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Nov. 23, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 23, 2005, Wednesday, Hour #3
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Time flies.
It's the fastest three hours in media, and we've already been through two of the three here today on the award-winning Rush Limbaugh program.
I am America's anchor man, firmly ensconced in the prestigious Attila the Hun chair here at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
A thrill and a delight to have you along with us.
The real story of Thanksgiving coming up in this hour.
It's a tradition on our Thanksgiving show.
It's from my second best seller, two and a half million copies.
See, I told you so.
We will cull it from chapter six.
Telephone number, we'll be talking to a lot of you during the remaining hour as well, is 800-282-2882, and the email address is rush at eIBNet.com.
Now, uh we've had one call today.
I get a lot of these calls around this time of year.
People are going to visit relatives, and invariably, I mean, you're going to run into a liberal relative now and then, and people always want to know how to deal with them.
And they're asking me about it.
And I've I've already given some advice earlier today, but uh let me just tack on some more here.
Repeat what I said very briefly.
You have to understand, don't take whatever they say personally.
They're trying to get under your skin.
Don't let them.
Don't go on defense, stay on offense.
Understand that they're not commenting on you.
They are telling you who they are.
Somebody starts behaving that way, they are opening a window into who they are for you to look through.
They're not aware of it, but that's what they're doing.
They're telling you who they are, they're telling you the kind of person they are.
And in the in the some people, well, yeah, that's easy for you to say, but how do you do it?
Um, I know.
Confidence is a tough thing.
Uh you've got to be very confident.
But if you're a confident conservative, you shouldn't be able to be shaken off of it.
Uh don't care what kind of attitude uh the liberal that you're talking to might have.
And I have plenty of nice liberals out there.
I don't mean to say that they're all arrogant, mean-spirited, extremist, condescending uh creeps.
But this guy that called the day and made his uncle sound that way, so that's that's what we're we're dealing with.
But I want to read you a little philosophy here from the little known philosopher Per Byland.
And it it will describe much of today's agitated, angry, kook fringe left when you stop and think about it.
Only people, P-E-R-B-Y-L-U-N-D.
I told you he's little known.
Uh it's my job to know who these people are, but he's little known, he's a little known philosopher, libertarian.
Uh Google him, you'll see.
Only people not able to grow tall from their own efforts and achievements seek to subdue their fellow man.
Only people not being able to find comfort in their own mind seek to silence others.
Those who are unable to produce their own wealth aim to confiscate the wealth of others.
So the first two of these, only people not able to grow tall from their own efforts and achievements seek to subdue their fellow man.
That's just a flowery way of saying that uh people who don't think that they've amounted to much will try to take down others around them so that they don't feel so small.
And that's what your uncle's do.
What's this guy's name, Peter and St. Louis?
It's what your uncle's doing.
Your uncle actually doesn't think much of himself as the bottom line.
And he's trying to make you feel puny and small, and you're making the mistake of letting him.
Starts talking that way, stand up taller, stand up on your tiptoes, whatever it takes to make you feel bigger than the guy because you already are by virtue of his behavior.
Only people not being able to find comfort in their own mind seek to silence others.
Well, people that you know how many people do you know that do not want to hear anything that challenges their worldview?
They don't want to hear it, they don't want to get anywhere near it, because they've constructed for themselves a little safety net or a cocoon in which to live, which they view the world in a certain way, and anything that challenges it is automatically rejected.
It's like they're like they're they've got a boundary or body armor just bounces right off.
And of course, it goes without saying that uh those who are unable to produce their own wealth uh aim to confiscate the wealth of others.
I mean, that's that's axiomatic, and that's probably you know, Roman numeral number one in the liberal handbook.
So it's just, it really is it's nothing more than uh a confident attitude, and if you're confident in your conservatism, uh don't let somebody's mannerisms or attitude uh fluster you.
Uh turn it turn it right around on them.
Now, I mentioned earlier in the program that the automobile industry is now seeking federal subsidies.
It's actually Ford Motor is doing this.
This is from the Washington Post today.
Ford Motor Company Chairman William Clay Ford Jr. urged the government yesterday to help struggling U.S. automakers by expanding subsidies for companies that make components for hybrids and other fuel efficient vehicles, as U.S. automakers race to close a widening technology gap with the Japanese.
He made his comments in a speech at the National Press Club.
He asked for more incentives, such as tax credits to prod consumers to buy hybrids and other vehicles with fuel saving technology.
He also asked Congress for money to retrain workers and to consider tax incentives to help manufacturers outfit old plants with new equipment.
In the speech, Ford said a national strategy is needed to respond to the pressures of globalization, which he called the economic challenge of our time.
After the speech, Ford planned to meet with some economic officials at the White House yesterday, including Alan Hubbard, the White House's advisor on economic policy.
Mr. Ford said he expected to talk about conditions in the industry and plan uh summit on energy issues that he said the White House has agreed to hold.
Now, I remember back when uh H. Bush, George H. W. Bush, uh, Bush 41, as he's popularly known, was president.
And the subject was HD TV.
And the Japanese were running rings around us when it came to HD TV.
And it was going to be very expensive to retool and and uh and get the U.S. uh consumer electronics industry uh geared up to produce HD TV.
There are a whole bunch of different formats that were that at the time were being uh looked at, and the U.S. consumer electronics agency called Robert Mossbacker, the uh uh then commerce secretary.
So we we need some help here, need some government help, need some infusion, subsidies help us HD TV.
And Mossbacker said, nope.
Uh if you can't compete in the world, you don't need to be in a business.
What do you mean coming to us?
What do you mean the government?
That's not what we're here for.
If you can't compete with these guys, then let's just find out.
And of course, there I don't think there ended up being any subsidies, and lo and behold, the U.S. consumer electronics business is well into HD TV, along with the Japanese, and it is taking off.
And it's just a little side note.
I have to tell you, I the more I see of HD TV, the more uh impressed I am.
I it's not something I've been I've been watching HD now steadily for about a year.
And uh it is not become commonplace.
It's still something special.
Like last week, I have the NFL Sunday ticket because I'm fortunate.
I happen to live in a place where I don't have a lot of trees blocking my view of the Direct TV satellite.
Of course, if I did, I'd just cut them down.
And I would deal with Lori David did uh with whatever problems came my way later.
I was bound to determine to get HD TV and the and uh and a direct TV satellite, so I have one.
Well, the NFL Sunday ticket I also subscribe to, and every week they show certain games in high definition.
Well, my team, as you know, is the Pittsburgh Steelers, and last week the matchup of the Steelers and the uh and the Baltimore Ravens, I guess was considered by CBS, which broadcast the game to be of no consequence and basically a dirt bag game because they didn't televise it in HD.
But it's still a Steelers.
So I wanted to watch it.
So I had the Steelers on, but I'm going back and forth, and I found myself more and more watching games with teams that I didn't like as much just because they were in HD.
I'm total it changes the viewing experience.
It really does.
And it's it's only gonna build.
There's only going to be more and more channels in HD as the uh as as by the way, if you're an animal lover and if you like watching these animal shows where animals eat each other, you haven't seen it yet till you see it in HD TV.
You may have been watching these uh National Geographic specials where the wildebeest gets creamed by the hyena, and you watch the hyena tear the wildebeest to shreds.
You see that on HD, ha ha ha ha.
You see the flies, you see the insects, yeah.
I mean, you see it all.
Whether it's in the oceans, whether it's on land, it's just it it totally changes things.
But despite despite the U.S. consumer electronics industry, they got involved.
The government said no, we're not gonna help you.
Uh Here now, the U.S. automakers, William Clay Ford and others, are under intense pressure as automakers lose market share and embark on one of the most difficult periods of industry restructuring in years.
On Monday, GM uh announced 30,000 job cuts and a dozen plant closings by 2008, slashing the workforce by more than 20 percent.
Well, I hate to I hate to say this, you know, because there are all kinds of people in this audience, but laying off these people is not gonna save them that much money.
It really isn't.
You know why?
Because they've got they've got deals with the unions where the retirees still get their salaries.
When you get laid off, some of them, not all, but some of them still get their salary.
You wouldn't believe the number of obligations General Motors has in health care and pensions to retired employees.
It's unsustainable.
Now, I know that those of you who are retired GM workers, hey, wait, that was the deal, they made it.
I know I under I understand that, but at some point, everybody knew it's just like Social Security.
For some point, it's gonna be unsustainable.
We're gonna have to change it, and because nobody's got the political guts to do it now, Social Security is gonna happen just like these auto layoffs are one of these days, not too distant future, there's either going to be a vast reduction in benefits or a huge increase in taxes.
There's no those the only two possibilities if we don't come up now with an alternative plan, but nobody wants to do that.
Well, as nobody back then wanted to bite the bullet uh on on this stuff, and it's just become unsustainable.
This is one factor that the Japanese automakers are not saddled with.
They're not saddled with continuing to pay people that don't work for them.
They haven't made those deals with the unions.
Uh I'm again, I'm not being critical of union people.
I'm just saying what what is is what is, and it's the reality that we have to deal with.
There's another thing here.
I keep reading in this story, we keep talking about we need education and we need incentives, and we need this.
People start buying these these hybrids.
Doesn't that tell you people don't yet want them?
I folks, you can do all in the world you want to try to tell people what they ought to be doing, but the market is going to be the ultimate determining factor in this.
And if it becomes the decision of the federal government and the auto manufacturers that people are going to be driving hybrids, the only way they're going to make that happen is if that's all they make.
The only option you have is a hybrid.
You know how we are in this country with our cars.
And and you know, people are they're downsizing SUVs now.
I know a lot of people, we had a guy on hold yesterday, we didn't get to him.
Uh, because I talked a little bit about the layoff plan at General Motors, 30,000 workers, and this guy was on hold, said, Yeah, the problem is they're making too many SUVs.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
That's Laurie David kind of lingo.
That's environmentalist wacko lingo.
They're not making too many SUVs.
That's not the they're selling SUVs out to Wazoo.
They're selling trucks out to Wazoo.
It's not that they can't make enough of them, and in some instances, that's not the thing.
Now, you do have some people, oh, I don't want this SUV when the gas price hits three bucks, but I guarantee it's it's a buck eighty eight in New Jersey now.
The gas price has come down.
It's not still three bucks.
The media would have you believe that nobody can afford gasoline right now, but it's not the case.
This the the their problems go they're far deeper than uh simply the SUVs or non-SUVs, and hybrids are not the answer.
I'm telling you right now, this hybrid talk, it's not the answer.
This this is the the it's typical of a small, minuscule, irrelevant number of liberals who think they know better than everybody else, a bunch of little elitist pointy heads who do not believe in God, who think they are God,
and who now think that everybody else is out destroying what we cannot destroy because we didn't create it in the first place, God did, and they're now out there trying to impose their beliefs on everybody else.
And since they have failed, because most people don't want a hybrid, they don't want an electric car, they're not interested in it yet.
The market is not there yet.
These elitists are saying these people don't know what's good for them, they don't know what's right for the environment, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So now they're gonna go to the government and say, let's alter the tax code to make it really advantageous to buy hybrids.
Now, the reason the automakers want, I guess they think they can compete with the Japanese in hybrids, or maybe they don't think they're going to be able to compete and they need some help competing with the Japanese and hybrids.
It's one or the other.
But uh Ford, uh the Ford company first called on the Bush administration to hold a summit on energy and automotive technology issues in October.
Ford said the billions of dollars that U.S. automakers pay in health care and pension costs are unfairly weighing down the companies, making it difficult to compete.
All right, so you go have your economic summit.
You can do all that, and you can you can piddle around with your health care plan and pension cost.
I don't know where a shred of that time is going to be devoted to designing cars that people want.
Isn't that what this is about?
Go out design and build cars people want.
You know, Pontiac has got a they've got this this uh new car that's just it's it's it's either out or coming out soon, and they're not gonna be able to make enough of them.
Uh Bob Lutz has been hired at General Motors as is a guru.
He was used to be at Chrysler.
And I've met him at the cigar dinner I go to every year.
And uh they're they're Pontiac's coming out with a new car that I guarantee you is gonna is gonna captivate people, and I forget uh Buick is coming out with one as well.
This is the kind of thing they need to be doing, and Lutz has been there while he's just now starting to his his work is just now starting to have its impact because it takes a while.
You wouldn't know how long it takes to start designing a car that actually shows up on the assembly line being built is years.
That's another problem.
But you can talk about all these health care costs and pension costs, but I mean, and there that's true, it's a huge, huge problem in terms of just the the business cash flow and profitability, but it has nothing to do with whether or not you got the right people designing and building cars.
But now with the auto industry, and it used to be said as GM goes, so goes America.
It's not the case anymore.
GM's what 26% of the car of the of the U of the car market now?
Does I read that 26%?
GM combined or something.
Anyway, I'm a little long here in this segment, folks.
Must take an obscene profit break.
We'll do that now and be back in just a second.
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I have spoken on this program in the past of American exceptionalism, and I want you to keep that thought in mind as I next comment on this whole automobile hybrid business.
I just got an email from a guy who says, hey, Rush, I I went, I tried to buy a hybrid, but right now you can only get Honda and Toyota.
And I went out and I ran the numbers.
And uh if gasoline averages 250 over the next number of years, it's gonna take me five years or whatever he said, five years to make up the $10,000 higher price tag than a hybrid is over something else.
But I can't find any American-made hybrid.
So Rush, if the American auto manufacturers make a hybrid, uh, we will come.
Okay, if you want a hybrid, that is fine with with me.
I I'm happy.
You if if if you want what you want, and this country can provide it, then by golly, go get it.
But I'm gonna tell you, I am never gonna set foot in one of those little things.
I am never gonna buy a hybrid.
When I see one on a road, I'm gonna try to run it off the road.
I'm only kidding.
You, I'm not gonna be caught dead.
I because I don't want one.
And I'm not gonna listen to a bunch of pointy-headed liberal elites who do not believe in American greatness, who do not believe in American exceptionalism, tell me that we cannot be the best at what we do in this country.
We most certainly can, and I will guarantee you, the more we involve the federal government in what we do in the private sector to try to be the best, the worst we're gonna be.
Let me ask you a question.
You people have dealt with the government in many levels.
You've dealt with the uh, you've dealt with the IRS, you've dealt with motor vehicles.
I don't care.
Is there anybody?
Is there any agency?
Is there any individual that you would hire to run your business that you've run into in government?
Is there somebody at some federal agency doing stuff a bang up job that we need to get that person now and put them In the private sector and save things.
I doubt it.
They are bureaucrats.
I'm not putting them down, but that's what their job is.
Their job is bureaucracy.
Their job is creating big problems and then managing them in such a way as to say they need even more people to manage the problem.
The private sector's not going to solve anything.
Now, tax breaks, that's a different matter because, you know, if you give tax incentives, people will respond to that, but that's that's different than having I mean, this is this is no different when Al Gore wanted to tell the automobile industry what it ought to make.
Al Gore, would you hire Al Gore to run your business?
You would not.
Now, uh so many of these pointy headed intellectuals have got so many people believing that we've got to scale back our lifestyle.
We've got to scale back this, we've got to scale back that.
We do not, folks.
We are a growing country.
We have a growing economy, and we need more and more innovation, entrepreneurism, and production.
We don't need to start going backwards and saying, oh, whoa is us.
Screw this hybrid crap, as far as I'm concerned.
Hi, welcome back.
Great to have you with us.
The true story of Thanksgiving is next.
But before let me explain this, I don't want anybody go off here half-cocked, this screw hybrid business, I said, I mean it in this context.
The idea that we must go to the hybrid, or all is lost is BS.
As I say, if you want a hybrid, let them all let them make them and let whoever buys them buy them.
And whoever wants them, buy them, that's fine.
But don't tell me that a hybrid is the salvation and savior of this country.
I'm not buying into it.
I don't think this is this is just a it's it's a bunch of wacko environmentalists and pointy headed elitists trying to tell everybody else how they ought to live.
And I I have look, I've talked about this, these auto executives.
And I had an auto executive tell me.
He said, To my face, this was an in-person meeting.
He said, Rush.
If by magic every American automobile being driven today could be made a hybrid tomorrow, it would only be five years and we'd be right back to where we are today in using the same amount of fuel that we're using, and if costs are not going to be that much different.
But if that's what people want, we will make it.
That's what he said to me.
This whole notion that the hybrid is the panacea is the solution.
You got to understand who it is behind this kind of thinking and what the purpose is.
And it is not born of American exceptionalism.
This is born of American inferiority complex.
This thinking that we can't grow anymore, that we can't increase our standards of living, that we cannot continue to grow and create more wealth and prosperity.
It's absolute bunk.
And there are too many defeatists out there and people who believe it, who have no concept of American exceptionalism, because they themselves have an inferiority complex.
They think we're to blame for all the evils in the world anyway.
And this is how they manifest that belief in day-to-day life, and it's just absurd.
And I urge you not not to fall prey to all this.
Like it's just like this global warming business.
They've got everybody thinking it's warming.
Oh, it may be, but it's because the sun's getting a little hotter, there's sunspot activity.
It's solar warming.
It's all a croc, folks.
It's all it's all just an 100% croc, uh, and it's all politics, and it's all based on the advancement of liberalism.
Speaking of which, from my second bestseller, see I told you so.
Chapter six, Dead White Guys, or what the history books never told you.
The true story of Thanksgiving.
The story of the pilgrims begins in the early part of the 17th century, which is the 1600s for those of you in Rio Linda.
The Church of England under King James I was persecuting anybody and everyone who didn't recognize its absolute civil and spiritual authority.
Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and those who believe strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down, they were imprisoned, sometimes executed for their beliefs.
A group of separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
After eleven years, about 40 of them agreed to make a perilous journey to the new world where they would certainly face hardships, but they could live and worship God according to the dictates of their own consciences.
On August 1, 1620, the Mayflower set sail.
It carried a total of 102 passengers, including 40 pilgrims led by a man named William Bradford.
On the journey, Bradford set up an agreement, a contract of sorts that established just and equal laws for all members of this new community, irrespective of their religious beliefs.
So where did the revolutionary ideas expressed in this?
This was the Mayflower Complex compact, by the way.
Where did the where did the revolutionary ideas for this compact come from?
They straight from the Bible, folks.
The pilgrims were a people completely steeped in the lessons of the old and the new testaments.
They looked to the ancient Israelites for their example, and because of the biblical precedence set forth in Scripture, they never doubted that their experiment would work.
But the the the the sailing of the Mayflower was no pleasure cruise.
The journey was long, it was arduous.
And when the pilgrims landed in New England in November, they found, according to Bradford's detailed journal, a cold and barren, desolate wilderness.
There were no friends to greet them, he wrote.
There were no houses to shelter them.
There were no inns where they could refresh themselves.
And the sacrifice they had made for their freedom was just beginning.
During that first winter, half the pilgrims, including William Bradford's own wife, died of either starvation, sickness, or exposure.
When spring finally came, the Indians taught the settlers Native Americans.
Sorry.
I didn't write this book in PC.
I'm gonna read it as I wrote it.
When spring finally came, Indians taught the settlers how to plant corn, fish for cod, and skin beavers for coats.
Yes, the Indians.
The Indians, if I may make a departure from the book, taught the pilgrims how to kill animals.
How to skin beavers so they could stay warm.
Life did improve for the pilgrims, but they didn't prosper.
And this is important to understand because this is where modern American history lessons often end.
Thanksgiving is actually explained in some textbooks, and that's that's I was taught this, as a holiday for which the pilgrims gave thanks to the Indians for saving their lives.
I was taught that the pilgrims arrived, had no clue what to do.
They were in this barren yet pristine land.
And they were starving.
They didn't know how to do anything.
Well, that's what's taught.
It's what I was taught anyway.
But that's not the real story.
Thanksgiving is actually explained in some textbooks as the way I just did it.
Rather than what it is, it's a devout expression of gratitude grounded in the tradition of both the old and the new testaments.
Here's the part.
The real story of Thanksgiving that is omitted from textbooks.
The original contract that the pilgrims had entered into, the Mayflower Compact, with their merchant sponsors in London, called for everything they produced to go into a common store.
And each member of the community was entitled to one common share.
They were going to distribute it equally.
All of the land they cleared and the houses they built belonged to the community as well.
Nobody owned anything.
They just had a share in it.
It was a commune, folks.
It was the it was the forerunner to the ghost old communes we saw in the 60s and 70s out in California.
And complete with organic vegetables, by the way.
William Bradford, who had become the new governor of this colony, recognized that this form of collectivism was as costly and destructive to the pilgrims as that first harsh winter, which had taken so many lives.
So Bradford decided to take bold action.
Instead of deciding they're going to live as a commune with everybody owning nothing and having an equal share of one percent, Bradford assigned a plot of land to each family to work and manage, and they bore the fruits of their labors.
So you had competition introduced for the first time.
This turned loose the power of the marketplace.
Long before Karl Marx was even born, the pilgrims had discovered and experimented with what could only be described as socialism.
And what happened?
It didn't work.
Surprise, surprise, eh?
What Bradford and his community found was that the most creative and industrious people had no incentive to work any harder than anybody else unless they could utilize the power of personal motivation.
But while most of the rest of the world has been experimenting with socialism for well over a hundred years, trying to refine it, perfect it, refund it, reinvent it, the pilgrims decided early on to scrap it permanently.
What Bradford wrote about this social experiment should be in every history lesson in school.
If it were, we might prevent much needless suffering in the future.
Let me read to you what Bradford wrote about this.
The experience that we had in this common course and condition tried sundry years.
That by taking away property and bringing community into a commonwealth would make them happy and flourishing, as if they were wiser than God.
For this community, so far as it was, was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to their benefit and comfort.
For young men that were most able and fit for labor and service did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and children without any recompense, that was thought injustice.
Why should you work for other people when you can't work for yourself?
What's the point?
What he was saying is the pilgrims found that people couldn't be expected to do their best work without some incentive, without some personal reward, without some person But of course we can't have this as selfishness, Rush.
You mean they actually they didn't share?
Oh no, didn't say they didn't share, but you know this this is axiomatic.
The pilgrims found that people couldn't be expected to do their best without incentive.
So what did they try next?
Well, they unharnished the power of good old free enterprise by invoking the undergirding capitalistic principle of private property.
Every family was assigned its own plot of land to work.
They were permitted to market their own crops and products.
The more they grew, the more they made, the more they sold, you can imagine the result.
Listen to what William Bradford himself wrote from his own journal.
This had very good success, for it made all hands industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been.
Bradford doesn't sound much like a modern day liberal, does he?
Is it possible that supply side economics could have existed before the nineteen eighties?
Well, in fact, yes, read the story of Joseph and Pharaoh in Genesis 41.
Following Joseph's suggestion, Pharaoh reduced the tax on Egyptians to 20% during the seven years of plenty, and the earth brought forth in heaps.
Genesis 4147.
In no time the pilgrims found that they had more food than they could eat.
Now, this is where it gets really good, folks, if you if you're laboring under the misconception that I was as I was taught in school.
The pilgrims found they had more food than they could eat themselves, so you know they they set up trading posts.
And they exchanged goods with the Indians.
They shared their bounty with the Indians.
It was not the other way around.
They grew so much that they said, hey chief.
And the Indians showed up and they they started with mutual trading posts.
They exchanged goods with the Indians, the prophets allowed them to pay off their debts to their merchants back in London, and the success and prosperity of the Plymouth settlement attracted more Europeans and became known as the Great Puritan migration.
Now you probably haven't read this yourself.
You might have heard me read it to you over the previous years on this program, but I don't think this lesson is still being taught to children, and if not, why not?
I mean, the the there's is there a more important lesson one could derive from the pilgrim experience than this?
Thanksgiving, in other words, is not thanks to the Indians.
And it's not thanks to William Bradford, it's not thanks to the merchants of London.
Thanksgiving is thanks to God.
Pure and simple.
Go read the first Thanksgiving proclamation from George Washington, and you'll get the point.
You cannot the word God is mentioned in that first Thanksgiving proclamation more times.
If you read it aloud to an ACLU member, you'll get thrown in jail.
But that's what the first Thanksgiving was all about.
Get it?
I'm telling you, read what maybe we can find it in a link to it.
George Washington's first Thanksgiving proclamation.
Folks, if you haven't read that, you need to read it.
It'll tell you the true story of Thanksgiving.
I'm happy to share it with you each and every year as a tradition on this program.
We'll take a quick timeout and be back after this.
Stay with us.
Hi, welcome back.
Great to be with you, Rush Limbaugh, our annual Thanksgiving show.
This is uh Mike in O'Fallon, Missouri.
It's great to have you with us, sir.
Welcome.
Thank you, Rush.
It's an honor uh to talk to you uh longtime listener, first time caller.
Uh I had a couple uh questions I wanted you to comment on.
Uh I'm an attorney and I follow the legal aspects of uh the terror terrorist cases pending, and specifically yesterday, the Jose Pedilla case where they uh changed the status from enemy combat to uh charging him in civilian court,
and I wanted to see if you agreed with my assessment that this is just another uh uh thing on the Bush new offensive against the ACLU and the liberal uh bleeding hearts to show that these people are really uh a terrorists and can finally, you know, come out and do it in the in the open court.
Well, you know what's funny about this?
It's interesting that you say this because I've got I got a story here in the New York Times, and there's another one here in the LA Times.
What is it, Brett's the Washington Post?
There are two there are two stories today, LA Time or Washington Post and New York Times, where the Libs are literally livid about this.
The New York Times headline still searching for a strategy four years after September 11th attack.
See, read the story yesterday after Mr. Padilla spent more than three years in a Navy Brig, the government decided to charge him as a criminal.
Uh now this is I thought what they wanted all along, now they're upset that Bush has done this.
They're upset that Bush has done this, but they've before the before this, they were bleeding and moaning and whining this guy was being held without proper representation, without having been charged, uh, and so forth, and they've been demanding that he be let go.
So the Bush and fine, we'll charge him.
Right.
And I I I, you know, I think this is an offensive uh for the Bush administration to finally to, you know, prove to the people that, you know, these aren't uh, you know, just uh regular, you know, parking ticket criminals.
They're actually people who, you know, want to kill us.
Well, this this is uh the same uh I think the same procedure is gonna be used here as was used against Johnny Ben Walker.
Uh the Marin County uh uh misguided young man ended up in Afghanistan with Al Qaeda.
Right.
Uh so I I no, I I've I found it humorous um that okay, so Padilla's been charged.
I've been a I've been following his case for the longest time, and the Libs have done everything they can to prevent these people from being tried as as as uh uh military combatants because they don't want the military conducting the trials, and they've been upset that this guy's been held with uh without being charged.
That's violation of constitutional rights, and so forth.
So okay, Bush the administration yesterday charges him, and if you read the New York Times Washington Post story, they're they're they're unhappy.
They're they're they're so yeah, you do get the impression.
I mean, I'm not sure I understand precisely why they're unhappy, but I don't care, just that they are means uh that.
Uh well, uh I know that Snerdley has a good point.
Uh uh Padilla had appealed his case to the Supreme Court.
They wanted the Supreme Court to rule that what was being done with Padilla could not be done, that it was violation of uh of his rights and so forth.
And so by charging him, they obviated this whole trip up the uh judicial chain to the Supreme Court, and that's the delicious part of it.
That's really why the Libs are made, because the Libs wanted the court to slam the Bush administration.
You can't ever have a political prisoner.
You can't have an enemy combatant prisoner because these people are not bad people because You have made them terrorists.
You've created these people by going into Iraq.
That's their whole line.
Anyway, gotta go.
I'm glad you called out there, Mike.
Be back here in just a second.
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Little note on Thanksgiving from uh Ben Franklin in his uh in his biography, autobiography.
He notes that one of the early practitioners actually wanted a fast on Thanksgiving.
Said, hell with that, we're gonna feast.
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