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March 2, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 2, 2006, Thursday, Hour #3
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Thanks very much and welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program here at the EIB Network.
I'm Roger Hitchcock broadcasting today from San Diego, the studios of KOGO Radio, hard by the open border with Mexico.
We taking your calls at 1-800-282-2882.
And as I predicted in the first hour, this was an easy one, don't think I'm uh uh claiming anything here.
You could have done it uh as well as I. As I predicted in the first hour, the story about the Katrina video tape warning of George to George Bush by FEMA director Brownie has now morphed, has evolved, has transgendered, so to speak, into the story that Bush knew Katrina was going to drown New Orleans.
MSNBC.
They just said Bush knew.
Uh when you actually, and I hope you get a chance to see the videotape, you will first of all understand that this is Bush videotaping himself, completely open, it's no secret meetings, completely open meeting in which he gets a briefing about, and obviously the president had demanded a briefing, and he held the briefing and was briefed on how are we going to respond to these storms coming.
And got the briefing and said, Go get it, go do it.
Get all the stuff down there.
Uh I'm with you all the way, you guys are doing a great job.
You know, did a little cheerleading for him, like a good leader should.
Wasn't Bush's failure, Brownie, it was your failure.
But it is uh inevitable as night follows day that the media seizes upon it to then run all the video about Katrina suffering, and and blame it on Bush.
Bush knew.
He knew and did nothing.
Just as predictable as can possibly be, and with the least amount of credibility based on fact.
Because, again, let me play this.
This one thing out you probably see this on the tape tonight if they do it.
Max Mayfield is briefing the people there from FEMA, and and he says this.
I don't think anyone can tell you with any uh confidence right now whether the levees will be topped or not.
So Ponchatrain Lake topping the levies, whether it'll top or not.
Uh moreover, whether it will undermine the levees or not.
No one expected that there would be an undermining of the levies, nor was there any conversation about that.
But now you will see this story morph into transgender cross the line into Bush knew the levies would fail and did nothing.
I just you could just guarantee it.
And yet the video tape, which by the way, was not only made by Bush, not only made by the Bush administration, it was sent to the networks on Sunday, August 28th, 2005.
Last August, before Katrina hit.
The networks had the tape because then the Bush administration spin was look, we're doing everything we can.
Here's the evidence of it.
President's been briefed, here's the plan.
It's on videotape.
Check it out.
And of course they never ran the tape then, because the tape then would have shown that Bush had the full report, that he had mobilized the federal government, that he had directed them to go out and do everything they could.
The subsequent failure to do the things that should have been done, which by the way, I think is at least shared by the uh mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana.
Certainly the failure of quote government unquote at all levels is a story, but is it a story that Bush knew, did nothing, wanted blacks to die, knew they would be drowned, refused to help.
That's what the left will take.
And today, in India, here's George Bush doing what we needed to do.
Pull India to our side.
Pull in a democracy that is evolving into a more free enterprise, evolving out of its post-World War II British socialism model, the Nehru model, into the Singh model, the uh the reforms, the market reforms, the capitalism, uh bringing in foreign investment, allowing private ownership, reducing regulations and bureaucracy, which India has a mountain of.
Uh these are the kind of things we need to encourage, and as India buys more and more of our goods, because that's what they do, they buy a lot, and they don't have any oil.
One of the things they're gonna buy are Westinghouse nuclear reactors, which we refuse to put in this country to wean ourselves off Middle East oil.
But India's gonna do.
They'll take the latest technology and nuclear power and make it work, because it does.
Little surprise there for you in viros.
It does.
So here's the uh the the the treaty today.
President of the United States in India, signs a deal, three times the trade, talks about nuclear aid, nuclear powers, and then draws a bright line.
And this is what's important to say, because again I predict the critics will say, wait a minute, India hasn't signed the non proliferation treaty.
It's not a member of the UN thing, it's not uh signing this treaty.
Uh it's just like North Korea, it's just like Iran.
Uh well, no.
Because if Iran accepted the deal that has just been signed with India, we wouldn't have a problem with Iran.
India said, bring in the IAEA, the UN watchdog agency on nuclear power.
Bring them in.
Have them uh set up here, because here's what we're doing in weaponry, they can look right at it.
Here's what we're doing with nuclear power, and we're going to keep the two separate, and here's how we're going to do it, and they can inspect us any day of the week.
If Iran did that, we wouldn't have a problem with Iran.
Other than the fact that that crazy nutcase prime minister shouldn't have a nuclear weapon.
I don't think he should have a sharp object, much less a nuclear weapon.
Now, there's a sad but instructive story out of France today.
France with five million Muslims and six hundred thousand Jews has to face a very real problem.
A couple of weeks ago, on a Monday morning, a Elon Halimi.
Elon Halimi, a twenty-three-year-old cell phone salesman, whose store where he worked was on a boulevard named after Voltaire.
If you know something about philosophy, off a square dedicated to the Republic of France.
An ordinary young Frenchman, except for one thing, he was Jewish, which got him killed.
Lured by a young woman that he met in a club to a rendezvous on January twentieth, he fell into the hands of kidnappers, a gang that calls themselves the Barbarians.
A gang led by a twenty-six-year-old Muslim named Yusuf Fofana, who calls himself the brains of the barbarians, quote unquote.
And in an empty third floor apartment and later in a basement utility room in a Paris suburb that's home to lots of immigrants.
Ilam Halami was tortured to death.
Several times during the course of the month that he was tortured, the month that he was tortured, the kidnappers called Ilan's family and read verses from the Quran over the phone while their sons screamed in agony in the background.
Will there be a trial in Parsipony?
I don't think so.
But the French now have to come to grips with what has happened.
The barbarians are indeed within the gates.
The French president was moved, Mr. Chirac, to call this an anti-Semitic hate crime.
Thank you.
And he and the leader of the socialist opposition, together with the Archbishop of Paris of the Catholic Church, and the head of the biggest mainstream Muslim organization attended a memorial ceremony for Alon Halami at a synagogue in Paris.
And since then, as you probably have seen in the news, there has been a lot of demonstrations about this.
This is a problem, ladies and gentlemen.
By any standard, too many Muslims, not all, but too many, take it upon themselves to justify the most obscene barbarism.
In fact, in an interview, this fellow Yusuf uh Yusuf Fofana was uh fled the country and um fled to Ivory Coast where he was born, the former part of the French uh colonies down there where you become a French citizen by being born there.
He's a he's a Muslim.
He was uh interviewed By the uh French press.
Dressed in a sweatsuit with a female companion at his side, says the account.
Fofana dined on a meal spread out on a chair while the TV cameras rolled and he was interviewed.
And he calmly and smiling frequently responded to questions about this grisly killing and said, well, it was just for the money for economic reasons, because we're oppressed.
They never asked for money.
They called up Alani's family to let him let the family hear him screaming during the torture.
Because you see, when you do read the Quran, you understand that Muslims can lie to infidels.
There is no, in fact, they're encouraged to if it advances the expansion of the Ummah, the land of Islam.
If, however, you lie to each other, that's a grave sin, one Muslim lying to another.
But lying to an infidel is what you do when you are really advancing the Muslim cause.
When Yusuf Fafana smiled in that interview, every Muslim knew why he was smiling.
Because he was lying, misleading, an infidel.
The highest calling of these crazies.
Even France cannot take this.
And it is interesting now to watch what the French will do.
I'm Roger Hedgecock, the land for Rush Limbaugh.
Back after this.
We're a little nervous out here in California.
Roger Hedgecock in for Rush Limbaugh, a little nervous because some of these terrorists are popping up in California, specifically in the Central Valley, specifically uh in a trial now being held here in California in uh a Lodi man, Lodi, L-O-D I,
a town in the uh in the Central Valley of uh California, Hamid Hamid Hayat, a Pakistani, uh talking as he's on uh trial on terrorist charges, talking about how a um militant anti-American political party in Pakistan called the SSP, the Sipa A Sahaba, has, as he put it, branches throughout the United States.
He said they're in every state, and uh he says uh there are five branches in every state, there are five people in every branch.
And they are citizens of the United States.
They are Muslims and Pakistanis.
So again, people to watch, the same fellow was saying that they were organized to attack terror as terrorist targets to attack hospitals and markets.
Let's go to Thomas in Wichita, Kansas.
Thomas, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hey, Roger, great to speak with you, man.
Thank you.
Thanks for calling.
I I've talked to Rush a few times, and I never I I I don't agree with him on very much except sports, but uh anyway, I think Well, you agree on something, that's good.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh he was uh I I lived in Kansas City, he was up there with the royals and everything.
Yeah, Kansas City is a great sports count.
You bet.
But let me get right into it, like I'm supposed to hear.
Um boy, I can't believe you are giving Bush a free ride on this Katrina thing.
This guy knew that there was a possibility of breaches in that levy.
Okay, it was only a category three instead of a category five.
But there was still a breach.
Everybody in America sat there and watched it on TV just like I did, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, uh, Fox.
Everybody was down there broadcasting that the thing was flooding.
And they didn't have helicopters for crying out loud to airlift uh water and food in there at the convention center and and to the uh superdome down there for crying out loud.
Where was this guy?
He was in Arizona.
And I can't believe that.
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Wait a minute, Thomas.
Wait a minute, let's be accurate.
He was in San Diego.
Okay, well, but here's here's the point.
Here's the point on this.
Are you saying that Bush knew the levies would break?
He knew there was a possibility of it.
Now wait a minute.
Okay, he knew and and he knew there was a possibility.
He was briefed on video tape that he made available to the press.
He was briefed by the people who were in charge, and what did he do when he was briefed, Thomas?
Well, he said that we're going to have everything down there and everything's going to be fine, but when you're not going to be able to do that.
He told the bureaucrats to do their job.
He told the bureaucrats to do their job.
Now when when the and he's responsible for the fact that the federal government fell down on this, I'm not saying he's not and I'm not giving him that pass.
I'm giving him the credit that the Democrats won't, that he's not the kind of man or human being or American, much less president, who would know ahead of time that people are going to die and do nothing about it.
I think that's the most outrageous, I mean just disgusting thing when that implication is made and it was just made a moment ago on MSNBC.
So Thomas, what I'm saying What I'm saying, what I'm saying is this the the response to Katrina by the feds, by the mayor of New Orleans who did not follow his own evacuation plan and left all those buses sitting underwater when they should have moved people by the governor of Louisiana who's on those and by the way I was watching the same time you were the governor of Louisiana is assuring us that the levees have not broken while they're showing a split screen of the levees having broken in the water going into New Orleans.
So there's plenty of blame to go around for the lack of response.
But let me tell you something that I've even learned since then Thomas on this Katrina thing an overdose of government after the fact is as bad as a lack of government attention before the fact because since then and this is now being reported as well in Mississippi, in New Orleans and other places, they are not allowing people to come back and rebuild their homes.
They're not allowing people to get permits.
Down in Mississippi you can't get a building permit.
You can't get people to uh come in and rebuild your home there's all these new regulations there's all these new things the insurance companies want there is now a giant bureaucracy preventing people from recovering.
It's as bad a story as the catastrophe.
Well, then what is the point of living in this greatest country in the world, supposedly?
I mean, for crying out loud, come on, you guys.
I could do a better job than this, and I don't even have a college education, but I'll tell you this much.
Bush is not the do-all, spend-all guy that everybody thinks he is.
I just can't.
I'm so angry, I'm so angry that you and Rush and Sean and Neil Bortz and all you guys just think he is the greatest thing in the world because of this war on terror.
And I don't see this war on terror, and I know I'm getting off the subject of Katrina a little bit, but this war on terror, for crying out loud, these terrorists have killed maybe 5,000 people in five years now, and for heaven's sakes, heart disease kills more than that.
This is not a big cotton-picking, I just don't understand.
Come on, Roger, give me a break here.
Enlighten me.
You don't believe we're at war?
With who?
With people who want to kill us.
Well, heart disease wants to kill us.
Are we on war on heart disease?
Are we on the war on drugs?
Drugs kill more than the terrorists do.
So, Thomas, heart disease, which is an individual disease governed by genetics and lifestyle, and drugs, which is an individual choice of people who get addicted for whatever reason, that's on the same plane in your thinking as an attack on the United States by an organized government group of people who hate America, hate capitalism, hate our freedoms and are determined to kill us.
Well I I think that they have killed more Americans than the terrorists have thank you Thomas for revealing yourself so uh poignantly on this program I could not have done it better myself.
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Mike in Grandview, Washington, has been waiting a long time.
Mike, go ahead.
Yeah, where do I start?
Mike, I can't help you with that, man.
You've just got to do your own start.
Go ahead.
Well, I just got to listen.
I just listened to that guy, and jeez.
Okay, my problem is I am agreeing with Democrats that I can't stand.
on the port deal.
right Democrats are you agreeing with what's that which Democrats are you agreeing with uh it seems like all of them and about half of the Republicans they all think it's a bad deal and my parents who I love think it's a bad deal.
My initial reaction was it's a bad deal.
Now I'm getting more information, and I'm not sure if it is a bad deal, but Rush and uh Sean Hannity are on other sides of this issue.
Well, that means you have to kind of think for yourself, Mike, which is what you ought to do.
But hold on, we'll come back and help you through it right after this.
Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program here on the EIB network.
I'm Roger Hedgecock filling in for Rush today.
He'll be back tomorrow, and of course all the stuff is there at Rush Limbaugh.com.
Your phone calls at 1800-282-2882.
Now, Mike in Grandview, Washington is with us.
Mike is still there?
Yeah.
Now, what do we know that we all agree on?
What we know we all agree on is we would prefer that every port in the United States be run by Americans.
Correct.
I think everybody agrees with that.
But that's the one.
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, let's just take it one step at a time.
I'm defending the other.
Let's just take it one step at a time.
Okay.
Are you with me?
Are you with me?
Okay.
Yep.
One step at a time.
We all agree it would be better if Americans ran the ports.
Right.
Correct?
Correct.
Now, we have found out in the last couple of weeks something most Americans didn't know, and that is that there are numerous foreign companies, some owned by foreign governments like Singapore and uh some that are private, some that are partially owned by foreigners, partially owned by Americans, some that have uh, you know, stock market uh ownership with a broad array of owners.
We have found out that a lot of these companies are running various terminals, not the port itself, because those are government entities, but the terminals that lift these containers off the ships and put them on the dock and vice versa, right?
And that is a big point.
It's the terminals, not the ports themselves, as Democrats are trying to say.
Because of the fact that they were mentioned fifty-eight times in the 9-11 Commission report as funding Iran and other things.
I I I just can't figure this out.
Well, the the UAE, uh, I would prefer personally was not involved in unloading anything at American ports.
No.
The company that they're talking about, which is again, they're they're buying a company that has been doing this operation.
They have American employees.
Yes.
They have American managers, they have Americans working it.
Right.
Um is and Americans are still gonna be working it.
Yeah.
So again, pinpoint your problem.
My problem is I don't know.
You know, the Democrats keep saying that we only, you know, uh check find six percent of the stuff coming in here.
Well, you know, I'm sorry.
I'm 36, but I know for 50 years they control the Congress.
So uh why didn't they do something about it?
Now all of a sudden it's a problem.
Um that is my problem.
Are we going to know what's coming in here?
Well, any more than we ever did, the answer is no.
No.
But Mike, uh you're you have an underlying problem.
Your underlying problem is that the s the total security scheme, whether it's done by foreigners or or Americans, is not adequate.
Isn't that right?
No, yeah.
It's that yeah, that's absolutely accurate.
So it doesn't, you know, I I think what Russia's been saying is look at the security issue and understand that we have a security issue, whoever the operators are.
In the case of the UAE, everyone has questions whether that's going to be an avenue for terrorists, particularly since it turns out Al Qaeda has boasted about infiltrating the government of the UAE.
Um so what are we doing to to to to do safeguards?
Well, I'd like those safeguards being on the West Coast here along with you.
I'd like to see those West those West Coast safeguards on the company from Singapore that runs the LA port or that runs some of the terminals there that is owned in part by the Singapore government that is owned in other part by private investors who have ties to the Chinese communists.
So this issue is not uh just a UAE issue.
I think it's an issue of what are we doing overall in terms of security.
Now let me tell you what is going on overall.
The information I have is that, and this is a San Diego company, so I had a kind of a little lock on uh on it on some information, that there are underway now a crash effort to manufacture known technology, uh X-ray technology that will be in place in all of these terminals that virtually will look inside uh, if not all, a greater number of these uh containers.
Number two, that the source of the containers, wherever they're being shipped from, will also have people on that end checking the manifest against what's going in.
In other words, getting a check before it even gets on a boat to come here.
So whoever's operating that crane is not as crucial as the question of are we really getting a security grip on this because it's clearly a vulnerability.
Yeah.
Well I I wish you could understand my my consternation here, uh uh.
You know, uh I I found myself against myself, literally.
I was agreeing with people that I couldn't I don't want to say can't stand, but Democrats.
No, but see, all they could do.
They're totally wrong on almost everything I believe in.
Look, the Democrat critics were just trying to make their usual anti-Bush tear down Bush routine.
They had no alternatives.
They had no suggestions.
They were simply once again against Bush.
That's all they have.
Now, Mike, I just I j I know, but I just gave you the the answer to all of that.
Bush is saying it's not that operator that's the most important thing.
And I think it's a good idea.
It's upgrading our security.
In other words, Bush is coming back saying, no, no.
You're missing the fact that we're upgrading the security, we are going to X-ray, we are going to inspect, we are going to have customs to do it, we are going to have the Coast Guard to do it, we are going to intercept uh outside of ports and not even allow these ships in if we have a suspicion.
In other words, he responded with what amounted to a good plan of upgrade, which we desperately needed to hear.
What did you hear any Democrat responding with an alternative that was positive?
No.
Mike, thanks for your call.
Let's go to Melissa on a cell phone in Connecticut.
Hi, Melissa.
Hi.
Hi there, you're on the show.
Hi.
Um I'm responding to uh Thomas.
And does he not understand that the federal government can't just go into a state and take over?
They have to wait until they're invited by the governor.
And the fact that we tried to get the governor to to do stuff beforehand and she wouldn't do it, or for the first time in the history of the hurricane center, they called the mayor of the mayor of um New Orleans on Friday before the hurricane hit and said, please start evacuating evacuating your people now.
And he said, No, not going to do it.
That Amtrak went to the mayor and said, We got to get all our equipment out of this city, so we're taking these empty trains out.
Put your people on them, we'll take them out.
He said, No, we're not going to do it.
Absolutely.
And and and Melissa, that the absolute responsibility as a first responder goes to the mayor and the governor by their own plans.
They didn't follow their own plans.
And and by the way, when you look at what eventually did happen, what did happen, it was federalized uh troops that went in.
It was Coast Guard uh helicopters that went in.
It was a Coast Guard ship that docked there at the port of New Orleans as a command center that allowed uh people a safe place to which to coordinate relief efforts.
There was nothing that was done by Mayor Nagan or by the governor of Louisiana that followed their plan.
And in fact and in fact, they would have escaped any real responsibility for anything had not the levies broke uh in the way they did, because Katrina was gone, it had devastated a lot of the city, but it was gone and not causing a permanent problem until those levees broke.
When they broke, then a whole new set of of problems stepped in.
Those people who did not evacuate then could not evacuate.
And that was when uh Negan said, well, it's the Fed's responsibility and threw up his hands and and said uh, you know, it's your fault, it's your problem, you guys aren't responding.
Well, he hadn't responded, as you point out, for days.
Well, I I I was at school in New Orleans.
And um what my my very favorite thing is that that central lockup, which is basically a maximum security prison downtown New Orleans, there was no evacuation plan for that.
So they just let all the prisoners go.
Yep.
That's that's who was in that's who was in that's to those people who were in downtown New Orleans.
Worth prisoners from central lockup.
And they wondered why there was looting and shooting and murders.
It was a big surprise.
What a surprise.
Jamie, I mean, uh Melissa, thanks.
I appreciate it.
Um let's um uh take a break and then we're gonna come back.
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Roger Hedgecock in for rush, rush back tomorrow.
And of course, all the rush stuff at rushlinbod.com back after this.
I would be remiss if I didn't bring this up, and it's by way of thanks to the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa.
Because he has called it absolutely on the nose.
The Bush tax cuts in capital gains, which reduced it to 15 percent from 20 percent, caused so much economic activity, and there are obviously other factors involved here that cause economic activity.
But believe me, an incentive this big, 5 percent, uh resulted in so many more capital gains happening that tax receipts, actual money received by the Treasury, are $87 billion more than the Congressional Budget Office predicted for the years 2003 through 2006.
87 billion more.
Because the Democrats say if you cut tax rates, you're cutting taxes on the wealthy, the uh government suffers, the poor suffer, everybody suffers, and you're giving these breaks to the wealthy.
The reality is when you cut taxes on everybody who sells, and a hundred million people, by the way, of this country, uh not just the wealthy few, have uh stocks.
And if those stocks are not in pension plans, they get taxed when you sell them on capital gains.
Not to mention selling your home, selling, you know, all that other stuff that capital gains applies to.
Hits a lot of people.
87 billion more.
Because the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, had the same old Democrat thing.
You cut the rates, you're gonna cut the revenue.
If we raise the rates, we raise the revenue.
And Democrats have said both of those things for the last, I don't know, 50 years.
So let's take 30 years, and let's look at the Congressional Budget Office over 30 years.
Capital gains were cut in 1978.
The CBO said we're going to cut revenues.
Revenues went up.
Capital gains were cut in 1997.
The CBO said revenues would go down.
Revenues went up.
Capital gains were cut in 2003, and I just mentioned 87 billion more came in.
And the one time that Congress raised the capital gains rate from 20 to 28 percent in the 1986 tax reform.
CBO said this is going to bring in more revenue to the Treasury.
Capital gains revenue fell.
Capital gains revenue fell when they raised the rate from twenty to twenty-eight.
If you want to raise more money for government, cut the tax rates.
If you want more economic activity, lower unemployment, more jobs, and more government money.
You cut tax rates.
Thank you, Chuck Grassley for calling the CBO for being wrong on this point for 30 years.
Thank you, Chuck Grassley, for saying it's time to make the Capital Gain 15% rate permanent.
Because it should be, if not 15, it should be lower.
In order to stimulate economic activity, investment, job creation, and government revenues.
How long is the general public going to be ignorant of this fact that the Democrats and the Congressional Budget Office have been dead wrong for 30 years on this subject, and Art Laffer has been right.
When are the Democrats going to realize we're on their side on this?
Aren't they the party that wants more government?
More government revenue, more help for the poor and disadvantaged of our society.
If they do, cut the tax rates.
It's as simple as looking at the facts.
Here's Jamie in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Jamie, hi.
Welcome to the Rush Show.
Hi, Roger.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
I just want to chime in and follow up the gentleman's call from, I think it was Wichita, who seems to think that the heart disease seems to threaten our national and economic security more than terrorism does.
Yeah.
As being a survivor of the World Trade Center attack on uh the 11th, I feel that sometimes it's uh an obligation to remind people like him what we were really up against and how big of a shame that it is that our PC culture here does not want to show images of those attacks at least once a year to at least commemorate and make people remember it.
So where were you on the where were you on 911?
I was in Tower 2, uh 61st floor.
Well, you were just below where it hit.
Yeah.
Fortunately, um I worked for a financial firm, uh Morgan Stanley at the time, and our chief of security was uh wise enough to evacuate all the employees, so we got down to about the 23rd floor in the stairwell when the uh when the plane hit our tower.
What did it feel like when you were on the twenty-third floor in the stairwell and the plane hit the tower?
Oh, Roger, it's amazing.
I mean, it was the loudest explosion.
Keep in mind, too.
I mean, I was forty fifty floors below where the impact was, and there were people the tower is shaking so badly that there were people that couldn't stand up.
They could not keep their balance.
And quite honestly, we all thought that the whole tower is gonna come down on top of us because it was swaying that violently.
Extremely scary.
What happened when you got out of the building?
Uh you know, I tell everybody this day it was more of a reaction than anything, you know, when you're in that kind of experience, you don't really think.
You just pretty much react.
And uh, you know, I'll uh I'll be honest with you, it was it was nasty.
I mean, some of the stuff you saw out there, and uh, you know, it's gonna stay with me the rest of my life.
But uh, you know, it's just a shame just going back to my original point.
Well, but Jimmy, let me uh let me ask you about that.
You went out of the you you came out of the building.
Yeah.
What'd you see?
Well, I looked up, and it too and and from my vantage point, it looked like the fires were burning evenly.
Where I guess in all actuality they weren't really.
But first thought I had was, I mean, what happened?
It must be some sort of attack, but you'd never possibly fathom that people would drive planes into the building.
It was crazy.
So you so you looked up and you saw fire.
Oh, yeah.
Black smoke pouring out.
I mean, you could see people hanging out the the windows.
I mean, it was terrible.
So where'd you go?
Away.
Uh set it up.
Uh walked uh I'm not from New York.
I was up there for uh three weeks, and uh just headed over to to Broadway and walked up that way, pretty much followed the boards, and uh I was probably I don't know, ten, eleven blocks away.
Just best guess when the when the R tower came down.
Jimmy, thanks for helping us remove it and to remember it, and you're absolutely right we ought to.
I'm Roger Hedgecock in for rush back after this.
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We've learned what the next line of attack is on George Bush.
We've learned that in the meantime he's producing a good thing in India for the future of this country.
We've learned we've got to pay attention to those public schools even more now than ever.
And we've learned not to forget 911.
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