCain-Kennedy bill is just undermines the rule of law.
It undermines our ability to protect our sovereignty.
It will encourage more illegal immigration rather than discourage illegal immigration.
That's the Senate's debate.
The House is standing firm on doing border security and protecting and enforcing the law against what the Senate is doing.
So you expect those two bills to be reconciled when they go to conference?
Well, I'm not in leadership anymore, but I'm suggesting to the leadership don't go to conference with a bill like that coming out of the Senate until we have debated and passed an immigration reform bill out of the House, forcing the Senate to get rid of all this McCain-Kennedy stuff and focus on border security and enforcement of the law.
That's what needs to be done first.
And if there is no conference and there's no bill, then we just have a bunch of pontificating going on.
It's election year, and you've got a bunch of people pandering for the fight.
You take it to the election.
Let the American people decide.
Exactly.
Okay, hang on.
We've got a little break here at the bottom of the hour, and we'll get into a couple more things with Congressman Tom DeLay.
Specifically, he says he's going to file an ethics complaint against Cynthia McKinney.
I'll ask him about that when we come back right after this.
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We welcome back Tom DeLay, Congressman Tom DeLay, who announced his resignation.
This week, before we get onto the Cynthia McKinney, I meant to ask you this in the previous segment when you were talking about spending, but you have a chance here to tell people how the House works, particularly on the Republican side.
You're a conservative, and you said that you're very proud of how spending was held, and you made a real dent in it for the first time since 1997.
It was only $40 billion.
And even at that, there were other conservatives in the House who were not happy with it.
Mike Pence is one.
So you're a conservative.
He's a conservative.
And yet there are divergent views on how you define success.
Is there a, I don't want to say a disunity problem in the House, but how does that play out as you, Hammer, the leader, go day to day trying to get people aligned and vote together on these issues?
Well, I'm glad you brought it up because I hope people can understand that the Republican Conference and the House of Representatives have divergent views.
Our most liberal member is more conservative than the most conservative Democrat.
So the spectrum is not that wide, but they do have divergent views.
And when I was whip, I instituted what was called grow the vote.
And I knew at one time over the 11 years, we got down to a five-vote margin.
So if six Republicans were against what we were doing, we would lose.
So we were almost forced to work together, work out our differences, and come up with something that would get us 218 votes.
That's very difficult to do.
It takes a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of building relationships and trust with each other.
But we were able to hold it together and get as much of the conservative agenda that we could get with the votes that we had available.
Sure, if I were king, the world would look a lot different today than it was trying to work with 232 members of the House of Representatives.
But this whole notion that we're not interested in spending, or somebody said we're spending like drunken sailors, it's just not true.
If you look at the trend lines of when we first took over, particularly spending as a percent of gross national product, we have done a lot, not only to hold down spending, the opposite is also true.
If the Democrats were in control, spending would be three times what it is right now.
If the Democrats were in control, I mean, we in the House have passed tax cuts every year we've been in session.
The opposite of that is it's been 12 years since the federal government has raised taxes.
Why?
Because of the Republican majority.
We didn't come here to raise taxes.
We cut taxes every year.
And so my point is, is that, sure, we've got out of 232 members, we've probably got 30 or 40 that would be classified as moderate.
And there are some conservatives that would like to change the world overnight.
But I'm not being pragmatic.
I'm just understanding what the votes are available and what you can do with the votes that you have available.
And I think we've done some pretty amazing things on very small margins.
When I came into Congress in 1985, there was only 185 members of the Republican Conference, 185.
In other words, the Democrats were running around with almost 100-vote margin.
The best we've been is right now with a 15-vote margin in the House.
And we do pretty amazing things.
So you're saying you can only get what you can get.
Let's also not leave the president out of this equation.
The president, you know, he submits a budget every year, and he hasn't vetoed any of the spending bills.
And you, as the leader in the House, I mean, you're on the Republican side.
You're the one who carries the president's water, correct?
But he hasn't vetoed it because we have the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, and we agree on what the number.
Actually, the President has provided the discipline against the Senate.
I know my Senate colleagues won't like this, but they love spending money.
And the House and the President have held numbers down.
It's been the president providing the discipline, particularly over the last three years that I was majority leader, where he started cutting the rate of growth three years ago.
We actually reduced the rate of growth.
Two years ago, we actually froze spending, and last year we actually cut spending.
And the president provided that discipline.
Because we're not going to send him a bill to veto.
We're going to send him a bill he'll agree to sign.
That's why he hadn't vetoed any bills.
All right, Cynthia McKinney.
You said on Fox today that she's racist and has pretty much used racism as her leverage the whole time she's been in the House.
You also say that you are going to file an ethics complaint against her.
Tell us about these things.
Well, first of all, I have to tell you that I have the utmost respect for the United States Capitol Police.
These guys are under tremendous pressure to protect precious property and precious lives on Capitol Hill, and they've done an outstanding job, and they're incredibly courageous.
Every time on 9-11, when the planes were headed towards the Capitol and towards the Pentagon, you know what the Capitol Police did?
They stayed in the building.
The rest of us ran.
These people have incredible courage.
I lost one.
I had a Capitol policeman, two of them, one of them killed in my office and one of them killed outside of my office, protecting me and my young staff.
When was this?
When was this?
This is about eight years ago.
A shooter came through, killed an officer at the door, ran into my office and killed John Gibson, who's very close to me, one of my security officers in my office.
You were there?
I was there.
And he did it in such a way, it was unbelievable.
He let the shooter run past him.
He was in plain clothes and knew and had to yell at him to turn him around because he knew if he shot him in the back, he could shoot the young people sitting at the desk in front of him.
And he took bullets point blank and it killed him.
These are people.
In fact, it took courage to confront McKinney.
He didn't know that she wasn't a suicide bomber.
He didn't know she didn't have a congressional pen on.
She had changed her hairstyle.
He didn't immediately recognize her.
And yet, he showed the courage to go confront her and bring her back to the control point, and she punched him.
And then explains afterwards that it was because he was white that he stopped her.
That's incredibly outrageous.
And what I said was, if somebody else does not file an ethics charge, I will.
Well, you think anybody will, or will it be up to you?
I would hope so.
What she did brings embarrassment to the House.
That in itself is a violation of House rules.
Well, you know, it was just even the Atlanta newspaper editorializing on this yesterday said that it's just stupid.
All she would have had to have done was to stop, tell the officer who she was, apologize not wearing the pen, and go back through the metal detector, and she would have had a friend for life.
They had to make a big scene out of it.
And I'll tell you what, you know, this is the thing.
The Democrats are up in arms today at her over this because they thought they had you on the front page and your resignation.
They thought they killed you off.
And now here comes Cynthia McKinney, and she's taking all the oxygen out of your room, and she's become the focal point.
They can't go forward with culture of corruption with her out there now.
And I think this would be a great move to file an ethics complaint against her, and especially if you're the one to do it, because that sends a signal that you haven't been defeated, and you're not going to take any of this lying down, and you're still Tom DeLay, and you're still who you are, and you're pursuing what you believe in.
Well, you know, I am going to defend these Capitol Police, and I'm going to let the American people know that they are incredibly professional and courageous, and I'm just not going to allow this to happen.
You said on Fox today that she is racist and she has a, if this quote is accurate, she has a long history of racism.
Everything is racism with her.
It's incredible arrogance.
That's entirely true.
Her whole career is ⁇ she bases everything on race.
Everything that's bad that has ever happened to her is because she's black.
She's anti-Semitic.
That's just who she is.
Well, you know, this is, I don't want to say courageous, and I'm not trying to butter you up here, but these are charges that you just don't hear going in this direction.
You normally have the racism charge being made against people like you.
Well, she is a racist.
All right, got to ask you one more question before we go, and that is the press, some members of the media having a little argument over who broke the story of your resignation.
Chris Matthews thinks he broke it.
Time magazine's Mike Allen thinks he broke it.
Who did you tell first?
Mike Allen.
Told Mike Allen first.
Yes, sir.
All right.
He's been very fair to me.
This is part of me trying to change the culture in Washington, D.C. and change the culture of the press.
Reward your friends, and you know the rest of it.
Mike Allen has been very good to me, not good to me, he's been very fair with me.
And I wanted somebody that would be recognized by the mainstream media as being a fair person to get the story and get it out there, and I gave it to him.
He came to my house Monday afternoon and interviewed me, and he was writing the story.
I made the mistake of calling Chris Matthews before he had filed the story, and Chris immediately ran to the press.
But it was all about the same time.
What about the president?
When did you inform him?
Monday afternoon.
What was his reaction?
He was a little sad.
Did he try to talk you out of it?
No, he was very gracious.
He knew that I had been going through a process of trying to decide what I was supposed to do.
And so he honored that process and honored my decision, but was very gracious and thanked me for all the work I have done.
So when will your last day be?
Have you figured it out?
No, I haven't thought about any of that.
We're going to be on Easter break.
I'm going to decide that.
There's a few things I want to clean up for my district before I leave that I had started this year, and it'll be dictated by the congressional schedule.
But you are going to retire or resign in enough time for there to be a special election so that a residential.
No, there won't be a special election.
You don't.
Texas has a law that there's only two dates that you can have a special election, November and May.
And this weekend, the deadline for the May special election will have passed.
So it's going to be an open seat election in November.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Well, look, next time we chat, you'll know more about what you're going to do post your resignation.
And I'd be interested to hear that, how you're going to carry the water outside Congress and try to accomplish your objectives.
We'll look forward to that.
Well, thank you.
And I hope you and I can talk privately about that because I'd love to have your advice.
I would love to talk anytime.
Let's go play golf, you know.
I got time for that.
Let's go fly to St. Andrews.
I'll pay.
We'll stay in the old course hotel.
I love it.
No, you're not paying.
We're going to ram it down their throats.
Thanks.
Thanks for your time.
That's Congressman Tom DeLay on the phone with us in Washington.
A quick timeout, and we'll be right back after this.
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Here's Tom in Waldorf, Maryland.
Tom, great to have you on the program, sir.
Hi, Rush.
I'll keep it very brief.
I just want to make the comment.
You know, your show is different out there because you very rarely do interviews.
It's mostly just all rush all the time.
That's because I'm the expert, and I don't need to bring other people in and let them think they are.
And I don't need to, you know, I don't need to subordinate myself to other.
I'm the expert, but I appreciate your observation on that.
But if I might say, when you do do interviews on those rare occasions, they are absolutely the most first-rate on the air.
It's like the best of both worlds.
So I just want to pass that along.
Oh, no, no.
Really appreciated the interview.
It was very cool.
I'm blushing.
Oh, that's awful.
I appreciate your saying that.
That's really very nice of you.
I thank you so much.
Well, thank you.
You bet.
Let's see.
We got to get Mike up there.
Mike's been holding on here for the whole hour.
He didn't want to surrender the line.
Mike in San Diego, I'm glad you waited.
I appreciate your patience.
Thanks much.
Well, thank you.
Got an article here from the Washington Times National Weekly Edition for September 19 through 25th, 2005.
Talks about illegal aliens being arrested in nuclear power plants in Omaha, Iowa, and Florida.
I have the press release that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Division of Homeland Security put out, and you're exactly right.
And, you know, I didn't know this until you called and alerted it to us.
And then we were able to go to the ICE website and get the details.
ICE agents arrest illegal aliens at Omaha nuclear plant.
Arrests are latest in a series of illegal alien apprehensions at nuclear facilities in recent months.
And I'm sure that even though this came as a shock to me, I can't believe that such concerned senators as Senator Schumer, who, of course, along with Republicans, led the port deal charge to make sure that we weren't going to have Arabs running the terminals at those ports because we just couldn't have that.
But now we've got some arrests last year of illegal aliens working at nuclear power plants.
Now, I don't know about you, but are nuclear power plant jobs, are they now part of the category, jobs the American people won't do?
I appreciate your heads up on this, Mike.
And when I have more time, we'll delve into some of the details.
Quick time out now.
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Just sit tight.
Okay, here are the details on the arrests of illegal aliens at nuclear plants.
March 18, 2005, ICE agents arrested an illegal alien performing contract pipe insulation work at the Dwayne Arnold Energy Center nuclear power plant in Palo, Iowa.
During a two-week period in March 2005, ICE agents arrested six illegal aliens performing contract maintenance work at the Crystal River nuclear power plant in Citrus, Florida.
All were employees of a specialty services company now cooperating in an ongoing ICE investigation.
One of the illegal aliens indicted on criminal charges of re-entering the country after deportation.
On November 7th, of 2004, ICE agents, get this, arrested 44 illegal aliens in the Marley Cooling Technologies Factory in Olathe, Kansas.
It's outside Kansas City, where cooling towers for nuclear plants are manufactured.
The illegal aliens had used fraudulent documents, had made false statements to gain employment at the facility.
Aliens placed into immigration removal proceedings.
Marley Cooling Technologies cooperated in the investigation.
Now, the press release that I have here from ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Division of Homeland Security, does not identify the country from which the illegal aliens in these three instances were from.
So, pretty serious stuff.
Quick timeout here, my friends.
Can't wait.
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