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March 30, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 30, 2006, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
All right, folks, I don't want to hear ever again.
I don't want to hear about it.
By the way, welcome to those of you watching on the DittoCam today.
Be up and running for all three hours.
I don't want to hear anybody say that the media doesn't report good news out of a rock.
Not only are they reporting good news out of a rock, they're asking for privacy for somebody.
The media never does these things.
They're turnaround.
Well, I know it's a journalist was released, and that's the good news.
So they will report good news when it's about them.
Greetings, my friends, and welcome.
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Excuse me.
You terrorists out there, you better watch out.
I'll tell you what, it's getting serious out there.
If our Osama bin Laden and Zark, I would be quaking in my boots because Dingy Harry says the Democrats are going to get Osama.
Yes, finally, somebody's going to try to capture Osama so that we can proclaim the war on terror over.
I'll tell you what, my friends, this is bravery like I haven't seen.
This is courage like I haven't seen from the Democratic Party in years.
Nancy Pelosi, yeah, well, I do.
I feel much safer today, but I would not want to be a terrorist today.
I would not.
Can you imagine these guys in their huts and their caves and news dispatches reach them?
Dingy Harry and Nancy Pelosi have a plan, and it's to capture Osama.
It's the Democratic version of the contract with America.
They say that they're going to inspect every shipping container entering U.S. ports.
That makes me feel safer.
We got pork news, by the way, today.
So hang in there and be tough.
They don't say how they're going to do any of these things, but they do say what they're going to do.
Here's what you have to remember, folks, about the Democratic Party and the left, especially if you're still waiting breathlessly for a Democrat platform.
Don't wait and just know this.
Whatever they say and whenever they say it, four months.
The next time they make a plan, make a pledge, make a promise, start counting.
Four months.
I have run the numbers.
I have done calculations over the history of this long storied career.
Four months is the time it takes any liberal politician to turn a promise he or she makes into a tax increase.
So if they're going to go get Osama, it's going to cost us.
If they are going to inspect all the ports, it's going to cost every plan they come up with is nothing more than a disguised tax increase.
And it will take four months from the time they make the promise until the tax increase is proposed.
And if you doubt me, if you doubt me, what's the latest documentation I have on the number?
Governor Corzine's contract with New Jersey.
He promised he ran on tax cuts.
Did he not?
We have documented on this program, ladies and gentlemen.
Four months later, not only are there no tax cuts, there are tax increases across the board, and there are budget cuts on schools in New Jersey.
Democrats never do that.
So whatever a liberal promises, whenever, whatever, whenever, start counting, take your money into some offshore accounts fast because in four months, it's going to be a tax increase.
We have a special segment coming up on the program today in our 1 o'clock hour.
That's our second hour.
Joel Cernow, the creator and producer, executive producer of the Fox Hit 24, will be here for a half hour.
He's also got with him Howard Gordon.
I don't know if she will appear, but Mary Lynn Raishka is here also, Chloe O'Brien.
I tell you, the past couple days have just been fabulous.
Tuesday night, big cigar dinner in New York benefiting prostate cancer.
This is the 14th annual.
It was at the Four Seasons.
Marvin Shankin, Cigar Aficionado, is the sponsor of this dinner, got it all going.
I was this year's co-host.
We had from the Sopranos, they showed it.
We had James Gandolfini there this year.
We had Uncle Jr., Dominic Chianese, Stephen Van Zant was there.
Paulie Walnuts was there.
Tony Sirico.
And they were nice as they could be.
They just had a great conversation.
Cerno and Howard Gordon.
Yeah, they were.
It was a fabulous night.
We raised $1.2 million.
Michael Milken, who runs the Prostate Cancer Foundation, was the matches everything that's donated.
Yesterday, I flew the 24 contingent that was at the party down here to Palm Beach.
We had a blowout dinner party last night at my house.
It ended at 3 a.m.
At 1.30 this morning, Cerno, a bunch of us out by the pool, and Cerno comes in, I want some bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwiches.
We just finished eating at 10 o'clock.
So we hustled up some bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwiches.
But listen to the guests.
I had Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife Jenny last night.
Noted thriller author Vince Flynn.
Mary Madeline was in for this.
The 24 contingent, including Colleen Cerno, Joel's lovely and gracious wife.
Howard Gordon, who is the head writer for the show, Mary Lynn Raishkub, who plays Chloe.
I had Chris Mara, who's the son of Wellington Mara, owner of the New York Giants, Kathleen Rooney Mara.
She's the Steelers dynasty.
Their daughter Kate has a role on 24 at her debut appearance, replacing what it was, Edgar, was Monday night.
And I had a bunch of local friends from Palm Beach who were huge fans of the show.
And it was, I mean, that party actually began yesterday afternoon.
We got back from New York, and we had to interrupt to take showers and get ready for all the other guests to arrive.
I, of course, ladies and gentlemen, because of my commitment to you and commitment to this program, despite the party not ending until 3 and tumbling into bed at 4, I, and Mr. Snerdley can vouch for it, was here at exactly the same time I always am.
I'm not sure that Cerno's out of bed yet.
I hope he is.
He's supposed to be here in 45 minutes.
But I tell you, the cigar dinner was a huge success.
There's a standing room only, an oversold crowd.
Not everybody who wants to get into this thing every year can do so, but it's just a tremendous event.
And I made a few brief remarks, and I'll repeat the gist of them for you here.
I have met people I otherwise wouldn't admit, were it not for the fact that people who smoke cigars get together.
The cigars are a bridge.
They bridge a gap between people who might not otherwise meet, or even if they met, might not be interested in getting to know each other.
And I'll give you one example.
The first cigar dinner I went to was we had at 21 in New York.
And I walked upstairs, and I'm relatively new to the city, and I only know two or three people are going to be at this thing.
And it's titans from business and finance and all over the place.
Now, the first person I saw was Gregory Hines, late Gregory Hines, the actor.
And I remembered it wasn't some time ago, but my most recent memory of seeing him perform was a tribute to Sammy Davis Jr. before Sammy Davis Jr. died.
They did a little tap dance competition.
Sammy Davis Jr. was ailing, but it was one of the most amazing things that I've ever seen.
I always thought Sammy Davis Jr. had more talent in his little finger than any entertainer of his day.
And Gregory Hines was the same.
So I walked up to Gregory Hines, and he looked at me and he recognized me and I could see immediately suspicion in his eyes.
But I told him what I thought of the show he did with Sammy Davis Jr. and how it had a lot of meaning to me because Sammy Davis Jr. was not well and Gregory Hines could have tap-danced rings around him but didn't.
It was deference to a star, deference to the pro on the part.
And I told him all this.
So he gets up later, thanks me, shakes my hand, gets up later and gives his remarks as what happened throughout the cigar dinner.
And he said, he held up his cigar.
He said, I want to thank whoever invited me here and I want to thank this cigar.
Because if it weren't for this cigar, I would not have gotten to know the real Rush Limbaugh.
And that's what I mean.
That's what happens at these dinners.
And it's John Sally.
John Sally, who is on the best, greatest, whatever it is, damn sports show.
He's hilarious.
He's huge, but he's hilarious.
He brings the house down every year.
And he made an announcement at the cigar.
He said that he showed up, first time at this thing, as anybody would expect him to be, a raving Democrat.
But he has become a Republican since he met me.
I don't know if he means it or not because everybody starts laughing.
I think he does.
But it was just a great time.
And I just wanted to share the experience with you because it's all for such a great cause.
I'll take a quick break.
We'll come back.
We got port deal news.
We have the immigration news the past couple of days.
It's just been astounding.
Can I read you a news headline?
What the hell is this?
Facing a tough battle to push immigration reform through U.S. Congress.
A tough battle to push immigration reform through the Congress.
There's nothing tough about this at all.
This has been greased with butter.
I mean, tough battle.
Anyway, here's the rest of the headline.
Facing a tough battle to push immigration reform through the U.S. Congress.
President Bush was likely to win support from President Vicente Fox at talks on Mexico's Caribbean coast today.
Win support from Fox.
Yoy.
Folks, we got a lot to discuss today.
We'll get to all of it.
And your phone calls right after this first and very important EIB Profit Center timeout.
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President Vicente Fox paused for a long moment before answering a question on how long it would take Mexico to reach a stage where citizens no longer want to cross the U.S. border to seek work.
After pausing, he said, generations.
It's a long way to narrow the gap between incomes in Mexico and on the other side of the border.
Roughly half of Mexico's population lives on less than five bucks a day, according to government figures.
U.S. minimum wage is $5.15 an hour.
Annual Mexican gross domestic product per capita, just under $7,000, almost $44,000 in the United States.
Basically, he says, we're going to be an economic mess in my country for generations.
Well, what about this new oil find that you guys have?
What about this new superport that you're going to build now?
They don't want to fix this circumstance or situation.
I have to tell you, folks, there's some things about this that are really starting to irritate me.
And I hope that this does not disappoint some of you in terms of preparation.
But I've been prepping this program a little bit last night, yesterday afternoon.
But this whole notion, like the Senate, the Senate right now is opening debate on this immigration bill, and Republicans swiftly began arguing over whether the legislation would amount to amnesty for millions of illegal residents in the United States.
You know, amnesty is about as popular a label as liberal is.
And that's why they don't want amnesty associated with it.
That's what this is.
Make no mistake about it.
There's no other way to look at it.
You know, people are trying to say, well, I have $2,000 in fines and having to go to English class is not amnesty.
But it is.
The whole thing, because there's no enforcement.
Do you want anybody want to bet that this is not this going to be enforced?
I'll tell you why it's not going to be enforced.
It isn't going to be enforced because it's an election year.
And all the elected officials in Washington, both parties, seem to care about is the Hispanic voting block.
They don't care about the citizens of this country and what they may think about this.
They care about this new voting block.
It's a stunning thing to watch.
Pure cowardice in action, pure fear is running all of this.
This whole issue, guest workers.
They're trying to call them guest workers to avoid the amnesty label.
They're not guest workers.
They are illegal immigrants.
People out there insisting on a comprehensive plan, which means a pathway to citizenship.
Well, let me tell you, we've been through this before.
Simpson Mazzoli was talking about this the other day, 1986.
When they pushed Simpson Mazzoli, the key argument was that employers would be fined for hiring illegals.
And Jeff Sessions, Senator Sessions in Alabama on the Senate floor yesterday, said that in 2004, there were a total of three instances where employers were charged.
So we've been through this.
They don't enforce any of this stuff.
Simpson Mazzoli, 1986, the big argument there, the key argument, the thing they sold it was, we're going to fine employers who hire these illegals.
You know, we had all kinds of arguments being made.
Well, you know, for free market countries, people do jobs that Americans won't do.
That's another one I'm getting fed up with, too, by the way, which I'll get to here in just a second.
But, you know, the argument, Mark Belling yesterday, I'm talking a lot on emails about his opinion of this.
And I guess he said that we shouldn't be punishing businesses because we allow these kids, the kids of illegals, into our schools.
And we do.
He's right about that.
But we do it by order of the judiciary.
And that started 25 years ago.
But if we don't have employer sanctions, if we don't incarcerate and deport, then what are we doing?
All of this is just meaningless if there's no enforcement.
And let's just wait and see how many $2,000 fines are handed out.
Now, let's see how many English classrooms get filled up with these.
They're not going to enforce any new law.
They won't enforce current law.
The same elites that pressed for the 86 change are at it again.
It's all intended to appear like something is being done to stem illegal immigration when, in fact, it's not.
The country gets roiled about it every 20 years.
A country demands something be done about it.
And the elites in Washington, okay, well, we're really serious about it this way.
We're going to handle it.
We're going to fix it this time.
Tom Sol wrote yesterday, we already subsidize these big agribusinesses.
That's one of the arguments for illegals.
Hey, keeping prices low, you know, we need cheap labor entry-level people provided.
Americans won't do that work.
Well, we already subsidize agribusiness.
We subsidize their water.
We subsidize their products directly by stockpiling it.
We pay them not to grow crops sometimes.
He could have added, he didn't say this, he could have added that ethanol fuel is a big payoff to them, agribusiness.
And now we're supposed to subsidize their labor.
I wonder what the real true cost of a head of lettuce is.
And cheap food, of course, that's something that we all need.
It's not an option in life.
And so everybody's interest in the governing levels is to keep the price of food as low as possible since it's a necessity.
That's why all the subsidies are in there.
But when it leads to silly excuses like this, you have to question the whole thing.
And the problem is there already are pathways to citizenship.
It's called following the law.
And if we need more immigrants, then we can increase the numbers legally, and Congress can do that.
Now we who oppose what they're doing in Congress are being called radical or mean-spirited or racist or sexist or whatever else.
But when is it so radical to demand that the very law Congress passes be enforced?
And what is this silliness that Americans won't do these jobs?
Somebody tell that to the West Virginia coal miners.
Somebody tell that to the Americans, those lazy Americans in Iraq on the battlefield.
This notion that there are jobs Americans will not do is getting a little bit histrionic to me.
I'm sick and tired of being told by these elites in Washington, these politicians, how we all refuse to work.
They seem to think we're all raised like Ted Kennedy or married into wealth like John Kerry.
The American people work, they work damn hard in the economy, and the numbers there prove it.
But yet we're told, oh, the Americans are lazy.
They're uppity.
There's certain jobs that they will not do.
Well, check the coal mines.
Check the military.
I don't see any illegals there.
I know.
And thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
Here we are, half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
We have stumbled across it.
You have to hear this.
We stumbled across it.
Senator McCain, I guess, has been in a recording studio lately explaining the immigration bill that he and Senator Kennedy are working on.
We got one of the outtakes.
Listen to this.
That's our old buddy Paul Shanklin as Senator McCain.
I'll tell you, this whole business, and I once fell for the argument, by the way, that there are jobs Americans won't do, because it sounds right.
But there's something behind that argument that's insidious, and it's this.
It's a put-down.
It's a put-down of people who are working in this country, law-abiding, hard-working, tax-paying Americans, are being put down as Ted Kennedy-type sloths to justify what?
To justify people coming here from other countries illegally and pandering to them because they fear that in a decade or so they're going to lose their votes.
I think some of these politicians need to get out of the beltway and reacquaint themselves with their constituents.
What, Mr. Snerdley?
What's the problem?
How can you reject anything I've said?
What I have said is unassailable.
It's unarguable.
Plus, I'm the host.
You've got supply.
He's talking supply and demand.
You've got the word illegal.
This is a vicious cycle that has perpetuated itself and fed itself.
One of the things this does also is it's a justification for keeping wages low.
It's a justification for keeping wages low, perhaps artificially.
And this is, you know, I don't know.
The whole thing here revolves around that Americans are being told, well, you got to let the illegals in, and you can't argue with us about this because there's jobs out there that you won't do.
And you look around, I would think jobs Americans won't do are the dirty, grimy, tough ones.
And those are the jobs Americans do do.
But to put down work, period, like this is another thing about this argument that just runs awry.
I mean, Americans, in a sense, are being told, and I think they're fed up with it, that they're a bunch of lazy, good-for-nothings when they don't look at themselves that way at all.
A couple audio sound bites here.
Ted Kennedy, Swimmer, yesterday on the Senate floor calls this the new civil rights movement.
Number six, audio.
We're proposed to end this system of exploitation and to right this historic injustice.
We believe that immigrants, like women and like African Americans before them, have rights in this country, and the time is ripe for a new civil rights moment.
We believe that a nation of immigrants rejects its history and its heritage when millions of immigrants are confined forever to second-class status and that all Americans are debased by such a two-tier system.
So here we go.
Now we have the modern equivalents of the civil rights leaders.
These people are no different than Dr. King, no different than the early leaders of the civil rights movement.
So all citizens of the world, regardless of citizenship, deserve the same rights as Americans paid for by Americans.
That doesn't bother you.
And this incorporates every liberal argument they make on the economy.
Here comes class envy.
Here comes guilt.
Here comes elitism.
Now, the swimmer next explains, he was on a situation room with Wolf Blitzer, and he tries here to explain why this bill of his is not amnesty.
Amnesty, you mean if they now pay a amnesty, as I mentioned before, means forgiveness and it means pardon.
It means that they go to the front of the line.
They don't go to the front of the line.
They pay a penalty and they go to the back of the line.
This is a crowd that works hard, plays by the rules, pays their taxes, and wants to make America a better country.
Now, what we're saying is you don't go to the front of the line, you don't go to the middle of the line, but you go to the end of the line.
We have 11 years to find out if you're going to work hard, you're going to pay your taxes, and you're going to stay out of trouble.
Okay, that's a swimmer's attempt to explain how it's not amnesty.
He can't do it because it is.
Rose in Beaumont, Texas.
We'll go to you first on the phones.
Glad to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Yes, sir.
Hi.
I was just wanting to let you know that there is a lot of misinformation out there, and you're talking about the problem.
There usually is.
I know that.
We try to deal with it here every day.
And so the problem is this, that people are not understanding that there are people from all parts of the different countries that have political problems that cause these people, these poor people that are not given the privileges that we have here in the United States coming into these countries.
And that's why we have a problem.
So if we would send some sort of diplomacy over there to keep these people from having problems in their country, keep them away from ours, maybe that would better.
But basically, what you're saying out there, Rose, is that we need to try to understand these people better.
Yes, sir.
Yes, we do.
That's right.
We need to really, we need to understand.
We need to understand their poverty.
We need to understand their rage.
We need to understand whatever it is, because only then will we be able to become a family of one peoples, understanding each other, loving each other, and singing kumbaya all afternoon as we patrol the border on both sides.
Well, if you're Christian, it's something that Jesus Christ would do, and I agree with that because you do go to different countries and solve problems there.
No, I thought I understood Christianity until Hillary Clinton started defining it.
Now, I'm confused.
But I don't think, you know, you can, if you want to look at it and analyze it from that side, we can go both ways and not score any points either way.
This is not a problem of not understanding them.
This is not a problem of not feeling bad for them.
It's not a problem of not understanding their plight.
We have here a political situation.
Look at the ports deal, folks.
I love the ports deal.
We got great ports deal news today, too.
But the fact of the matter is, the people of this country were shocked.
They were outraged.
They were angry that we were going to let an Arab Emirate company run the ports.
People spoke out within three weeks.
Congress said, okay, nobody from any Arab country is going to have anything to do with our ports.
We need to keep those ports secure, so forth.
The same reaction to this immigration bill is occurring, and the same people are being ignored.
The American people are being ignored on this because there is fear in Washington over votes.
It's just, and so we get this recycled Simpson-Mazzoli from 1986, and none of this is practicably enforceable because there's no intent to enforce it.
This is just pandering.
We're all being insulted here, especially when we're told there are jobs Americans won't do.
As I said, we're not all a bunch of born into the life of luxury Ted Kennedy types.
We didn't all marry our money like John Kerry did.
The American people work right snerdily.
American people work very hard.
And to be told that there are jobs they won't do, especially in the midst of a roaring economy, is just a bit much.
Stu in Tampa, you're next.
Great to have you on the program.
Rush, thank you.
Privileged to speak with you.
I'd like to meet you someday.
Listen, I have a recommendation that would fit both the United States and Mexico.
It'll provide jobs for Mexicans, long-term public works project.
And if President Fox is listening, consider this.
Have the Mexicans build the wall.
It'll keep the costs down.
Mexico is home to one of the largest cement and block companies in the world, which is a terrific company.
It'll provide jobs, and all of the offshoot businesses, the little taco stands, and I'm not kidding, the taco stands, the roads that need to be built.
Let the Mexicans build the wall.
Sort of like letting the prisoners build Folsom prison.
Well, it's 700 miles.
They're projecting the length of this wall to be.
If they could do a half a mile a day, that would be a four or a five-year project.
Look at what China is doing on the border of North Korea to stop all of the North Koreans from flowing into China.
What'd they do?
They built a wall.
Yeah, but that's, you know, something.
This is, in all candid, look, it's funny.
And I myself, even, even though you are the rank amateur and I'm the highly trained broadcast specialist, I have been laughing at what you said.
But communist countries build walls.
And they build walls to keep people out.
And I'm not sure I want to go that route.
What you're illustrating, though, is that the first and foremost thing that has to happen is border security.
And how in the world can you go bananas over the port deal on the basis that our ports are unsecured?
And we can't let an Arab company in charge.
What if we sneak a terrorist in here to nuke and then we can all die?
Well, what about the southern border?
There is no concern about the security there that even comes close to paralleling or equaling the hysteria, the tsunami of hysteria that happened with the port deal.
Ladies and gentlemen, consulting the email here, massive numbers of requests to repeat this outtake that we came across of Senator McCain trying to explain his immigration bill.
And so here, right before the commercial break, here it is.
As usual, my friends, half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
You can't see it, but trust me, it's true.
Looks like the economy is still ripping along.
NASDAQ hit a five-year high yesterday.
Tech stocks led the rally.
The Japanese Nikkei Index topped 17,000 for the first time in over five years.
All of this happened, by the way.
And the Rasmussen poll, more people are better off today than they were four years ago.
The sense of progress found across most demographic groups.
56% of men, 54% of women say they are better off today than they were four years ago.
And that view is shared by 55% of white Americans, 52% of black Americans, and 58% of all other Americans.
I know it sounds impossible, but it's true.
72% of Republicans say they're better off than four years ago.
But there's always a silver lining in these polls, proving what I've always said that Democrats are just miserable.
They're just unhappy.
The same answer is given by only 40% of Democrats.
Only 40% of Democrats say they're better off than they were four years ago.
So, you know, economy's doing well, people doing well.
This, folks, despite all of the illegal immigrants taking days off of their important and vital jobs to go out there and wave their Mexican flag in front of the drive-by media, the economy seems to have survived the hit.
Keeps chucking along.
Vicente Fox, Mexican president, defending earlier comments where he insisted that the United States will be begging Mexico to send workers to alleviate a coming U.S. labor shortage.
He said, I dare say in 10 years, the U.S. will be begging, will be pleading with Mexico to send it workers.
So he's got a crystal ball that says things are going to hell.
And he must know that the Democrats are going to win the White House within that period of time.
Here's George in Palm Beach, Florida.
George, nice to have you on the program.
Rosh, how are you today?
What an honor to talk to you about.
Couldn't be better.
Thanks for asking.
Great to have you with us.
Just a little background on me before I start this.
I live in Palm Beach County.
I don't live only just a little ways from you.
I live on the same side of the bridge as you.
I'm exactly the same age as you.
I'm involved in agriculture in South Florida.
It's been very good to me, obviously.
And you're just absolutely, and I agree with you 99.99% of the time, but you are absolutely wrong about this notion that you have that Americans will take the jobs that some of these immigrants are working in.
It's just not true.
It's absolutely not true.
And I would really like to prove that to you and to show you because I know what kind of person you are.
I've listened to you for 18 years now.
George, I know what kind of person you are.
It's not true.
George, you know what?
I'm not even going to require that you prove it because I trust you.
I believe you when you say it.
My answer to you is then let legal immigrants take the jobs.
If nobody will pick fruit or whatever, by the way, in California, we had this argument some 20 or 30 years ago.
We couldn't get the Americans to pick tomatoes and so forth.
So they actually re-engineered the shape of tomatoes and built a machine to pick them so that human beings aren't necessary.
And people complain about it.
Totally, that's a different situation.
Those tomatoes are known for processing.
And everything down here is fresh market stuff.
That's what I'm saying.
Look, we needn't argue because I believe everything you're saying is true.
But it's not a justification for sustaining and promoting illegal immigration.
There are plenty of legal immigrants coming in the country that need entry-level jobs, things like this to get started.
And why couldn't they do the job?
Why does it have to be illegals?
Well, how are we going to make them legal to do it then?
Are we going to make it legal for them to do it?
How are we going to legalize them to do this work?
There are two kinds of immigrants in this country to get in every year, legal and illegal.
And I'm just asking, why can't you?
The legal ones have jobs.
The legal ones are working in industries and they're working in all of them.
No, no, wait a minute.
I'm running out of time here.
Are you saying at 30 seconds?
Are you saying the illegals are poor?
The legals are accomplished and achieved when they arrive.
I'm saying that the illegals are the ones that are working in our industry because the legals have gotten into society.
They've gotten the better jobs.
They're not the ones that are taking these type of agricultural jobs.
I'm glad you called because this illustrates one of the sides of the argument that is roiling the Republican Party.
Agribusiness is very eager to promote the use of illegals to keep wages down, price of food down.
George, I wish I had more time, but I got to run.
I'm up against it.
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