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Dec. 8, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 8, 2005, Thursday, Hour #2
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All right, I just got a story here from uh from our buddies at Newsmax.
And I have to tell I I'm I'm it I'm I'm frustrated.
I'm angry about this.
I'm gonna I'm gonna try to maintain my composure as I go through this.
Senator John McCain claimed yesterday that the U.S. is still torturing terrorist detainees.
Even as Secretary of State Rice visits with European leaders to assure them the practice is banned under U.S. law.
McCain was on a radio yesterday, said we've got to stop this torture.
If you torture somebody, they're gonna tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop.
Well, McCain himself once admitted that torture worked on him.
He gave up more than his name, rank, and serial number when he was in the Hanoi Hilton.
The Maverick Republican senator said the U.S. can't win the propaganda war if people believe throughout the world that you are practicing cruel, inhuman, degrading mistreatment or torture on the people that you capture.
Well, who's who who is creating the notion that this is happening, Senator?
Democrats and you.
Democrats and you are the ones that perpetuate the notion that we torture.
We've got the Secretary of State running around the world telling people it's against the law, we don't do it.
You're out there saying we've got to stop the torture.
He said, right now we have prisons apparently set up in different places in the world where we're keeping people for years.
Meanwhile, Dr. Rice said the U.S. does not condone torture.
She told a German audience this on Tuesday.
It's against U.S. law to be involved in torture or conspiracy to commit torture.
And is also against U.S. international obligations, and the president's made it very clear that U.S. personnel will operate within U.S. law and within our international obligations.
Now let me ask you a question, folks.
Here you've got McCain running around, and you know what this is just reminds me of?
The same way he was running around heading up campaign finance reform.
He was talking constantly about a broken campaign system.
We have to get the money out of politics.
Money is polluting Washington, D.C. It's corrupting decent men and women.
It's the money that's the problem, and we've got to get a kept the drum beat up, the media loved it, and he's now singing their song on this torture business while the Secretary of State's running around trying to assure Eastern and other European leaders that it's not happening.
Now, my question is this: how is constantly accusing our government of torturing any different in terms of undermining the war mission than saying we can't win this war?
How is what McCain is doing substantively different from what Howard Dean is doing?
Howard Dean's out there saying we can't win the war.
Our troops can't win it.
We have no chance at winning the war.
Senator McCain's out there saying we don't deserve to win the war.
We're torturing people.
We're not good people.
You put these two together and you feed right into the enemy's own propaganda.
If it's the policy of the United States to torture, then those who make the claim, including Senator McCain, I think have a duty to the American people to put their case before the nation.
If he's gonna go on the radio and say, we've got to stop this torture, tell us where it's happening.
Give us all the evidence.
Make the case.
If you're gonna accuse the country of doing this when you say we, we've got to stop all this torture.
This this reminds me, as I said, of McCain and his sky is falling arguments that led to the uh campaign finance reform disaster.
I mean, they what's gonna happen is there'll be this push to act because all this urgency is being created.
We're torturing, we're torturing.
Rice is running around saying we're not torturing, but McCain knows.
Maverick John McCain.
We've got to stop this torture, Sailor.
You gotta stop it.
Stop it!
See.
So everybody says, oh, there's must be torturing as McCain says it.
It needs to be on Chris Matthews, and He'd be on all the cable shows.
And the whole subject of torture will become the image of U.S. armed forces, right?
Just what Dick Durbin was trying to do with his comments about what went on in Abu Ghrab, just what Senator Kennedy's been trying to do, just what any number of Democrats have been trying to do, and here's McCain feeding that beast.
My friend, I'm telling you, it is degrading to our men and women in uniform to buy into this terrorist propaganda about us committing torture and then passing a law based on this crap.
We are stopping everything to pass a law based on torture.
We're not going to torture when it's already against the law.
All it does is heighten the focus on this as supposedly commonplace.
Now, if you talk to an XPOW named Sam Johnson from Texas, he disagrees totally with me.
I'm going to tell you something.
Folks, if Howard Dean were running around saying this, we would be we we'd be beaten the hell out of him.
If it were Howard Dean running around saying we got to stop this torture, you know damn well that we would be all over his case.
Somehow with McCain running around saying it, mmm, Maverick John McCain, Senator McCain, well I'll tell you what, we have a guy that's every bit the hero that McCain is.
His name is Sam Johnson.
He too is an XPOW.
I have a story yesterday from the Dallas Morning News.
As an abused POW, Senator McCain knows what torture is, but so does a maimed Texas congressman who is afraid that McCain's bid to ban torture will only aid the nation's enemies.
With the moral authority of a former prisoner of war, Senator McCain is pushing to ban torture.
Now one of his former cellmates.
In the Hanoi Hilton, Representative Sam Johnson, whose mangled hand gives testament to the horrors he endured after being shot down in Vietnam, is working to block the measure.
Johnson is also a Republican.
He circulated a letter to colleagues arguing that the McCain proposal, which sailed through the Senate 90 to 9, would needlessly hamper counterterrorism efforts, a stance that has surprised human rights advocates.
Mark Insalako, director of the International Studies and Human Rights Program at the University of Dayton said, I can't imagine what he's thinking.
America should never do to anyone, even our worst enemies, what the Vietnamese did to McCain and Sam Johnson.
That's some some guy from Human Rights Watch said that.
Johnson defended his position after avoiding requests for two weeks to explain his views on the McCain proposal, which he called well-intentioned but unnecessary and potentially dangerous.
He said, I feel very strongly about this because I know what torture is.
Torture's already against the law, and John's proposal doesn't make it any more illegal.
You know, it's sort of like sort of like hate crimes.
We've already got crimes against these kinds.
Well, you add, well, it's a hate crime, it's a hate growth.
They're gonna make what is already a bad thing.
We're gonna make it even worse because of the attitude that accompanied it.
So if you hated somebody when you robbed her bank, if you hated somebody when you did whatever, we're really, we are gonna hammer you, pal, because we're gonna penalize your attitude.
We're gonna call it a hate crime.
Well, that's what Johnson says this is.
Torture's already against the law.
McCain's proposal doesn't make it any more illegal.
Now, who is Sam Johnson?
Well, you don't hear about him because he's not a media darling.
He spent seven years as a prisoner of war.
He left the service with two silver stars, three purple hearts, flying ace, the distinguished flying cross, and a bronze star.
He argued that federal law already bans torture, and the proposed language was also rules out cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment of foreign prisoners, would arm enemy fighters with tips for withstanding interrogation.
He said, I'm afraid John's proposal will drastically diminish our ability to gather intelligence.
Rules out cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment of foreign prisoners.
I I look at all this, and I tell you, if it were Howard Dean saying what McCain's out there saying, he would be, we'd be pummeling the guy.
It just feeds this notion that we are we're the barbarians, that we're the we just we just had an American hostage killed today.
Claimed to have been killed today by some Iraqi terrorist group.
And what are we doing?
We're sitting around debating how we treat people.
We're debating what we're doing.
we're not debating it.
We have a senator out there saying it's true, it's inconclusive.
We torture people and we've got to stop it.
And then natural extension or conclusion of this is, well, uh, we're losing these people, they're being beheaded and they're being slaughtered, they're being executed precisely because of our torture.
And that's just flat out wrong.
Americans have been killed.
Americans have been mass murdered.
Other innocent people around the world have been blown up and destroyed by these people long before torture ever became part of the public lexicon.
But yet that's what uh that's what's going to be said here.
Quick timeout, folks, gotta go.
Back with more in just a sec.
This is this is hilarious to me.
Now I'm watching Fox.
They got Ed Asner on making the case for clemency for this Tuki Williams guy.
Well, who was the last cop killer that these guys wanted uh uh clemen?
It was Mumia Abu Jamal sky hook.
And he was a guy in uh in Philadelphia.
Uh but here's here's old Ed Asner, Lou Grant, agitating for this guy's clemency.
They probably want him released when you uh when you get right down.
Tookie Williams, one of the original gangbangers in this country.
Um I just have to laugh.
I just do, but I want to, I'm not through with this torture business here, folks.
It's a really there's something about this that just grates on me to go on the radio.
We gotta stop this torture.
Well, prove it.
Let's where is it?
I want to see where all this torture is.
I want to see where it is.
The signature procedure of U.S. prison operations.
I want to see where that is written.
I want to see where this happens.
Because McCain is out there saying this.
Everybody, as long as this goes on as it keeps going on, people are just going to accept it.
Because he's Maverick, John McCain.
And what he's doing out there, he's using left wing and enemy propaganda.
This is exactly what the Abu Ghrab people are saying.
This is exactly what the Al Qaeda people are saying.
They're trained that if captured, claim you're being tortured, claim the Quran's being flushed down the toilet.
Train, claim this.
So we have enemy propaganda, American left-wing propaganda being echoed here.
And what is it?
Our armed forces are being accused of torture.
For what?
To do what?
Curry favor with the left?
To curry favor with the Europeans?
What's the point of this?
From McCain's perspective, what's he trying to do?
He's obviously trying to curry favor with somebody here.
This is obviously oriented toward his presidential aspirations.
Curry favor with the media.
They does consider them to be his base.
Curry favor with the Europeans.
Well, this is not, this is not how you set war policy and interrogation policy.
You know, we need to see all the evidence that we're authorizing the torture of people.
I want it defined.
As opposed to aggressive interrogation.
You know, look, look, let's what are we talking about here?
Let's have it specifically defined and let's see evidence of where it's happening.
And don't tell me Abu Grab and don't tell me club gitmo.
Abu Grab, that was that was punished under existing law.
The system worked there.
That was not torture.
I don't care what anybody says about it.
That was not torture.
It was illegal under military law, but it was not torture.
It might have been humiliation.
It might have been demeaning, but it wasn't torture.
So Abu Ghrab is not an apt example.
What we need, if we're going to have a U.S. senator who has presidential perspirations running around saying we've got to stop the torture.
Well, we need to know what it is.
We need examples of where our brave men and women fighting this war are torturing, and we want to know how McCain's amendment will change anything towards stopping it.
Otherwise, it just looks like a media stunt to me, and it's the same kind of buildup that led up to campaign finance reform.
And what did we get from that?
We got restrictions on the First Amendment.
We got more money in politics.
And again, I'm just telling you, if it were Howard Dean saying all this, he would be being creamed.
We would be pummeling Howard Dean.
You've got Sam Johnson, P.O.W., Hanoi Hilton, same as McCain, trying to say that nope, this is a bad idea.
It's going to end up hampering our efforts.
Nobody listens to him.
It's understandable.
How about this?
How about this new president of Iran says Israel should be moved to Europe.
Move Israel to Europe, and there was no Holocaust.
He says, now that you believe the Jews were oppressed, why should the Palestinian Muslims have to pay the price?
Why did you come to give a piece of Islamic land and the territory of the Palestinian people to them?
You oppress them.
So give a part of Europe to the Zionist regime so they can establish any government they want.
We would support that.
Just get them out of here.
So Germany and Austria come and give one tour, any number of your provinces to the Zionist regime so they can create a country there, which all of Europe will support, and the problem will be solved at its root.
Why do they insist on imposing themselves on other powers and creating a tumor so that there's always tension and conflict?
Then he went on to express doubts about the Holocaust, saying anybody comes up with evidence it didn't happen, they're destroyed, and so forth.
So this is the guy they're they're they're according to the International Atomic Energy Agency, uh good old Mohammed Al Baradai, they are what uh months away from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.
Good old CIA said uh not long ago, that don't worry about Iran at ten years away.
Thank you, CIA.
Al Baradai is saying we're months away.
What are we doing about it?
Diddly squat.
We're engaging in diplomacy.
And the Iranians are laughing at us, and now they're talking about moving Israel out of uh out of the Middle East to put them in Europe somewhere.
Jesse and Stevens Point, Wisconsin, welcome to the program, sir.
Nice to have you with us.
Um, thank you very much, Russia.
Uh dittoes to you, and Merry Christmas to you and everyone at EIB.
Thank you, sir.
And I just wanted to say, sir, that uh these leaks that have been coming out in the media about the the prisons that we supposedly have in Europe, uh John McCain yesterday on the radio.
One thing that these stories are doing, and for sure, is they've sent a message that although bound by civility, international law, the U.S. will do.
If you have ties with Osama bin Laden or suspected of being involved with terrorists in any way, we will hunt you down.
We'll grab you when you least expect it, we'll shove your head in a bag, and we will fly you to a foreign country in Europe and torture you until you get you tell us what we need to know.
Now I heard uh a guy on the news yesterday talking about how there are massive security concerns around Osama bin Laden.
That's why he hasn't sent us a video love note lately.
And uh, you know, I think Bush has shown that uh our military and him are not poll driven, even though the polls say that the main concern of detractors and international community is our torture, they're gonna go ahead and they're gonna do what they need to do to protect this country.
I mean, the American Airlines flight what happened yesterday.
That's that's a perfect example of it.
All right, so if I understand you, you th you're you're not that concerned about McCain running around saying what he's saying because the fact that he's saying it means we're doing it, which is sending a chill up and down the spines of the bad guys.
Well, I'm not necessarily saying that I it doesn't bother me.
It does bother me.
But there is a possible positive side effect to it.
I mean, you know, your useful idiot theory is perfect in this situation.
I mean, if if you know that if these guys aren't gonna show enough courage to stand up and be Americans, or they're not gonna show willingness to stand with Americans, we might as well use their ignorance and their spinelessness.
Well, that's the thing.
I I I think that the message here, if if this is a this is this this war on terror is is uh by definition gonna be a very long and protracted thing.
And the message that's being sent is we're not really willing to fight it.
We're willing to handcuff ourselves, or we're willing to tie our arm behind our back, and in some cases half of our brains, uh, and we're not really serious about this.
Now you can sit there and say that all this talk might convey the impression that yeah, we're doing this, and hey, you don't want to get captured by these guys because they're gonna really mistreat you, they're gonna take you away to a foreign country and you'll never be heard from again.
Uh but and and while I concede that, you know, that might be one of the uh reactions that some of these terrorist leaders might have at the same time.
There are people sitting around uh these same people watching the efforts being made by the American Democrats and some Republicans To stymie this effort, so all they've got to do is hold out.
Hold out, support the McCain Amendment, let the McCain Amendment pass, uh, let the Americans continue to beat themselves up, let Senator Durbin and the rest of the Democrats continue to hamstring our efforts in dealing with these people.
Just hold off a while.
Don't get caught.
Don't engage any hostilities anywhere, or you're gonna get caught, at least some of these flea bags in Iraq that the terrorists don't mind losing.
But uh in other operations, this is sit back until Senator McCain accomplishes what he wants to accomplish, and Senator Durbin accomplishes what he wants to accomplish.
Sit back until maybe they impeach Bush.
Just to sit back until Howard Dean actually prevails.
Sit back until we get Saddam out of jail and give him his country back.
Just sit back and wait.
Is the message being sent.
The message being sent by all this is that we're pansies.
The message sent by this is that we still don't get it.
That we are not willing to do what's necessary.
I'm not talking about torture being necessary.
This goes beyond torture because it isn't being defined.
Back in just a second.
Well, I'll tell you what, they get big snowstorm all the way from Illinois to New York.
Multiple inches of snow, anywhere from four to eight, depending on where you happen to be.
St. Louis is getting creamed right now.
I remember those days when I lived where it snowed, and I love the Christmas music at the time.
And I still love the Christmas music, and I I still looking at pictures, I love looking at pictures of the snow.
Look at that.
So hell yes, I shoveled the walk.
I mean, I was tortured as a kid.
Not only, not only did I have to shovel the walk, I was punished by having to mow the yard and pull weeds.
I had to do all that stuff.
And before the afternoon baseball games, heck yeah.
Uh I had to clean the bathroom.
I was not part of daily chore.
But if I made a mess in there, I went in there and damn straight I had to clean it up.
I had to feed the birds.
I had to feed the squirrels.
Now that was fun.
We get these acorns and we'd pack them together outside the breakfast nook window, and these squirrels would come up.
My mother had said to come on, little squirrel.
Come on.
And there's little squirrels, these red fox squirrels would come up and take them out of our hands.
Things can't see for I mean again, they scratch, you know, they don't mean to scratch you, but they're reaching for the acorns of the nuts or what are peanuts or giving peanuts too.
And uh, yeah, a little animal menagerie.
Uh minor bird in there.
Had to clean the birdcage.
Ho ho ho ho yes.
That was before I really learned the true value in newspapers.
We used them, but I didn't realize that was their primary purpose in life was birdcage underlining for droppings and so forth.
Let's talk about this New York Times CBS poll, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
As the New York Times writes this, after months of political erosion, President Bush's approval rating improved markedly in the latest New York Times CBS news poll, largely tracking Americans' more positive attitudes toward the economy.
I'm gonna I'm gonna guarantee you that that's all the Democrats need to read.
They don't care about the specifics.
They're gonna see the trend.
The trend's moving up, and oh my God, there goes their weapon.
What do they got?
Iraq isn't working for them, Dean has mucked that up.
So is Dingy Harry, so is John Mertha.
They peaked too soon on that.
That's bombing out on them.
The economy now that's that's starting to go well.
Katrina, none of these things are working.
All they've got's Alito now.
And I'm I'm gonna tell you, they're already, they're already ginning up, folks.
They are ready to fire both barrels.
They are gonna give this Alito nomination everything they've got because they're gonna be fit to be tied.
Everything they've done, they have piled on, they've fired both barrels.
If they've got Howardsters and bazookas, they've used them.
By this time, Bush should have had impeachment charges brought.
He should be in the dock.
We should be debating that, and instead, we had all this myth about the gas prices that are still so high, which they're not.
Energy costs still so high.
We've bashed Walmart, we've bashed Exxon Mobile.
We have bashed General Motors, we've bashed everybody.
The Democrats have done all this in an attempt to destroy the Bush administration, and yet his numbers are coming back up, and the trend is what they're going to be concerned about.
The second paragraph, New York Times story is this, but his presidency is still plagued.
By widespread doubts about his handling of the war in Iraq, 52% of poll respondents saying the Bush administration intentionally misled the public when its officials made the case for war.
Okay, let's uh let's take that alone.
52% of respondents saying the Bush administration intentionally misled the public when its officials made the case for war.
Now we know factually and intellectually this is not true.
Yet 52% of the Americans, according to this poll think they've been lied to.
Now, I have never said the mainstream media is going away, and I have never said that they're going to become inconsequential.
I have said their days of monopoly are over and their days of domination are over.
There will be hiccups like this.
But on something like this, it is they who have the ultimate problem, and it is the Democrats who have the ultimate problem because all of this is based on lies.
The big lie is that the Democrats are lying about Bush lying.
And I'm not going to regurgitate all this.
We've gone back to 1998.
We've gone back to 2001 and 2002 for all of these quotes from Democrats before Bush even got to Washington saying the exact same thing that he did.
You can test this.
You can you can uh if you know any liberals who are fervently believing that Bush lied, tell them the truth.
We've published this in the newsletter.
All these quotes have been on this program and on my website.
They're there in the archives if you want to go get them if you're a member, print them out.
Listen to the audio again of all these Democrats saying these things, and go tell a liberal this, and you'll be amazed at the reaction.
They will be hearing it for the first time.
They will not remember that Bill Clinton said all this back in 1998.
And then they'll try to hem and haw and downplay it and say, well, yeah, it doesn't matter because there's still a lot of people who are against the war.
It will not make it.
The facts will not impact them.
There's a boundary.
It's like that they've got a suit of armor or something, and any fact that contradicts their alternative reality that they have constructed in which they safely reside is going to be rejected, thrown out, and not even considered.
And hence you get a poll result that shows that 52% of the American people have believed a bunch of lies themselves.
Well, the New York Times is attempting to slant the results of this poll in a negative, even though most of the trends in this poll are very positive.
They also say that a majority of Americans want the U.S. to set some timetable for troop withdrawal.
32% want the number of American troops reduced, and 28% want a total pull-out.
They don't tell you the other half of the story.
There is a lot of good news for the president and Republicans in the CBS poll data.
Key issue, Iraq.
Of those, as I just told you, who disapprove of the president's performance, the Iraq war is cited as the reason by 53%.
No other response garners more than 8% in this poll when asked why they disapprove of the president's performance.
Yet, if you dig deep in the poll as I do, because I am a highly trained broadcast specialist, and I dig deep into these eternals, internals, because I don't believe the stories that CBS or the New York Times write to accompany their polls.
I look at what they don't publish.
They put it on their websites.
And you find that the data on Iraq are very uh strange.
It's it it contradicts.
Respondents favor settling a timetable for withdrawal by 58 to 39 percent.
Now, you may look at, oh no, Rush, that's bad news.
That's right what the Democrats have been saying.
Okay.
58 to 39 percent respondents in the poll favor setting a timetable for withdrawal.
However, by 61 to 34 percent, the same people in this poll agree with the president that removing our troops from Iraq now would be a recipe for disaster.
So what are we to make of this?
58 to 39, we need a timetable, a favorite timetable.
61 to 34, pulling out now is a recipe for disaster.
Further, 40% of the respondents say that removing our troops will increase the risk of terrorism against the U.S. Only 8% of the people in this poll agree with the liberals that withdrawal would decrease this risk.
Only 8% agree with Kerry, only 8% agree with Dean, only 8% agree with Mertha, only 8% agree with Pelosi Boxer et al.
Harry Reed.
Only 8% agree that withdrawing from Iraq would decrease the risk of terrorism against the U.S. And there's even more.
By 36 to 21%, the respondents in this poll say that if their representatives supported immediate withdrawal from Iraq, it would make them less likely to vote for him or her.
Okay, so you can go back.
58 to 39 favor setting a timetable.
But then everything after that contradicts that point of view.
58 to 39 say we need to set a timetable.
However, let's review the numbers again.
Numbers hard to follow on the radio, I know.
61 to 34.
Respondents agree with Bush that taking troops out now would be a recipe for disaster.
Forty percent say that removing the troops would increase the risk of terrorism against the U.S. Only 8% agree with the liberal theory that removing troops would decrease the risk.
And by 36 to 21%, the respondents in this poll say that if their representatives supported immediate withdrawal, i.e.
Mertha, i.e.
dean, i.e.
Kerry, i.e., all the Democrats, it would make them less likely to vote for him or her.
So the immediate surrender, the cut and run, the we do run theory from the Democrats would be an electoral disaster.
Just as I've told you it would be.
They are McGovernizing themselves.
This is precisely what I've told you.
This is not what the American people want the U.S. leadership to do in times of crisis and times of war.
We are not quitters.
We are the United States of America, and we don't lose unless people like the Democrats do what they can to ensure it, and they are invested in such defeat.
And the American people have made it plain in this poll that they will punish anybody who advances the notion or the likelihood that we will lose by pulling out prematurely or by increasing the odds that more terrorist attacks against this country will take place.
Even this is, you know, 48 to 48%, 48-48 in this poll on whether the Iraq war was a good idea.
But if you look at the trends in the poll, optimism about this whole thing is on the upswing.
And you know that if a year from now we're in the midst of a troop drawdown, and these elections uh in about a week, week from today go well, and the Iraqis are on the way to defending and protecting their own country, this optimism is going to continue right into the 2006 elections, and all the Democrats are going to be able to do is say, we made it happen.
Hey, we made it happen.
Poll results here do not indicate they will get away with this.
It's clearly, clearly evident in this poll who the Democrats are, how they are identified by the respondents.
And by the way, these are not likely voters in this poll either, just random adults, not likely voters, just men on the street.
Could have been somebody in there that thinks the levees in New Orleans were purposely blown up.
Could have been somebody in there that thinks there are active concentration camps and mass graves in New Orleans.
For all we know, random adults, not likely voters.
You go out and get likely voters, people who are engaged in the process, and I guarantee you this poll is going to show even better for Bush.
And the Democrats have to be sitting behind closed doors thanking their Lord for McCain carrying their water on the Republican side by claiming that all we do is torture out there.
We need new legislation for it.
And they've got to be at the same time wringing their hands.
Oh my gosh, it's all fallen apart on everything we thought it was were.
We thought we had 06-1.
We thought we had 08-1.
And now it's all fallen apart.
And now they're behind closed doors again, trying to figure out what they believe.
And what they can say they believe.
They're kind of come up with a policy.
They don't have a policy other than cut and run.
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Rush Limbaugh, highly trained broadcast specialist on the EIB network.
Now, here, here's a classic example.
I've got an AP story, the uh the slug line, the headline, Mertha's rising stock.
Representative John Mertha's stock is rising in the Democratic Party right alongside his public profile.
I'm not surprised.
Let's go back to the New York Times poll.
What is Mertha's idea?
Immediate withdrawal.
Mirtha wants us out of there.
Our military can't win.
We are in the process of losing.
We are worn down.
We are living hand to mouth.
Get out now.
Make them safe.
Bring them home.
How many people agree with this in the New York Times?
Uh, let's see.
Ah, here it is.
When asked what the United States should do now in Iraq, 32% said it should decrease American troop levels.
28% said we should just completely withdraw troops.
So 28% of the American people agree with John Murtha, and a lib media says his stock is rising.
Twenty-eight percent of the Nimrods in this country.
Twenty-eight percent of the mental midgets, the ignoramuses, twenty percent of these people that wouldn't know up from down when they're sober, agree with John Murtha, and yet his stock is rising.
Let me refrain from the they're just ignorant.
These people are just ignorant.
It's not I don't know, I'm not saying they're stupid, they're just ignorant.
They're just blockheaded ignoramuses.
Anyway, 28%, and his stock is rising.
Well, let me read first.
How can that possibly be?
Um let's see.
Well, the stock is rising, uh House Democrats responds.
Ah, here it is.
Uh the in uh uh he is become a darling of the morning television talk shows.
There it is.
That's where his stocks were his stock's rising with Katie.
His stock is rising with Soledad.
His stock is rising with whoever works at ABC, and his NBC or CBS, yeah, CBS.
Well, all those people in the morning, that's where he's big.
That's where his stock is rising in the media.
But 28% of the people, only 28% agree with him.
Yet, hero.
Big hero in the media, John Mertha.
Uh, I didn't intend to say take this long to say this.
I wanted to get a phone call before the break.
I went a little long in the last segment to play the uh we do run run run song.
So this segment uh has been shortened as a result.
Apologize for that, but I have to go on for just a moment.
We'll be back and continue.
Stay right where you are.
I just realized we haven't gotten to Howard Dean trying to extricate himself from the uh latest hangman's news that he put himself in.
So we will listen to that when we uh when we come back.
And uh still lots of exciting stuff out there in the stacks of stuff to get to.
Yesterday was Pearl Harbor Day, and I found a funny thing on a blog.
Uh if uh Pearl Harbor Day were covered then by the media as it is today, how would it have been reported?
Pretty cool.
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