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Feb. 10, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 10, 2006, Friday, Hour #2
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That's right.
I am uh I am back.
I have uh they let me try another hour of this uh golden EIV microphone.
Welcome to the program.
The Rush Limbaugh program was uh is being uh uh hosted by me because Rush is doing uh the uh golf swing thing at uh at Monterey.
He's in uh ATT at Pebble Beach.
And if you want to uh check out what he's doing, you can go to Rush Limbaugh.com and they've got photos there of uh round one at the ATT with uh Tom Pernice, the uh the pro that he's playing with, and also video of the uh the interview.
There's a great interview we did with uh with Neil Cavuto.
I uh he Oh Cavuto's gonna get mad at me if he hears about it.
I was sitting there, they're out there out there on the um have you if you've ever been to Pebble Beach, it's just it's just one of the more beautiful places in the world.
And they're out there, then Fox has set up this uh this uh the set for Neil Cavuto to do his show.
How did by the way, how did he get that?
I mean, what is this?
He does uh he does kind of a financial show.
What is a golf tournament at Monterey if anyway, so he's out there, he's he's figured out, yeah, how to hang out with all the rich guys out there in Monterey.
Uh but Neil, lose the suit.
You're on the you're on the golf course.
It's eighty degrees.
It's a beautiful springtime feeling day, and uh so anyway, just have a good time.
But uh I know I don't want him in knickers, but I was I I just thought maybe a golf shirt.
I mean, I don't know.
I I wear uh a suit when I'm in a suit place, but uh anyway, it's a great interview that Neil did with Rush.
And they covered a lot of territory and it was a lot of fun.
So anyway, that's on Rush Limbaugh.com as well.
You can hit the uh video and watch that.
Uh and Rush, I heard him before he left on Tuesday say, well, uh, you know, I'm the guy who uh runs the Sullivan group that is in does the accuracy ratings for uh for Rush and uh Well that's true.
That's true.
I've been doing that since uh 19 uh 88.
Yeah, I didn't start it uh because uh he was in uh Sacramento uh with me in nineteen from eighty four to eighty-eight and uh and uh so uh I know I started in eighty, I already had no, no, no, the Sullivan Group started in nineteen eighty.
So uh he was no, he was way down the list of of clientele.
But this is this is an area that my brother Floyd is uh he's a big math weenie.
He he does all this uh I don't even understand what he's saying sometimes.
I mean I I I do the investment stuff, but he does the He does all this analytical mathematics permutation combination stuff that I don't even know what it is, but but right now we're running with the accuracy rating of uh this program at 98.7.
And uh he you know at one point I mean you walk uh you know nobody ever he never he rush never brings up the uh what where's that one point three percent gap?
What caused that?
What was that from?
Well it was from it was from mistakes, it was from errors.
Oh, he's not gonna like this at all.
I mean here I am on his program talking about the mistakes.
But uh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
1.3% of the time, he's just flat wrong.
We always corrected him.
And uh but he uh he uh but but when he's wrong, he always uh admits it and comes back and and and talks about it.
But I've been uh well Floyd actually has been keeping track of this and putting it into these formulas that he uses.
And uh I think one of the areas that he gets knocked down on is in this uh every football season, you know, he comes along and he's got these environmentally correct uh uh NFL picks.
And well sometimes they just don't work out.
And and so we you know he gets the I'm sorry, he pays a penalty when when he gets those wrong.
And uh I think the big one, he was up to ninety-nine point nine.
And this was back uh six years ago.
And he and he and and he said uh Hillary he's he he thought Hillary would not run for the U.S. Senate.
So I I mean now I mean uh here I am.
I'm just here to bring the truth to you faithful ditto heads out there that yeah, one point three percent of the time, I'm telling you.
All right, Rush is a very humble guy.
He's he he understands that uh that there's uh that there's uh he's not he's not perfect, so uh he's like the all the rest of us Sometimes uh but but uh I don't know if a lot of you know 98.7 anyway is the current ranting uh ranking that we have on uh on this program.
Uh the margin of error I'd have to ask Floyd uh it's it's in a fraction of one percent.
So it's it's pretty close, pretty tight.
After all, we've got how many years?
Seventeen years?
Is that right?
Seventeen, eighteen years of of history on this stuff.
So the numbers he can make a mistake and it doesn't move the numbers that much, or he can the other part is trying to get back to that 99.9 is gonna be very difficult.
There's a lot of data to try to move to that percentage sign up.
So anyway, I just wanted to make sure I address that with you folks who have been wondering about this over the years.
In fact, um, you know, if I if uh HR, I don't know if you remember, but I uh originally made a visit to the New York studios of of the EIB uh with the uh two senior vice presidents uh that we were we were in New York, oh gosh, that had to have been nineteen ninety, something like that, when we were doing the original Yeah.
Yes, that was quite a while ago.
Um of accuracy, our old friend Harry Reed, the Senate minority leader, has uh, and this is this is getting interesting because in my district uh there's a local congressman that is also uh he's a Republican,
and he is uh also being uh a lot of innuendo about ties to Abramoff and uh Jack Abramoff and the fact that he got some uh donations some campaign uh funds from Abramoff and uh that the Abramoff uh clients he wrote a letter in favor of something for Abramoff clients.
You know, the thing about the Abramoff story is I think most of us don't like the whole kind of schmarmy way that Congress is lobbied and money is passed around, and I mean the thing that I always go to is if I was if I was a a member of Congress, here's here's what you do.
You throw I see these things uh because I live in the Capitol of California.
We see these things all the time.
You go by some high-end uh club someplace and they've got the place closed for some reception.
And the reception is a whole bunch of lobbyists lined up with their checkbooks to go in and get two minutes of time with some member, some elected uh politician, uh two minutes of time, they get they get some crackers and some cheese whiz and uh watered down drink, and then they get to go get two minutes of time with whoever the elected person is and they write a check for a thousand bucks.
Now, I I I don't know about you, but there's not too many of us that would go over to somebody's house for a party and pay a thousand dollars and get crackers and cheese whiz and get two minutes of time to speak to people and then out the door you go.
But that is kind of the standard uh I I'm not exaggerating that much.
I mean, these are thousand dollar checks handed out all the time by lobbyists, to members that are of elected representatives of uh of the Congress or your state legislature.
And so it is swarmy, in my opinion.
And I think most people look at this and go, there's there i it it just seems dirty.
But it's but it as a friend of mine in Congress says, uh I don't know of any other way to do this.
They have the right to raise money.
It's a business.
They're in a they're in a business like you and I are in a business.
They have chosen an occupation, you have chosen an occupation.
You go out and you make money how however you do it.
They make money uh to fund their campaigns and to stay in office by a way that has been deemed to be legal.
I the other choice is public financing of campaigns, and I'm the last guy who wants my tax dollars going to pay for somebody uh to to uh run for uh an elected office.
I don't want to do it that way.
I still like the idea that we have uh the freedom in this country to be able to support whoever we want to support.
So Harry Reid is uh the only thing about Harry Reid comes into this is on one hand, he's he's part of the process that everybody in Congress and every state legislature go through, and that is raising money for his political pet causes and also his uh campaigns.
The problem is is that when you start being higher and mightier than thou and start uh uh pointing the finger and saying it's a uh it's a culture of corruption on the Republican side of the aisle, you've got to be careful.
And I'm wondering if this story that is out uh came out late yesterday afternoon, after Roger finished the show yesterday, here's his story about uh Harry Reed wrote at least four letters helpful to Jack Abramoff clients, and Harry Reed's staff had frequent contact with Abramoff's lobbyist team about various specific legislation.
And the activities are detailed in associated presses reporting previously unreported billing records and correspondence.
Now I suspect when we get through this whole Abramoff thing, there were there are going to be three or four members of Congress that have violated the law.
I that's that's my guess.
I think there's probably three or four.
Out of five hundred and thirty-five members, I think that is probably just you take a barrel full of monkeys, you're going to find a certain small percentage of them are bad.
And in this barrel full of monkeys, I think you're going to find three or four that are going to come down on Abramoff saying, uh, look at I gave them money in exchange for a vote.
And here's the difference.
If if you're an elected member of Congress and I come to you and I say, I'd like to talk to you about that uh bill, that Senate Bill 123.
I'm for it, and I sure hope you support it too.
And oh, by the way, let me give you this campaign contribution here for a thousand bucks.
Believe it or not, that's legal.
If I come to you and I say, I'm uh pretty interested in that Senate Bill 123, and uh if you vote yes on it, I'll give you a thousand dollars.
That's illegal.
And there is the line.
And I think most members of Congress, I've been told again by a number of friends of mine who have been members of Congress, if they if you have money they want you want to give to them, they'll figure out a way to get it.
There's plenty of loopholes and plenty of laws.
The problem with Reed is that he's been higher and mightier than thou, and yet he is up to here in specific money and specific campaign contributions and specific contacts and specific correspondence and letters tied in with Jack Abramoff, and all of a sudden, I wonder if this is all going to go away very quick.
I told I've told you I rush told you.
Everybody knows that this is going to bubble up and it's going to bubble up on both sides of the aisle.
And uh, the more that uh that you scream, I'm clean, but they're dirty, nobody in this country believes that about politicians in general.
We need to take a short break and come back.
We'll take your phone calls, the phone number to join the program, 800-282-2882.
I'm clean and you're dirty.
800 it makes me laugh just to say it.
282-2882.
My name is Tom Sullivan.
This is the Rush Limbaugh Radio Program.
Talking about uh dirty money in Washington, and uh we've got um oh uh uh uh but as we go through the program, uh there's uh I'm gonna try and get in today.
Uh you've heard uh ad nauseum about minimum wage, but but uh there's some great news studies that are out showing that minimum wage, yep, it does, it does, it does.
In fact, it does help.
It helps rich people.
It's it's just the opposite of what all the social do-gooders are uh uh uh it's a fascinating study by a very legitimate um institute that's uh done the study.
And we've got uh also some um some lessons again, because Congress is talking about uh maybe not keeping the uh the tax laws that we have uh currently permanent and and the repercussions if they don't, but right now Jack Abramoff and Harry Reed um Abramoff uh hired one of Reed's top legislative aides as a lobbyist.
Reed's office has acknowledged having routine contacts with Abramoff's lobbying partners.
Reed uh intervened on government matters in ways that Abramoff's tribal clients would deem very helpful.
Four times he sent letters pressing the Bush administration on tribal issues that had nothing to do with Nevada.
So um here's one that um although Abramoff Never donated personally to Reed.
He was smarter than that.
The lobbyists did instruct one tribe, the Louisiana Oh boy, making everybody in Louisiana mad at me today.
Uh uh Cushatas, is that right?
Cusadas?
To send five thousand dollars to Reed's tax exempt tax exempt political group.
Hmm.
At the same time, Reed uh miraculously sent a letter to the Interior Department to helpful uh be very helpful to the tribe, and uh it was about uh pressing the agency to reject a casino proposed by a potential rival.
And uh Reed, along with his Senate council, met with Abramov's deputy to discuss timing on a minimum wage bill.
And uh three weeks before the meeting, uh Ibrahim's firm, uh political action committee donated a thousand to Reed's Senate re-election committee three weeks after the meeting.
Uh the guy that they met with the donated another thousand dollars to read.
It's just uh there is uh no connection, he says.
No, no, no, there's no connection.
But they're doing this with uh with uh the Republican leadership.
They've been saying, Well, you've had contact with Jack Abramov, you've taken contr uh campaign contributions, you've written letters in their support.
It's all in your window.
But Reed has held himself out as uh it's all Republicans, and in fact he's been doing exactly the same thing that he's accusing the Republicans of doing.
Tom in uh New York City, hello, Tom, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Yeah, hello.
You know, politicians are uh need so much money for their re-elections that it's very hard for them to uh acquire it, let's say honestly, and there's been all sorts of regulations and and finance, campaign finance rules, which they try to, you know, avoid.
But most most money goes to uh media buys and advertising.
It goes for T V commercials.
T V political commercials never tell the truth.
They mislead you or they're down and out completely dishonest.
And that's the way America votes by those thirty second commercials.
I know it's it's ridiculous.
They should go back to the old way where they have to shake hands, go to uh meetings, go to public uh uh halls, uh and do a thing like that.
Yet they could use TV uh when it's like done in a uh nonpartisan way where you get a you know a few candidates from each thing, like they do with the debates.
But the the big money is goes for all that schlocky media advertising and it's not negative.
How much how much did your how much did your mayor Bloomberg just spend on his wheel?
Exactly, exactly.
And and he and there was a recent study where seventy-seven percent of New Yorkers think he's doing a good job, and sixty-three percent of blacks think he's doing a good good job in a city where it's six to one Democrats and Republicans.
Yeah.
But he still spent all that money.
Uh I you know I'm not sure.
Money talks.
Money talks.
Yeah, but you know they here's here's the problem.
You know why Abramoff went through all these uh tribes and everything else instead of dealing directly with the with the member of the uh House of Representatives or the Senate is because of the McCain Feingold super duper will fix political corruption law.
That's that's he they they can't do it the way they used to do it, so all it did was it just changed the direction on their little map quest, how do I get the money from my pocket into that elected member's pocket?
And that is why uh uh the the McCain Feingold Law did not stop it, all it did was detour it.
Still gets there.
Yeah, that's the bottom line.
It's very very creative when it comes to how they can get money.
Uh and I think if you take away the reason for that money, uh they wouldn't uh they wouldn't be going out after it.
It wouldn't be the re need for it because what are they gonna do?
Spend it on mailings?
Well, what do you what's what so Tom, but what do you if you take away that, what do you so you're saying don't let them advertise?
Don't let no political ads at all whatsoever.
Uh if you if you the T V is a medium that you need, so you have debates that are, you know, non biased debates that have you know, the uh women voters can run them to something like that to be on TV, and not so many of them.
They'll get interviewed in the newspapers.
Uh maybe they might write articles, maybe they'll give a lot more speeches at you know, larger forums of you know, Kwanas or whatever the the groups are, but you'll get to know what what their basic uh uh ideas are.
And the incumbents, you know, they have a lot of There might you know the the here's the problem, Tom.
That that might work for your local congressman or your local alderman or your local city council person.
But for a senator who's got to cover all the way from Albany up to Buffalo down to New York City.
Uh I don't know how that's uh I don't know how that's gonna work.
I got a bolt for time here, but uh no, it's free speech.
The there is the first amendment out there that does allow people to get up and buy whatever they want to buy in order to say what they want to say.
You just gotta be smart enough to figure out whether they're telling the truth.
We'll be back.
Tom Sullivan sitting in for rush.
Just watching the um the weather uh forecast, boy, you people are going to get it good, aren't you?
That uh that that nor'easter is really building up big for the Northeast.
And again, if you sit in this weekend and uh NBC's gotta be happy because they've got the the Olympics starting tonight.
But have you seen some of the the previews of the pr uh the you know uh uh uh Katie's been over there and it's sunshine and I don't think they have they're worried about the fact they don't have a lot of snow.
Maybe you can ship some over to our friends in Italy.
Talking about Jack Abramov and uh the um the innuendo about the fact that he did this and he did that uh is one thing and they're using it on the Republican leadership, but it is uh the guy that's using it, Harry Reid is is just as guilty of it.
Carol in uh Mariposa, California.
Hello, Carol, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hey, Tom, thank you for being there.
My God, this is wonderful.
I mean met Rash on his fortieth birthday cruise when the Gulf War came out.
But my thing is term limits.
I I would just I know the Congress will never do it, but if we could just get the people to say enough is enough.
Come on.
Let's get these guys out.
They've been there forever.
It's it's a tragedy.
It's an embarrassment.
Yeah, but see, look at but Carol, you you um you live in California, so you know darn right.
We do it.
You know, we and the problem is I was all for when we first came up with Califor uh California term limits for our elected representatives.
Well, I was all for it until I I'll tell you something.
That take a look at what at what's happened.
Uh there's the local uh the the the the uh the the local state senator all of a sudden uh gets termed out and shows up running for attorney general and then gets elected there and then goes from there to run for some other office after they get termed out there.
All they do is they're still uh professional career politicians that never seem to get out of the of the power seat in the um in the ruling class.
They they think they're the ruling class and so they stay in the ruling class.
And what's happened is I have seen some really, really honorable, good people that were elected representatives get bounced out and a bunch of uh lightweig come in.
So I I like the concept, but I've got some specific troubles with the fact that there are uh people out there that that are good members of uh elected bodies that are that are tossed out only because of the time.
And as much as I used to be for it, I'm I'm now to the point of going let the people decide.
Uh I know the incumbent has an advantage.
I know they can raise more money, but they don't go anywhere, Carol.
They just stay there.
They don't leave.
They just move uh the chairs around on the Titanic, you know.
No, they move on and somebody else gets in.
Now I know how bad it is.
I ran for Congress too many times.
And it it's you did just Yeah, sure enough.
Sure enough.
Do you remember Callie Coello?
Yeah.
Well, he and I are friends.
I see.
But before that it was Bernie Fisk, so I don't know how old you are.
You're friends with Tony Cuelo.
Well, I think him up.
Oh, I see.
I was uh see.
Well yeah, yeah.
I ran against him three times he had to leave, and I'm trying to remember the scandal in which he had to leave and he was a big Democrat.
There was a culture of corruption at the time, I think, on the Democratic side.
And it's not new, huh?
I know.
I understand.
And two weeks he was out of there like a shot.
Yep, and that uh that's uh That's why when when these politicians say, I'm clean, but they're dirty, it's that other party.
It doesn't uh, you know, we do have memories, folks.
Mo in Brooklyn.
Hello, Mo, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Yes, hey, Tom.
How are you deciding?
I'm doing terrific.
Listen, you know, um, I think our infrastructure has been neglected in this country.
Uh we don't get what we pay for.
When you have people building a bridge in Alaska, sure the levies in New Orleans are gonna suffer.
And a part of that is the Senate.
I think we should abolish the Senate because it's non representational.
We in New York City send out fourteen thousand dollars per citizen to the federal government that we don't see.
What do you think of that, Dominican?
Uh I look at you're you're you're talking to the choir here because I also happen to live in a in a highly taxed state like you do, and we send a lot of money out that doesn't come back.
And it it I'll tell you what you're what you're talking about, and I think this is where John Baehner is going to if the he has an opportunity here.
Let me put it this way.
He has an opportunity to do something about these earmarks.
And the earmarks are, I think, what is um the problem, and and so does Boehner.
And and what they are are those things where they the the argument is, well, your local congressman knows better about where a bridge is needed or where a traffic light is needed or where there's some sort of special need that's needed.
But you've seen the numbers, and the Republicans uh I mean the th sorry, I'm I carry a Republican card in my wallet, but I but I'm so disappointed in their fiscal mismanagement, and they say, Well, it was because of Katrina, the biggest disaster ever to hit our country.
It was because of the Iraq War.
It was because of this.
They can come up with all the excuses they want, but they've also been spending and spending and spending in other areas so much, and they're so proud of the fact that they reduced the increase in spending by one point five percent.
Whoop they do.
And and I'm with you.
They're they're not taking care of what is needed.
They're not taking care of the of the basic things that most citizens are looking for our government to do.
They the the we don't look, I don't look to the government for a lot of things, but they do need to put in the roads and the sewers and the infrastructure and provide us with a defense of military and and local police and local fire, and that's what they need to work on.
But instead they've got all these do good programs that they're spending your money on, and as a result, I'm with you, Mo.
The infrastructure in this country is falling apart.
Well, Tom, I I agree with you on that.
I mean, but I think it's more of an abuse of the Senate with guys like Stevens.
And of course, we have uh what?
How many registered lobbyists are there in the country?
When I was a kid, there were two hundred.
It was a rare experience to be a lobbyist.
Now every ex-politician becomes a lobbyist.
And they violate those the uh term limits of uh how long you have to wait.
I mean, our country is being bought and sold.
Our roads were built for national defense.
Hey, not only r not only that, yeah, and that was Eisenhower back in the fifties, uh, and and how many new ro not how many new uh uh interstates or highways do you have around?
I most people have next to none over the last fifty years.
Let me give you another example.
This was I did this on my local show yesterday.
There's this uh the story going uh locally of these two women that were um being attacked on the on the freeway.
They were driving down the freeway and the and this uh crazy man uh comes along and ramming their car and and bashing them, and they were they were going home at late at night after a George Strait concert.
And uh there were six highway uh California highway patrolmen in the area, but all six of them were tied up on uh booking people in jails or traffic accidents, wherever it might be in this in this fairly big area.
And what came out of this from the California highway patrol is uh they were apologetic up one side and down the other, they weren't able to respond and catch this guy.
But what came out of it was California, and I and you need to check this in in Nebraska, you need to check this in Michigan, you need to check this in Florida.
California has the same number of California highway patrol officers today that were on duty in the nineteen in nineteen seventy.
The population of California has almost doubled, and yet we still have the same number of highway patrolmen.
So my point is you yeah, you not only the roads and bridges, but but your public safety, your basic function of government is to defend you, defend you federally with a military, defend you locally with a with a fire department and with a police department.
And if you check and do a little homework and nose around a little bit, find out how many fire and how many police are in your community today versus the number 20 years ago, 30 years ago, and then check that versus the population.
And so here are these people that I mean, I don't like uh uh see I like the idea of fewer uh patrol cars behind me so that I can zoom down the road without fear of getting a ticket until you or your family or your wife or your daughter or your son is being attacked by somebody, and and the old line of well, where are they when when you need them?
Well, there are fewer of them today, percentage-wise than there was uh thirty years ago.
So the yeah, you're right.
The the basic functions of government are not being taken care of.
And this is uh uh whether it's the bridge, the potholes, the failing electric grid that's uh affecting the northeast, affecting the West Coast, or the or the or the basic function of public safety, it's not being kept up.
Check it.
Go to your local uh your local uh districts and find out just how many.
Call your local police department and they'll tell you.
They know exactly what their staffing is versus uh twenty, thirty years ago.
Short break, we'll be right back.
The phone number to join the program 800-282-2882.
My name is Tom Sullivan.
This is the Rush Limbaugh Radio Program.
Well, I'll tell you, New York's doing something about this uh public safety business.
They've um the New York PD, NYPD has added um the remember the uh Dukes of Hazard uh Dodge Chargers?
They uh they've they've bought a bunch of them.
They bought uh they're adding the muscle cars, fifteen of them to their fleet.
I'm sorry.
I've why?
I mean, why would the New York no, I'm talking New York City police department.
They say that yeah, it's a car that uh this car does a hundred and ten miles an hour.
Where in New York City can you do a hundred and ten miles an hour?
Even if you well, I know the cabbies do, but but they but they've got special uh cab packages.
They even you go down the West End Highway, you got I mean that that th even if there's nobody out there, it's three o'clock in the morning on a Sunday morning, there's still the road can't you you'll go off the road going a hundred and ten miles an hour.
But they're about I don't know, I mean I can see the uh state police having them.
They have doors are you going through the window?
I don't know if you have if the doors open or not.
I think you have to go through the window because these are the old dukes of hazard cards.
Um Kirk in Phoenix, hello Kirk, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Tom Sullivan.
Good day to you, Tom.
Good day to you, sir.
I was just wondering if you were to make all donations hard money and do away with limitations so that everybody could know that George Soros gave ten million dollars to whoever he wanted to, or anybody like that, would that cure some of the uh uh corruption and all these problems that we're having, or would that just open up a whole new can of worms?
Um I think it would help.
I I don't know if it would I don't think it'll cure anything, but at least it it is you talk about transparency, and everybody keeps talking in Washington now about transparency, and Boehner's talking about transparency.
I think that's the way to go.
That way, and the way you do it, and and I don't know uh about in Arizona if you have this or not, uh, but uh in California we've got and and well, I know there's oh uh what open secrets dot com smart vote dot com or org,
there's a couple of sites like that that keep track of so you can look up anybody right up to the you know the night before an election and see not only how much money they raised, but exactly who gave them what and how much they gave them.
And even the groups that say citizens for a better America, you click on on their donation because you don't know if who that is, and you've and it and you find out who they are.
And I'm I think it would I think it would I'm sorry, I I think it would be phenomenal deal because you would be able to, you know, use that against your opponent.
I know that the opponent wouldn't like it, and that will that way you would be more I think restrictive on who you're allowed gonna allow to give you money, maybe.
There was a guy there there was a guy running against Arnold Schwarzenegger for for governor in the recall.
He's he's the current lieutenant governor in California.
His name's Cruz Bustamonte.
Uh because of that open transparency and because of the fact that it was on a on websites that anybody could pick up, we saw all these Indian tribes giving huge amounts of money.
In fact, he later, I believe the uh they called him on the carpet and said you violated the uh uh political laws and everything else, but it was all disclosed, and so people knew.
And I I'm with you, Kirk.
If people know, that's all I want to know.
I uh because otherwise, what's going on right now is like my f this one friend of mine who used to be in Congress, he retired uh early, young guy, he he did three terms, and that was his name, Doug O. He told me I could quote him.
And he said, he said, as a member of Congress, if you have money you want to give to me, there are ways to figure out how to do it.
He says, You can quote me on that.
And and and Doug O. He was as honest and straightforward and guy who didn't need money, he's he's filthy rich himself.
I think that I think if he does, but that's the way to that's the way to do it is just to say, look it.
Why put it in the shadows?
Why have it go through?
Jack Abramov tells an Indian tribe to give money to this political organization so it gets back to you so that you get honored with the money?
Uh uh, it's too hard to follow.
I'm with you, Kirk.
Put it right out there directly.
Nothing to hide.
You've got nothing to be ashamed of for taking money from whoever because they back and support and stand for the same things that you have been touting that you believe in.
I think America would just jump on that and hard before.
I do too.
And I don't care if it's hard money, soft money, I don't care what it is, as long as it's disclosed that uh that you're running for office, and here are the people that gave you contributions, directly or indirectly, have it there so it's transparent so we can all see what it's about.
I like the idea.
Hey, Kirk, thanks for the call.
Appreciate it.
Joe in Memphis.
Hello, Joe, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hey Tom, how are you doing?
I appreciate you taking my call.
You bet.
Um I just wondered, it's a short question.
Have you heard anybody expressing gratitude from that building in Los Angeles for Bush having saved their lives?
Now, did you see uh did you see the news conference that uh the mayor Antonio Vargosa held yesterday afternoon?
I just heard that he he was surprised that uh Well here's here's the problem.
I I heard that too, but then uh his staff came out and said, Well, actually the White House did call us uh yesterday and tell us that they were gonna make this announcement.
Uh but but uh I thought, because Antonio Vargosa is is the darling up and coming uh Democratic Latino candidate for the future.
And I thought he was going to come out and take advantage of uh Bush bashing, do some sort of bush bashing.
Yeah.
And instead, no, I gotta give him credit.
He was uh he did not he did not do that.
He came out, but he did exactly as a good democrat is uh is known to do.
He said, Well, you know what we need is we need more money.
That's what we need.
That'll solve it.
And so his point was he needs more money for funding for homeland security for Los Angeles.
And uh maybe he uh maybe he's right in Los Angeles, I don't know, but uh no, nobody um I I haven't heard anybody in Los Angeles thanking anybody in the White House for saving their lives.
But you're right.
In fact, I saw on local television this morning here in Los Angeles there was a um a guy interviewed who's on the top floor of the what's now the U.S. bank building was a library tower building.
And uh and he he he looked pretty grim about having his office on the top floor of that building in LA, knowing that that was in fact a target.
Which brings up the whole question about should they tell us about what the targets are anyway.
Hey, Joe, short break, we'll be back.
Tom Sullivan's sitting in for rush.
I gotta tell you folks something uh this this is this show is just a gas to do because I get to uh I get to tap the vast library research staff at the Limbaugh Institute and uh the memory division.
I just uh I just checked in with them and they uh they were uh they were telling me we were talking about the California Highway Patrol, and I live in California, and I I I I could not remember the names.
I said, I said, what happened to the days when chips were uh patrolling uh the highways and byways?
Why, those were the days when uh uh uh everybody was safe and uh mothers could go out on the streets with their children.
And I said, What were their names?
What were their names?
But the library staff of the memory division of the library staff said uh Ponch and John, their call signs 7 Mary 3 and 4, and they worked out of the Bakersfield office.
I had no idea.
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