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March 31, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 31, 2006, Friday, Hour #3
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Yeah, uh have uh audio soundbite three standing by in order.
We'll go from there.
Greetings, folks.
Greetings, welcome back.
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Funny story here.
Where's this from?
This is um.
Well, it's the Sun News.
I don't know the LC Sun news.
I have no clue where this is from.
I don't know what the No, it's the uh it's funny.
I just don't, I'm sorry, I don't remember the website, but it's about a uh uh sixty-four-year-old matchmaker.
A controversial matchmaker.
His name is Ivan Thompson, the self-proclaimed cowboy Cupid.
Have you heard about this guy?
You're waiting to hear this.
If you mention this guy's name around the wrong women, you are bound to raise their hackles.
This is a weathered 64-year-old matchmaker.
He has his share of critics who decry him as a woman peddler, who takes advantage of disadvantaged Mexican women and has no respect for the gals in his own country.
This story, by the way, written by a woman.
Uh uh Amanda Husson, H-U-S-S-O-N.
But uh Ivan Thompson views himself as a businessman who saw a need and offered a service.
He says, I like putting two lonely people together.
The men are lonely, the women, well, some of them are lonely too.
For 17 years, Tom Thompson has operated his uh one-man wife finding business.
It's called Thompson and Associates.
He operates out of Columbus and Anthony, New Mexico.
Columbus what?
I wish I knew, I wish I could remember where this is from.
At any rate, doesn't matter.
For $3,000, what he does is take an eligible bachelor across the border into central Mexico, where he advertises on the radio and in a newspaper for potential partners.
Then he and his client wait in a hotel room for the phone to start ringing, and it always does.
Thompson introduces the men to the local ladies who respond, but then the customers are on their own.
He said he expects the men to follow up and develop a relationship with the women without his help.
Thompson said the idea came to him when he found himself divorced and lonely after 17 and a half years of marriage.
His first wife was an American woman with whom, although they spoke the same language, he had trouble communicating.
In his words, she spoke perfect English, and I never could understand her.
He was running a horse ranch in Anthony.
He took out a newspaper ad in the Mexican paper seeking a wife.
When he got 80 responses from young, attractive women, he realized he'd hit the jackpot.
And if it could work for him, it could work for other men too.
But his happy ending didn't last forever, though.
After nine years, his second wife got Americanized.
She wanted to be the boss of everything, he said, so they got a divorce.
Looking back on his relationship and the hundreds that he has helped create, Thompson said he feels he might not have had a realistic idea of what a Mexican housewife would be.
Well, I don't know.
I don't think I'm doing men as big a favor as I first thought, he said.
I don't think the Mexican women turned out to be what I thought they were.
The men who think these Mexican women are docile, scared little things must have been smoking their socks.
Now I think he hit the jackpot earlier in the article when he says they got Americanized.
Somehow, despite unrealistic expectations like a language barrier, cultural differences, and even an international border.
The majority of Thompson's matches remain successful.
He estimates that at least 25% of marriages he's helped along have ended in divorce.
According to a Census Bureau study, about 40% of first marriages in the U.S. end in divorce.
His rate is uh is much better.
The quirky business has drawn him into the national media spotlight.
He's been featured in regional newspapers.
He's made uh appearances on TV programs like Extra and a Current Affair, Academy Award nominated documentary filmmaker, uh Michelle O'Heyon heard Thompson being interviewed on NPR, was drawn to his story.
So you're gonna be hearing more and more about this guy, but his name is uh his name is uh Ivan Thompson.
He was Ivan Thompson.
He says he's now starting to get hate mails, is received more than a few angry letters about his matchmaking business, accusing him of exploiting the women he fixes up and enabling men to take advantage of women who might be less likely to report situations of abuse to the authorities.
Now, who do you think is out there making those assumptions?
This has to be the militant feminists who think all men are predators, and this is just an organization or a business set up by a guy to help men abuse women.
I mean, that's the natural thing that they f they first assume.
He said it's not responsible.
He's it's not his responsibility, rather, to make sure the men are safe to marry any more than it's the priest or Justice of the Peace's job to screen couples before getting married.
That being said, he doesn't just take every man that comes to him on the trip.
I don't want to introduce these women to bad guys or these these men to bad women.
I try to eliminate the horses' asses, and if I think somebody's bad, I'm not gonna take them.
He's getting hate mail.
And he actually says he likes it.
In his self-published book, Cowboy Cupid, Mail Order Brides, and Other Tales from the Desert Southwest, he thanks his detractors in the opening pages.
This is what he says.
This book is dedicated to the women's libers and the Rush Limbaugh feminazis who made a business like this possible.
Thanks.
I love you gals, the passage states.
That's what makes them mad.
He's got to find these guys have to go to a different country to uh find somebody decent to marry in their minds because American women just don't seem to fit the bill anymore.
Thank because he's just his version of saying how it is that too many women, and men too have been feminized in this country, and the men that refuse to be feminized are in indeed encountering those kinds of problems.
I hear about it every day out there.
Port deal news, ladies and gentlemen.
Bills that aim to improve the security of the nation's ports and other key infrastructure advanced in both the House and Senate yesterday, weeks after public uproar scuttled the Dubai port deal.
The Senate banking and housing urban affairs committee yesterday approved by a vote of twenty to nothing.
A bill that would reform the interagency panel charged with approving such foreign deals, forcing more thorough investigations and congressional involvement.
Richard Shelby, the committee chairman, Alabama Republican, said Congress and the American people require greater confidence in the process.
Now, under Mr. Shelby's bipartisan bill, deals would go through the 30-day review to determine whether they merit a longer investigation, and any CFIUS member could request more time to decide.
The 45-day investigation be required if a deal involves a foreign government-owned company and critical U.S. infrastructure such as ports.
That could affect national security.
Isn't it amazing how fast these guys can act on the port deal?
Twenty to nothing votes.
Get the news out every day of how much they're doing.
We ought to keep them American people informed on just how responsible we are.
We're going to make sure that we don't have any problems at our ports.
We're not going to make we're going to make sure that no United Arab Emirates, it's not going to happen again.
Not on our watch, folks.
We we heard you.
Still, still, not one person other than me has raised the red flag about George Mason University.
They have a campus in the United Arab Emirates.
You know.
You know how that could expose us, increase our vulnerability, make us even bigger targets.
And yet nobody says a thing.
Nobody cares.
Nobody but me.
Fact, George Mason, sentimental favorite now.
Final four this weekend.
Satellite campus in Dubai.
I know.
I know.
Who'd you say?
Oh, okay.
Have you seen Cynthia McKinney skipped her own press company?
I've got a I've got a story about Cynthia McKinney to stack here, and it looks to me like she's trying to look like Oprah.
Uh if it if it's uh if it's uh if it's a recent picture.
Uh so Cynthia McKinney skips uh skips her own press conference.
Uh well, probably because she tried to hide from the uh cops to issue the arrest warrant.
I mean, it'd be easy to find her if she shows up at the uh press conference.
George George in Detroit, welcome, sir, to the program.
Great to have you with us.
Infinite is Rush.
Thank you, sir.
I was uh curious to find out if the uh Pors deal has uh made enough uh of a stink to get its own update, uh kind of like the Feminazi or the Corbasms, and if not, uh what criteria would it take to uh reach that status?
Well, it's reached it.
It's there's no question that the port deal has uh uh achieved the height uh necessary to uh to become uh uh we threw it in a hopper being potential update.
But you know, the the program changes over the course of years, and and uh I just always followed my instincts.
And the um the I I as you know, most of the updates we do these days are retro.
Uh we go back to the archives, uh, and I fully expect them to surface, resurface, but it'll happen not when I force it to, it'll just happen because the creative juices and instincts say take it that way.
Uh in fact, this is interesting.
I've had uh might have been the same guy, a couple emails today on the listener comment line uh at the website.
Uh come on, you talk about the port deal enough, you've got to be an update theme out there for it.
There've got to be good music for it.
There probably is.
I just haven't haven't oriented myself in that direction where this is concerned.
But uh if I could find the right tune, find the right update theme, it would just irritate everybody on this, then I will uh I will officially proclaim uh the ports deal to have update status.
Stan in Chicago, your next on open line Friday.
Hi.
Rosh, hunker burn and ditto.
Thank you.
Uh I was uh joking with your call screener that it sounded like you were sucking up to those guys on 24 yesterday, but have they approached you with uh uh doing an episode or have you approached them for doing an episode?
No, uh here's what happened.
I'm you it sounded like I'm sucking up to the 24 guys.
It was the other way around.
They're sucking up to me to appear on this show.
Actually, you know what?
I think uh I think you should do it if they offered it to you.
Uh the ratings were.
Well, let me let me tell you what happened.
Let me I didn't I didn't discuss this, uh, didn't go to too much detail, but cigar dinner in New York on Tuesday night.
The 24 guys were our honored guests.
And I'm only kidding about them sucking up.
I was just I'm telling you the guardrails are pretty wide here today, folks, because I am running out of fumes.
If I get out of this show today still on the air, it will be a major triumph of professionalism.
So not judgment in good sense.
So what happened is this there are honored guests at the cigar dinner, and during the dinner, uh there's an auction.
We don't wait till after dinner because it'll go all night.
So we uh we the first thing we do, there's we always auction nine or ten bottles of wine, magnums or gerbombs of wine.
Uh and the rule is that if you buy it, you have to serve it to your table that night.
You don't get to take it home.
So I always buy the first bottle.
It's become a tradition.
It's not rigged.
I just bid what it takes to get it.
And that also sets the tone for the bottles that follow.
We raise a lot of money for for Prostate Cancer Foundation.
So during the course of the uh of the auction, we always get to Marvin's mystery box, Marvin Shankin, and it's a beautiful cigar humidor, but he won't tell you what's in it.
Won't tell you what's in it.
Well, they drop some hints along the way.
Like, for example, this year as last, there's there's a there's a winning ticket from some Las Vegas sports book for every NFL team to win the Super Bowl at current odds.
Like I got the box last year.
In fact, Michael Jordan and I both got the we we both we both wanted it so bad that Marvin said, if you guys will both buy it, I'll I'll put two boxes together, identical contents.
That's what he did.
So I and I don't know what the Steelers are.
I've got to turn my ticket in from last year's mystery box.
I know right what it is.
I keep it in the humidor at home.
So during the mystery box, this always happens.
Marvin approaches guests and says, Come on, ex throw something, because General Motors, throw in an escalade, throw it, and most of the time it happens.
So during the auction of the mystery box, Marvin looked at Joel Cerno.
Joel.
Throw in a walk-on roll.
Put it up for a hundred thousand bucks and put in a walk-on roll.
Well, by the time it was over, Joel had offered three walk-on rolls.
And the three walk-on rolls were purchased by me, Rudy Giuliani, and Marvin bought one for his daughter.
So on the flight down here on Wednesday afternoon, actually f Wednesday morning we were flying down here from New York.
And I told Joe, I said, Joel, you know, I was just contributing to the chair.
I don't care.
No, no, no.
I don't care to be on your show.
I didn't do it.
He said, No, no, I've already got great plans.
I've already been thinking about you and Rudy are going to be sinister funders of terrorism.
Now that won't happen, but this is this is the devious way his uh minds, but it's just a walk on roll.
I would never be offered anything other than that.
And I and I and nobody else would either.
I mean, that's not they these guys um they run a business.
McCain had a walk on roll this year, but unless you knew it was coming, you didn't see it.
I mean, it's he was just on there for a split second.
He was delivering papers to President What's his face.
Uh no, he was he was not an illegal alien.
Well, we don't know if he was illegal alien or not.
He was supposedly on the White House staff.
That's the next thing to happen.
You know, we're gonna end.
We're gonna we're gonna end up with a with an illegal alien in a White House staff somewhere in some congressional office or some Senate office.
You wait, it'll happen.
We've already had these guys be embarrassed by hiring illegals as nannies.
Zoe Baird.
Uh ring a ring a ring a bell.
So the uh I don't it'll be it'll happen when they shoot next season, because they've uh they've already they got three weeks to go.
Three about well, three or four weeks of shooting left, they said yesterday.
This season is already written.
So it'll happen in the uh in the in the next season.
But it'll be fun.
But it was all this is what it it's just a fun, fun night.
And uh Michael Milken is there, uh Cap Cure founder, well, Prostate Cancer Foundation he now calls it, is uh is his and he matches everything that's uh that's raised every year.
And it's like it was like one point two million he matched this year.
Here's uh here's Todd in Charleston, South Carolina.
Welcome, sir, to the program.
Nice to have you with us.
Well, Megadiddos, Rush, thank you very much.
You bet, my pleasure.
Thank you.
I I gotta I gotta disagree with you that the root cause of a lot of these guys going with the mail order bride is feminism.
I think in the United States of America, there are a lot of guys out there, and you know how tough marriages, Rush.
I mean, it's it's tough.
You gotta work at it.
It's it's hard work every day.
And there's a lot of guys who are copping out, and they're leaving their wives and their children, and they're running off, taking easy route, taking a mail order bride out of bone crunching crunching poverty at a foreign country, and this girl will do anything for the money she can get coming to America married to her the average guy.
So, okay, so 25% of these marriages may fail, and that may beat the national average, but who wouldn't stay in a marriage coming out of that kind of poverty?
And the ones that do leave finally figure out that they get their American rights, their American citizenship, and they realize that they don't have to hang around with this jerk.
So you're saying that these marriages are basic marriages are basically loveless, that their economic circumstances, and I think I hear what you're saying.
You're saying these guys are losers anyway, one way or the other.
They either can't stay married, don't know how, or they don't want to work hard enough at being a good mate.
So they went up, they go down and then they find something can't even speak the English, basically try to find a slave or or or a uh geisha type, and just marry because they're no challenge, and so they don't understand a language, they can't talk back to you, and they're basically just cowards and losers.
Is that what you're saying?
That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying it's a real shame that a guy who runs a business like that gets all the notorieties he's gonna get that you mentioned earlier.
You're gonna be kidding.
With as many people doing as many crazy things that he's he's putting people together, and most of his marriages last.
You just think that they're not legitimate because you think there's no love involved.
You think these poor Mexican women are marrying up.
I mean, they're the real definition of marrying up here, and they'll stick stick with these loser guys just for the money.
Well, I tell you, I got a good friend who's been in counseling for a couple of years now.
Uh ten years ago, he married a mail order bride out of Russia.
A year after she got here, she took uh took a lover, and uh, we just proved recently that that guy moved to three different cities when they moved.
Well, how women are a roll of dice no matter where you find them.
I mean, you find them you you know that are you married?
Yes, I am.
Well, you know, I uh Russia, China, Mexico, doesn't matter where you find them, it's all it's always gonna be a roll of dice.
Uh you know, it it might have been your buddy's fault that she's running around uh taking a lover after a year.
Hell, we don't know.
She she might she might have got yeah, and they can talk back too.
It's called a frying pan.
Bop bop bump.
By the way, folks, uh you know daylight saving time starts this weekend Saturday night.
Go to bed and move the clock up an hour.
I love daylight saving time.
They've extended it a month this year.
The new energy bill last year.
Daylight saving time normally ends the last week in October, but it's the last week in November this year that daylight saving time will end.
And that matters uh people like me, because you need all I need all sunlight I can get after work in the winter time to go out there and play golf.
And uh it doesn't save energy.
You won't need your furnace or heating oil on as uh uh because you turn it down when you sleep.
Most people go to bed, they turn the thermostat down because you're under the covers, betwixt and between the sheets, got the big throw on there, and most people are with somebody, and so you create a little warmth and a little heat.
And so you have it does it so you're you be able to keep the thermostat lower during the day to the sun's up longer the time you're awake and functioning supposedly keeping the day warmer, and so it th that's the that's the theory behind.
You know you you know the reason they don't do this year round is because the sun would come up so late in the morning in some parts of the country that uh our children uh would be going to school in the dark, making them think it's it's even they're even sleepier than they otherwise are.
Uh so it just it just can't be done.
These little crumb crunchers crossing the street there in the dark and waiting for the school bus to come along, and that's that's why they're taking a risk doing it through um through November.
Uh but don't forget that I'll remind you when November comes around.
Uh this is uh Monsour in Kansas City, Missouri.
Hi Monsour, thanks for waiting.
Thank you for taking my car rush.
Um I think an amnesty should be given, but it should be given to the employers for at least one year so they can clean up their uh their act and uh you know give them a chance to start hiring legal employees.
That's actually not a bad now.
That that that is one of the that that's one of the first sensible ideas I've heard about this.
Well, I have uh the uh the other part of it would be as far as the guest uh worker program is the same employers who are hiring the illegal aliens should give them some sort of affidavit that these folks can take back to their original uh their uh their home uh countries and apply for a guest worker program through the United States Embassy,
let's say Mexico and El Salvador or wherever, that way they can really do a background check to find out if these folks are uh Yeah, I I understand the problem is that that uh with with that that aspect that that's one of the so-called uh reality problems is that even if you grant the businesses a one-year amnesty to straighten their houses out, get them an order, you're still gonna be telling all these illegals they gotta leave.
Um and because if if if after one year of amnesty, they cannot legally be hired.
They have to go home.
They have to go some of them will, but we don't know how many won't, but but the the whole process then starts repeating itself because they go down there and they find out it's gonna take years and years and years to get in legally in the guest worker program, uh and then they stay down there because they're not gonna be able to be hired legally in the United States, and then what you're gonna have.
Nobody has thought of this.
Well, try try no, no, I'm gonna run this thought by you, Monsour.
What in one aspect of this?
Let's say that we do have I've heard numbers eleven to twelve million illegals.
I've heard all the way up to twenty.
Yes.
Whatever the range is, do you think it makes sense to say that because we have allowed these illegal immigrants into our country that we have maybe saved Mexico from a revolution?
Well, well, that that possibly that that that that may be, but the case the the problem here is that you know, like in my business in Kansas City.
What is your business, Monsieur?
Well, I I do rely on a lot of Hispanics and I used to uh w uh have a lot of illegal aliens working for me.
But uh true self uh audit, we got rid of all of them, and you know, with the help of Department of Homeland Security.
So this this crap that everybody tells you that this country is gonna go down the drain is invalid.
No, I know everybody knows that too.
This is just pe people people are uh uh exercising their own self-interest.
Well, the debate cheap labor, you want to keep cheap labor.
Well, exactly.
An employer is i i i is trying to uh circumvent the law by not paying taxes, and their business's strategy is to you know pay somebody seven fifty an hour and not knowing very well that person is not is not legal, and then they complain on boohoo uh that I can't find help.
Well, crap, of course you can't find help.
Because that's your plan.
And you know, they pay him cash and they pay him under the table, and it's just not right.
But you know, if if if you provide a guest worker program that if the same employees give give this this folks a letter and say, okay, if you come back, I have a job for you.
Then maybe they can get processed in Mexico City and they can come back and work and get the money and go back home as much as they want.
Just an idea.
You you I tell you you've um I I printed a story today uh from a blog.
Uh as soon as it loads, I'm gonna print it out to you.
I learned some things that it's it's called thir and by the way, Monsieur, why don't you keep your radio and listen to this called thirteen frequently asked questions about illegal immigration.
And one of the one of the in answering one of the thirteen questions, uh, the people that put this together provided information that I didn't know, and it will I I don't know, some of you may know it if if you don't, it uh it will shock you.
Um loading up there, but give it some well, let me recycle, see if I can.
See if I can remember it.
It's something like this.
What would uh it one one uh example involved uh the meat packing business in Nebraska, and I forget the other one.
The meat pack packing business in Nebraska what happened what was happening was that uh INS agents were tracking down, they had a system, they they developed a system to find all of the illegal immigrants that were being hired in the in the meat packing industry in in Nebraska.
And they they they did sweeps every two or three months, and after two or three of these sweeps, they had identified and found four thousand illegal immigrants, and they uh uh uh forced the uh meat packing uh companies in Nebraska to fire them.
And these the execs at the meat packing industry, various companies, called their congressmen, and the congressman called the INS, and the INS commissioner was told to resign and to go quietly, which he did.
And basically INS has been told by members of Congress to stand down and not enforce the law.
A law that Congress passed.
Oftentimes members of Congress, members of the Senate, are calling the INS on behalf of constituents to say, don't enforce this law.
There are a couple other examples of it too.
Um I'm having trouble having that website uh print out, but if I can if I can get that happen during the next break, I'll share it with you.
We got some audio sound bites since we're back on immigration as a subject.
Was grab number three.
This morning on CNN, reporter John King played a portion of his interview with New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg.
King said, How do you get somebody of the uh uh President McCain Kennedy persuasion at the table, somebody the Tom Tancrato Lou Dobbs persuasion who says no, that's amnesty.
They came into the country illegally, any status you give them is rewarding law breaking.
What do you say about this?
It may very well be rewarding law breaking, but let's get real.
I mean, you know, we don't live in a perfect world.
And um we don't, at least mayors don't have the luxury of antificating without any consequences for what they say.
My fundamental belief is you're not gonna deport twelve million people, guest worker programs and temporary things are ridiculous.
These people are gonna be here permanently.
Let's recognize it and get on with it.
Right, which is basically just make them legal and move on with it because we can't do anything about it where we are now.
Last night on CNN, a Situation Room at Wolf Blitzer talking to Senator McCain.
He said, we saw some dramatic pictures.
Thousands and thousands of people in Phoenix marching to oppose your colleague, Senator John Kyle, and his stance, which is very different than your stance.
I I take it you were with the protesters as opposed to being with Senator Kyle on this issue.
One of the things that's interesting about those protesters, uh, Wolf, is that so many of them, as you'll notice from the pictures, were young.
And that's because many of them parents and grandparents came here illegally.
They are citizens.
They have all the rights to a citizen because they were uh born here.
But they're very concerned about their parents or their grandparents being sent back to the country and place that they came from.
That's very disturbing to them, and when you look at it from their point of view, it's understandable.
It's interesting whose point of view he finds understandable now and then.
Uh your view is not.
The majority view of this country is not understandable, and we shouldn't.
But these kids who are out there flying the Mexican flag while trying to defend the rights of their parents, well, you gotta be able to understand that.
Be able to um to relate to it.
I'm telling you broken record time, sorry, but you know what this is?
You know, with the you look at the length of time involved here in the McCain Kennedy bill.
And I hope you heard the first hour of the program, or I gave you some shocking news about who is doing the reforming of ri of uh illegal immigration now and who started this whole mess back in 1965.
It's Senator Kennedy.
And he he was instrumental in moving a bill uh back in 65, and it'll be on the website when we update it this afternoon.
And it it he does all the things that he promises that will not happen, have happened in spades in droves.
And my point was if you're gonna fix a problem, you gotta identify what the problem is.
You're gonna reform it, you gotta be honest, okay.
What's the problem?
And then, if you're gonna reform it, you've got to figure out who screwed it up in the first place so they don't get a chance to have at it again.
Well, we're blowing it on both counts.
We're not looking at what happened in 65 or in 86, and we're ignoring the fact that the people involved in 65, basically Senator Kennedy, he's been in the Senate 44 years.
I know it seems longer, but it's only it's only been 44 years.
Senator Kennedy is not the guy to be leading reform, and yet that's who's partnered up with McCain on this bill.
And it's just, you know, the what the the fear they all have is that after ten years, all of these ten to eleven, twelve, whatever it is, million illegals, will have become citizens and will have registered to vote, and they see a giant voting block out there, and they're just afraid to offend them, to make them mad, and that's why there's no enforcement.
And that's why there won't be any enforcement on this.
You wait and see.
Back right after this.
Stay with us.
All right, that webpage finally loaded.
And I was able to print the relevant passage.
The uh uh webpage is a blog called Right Wing News.
And it's thirteen frequently asked questions about um illegal immigration.
It's question three.
So, if the American people oppose illegal immigration, why does Congress seem so reluctant to do anything about it?
Let me cut to the relevant paragraph provided by Mark Kricorian, who's a blogger.
In 1998, the border patrol noticed that the workforce picking onions in the Vidalia Onion Fields of Georgia appeared increasingly to be illegal, so they did some raids.
They arrested a few dozen illegal aliens and all the rest of them ran off.
So the farmers there were stuck with onions in the ground and no one to pull them out.
It was all their own fault.
They knew what they were doing, but nonetheless they were outraged.
They called their congressmen.
And by the end of the week, three of Georgia's congressmen and both senators, Republicans and Democrats, wrote a joint letter to the attorney general demanding that the immigration service stop enforcing the law.
This is 1998.
It was called the INS then.
Because they said the INS does not understand the needs of farmers.
Can't just go in there and run these people off that farm, you're gonna have onions and aren't picked.
That in ordinary English means let them pick the onions and then arrest them.
Preferably before we have to pay them.
Well, the INS got slopped uh slapped down and they stopped any enforcement.
So what they tried as an alternative to raids, I and S was something called Operation Vanguard, and they tried this in Nebraska.
It was sort of the first effort at something like this to see if it worked.
They didn't do raids anywhere.
All they did was subpoena personnel records.
And they didn't just pick one or two employers, they did all the meat packing plants in all of Nebraska, so that no one of them would be inconvenienced while the others benefited.
They took the personnel records back to the INS offices.
They checked the Social Security numbers and they came back with a list of people who seemed to be illegal who did not have authorization to work.
They said we know some of these people are legit and the records are wrong.
We want to fix those people's records, and the ones that are illegal, they have to leave.
They came back with 4,000 names.
1,000 people showed up and got the records fixed.
3,000 were never heard from again.
They were illegal aliens.
It worked really well.
It was intended to be repeated every two to three months so as to wean the whole industry off the use of illegal aliens.
After one effort like this, the political and business of the lead in Nebraska went insane.
The ranchers and the meat packers teamed up with the governor.
The governor's predecessor, now Senator Nelson, was hired as a lobbyist to put an end to this initiative.
Senator Chuck Hagel made it essentially his mission in life to see that this was never repeated, and it wasn't.
And the senior INS official who thought it up in the first place was invited to retire early, and he did.
Now, if you're a bureaucrat, you have kids in college, you're going to take the hint.
So the immigration service essentially gave up enforcing the emigration laws inside the country back in the late 90s.
They focused on the important but narrow issues of criminal aliens and smugglers.
That's okay to focus on that, but there's more to the issue than just that.
But if you're only going to go into those areas that were you're not going to get into trouble politically.
So basically, uh Monsieur, the reason I wanted to tell you this is because your idea was to give businesses one year amnesty to get their houses in order.
If that ever happened, I based on this, it won't.
If it ever happened, if so if that if that proposal ever gets made, can you imagine the phone calls that are going to be made to Washington, D.C. and the results that are going to be demanded.
So you wonder why the laws aren't being enforced.
It's because members of Congress have seen to it themselves.
Now, in in both of these cases, members of Congress are responding to their constituents.
The farmers in Georgia and the meat packing in industry in uh in Nebraska.
In these two instances, I don't think it has anything to do with uh propping up illegals.
This is just, I mean, these are contributors, these are donors, these are uh voters.
And that's where the uh that's where the concern was.
The most amazing thing is that they send the message to the INS look, you're gonna get in trouble.
You're gonna be asked to retire early.
Uh just you get the message real quick.
If you got kids, if you've got a family to support, you want to keep the job, you only investigate the smugglers, the dope smugglers, the people smugglers, and this sort of thing, but you don't go after businesses who have already hired the illegals.
Very quickly, Jeff in Hickory, North Carolina.
Welcome, sir.
Nice to have you with us.
Uh how you doing, Ross.
Big fan of the show.
Thank you.
Hey, I wanted to call.
I uh I was listening earlier to a caller, A.B., and um you told him that he he was more the one that had the racial tendencies, and I think he hit the nail on the head.
And I hear uh story after story like this, and I was reading in the USA Today yesterday uh an article about this Barry Bonds issue, testing for the steroids and is it racial or not?
And there's a quote from a um Leonard Moore, he's a director of African and African American Studies at LSU.
He says, White America doesn't want him, Barry Bonds to pass Babe Ruth and doing everything they can to stop him, says Leonard Moore Dragon.
Well, look, it I don't know how long it took them to find this guy, but you know, USA Today was going to find some black guy somewhere to say that because the story requires it.
If they're gonna say, hey, is there race involved?
They gotta go find somebody who says, yes, there is.
I don't know Leonard Moore.
This is going to ensnare people other than Barry Bonds.
I do think, I do think what this is about in part is to keep Barry Bonds from beating uh uh uh.
Aaron.
Uh no, not Aaron uh Ruth.
No, no.
They can't it is about Aaron.
They can't stop him beating Babe Ruth, but they think they got enough time to stop him from beating uh Hank Aaron, who's black.
Uh, by the way, I don't think race hasn't.
I think the let's remind me to mention this on Monday.
Okay, we'll talk about it.
Gotta go, folks.
Stay with me.
All right, folks, it's just been a fabulous uh past six or seven days.
Look forward to the respite that the weekend provides, and we'd be back revved up and ready to go on Monday.
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