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Dec. 23, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 23, 2005, Friday, Hour #3
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Thanks for reminding me about that, Sturdley.
I um uh what am I about a half hour late here and getting to my John Thewan example on party discipline?
Mind is racing too fast.
I'm uh I'm I'm I can't get my mind off what people are getting me for Christmas.
Hi Thomas be a little kid at Christmas because everybody says we can't get anything for you.
You're not possible to buy for.
Whatever you want, you can get yourself and probably already have.
I said, yep, so it's a challenge.
Go to it.
Friday, let's roll, folks.
Live from the Southern Command in Sunny, South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
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Yahoo!
Here we go.
Final hour of open line Friday.
Here's the number if you would like to be part of it.
800-282-2882.
The email address is rush at EIB net.com.
Hang on, a couple of Maureen Dowd sound bites here.
And I from she was on um MSNBC last year with Andrea Mitchell as well.
And uh it's so obvious what what poor Maureen's problem is.
I want to be respectful here.
Uh life could change dramatically overnight.
It's about as diplomatic way as I can phrase it.
At any rate, let me let me get the here, because you're right, Snerdley's right.
I forgot to give my example.
We had a we had a good call on party discipline.
Why has Bush lost control of the party?
Why are why is this big problem Republicans in the Congress, particularly the Senate?
Why are they bowling and voting against him on things that he wants?
And I talk about party discipline and uh president, if you keep these people line, challenge their their uh uh chairmanships or memberships on committees that they treasure, uh value, don't campaign for them when he run for re-election.
Uh there used to be people that do that.
Uh LBJ did it.
Uh he was he was an enforcer.
Democrats to this day do it.
Let me tell you what happened to the Democrat.
I'm I you know before I even knew this, I knew it.
I mean I'm out there uh well from the day this program starts in 1988, and I'm telling people uh how it works if you get elected as a Democrat to the House of Representatives.
Now, this is back in the days when it was run by Tom Foley.
Is he still, by the way, is he still flying on commercial traffic and taking the uh the lunches and dinners that they serve off the airplane with him.
Uh oh, they don't serve lunch and dinner on commercial flights.
Well, I'm sorry I've been asked.
I I uh you are more informed than I, but uh Tom Foley, we used to be speaker of the House, and there was a story he'd fly commercially and he'd get off the plane, he'd ask other people if they're gonna eat their lunch or dinner or whatever they serve, and he said, No, he can I have it.
Hey, walk off the plane with it.
Well, he was speaker, then there was uh Fort Worthless Jim was speaker.
And uh when a Democrat got elected, a Democrat was brought in to the Speaker's Office or some underling of the speaker and said, all right, you got two options here.
If you want to go anywhere as a Democrat in this place, you vote the way we tell you.
And if you do, we'll make sure you get re-elected, campaign contributions from outside your district, all kinds of lobbying goodies.
But if you don't, if you want to come up here and be a star and you want to come up and be an independent contractor, you're gonna be here for two years, and the two years that you were here, nobody will be able to find you or talk to you or what have you.
So one day, we're watching 60 Minutes, about four years after I mentioned this, and a newly elected Democrat, well he's been there, I guess, second year, second term, Luis Gutieris from Chicago, does an interview on 60 minutes virtually described this very same thing happening to him when he was elected.
So we tried to get him on the program and we're gonna interview him for the limbow letter, and he backed out.
And I haven't heard from him since.
I don't know if he's still a Democrat.
I don't know if he's still in Congress, but since that 60 minutes interview, we haven't heard from Luis Gutiérrez.
At least not, I can't remember at all.
Certainly not in a prominent way.
The Democrats, the point is, they they operate that way.
I don't think that happens.
Now, delay in the on the Republican side, delay was called the hammer, but the way Delay went around and did things was he rounded up votes on the floor.
I mean, he played his own version of hardball, and he got his he got uh he got good party discipline in the House.
But note the Democrats, the hammer, of course, when when Delay did it, it was somehow it was unfair and under the table tactics, it was devious.
It's a standard operating procedure for Democrats.
Now, party discipline can also come back and bite you.
You remember the base closings commission.
It seems like the base closing commission is out there working every year closing military bases, because we're still under the assumption we're spending the peace dividend, military bases that we don't need.
So in this latest round, earlier this year of base closures was a base in South Dakota.
John Thune, newly elected Republican senator who uh defeated Puff Dashel, who has again really a just a pathetic piece in the Washington Post today.
If you missed our discussions the first hour, if you missed it, you can consult Rush Limbaugh.com later this afternoon when we update the site, see what was said.
But Thune was outraged.
I mean, he was livid, and he threatened to vote against the president on a specific I forget what the piece of legislation was, but it was important.
And it was it was he was uh uh could it have been the same thing?
Voinovich was was it it was it a oh was it a confirmation of somebody?
Is it Bolton?
It might have been it might have I might have been the Bolton nomination.
John Thune had been as as reliable as everybody who campaigned for him and voted for him thought he would be.
But when they it was the Bolton issue, and when they and when but when they closed his military base on him, you know, we were I remember sitting here and uh emailing some friends that said this just doesn't happen.
Close a military base in some Democrat state.
Don't close a military base in one of your ally states, a new ally that you worked hard to get elected, why do this?
And the White House said, this is not political, we are not getting involved in which bases are closed.
Well, said to myself, well, you could.
Your commander in chief, you're the president of the United States, and and and so i i far from there being party unity or discipline here, uh more often that here the president's gone out and campaigned for Arlen Spector, and that had people, you know, scratching their heads, and now he's gonna go up campaign.
Lincoln Chafey, uh, that's got people scratching their heads.
Schwarzenegger's fit to be tied because the White House went out there on a fundraising trip right in the middle of his crunch time fundraising for his ballot initiatives out there, and it's one of the reasons Schwarzenegger said, all right, screw you, I'm gonna go to Democrat chief of staff.
Uh, which he's done.
So I don't disagree with the whole concept of party unity and and and party discipline, because it can work against you.
You know, I mean it it and you can you you count on loyalty and you get it, and if you don't end up noticing it and rewarding the people loyal to you, they're gonna strike back.
Uh but the people we're talking about trying to hold in line are not the John Thewens.
If somebody could come up with a way, uh I the the example was given by Rick in Boston of Olympia Snow.
She's on some important committee that she no doubt treasures.
Just tell her you're gonna lose it.
Or have have frist or somebody to Senate leadership say Senator Snow, if your sandbag is on this again, we are going to take your chairmanship away.
Well, you know what would happen?
The biggest fire storm would erupt in the mainstream media because uh, of course the news would get out as it should, and the pressure would be brought to bear and news would be reported about Republicans as they they've now descended to subhuman levels.
Even though Democrats, they you can go out and listen, get Doris Kearns Goodwin on a on any radio TV show, get her talking about LBJ.
You will hear just these kinds of stories, and you will hear her marvel over how he was able to do it and how wonderful at it he was, what total control he had over the party when he was president and in the Senate.
But there would be hell to pay if something like that happened on the uh on the Republican side.
And I'm just telling you that experience is that when there's hell to pay in the media on the Republican side, there's a genuine general tent to uh uh uh tendency to cave in to the pressure being brought to bear by the Washington culture.
So it's not that I'm opposed to party discipline.
I just the worst thing you can do is try to enforce it and then cave when the pressure mounts after you do it.
And I at this point am not certain that it would uh it would hold up if they uh if they did try it.
Let's take a brief time out.
We'll come back and continue right after this on the EIB network.
Stay with us.
Want to read an email to you that I uh that I just got this uh answer to this could be a public service.
Dear Rush, I too enjoy a good cigar as you do each and every day at the EIB network.
But I can't stand the smell of stale smoke that gets into the carpets, the clothing inside my house.
I see you smoking in your studios on the ditto cam.
How do you or do you keep the stale odors out?
Joel Foreman wrote the email.
Joel, there's a basic premise that you've got wrong here, and that is that there's anything stale about cigar smoke at any time.
No matter when you smell it, no matter where it is, it's heavenly.
But I understand that some people disagree with that.
So we have a system uh I actually have a different system at home that we have here at the EIB network.
Here at the EIB network, we have a basic suction system.
You people watching this program of the ditto cam have probably always noticed that the smoke from this cigar goes straight up.
This is because there is a giant fan that's sucking the smoke and it vents outside in the parking lot.
Uh aside from my car being here, this is how people know I'm here.
They smell it in the parking lot because it takes it out there.
And such it's not in here long enough to get inside the fabric or the carpeting or uh any of that, uh, nor much on my on my clothes.
At home, you can't quite do that.
Uh as I use a different system at home.
Well, you I'm not gonna have a giant fan in the ceiling that this fan is is recessed why you can't hear it.
But at home, you'd have to have a big enough fan to suck it all out of there and send it down.
It's not what happens.
So we uh got together with uh an actual electronic engineer uh and uh an HVAC engineer and designed a system called thermal transference.
And what thermal transference basically does me.
The the room in which I have this in three rooms of the house.
Uh what what what happens is that the floor area of the room is flooded with cold air.
Now, the presence of human beings in the room warms the air.
The air rises and takes the smoke with it out of the house.
There are no fans.
There are no uh filters or any of that.
It just vanishes.
Uh I have been smoking in my library uh for well uh 1997.
And uh people will come over and and uh friends come in and have a cigar and they, you know, this room doesn't smell like cigars.
I just smile and I say, yeah, it must be because it's so big, I don't know.
Because they get into a detailed explanation of it.
But the bottom line is you come over, you could sniff any of the fabric or the sofas or whatever, and you wouldn't smell a cigar at all.
The fabric smells new.
Uh and it's uh it's uh some some restaurants have used it uh in the past.
It's not it's not certainly exclusive to me, but I looked into it and I and I found it because it's not noisy, there are no filters, there's no recirculation.
These systems that you know suck the smoke of a room in through a filter and then send it back in.
I mean, that that's good for about ten minutes, and then the filter becomes infected, and you've got the odor of the filter coming back into the room, and I didn't want that.
Uh so uh thermal transference is uh is a uh and the the guy that designed it for me is uh a native of Minneapolis, Minnesota, lives a lot of the time in uh in Hawaii.
Uh I'm not gonna give you, I don't want this guy's phone to be ringing off the hook here because he's retired.
Uh but uh he had a design company that worked on solutions like this for uh for a number of people.
And as I say, I've got it in in three different rooms, and and uh leave it on for three hours after the conclusion of the cigar smoking, and you'll not have one shred of evidence that uh cigar smoking is going on in the room.
It's not something you go buy at a store, it's not a device that sits on the floor.
It's it has to be incorporated into and it's different from, but it's made a part of uh your central cooling system or central air conditioning system.
Uh and it is it is kind of complicated, and it uh it does require its own pipes, uh cooling pipes and and things, uh requires its own vents for the air in that room.
I mean, most people's vents are on the wall on the ceiling or something.
These are not.
These are hidden and recessed uh basically not on the floor but very near walls uh of the floor on the on the sides of walls, but they don't look like vents.
You would never see them.
And you can't feel the air.
That's this is you can't there's not a when I say is a constant flow of cold air, you can't stand next to a vent actually well you'd have to be real quiet and put your hand and you could smell it, but there are so many of them in the room that the it just floods the room with this cold air, which rises.
Even if there's not a human being in the room, it'll eventually rise.
Uh even working in tandem, that's just the trick though, m working having it work in tandem with an air conditioning system, it's all also putting cooling air in the room because this will tend to warm the room up.
So it became a challenge.
Okay, down here in Florida in July and August, what do you do to keep this thing working?
Um and it it took about six months trial and error to get it fixed, but now it is it's just ideal.
It is it is flawless.
But here where you're watching me, it's a simple suction technique.
Uh simple simple fan taking the smoke out of here.
Here is uh Justin in Brookfield, Ohio.
Hi Justin, welcome to the program.
Hey Rush, I'm with a unique dilemma here.
I know you've talked about dealing with liberal family members and democrats over the holidays, but the family members that I'm dealing with are my parents, and uh I don't know if I should just kind of like shut up and go along to avoid, you know, getting into arguments that might have other repercussions in the house or if I should actually, you know, actively engage them.
We have encountered this.
We we we've encountered this before and we've uh our advice has been sought on this.
Let me ask you a couple of questions.
Yeah, sure.
Uh you you live at home year round, right at sixteen, so you're not okay.
Is this a daily thing?
Your parents sit around and talk politics and it's frustrating to you?
Um it happens or not maybe not daily, but every couple days.
My I mean my dad's a Bush basher, so we get into arguments over that a lot.
He he's the kind of democrat that blames Bush for everything in the world that happens.
Okay.
Well but but so this is not something that just happens occasionally, some you're putting well and you're arguing with him now.
Right, but it's it's having like the arguments are getting worse.
Um sometimes they can cause like, you know, hostility in other parts, like other things.
Like what?
I want to know what I'm dealing with here.
Well, if my dad's mad at me for polit or over politics, he'll uh kind of punish me by making me do more around the house, things like that.
Mm-hmm.
S taking out the trash, that sort of stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just more than normal.
Yeah.
Well, about that, uh and I'm I'm not trying to be funny.
I'm I'm uh with this one.
Don't let that sweat ya.
Right.
That that's not gonna hurt you being made to do more around that.
That's that's gonna end up actually helping you.
Uh uh having to do chores and things like that.
Uh you'll you'll understand uh as a parent later on down the line about these kinds of things.
That's that's now if it if it becomes the form of punishment though, if it becomes a form of punishment, which it sounds like it is, then you know you you you you might as long as you know why it's happening, you can let it bounce off.
I I think the the key for you here is and I can't I I one thing I'm not gonna do is take the place of your parents.
That th th that's they're they're your parents and it's their right and role and responsibility to uh uh be I I don't want to cause a war w between you and your parents.
I would never assume to be a surrogate parent in this situation, but I think that uh uh as long as these arguments that you have are not shaking your beliefs or the confidence in your beliefs, uh I would I would do my best to just try to internally laugh at it and maybe externally out loud laugh about it.
Uh it the m the more that you let it get to you, the more anybody, parent or not, will see to it that it gets to you and it'll become a way to push your buttons.
And you don't want people you you don't want people to be able to push your buttons.
So I should just continue, you know, getting into these conversations, laugh about things that are, you know, when he blames Bush for something that obviously isn't has anything to do with his his policies, I should just kind of laugh at it, continue my what I've been doing lately.
Uh yeah, I mean there's other techniques that you could employ.
I mean you could you can engage him in discussion too on this and and you could uh you know I don't know what your relationship with your parents is.
I d I don't know if it's strained at at uh at best.
Well no, they're I mean they're they're good parents.
It's just there's there's disagreements.
It I kind of feel like my parents are enamored with the Democratic Party like they they still consider the Democratic Party the working man's party when we know that the liberals taking over and tradition that dies hard.
Um, one thing you are you on the debate team at school?
Uh we don't have one.
I wish we did, but we're we're kind of a small town.
We have about like five four hundred, five hundred kids in our high school, so it's too bad because you get on a debate team and take your trophies home for winning.
Uh and uh and look at to take a break here.
Can you hang on just a second, Justin?
Because there's uh a little more information I need to glean here.
Yeah, sure in in parceling out how to how to deal with it.
This is something I have not faced.
I disagree with my parents over things like college and that sort of stuff.
Back in just a second.
Okay, we're back with uh with Justin in Brookfield, Ohio.
He's an oppressed 16-year-old uh who's living with uh parents that are uh uh very much liberal and uh and and disagree with him and argue with him about it.
Question I have for you at the outset do any of these arguments cause you to question what you believe?
Are they shaking your beliefs in what you hold dear?
Actually, no, they're doing the exact opposite.
They're strengthening.
I mean, I've gotten to the point where they're strengthened.
I'm I'm putting my beliefs online and um I have a blog and my uncle's actually been the one going he's been going on there under names like Crazy Liberal and targeting me on my blog.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wa hold it a minute.
Just a minute.
Just a minute.
You have a website, a blog.
Right.
It's uh right on the right dot com.
Right on the right, but wait, wait, wait, you have an uncle?
Your dad or your mother's sister brother.
He's my mother's brother.
You've your mother's brother is harassing you on your own blog?
Right.
I mean he'll he's go he'll go up there and he'll put things like he'll put talking points because my parents know about it, but they're not too involved, but when my uncle found out about it, he's been going on there just to mess with me now.
An uncle messing with the nephew's blog.
This is why am I surprised these are liberals?
I I I'm I'm Justin, I'll tell you what, uh this is hey you have to understand something.
You you're dealing with people who do not have much of a sense of humor when this stuff comes up, right?
They don't laugh much about politics or these kinds of issues, and they don't tolerate humor well about it, right?
Right.
All right.
So that's one of the reasons.
W next time, next time that you are assigned additional chores or work, I want you to get a sign.
Get go make a sign somewhere and have it in your room.
And when you're assigned this extra work, do it carrying this sign, and the sign says violating child labor laws.
Or do it or have a sign that says unfair oppression in the home.
As liberals, they will identify with the violation of child labor and the word oppression.
They that's a buzzword for liberals.
And if if if if you walk around as an oppressed person, um I I I I think it'll smoke 'em out.
It will not make them sympathize with you.
It'll make them even angrier because you'll be turning their own belief system back on them and challenging uh because they won't they don't believe in oppression or child labor anywhere, but it's okay for them to do it on their son.
And now he th now your uncle can come taunt you on your own blog.
Rather the the the right thing to do would be to encourage you in all of this.
The right thing to do would be to praise you and say your initiative and and and to encourage you as you uh as you uh go through life this way, rather than trying to tear you down.
Um what what you you live in in Brookfield, Ohio.
You know, make make up a sign that says uh what's different about this from Abu Grab.
Oh, that's great, Roger.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I mean d do have a bunch of series of signs, and then of course you've got to behave in such a way that will get you the additional punishment so that you can use the signs that you've made.
Right.
But understand they're not gonna they're not gonna find this funny.
They're they're gonna they're gonna think you're a smart aleck, uh and they may discipline you further.
And so forth.
I just I find this I I was asking Snerdly during the break, can you believe parents would treat a kid this way?
And I stopped myself.
I said, of course they're liberals.
I mean, it's not it's not that they're they're they're acting like bad parents, it's just when political discussions get evolved.
It's really my dad.
My dad just gets angry.
He's he's not ready to handle an argument with his son.
Well, okay, now w w give me an example um of of the last time this happened, an argument where he starts talking about whatever, and what do you say back?
What does he say that would you say?
Well, I mean, it's really just like say if I uh if I got an argument over the computer, he would say, Well, of course of course you'd uh fight over something stupid like that because you vote or you like Bush, you have to be stupid.
You're like Bush.
Bush wants to get rid of minimum wage, and I'm like telling him, well, you know, if you go on things, Bush is the one giving you tax cuts.
Bush is the one, you know, with the with the economic program that's now.
Okay, so what do you say?
When he said Bush when he says that Bush wants to get rid of the minimum wage and Bush is stupid, and and and Bush is cutting economic programs, what do you what do you say back?
I just I try I try to tell him like look at the economic stimulus, look at the tax cuts.
Look, look at the tax cuts that are putting more money in your pocket and and look at the economic programs that are giving an e c or uh a boom that you know you're receiving the effects of, but you're not willing to admit it.
Even though I know what's coming next, what does he say when you say that?
Oh, I mean he at this point he's just telling me, you know, uh you don't know the facts.
You're stupid.
Right.
You can't you know of course you're citing facts.
And he and he tells me I or you know you're right.
You tells him that you don't tell you you don't have the facts.
It's it's he that doesn't have the facts.
Well uh it it it the I think you ought to actually feel very proud of yourself that you're not buckling under this uh despite some of these efforts.
Uh this this is quite insulting uh for you to be told you're stupid.
Um it's they just they consider me uneducated and they don't realize how much time I spend researching these issues.
I mean on the web, there's all these resources available and I'm res researching the issues and I'm I'm realizing I'm looking through and realizing which talking points are wrong and they can't seem to realize that you know a teenager would be able to find all this information.
Yeah, uh I know, and the I I look I remember w when I was your age, I had arguments with my dad about all kinds not this stuff, but I had arguments with him about uh things he thought I should do that I wasn't doing, and it of course made me lame and and this sort and I was intimidated.
I mean it's it you you don't most sixteen year olds are not gonna sit uh sit there and get into a knockdown drag out back and forth with their father because their father is the you know, the role model, the authority figure in the uh in the house, and so uh I've I bit the bullet uh more often than not and let my behavior uh serve as my response.
Uh yeah, my b big one of the biggest arguments I had with my dad was about college.
He's he told me you w he gave me a laundry list one day of the things that were gonna happen to me and not happen to me because I didn't go to college.
I won't bother you with the list.
Uh but but uh it was all rooted by the way in the fact that he felt as a failure as a parent because I was not willing uh to go to college and advance myself and and uh he he felt he was unable to get through to me, and so he was a failure.
Uh and and it that bothered him and it also bothered him that that uh that he just thought that I just was was too much of of a maverick and independent, didn't know what was good for me yet thought that I did.
Uh and while while but i every time he told me these things, uh you know, i just like when I was fired seven times and told you don't have what it takes to see in this business, uh if you want to stay in radio, go into sales, I I just I never doubted myself.
Uh I got upset that others doubted me, but I didn't doubt myself.
I think I'm in the same situation here, Rush.
I mean, my parents aren't bad parents, but when it comes to politics, they disagree.
They they're letting me do it.
They're not like prohibiting me from you know, expressing my opinions online and stuff.
But they just don't agree with me and for and there's just this sense that they wish I would do something else.
And that kind of disappoints me, but it doesn't make me question what I'm doing, because I know I'm on the right path.
I know that you know I have the facts and I know what I'm doing, and even if they disagree with me, I don't I mean, I think that they're not going to oppose what I do in any real way, but they're gonna disagree with it and I wish there was, you know, all right.
Well, in that case, in that in that case, if if if the key is that they're not really trying to suppress what you're doing, they're just arguing with your dad.
He's just arguing with you about it, but he's not really trying to stop you.
Your uncle's toying around with you on your blog, but besides that, you your dad is not taking your computer away from you.
He actually got me a laptop.
He actually got me a lap oh well, okay.
So I I I will wager you that secretly your dad admires you.
Uh uh, I think he he likes I mean, my mom even said she was impressed with I was doing even though she disagrees with me.
My dad, on the other hand, hasn't really said anything much about what I'm doing.
He won't, but that's you've argued with me about politics.
You're obviously a bright guy.
You're well you're well adjusted, uh you're you're on the right track.
They feel proud about that.
But you know, it's it's it's hard for people to tell people that they love them.
It's hard for people to tell people that they're proud of him.
Uh and and but I guarantee you he is, because otherwise he wouldn't be getting to the laptop, but he he's he's um he he wouldn't he wouldn't be challenging the way he is.
He'd be trying to keep you from doing what you're doing.
He'd take your computer away from you.
He would he would uh monitor what you're reading and take that away from it.
He's not doing any of that.
So the way to deal with this is humor.
Just get those boards.
You know, get those signs up.
All right.
You know, and and and uh and and use that as a way of of making light of it.
And never I'm sure you love your parents, right?
Right.
So tell them that.
All right.
When you get into these arguments, Dad, I love you.
Uh but you know I've I've looked into it, and I just don't find that that and don't tell him he's wrong.
Don't don't say, Dad, you're right.
I just don't see it that way, Dad.
I'm finding other things that that make me think otherwise and and uh well tell him he's wrong if you want to, but but that that's up to you.
That's the feel of the situation that you're in.
But uh, you know, h he's still your parent, and and I'm not, so I'm just trying to advise you here how to have a little fun with this with this uh with this circumstance that might be a better way of responding than getting into real arguments at the dinner table or whenever it happens.
All right.
Thanks, Rush.
All right.
Let us know how this uh works out.
Are you expecting trouble here over the holidays?
You got other relatives coming in, or you're going to other relatives' places?
Um I'm spending some time with my relatives.
I mean, trouble trouble's always around the corner.
Things things come up.
I'm sure my uncle would do something else just today.
He posted something on my website, so I'm sure he'll he'll probably do it again.
Say what I'm gonna do.
Here's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna help you out.
What have you have you gotten him uh you got Christmas presents yet?
Um well the laptop was an early present there.
No, have you gotten them what you're doing?
Oh, them Christmas presents yet.
No, I haven't.
Oh well, you have come to the right place, because here's what we're gonna do.
I'm going does your dad use a computer?
Uh not often.
Ah he only uses it for like fantasy sports and in the fall.
Fantasy sport even better.
Even better.
Uh because we're not only we're gonna solve your problem, we're gonna promote family togetherness.
I am going to make you a complimentary subscriber, Rush Limbaud.com and my newsletter.
And I'm also going to offer I'm gonna let you offer your dad his own complimentary complimentary subscription as well, if he wants it.
All right.
If he doesn't, he can come read the website with you over your shoulders and you can read this website my and and and listen to the program on tape or however you want to do it on the computer uh uh together.
And so uh I'm not trying to be the focus here.
I I'm I this is the that's not the point because I can imagine does my name come up in these uh discussions?
Um not very often, but I mean it has before all right.
Well i uh it it it it may now.
Uh so but I'm gonna give you this complimentary prescription subscription and you can you can uh uh say dad, look uh uh and by the way, show him other things that you use on the computer as well.
But the main thing is after I give you one, I want it you're gonna have access to a second one.
Okay that your mom and dad can uh also use at no charge.
Uh if he's worried about the minimum wage being cut, you can tell him you told me about that, and that I don't want this to cost him anything.
All right.
All right.
Show that we conservatives are generous and giving people.
Uh and that uh we we we want people to you know not just believe us because we say it.
We want people to believe us because it is.
And here's a resource you can go and find out what is and so forth.
I doubt that he will do there.
Maybe some resistance here, but it's something at least you can offer.
All right.
In addition to whatever else you get.
So hold on, we'll get you all of the information necessary to make this happen for your prescription subscription and for your dad's and uh uh uh obviously.
Let I'm gonna give you three.
You give one to your uncle.
Okay.
All right.
Hang on, we'll get to you with all the uh information on how to do this right after this break.
Don't and don't hang up the phone out there, Justin.
We'll be back, folks.
Stay with us.
Now, Justin, just remember in all of this, don't don't be disrespectful.
Have fun with it.
I your parents are your parents, and I am not in any way attempting to uh step in between the relationship that you have with him.
I would never presume to do that.
One thing you might do, you might consider you might consider telling uh your dad that you have fired off a letter to Senator McCain claiming that you are being tormented and humiliated as a prisoner in your own home.
And say it with a smile on your face.
The Abu Grab sign will say much the same thing.
But it just have a little fun with it.
Honor your mother and father and and make sure that you know just a quiet respect is what you need here.
Uh and and you're gonna be out of the house soon.
Uh and it's all I think a great educational experience for you because whether your dad knows it or not, he is uh making you think.
And he's helping you to go out and dig up even more information to confirm and validate what you already believe.
Uh Dixie in uh Sacramento.
Welcome to the program.
Nice to have you with us.
Hi, Rush.
Uh I think that this experience that Justin's going through at home is excellent experience for college because I have a daughter who attends uh a local university here who shall remain nameless.
Um and she's a junior, and we've had many discussions about papers she's had to write for school about abortion, pornography, all these other different issues.
And she has uh a conservative point of view.
And she said, Mom, I can't possibly write that and get a good grade.
I have to write what I know the professor believes to get the grade, and believe me, I can do it.
And she does.
She does exactly that she wants the grade.
It hasn't changed her beliefs at all.
It hasn't weakened them, it hasn't changed them.
She's just gotten smarter about how she has to write the paper.
Right.
So you're saying this is going to be good training for Justin for what's to come later.
Higher education, yes.
Well, no doubt about that.
I I know I know students find their way around these obstacles uh in in a number of different ways.
Some of them argue with the teachers, some of them write what the teachers are naturally going to disagree with and so forth.
There's uh there's really any number of ways to do this, and it's it's it's all dependent on really what the specifics of each circumstance are, which is why it is difficult to offer blanket advice in these circumstances, which is why I seek as much data and evidence as possible for treading into these dangerous waters, folks, because it's dangerous waters.
I mean, it's one thing to you know tell a husband how to argue with a wife.
I mean, that you can't win anyway.
But when his parents, you know, it's uh it's a it's it's a much touchier thing.
Um before we uh get out of here, uh I want to take a brief moment here.
Uh Thanksgiving is uh by definition when people sit around and give thanks.
For some reason I'm always more compelled to do that uh this time of year, always have been.
And uh over the course of the year, I try to to say the same thing that I'm gonna say now, uh, which is thank you, uh and to let you know how much all of you are appreciated and loved by all of us here.
Uh we continually hear uh that this program has meant so much to you, and uh I'm extant when I hear that, but believe me, the the the fact that you are in the audience and have been there and continue to be for so many years is has meant more to my life and and my family's life than uh this program could ever mean to you.
Uh I'm not trying to cancel out your your compliment.
I'm I'm trying to return it in a way that is commensurate and understanding.
Also, uh the the staff here is uh uh is is without exception the best that there is in radio, and I'm grateful for all of you uh that are here and have hung around uh well, I mean have eagerly stayed because there's no place better to be.
I understand that, but still you're here, and and I I I have an ongoing daily appreciation, and I want to mention one name because I never have before, but my syndication partner is Craig Kitchen.
You never hear his name, but he's uh he is one of the invisible players that makes all of this happen.
And we've put Craig in the last six or seven years through a huge roller coaster, and he has never fallen off of it, and he's he's he's been there, and there is no better partner that I could possibly have doing this program.
So I wanted to personally thank Craig and uh and all of his people at Premier Radio.
I have to take a brief break.
We'll be back in just a second and continue right after this.
Well, Merry Christmas, everybody.
Uh, this is the last time uh I will be with you prior to the new year.
So make the most of the remaining days in the year as I will.
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