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Nov. 10, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 10, 2005, Thursday, Hour #3
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All right, it is with excitement that I open the third hour of today's excursion into broadcast excellence, El Rushbaugh and the EIB network, America's anchorman, Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Here's our telephone number, 800-282-2882.
The email address is rush at EIBnet.com.
On Monday of this, was it Monday?
This is already Thursday.
Was it Monday that it was Monday and Tuesday that they were debating the Harkin Amendment on the floor of the U.S. Senate?
And the purpose of the Harkin Amendment was to set up an ombudsman for Armed Forces Radio that would oversee fairness and balance and so forth.
And Harkin's concern was that there was way too much of me and not enough liberalism on Armed Forces Radio, discounting that NPR was all liberal.
And so in the process of conducting his debate, he took all these quotes of mine about Abu Grab out of context.
And we were having a lot of fun with that on Monday and Tuesday.
So a guy called, guy called Tuesday after I forget where, what his name was, he had a brilliant idea.
He said, Kenneth in Dubuque, Iowa.
Is that who it was?
Okay, Kenneth in Dubuque, Iowa called.
Kevin, sorry.
Kevin in Dubuque, Iowa.
And he said, why don't you put up an adopt a soldier program for your website?
Because what had happened, a bunch of soldiers had called in.
We had calls from Germany and other places around the world from people saying, yeah, thank God for your website because we only get one hour of your show on Armed Forces Radio.
I don't know what all this talk of is about how you dominate Armed Forces Radio.
There's one hour of you a day during the 24-hour busy broadcast day of Armed Forces Radio.
And there are a lot of military people who are subscribers to the website.
I've ran into them when I went to Afghanistan.
So this guy's idea was, why don't you have an adopt a soldier program?
And basically was let people subscribe to the website for Armed Forces personnel around the world.
It was a heck of a good idea.
And ever since then, we have been deluged in the Rush 24-7 comments email address with people who want to donate.
I want people saying, I'll donate 10.
I'll do this.
It's going through the roof out there.
So we started looking into this Tuesday night to find a way to see if this is possible.
Because if you're going to do this, you have to have a genuine, legitimate, verifiable database of Armed Forces personnel stationed overseas.
And then you have to have a way of matching up those of you who want to adopt a soldier to those people.
And the trickiest thing was going out and finding a legitimate database.
That means working with people who know who's over there.
But our people worked on this really fast, and we have set it up.
Now, here's the way this is going to work.
Full-time active duty service personnel stationed anywhere in the world are eligible as long as they can be reached with an APO FPO address or a street address that we can confirm is military.
We will be very, very vigilant against people trying to scam this brilliant and great program.
We have no doubt that many liberals who are expecting handouts their whole lives will try to glom onto this program and pass themselves off as military in order to get in a database so they can get free subscription to the website.
We are going to be very, very diligent about this.
Starting Monday, which is November the 14th, interested service personnel or their families on their behalf will be able to register for a donated subscription to Rush 24-7 and the Limbaugh letter.
to throw that in there too by looking for the link from the homepage of rushlimbaugh.com we are going to collect basic information from those people including their branch their rank their base their email and mailing address and when they complete that form they'll get a confirmation mail that their data has been accepted and they'll be notified when they have been matched with a donor This email will contain a unique record number.
So the first thing that has to happen here is that interested service personnel or their families on their behalf will have to register at rushlimbaugh.com for a donated subscription to the website and the newsletter.
And there'll be a link at rushlimbaugh.com starting Monday.
It's not up there now.
It won't be up there until Monday, but there will be a link that will give you a form to fill out if you are the service person or if you are a family member wanting to register a service personnel member of your family.
You complete that form.
You get a confirmation mail from us that their data has been accepted because we're going to cross-reference it and make sure that all the data we get can be confirmed as military.
On the same day, starting Monday, November the 14th, donors of these, well, if you want to adopt a soldier, the adoptive parents, as you will, will be able to find another link at rushlimbaugh.com that will let you donate as many one-year combo subscriptions as you would like at a price reduced by over 15% to $49.95.
So that's a 15% price reduction for the Adopt a Soldier program.
It'll be identical to placing a gift order, except they will not specify a recipient.
And it'll be asked if we can send along their email address to the recipient of their gift.
So you're going to be cross-referenced.
You will not be able to pick out your soldier.
We're going to do that for you, but you will know who your soldier is.
And if you have a desire to share email addresses, then we can arrange that.
My staff is going to match donors to recipients.
It'll happen on a first-come, first-served order.
That process will start on November 21st because it's going to take us a week to get all of the interested military personnel and their families registered, verified, so that we have a database to start with when it comes time to matching people who want to donate a combined subscription to a soldier.
They will confirm that the recipient is a service person, enter them into the Palm Coast database, and issue them with usernames and passwords.
They'll be given all the things they need on a complimentary basis, valid for one year.
In every respect, these recipients of these donations will be identical to a combo subscriber in our overall system.
It'll be no different.
My staff will send an email to the recipient confirming the start of the subscription and the email address of the donor if the donor approves this.
And then it will be up to the soldier, the recipient of the website and newsletter subscription to get back to the donor and start a conversation.
We're going to be talking to press officers that are in all branches of the service to have them spread the word in their respective branches so that we get lots of potential recipients on this.
Also doing it this way, so that any of you out there stationed anywhere, if you want to be in the Adopt a Soldier program and have people donate a subscription to you.
And as I say, this is a caller-generated idea.
I wish I could say it was ours, but it was a caller-generated idea.
And the offshoot of it is that so many soldiers are calling here and say, what is this?
AFRTS getting all this Rush Limbo stuff.
We get one hour a day.
And we had so many soldiers calling and saying, thanks, God, for your website.
We get all three of it.
We can listen to it and we have time.
They run it at 8 o'clock at night, generally, the first hour of this program on the Armed Forces Radio Network.
So this is the way we decided to do it.
And it's going to be great.
And I just am grateful as I can be to all of you who have written it.
And it's literally thousands of people who have written and offered to donate to the Adopt a Soldier program.
Now, one other thing: I'm going to be out all next week, but we're going to go ahead and start the program anyway.
I was given the option to delay this till I got back, but I don't want to delay it.
You'll be able to do all this on the website anyway.
Our guest hosts next week will be reminding people of the details and chatting this up.
But we need that week next week for service personnel or their families to start registering themselves so that we can do the cross-checking and verification and get a database up there that we can then match donors to.
So this program gets started.
The matching and the turning on, the activation of these complimentary subscriptions to the service personnel will start on Monday the 21st.
But the whole thing gets kicked off on Monday the 14th.
The service personnel or their families fill out a form after they log on to let us verify who they are.
And the donors, you who want to donate, do the same thing, which there's no form for you to fill out.
There's just a little bitty one, but it's not, you don't have to be verified for anything.
So we're going to go ahead and start this because it's something that is of massive popular demand.
While I'm talking about the website, the Rush DVD on Broadway, the on-Broadway DVD that everybody wanted because they couldn't get into the arena, the arena, the theater, the Lion King Theater.
We've had that up at the EIB store since Monday.
It's flying off the shelves as well, 1995 for over two hours of a stand-up performance at the Lion King Theater, which was on October 18th in Manhattan.
And I keep getting emails from people.
What is this about your legal case?
There's an AP story out there on a development, my so-called legal case.
And I just, there's too many other things going on.
I don't really want to talk about that.
I'd love to be able to, but I don't want to.
But everything you need to know about it has been posted on the website as well.
The transcript of the hearing on Monday, the brief that we filed, a brief little synopsis of things.
It was good on Monday.
And if you want to log on and read the transcript, essentially the heart of the matter starts on page 29.
It's a 42-page transcript.
It's a court reporter transcript.
There's not a whole lot of words on each page.
It's not 42 full print, 8.5 by 11 pages.
It's not that big at all.
They use half the page and it's double spaced.
You know how the government is, as much paper as they can use, do it.
And so that's up there.
And I would strongly suggest you read it because this transcript pretty much spells out the so-called case, as does our brief.
And you can see what the latest attempt is.
I mean, the summation is that this is a brief little summary.
After two years, the prosecution admitted in court on Monday that they have not one element of any crime that I've ever committed, despite getting everything they've wanted from the court system.
They wanted medical records, they wanted this.
They got what they wanted throughout it, throughout it all.
We need those records.
In fact, they even started out saying, well, we want those records.
Will those records prove X?
And they admit in open court and to the world on Monday that they haven't been able to assemble elements of one crime.
And now they want more.
And you'll see what it is they want.
Anyway, quick timeout.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
Don't go away.
You're listening to Rush Limbaugh on the Excellence in Podcasting Network.
Hi, and welcome back.
It's El Rush Ball and the EIB Network.
Folks, I left a couple things out.
Well, I didn't leave two things out because I didn't know about the second thing until in the break, but I did leave one thing out.
You know me.
Look, I never ask people to do things I don't do.
When it comes to donating money to charities or so, I always donate too because I've always been bugged by watching these telethons and watch these people.
Won't you give?
Won't you get off your sofa and stop stuff on your face for one second and give?
And I'm always sitting there saying, What are you doing?
I am donating my time.
Well, yippee.
I've never wanted that reaction.
So I'm going to buy personally.
This is not going to be an accounting trick.
I am actually going to have a number of these Adopt-a-Soldier subscriptions bought and paid for by me on my super secret credit card.
I'm not going to tell you how many.
Well, no, I'm not going to tell you how many, but it's going to be a significant number.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to buy some too.
I don't want anybody to think that it's all up to you because it's a great idea.
Now, here's the second thing that I learned during the break.
We got an email from a 24-7 subscriber who lives in Philadelphia.
His name is Lawrence Hicks.
He said, Hey, Rush, count me in on this, but I think you ought to add one more feature to the program.
As part of the Adopt a Soldier program, could you also send a thank-you note on behalf of every soldier and every donor to Senator Tom Harkin?
You see, without him, this idea would have never become available.
If Harkin hadn't ran it on and on and on, this idea from your caller would not have come up.
So, yeah, I think we can do that.
We can make sure that thank you notes to Senator Harkin are sent on behalf of every soldier and donor as part of the Adopt a Soldier program.
Ronnie in Bel Air, Texas, you're next.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Hey, Rush, that idea is icing on the cake for the original idea.
It is.
It's fantastic.
I heard the listener the other day, and I never could have imagined that y'all could have gotten it together as quickly as you did.
But I should have known that when you're doing something the right way, it would get done the right way.
Let me tell you something: when there's the with the it's like supply and demand, demand drew this, drew drove this.
If you should have seen, if you could see the number of emails from people who we got who wanted to be part of this, it's more emails than on anything I've ever gotten email about.
It's fantastic.
I tell the listen, your screamer, I'm taking my piddle-little money that I got from being an election clerk on Tuesday and using that to buy these things for the soldiers.
It's fantastic.
God love you.
This is just fabulous.
I can't.
But make sure you send the thank you notes to Tom Harkin.
I think that's just, I think for an extra dollar, I'll be willing to do that.
It won't cost an additional dollar.
Okay.
It won't cost.
It'll be part of the deal.
We'll be glad.
This will be easy.
A thank you note to Tom Harkin's office.
That'll be easy.
Now, again, folks, let me remind you: you can't sign up for this today.
It's not going to be on the website to sign up for till Monday.
If you're a soldier or a family member, it'll be Monday as the first day that you can log on and begin the process to register on the 21st of November.
Monday the 21st is when we start actually making the donations.
And this will not be on the website till Monday.
We're going to have a note on the website explaining what I've just explained to you about the start dates.
So if you're going there now trying to get, ooh, this is good.
Just be patient because it'll all kick off on Monday.
Kurt in Janesville, Wisconsin.
Glad you waited.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi, Rush.
I talked to you last year about this summer, a little before, when my two boys were serving in Iraq.
Yeah.
And it was regarding Senator Terry.
And you know, he's not the one I worry about.
You know, as Anne Coulter said, many of the liberals in her book, How to Talk to a Liberal, many of them are fatuous idiots.
They don't know better.
The ones I'm worried about are within our party, like Pat Buchanan, Paul Craig Roberts, Joe Sorbin.
One worked for the Republican, our staunch Republican, Reagan.
The other one worked for Nixon.
And one worked for the National Review.
And their diets on the war in Iraq are really getting to me.
Wait, wait, hold on just a second here.
I'm having a real problem understanding you, Kurt.
It's not your fault.
It's mine.
But could you name these names for me?
You named Buchanan.
I don't know who Roberts is.
Paul Craig Roberts.
Paul Craig Roberts, okay?
And Joe, who once worked for the Republican estate.
He worked for Reagan, and he was an assistant Secretary of the Treasury.
He is a columnist and a conservative one.
Oh, well, I'm going to have to take a guess.
So it's basically Republican columnists who are opposed to the war that you're talking about.
And a couple of them are libertarians.
I don't know if you've seen some of the libertarians.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But your point is that they're just as bad as the leftist anti-war protesters.
Yes, they are.
How so?
Well, for instance, Paul Craig Roberts just wrote a column on how to impeach President Bush and how to end the war.
Pat Buchanan just wrote a column that said 2,000 dead and for what?
In fact, I, you know, as a father of two boys that served in Iraq, I wrote Paul Craig Roberts, and I implored him not to do this.
And he told me in an email that my boys had been had.
And this infuriates people like me.
Our boys were in many, many incidents there where they almost lost their lives.
So I just want you to know that we do have a Trojan horse in the conservative movement.
Well, I understand that.
I know what motivates Pat Buchanan.
Pat is, and I like Pat.
I always have.
Pat is of the mindset that after we defeated the Soviets, that was our big war.
After that was over, all the rest of these little skirmishes, let these people fight among themselves, and we got no business to get involved in it.
We don't understand their cultures, and it's only going to make this.
That's his theory.
The other guys I'm unfamiliar with, but I will say that there is a distinction.
And I don't think that any of the people that you mentioned is hoping for a U.S. defeat.
I don't think Buchanan wants us to lose.
I don't think Paul Craig Roberts wants us to lose.
And that is, to me, a pretty big line of demarcation.
We'll be back in just a second.
Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
By the way, before I forget this, I want to wish the United States Marine Corps today a happy birthday.
This is birthday number 230 for the United States Marine Corps.
Semperfi, Marie in Patterson, New Jersey.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello.
Mega Ditto's Rush, Mega Mega.
Thank you.
I want to make a comment about the investigation in the Senate.
I am furious.
Now, you always made the comment, the people get what they want.
Well, I want the people to flood Frist and Hazard's office and tell them, don't even think about slowing this down or trying to bury it.
Well, you can do that.
I'm not going to sit here and suggest it.
No, no, I'm suggesting it, Rush.
I am livid.
Well, you ought to be.
I mean, they'll stop anything to investigate anything else.
But when it comes to investigating themselves, especially in the atmosphere with the war on terror that we are on, this kind of a leak, if it was a leak, and if it actually did happen, we need to find out who.
The reason I say people get what they want, I talked to Mike Pence, Indiana Republican congressman, did an interview for the Limbaugh letter, and he said that the phone calls and letters to Congress work, especially if those phone calls and letters come from the district of the congressman.
And I said, well, what if the congressman considers or thinks that it's just a spam campaign, that somebody's out there suggesting and giving out phone numbers and these people calling or just calling and don't even know why.
He said, hey, you can recognize spam callers.
We can recognize them here in Congress too.
We know when they're legitimate and when they're not.
I've just never had a policy of giving out phone numbers and all that.
If somebody wants to call and they care enough, they can go find the number or the email address themselves.
But Pence told me that it does have more power than anybody out here would ever know.
Well, I'm thinking of this fiasco that just went with Libby.
I mean, that was a fiasco.
This is serious business.
And I think all of us, whether you're in the district or the American people ought to make noise and flood their offices.
Don't you dare drag your feet on this.
And it'll go wherever it has to go.
It is serious stuff.
She's talking, by the way, folks, if you're just joining us, the Washington Post story last Wednesday that revealed the secret prisons, black sites they're called, that the CIA has set up around the world where al-Qaeda prisoners are being held.
Somebody leaked that story to the Washington Post.
The Senate Republican caucus had their private behind-closed doors lunch on Tuesday last week.
Trent Lott said that they were discussing it there, so he thinks that somebody at lunch leaked it, which would be a Republican.
Now, McCain has come out and said, according to the American Spectator blog, Washington Prowler, that they didn't talk about it in there.
He doesn't know what Lott's talking about.
So the picture's just gotten murkier, a little cloudier.
And a letter went out, I guess it was, was it Tuesday or yesterday?
These days are running together.
Letter went out from Frist and Hastert saying we're going to have a bicampbell investigation to find out about this CIA leak.
This is a real CIA leak.
This is not some little bogus two-year investigation into who outed an agent that's not even covert.
This is a serious leak in the war on terror.
Well, that letter was leaked before Frist and Hastert were ready to send it, before they had even signed it.
So they were forced into sending the letter sooner than they wanted to.
Now, some of the Republicans, some of the senators have said, we need to go slow on this.
We need to let the Justice Department, which has been referred, this case, by the CIA, we need to let the Justice Department do their work here before we investigate.
Well, we investigated Enron while the Justice Department was investigating Enron.
We had the oil execs in there yesterday for a pure dog and pony show.
So this idea, and we're delaying the Roberts hearing or the Alito hearings till January because they're just too busy in there.
But now they want to slow this down.
And I agree totally with you, Marie.
This is serious stuff.
Whoever, if anyone did, whoever leaked this, even if it is a Republican, here is Josie in Florence, Kentucky.
Josie, nice to have you on the program.
Hi, Rosh.
Thanks for taking my call.
My pleasure.
I have a suggestion with regards to what may or may not be considered an acceptable or responsible protest.
You know, when Bill Clinton abandoned our bullies in Somalia, what we call Black Hawk Down, you know, most everyone we knew was outraged.
But anyone with a lick of common sense knows that as long as our military men and women are on foreign soil, you know, you can't compromise that by attacking the commander-in-chief.
So we rallied support in our communities.
We notified our elected officials.
You know, we did what we thought the founders would appreciate versus standing out there like idiots wanting our 15 minutes a thing.
So you lobbied, basically.
Yes, sir.
We lobbied for an effective change.
You had a different purpose.
You had a different purpose.
The anti-war movement here is I don't think that they even their purpose is defeat.
They want to defeat the war effort so that the war is lost.
They want to humiliate George W. Bush.
This is an election issue.
They're treating it as a campaign issue, and they're disguising themselves as these brave, courageous, bravehearts who simply want peace in the world and hate all this suffering and gunfire and mortar fire and bombings.
It's just not right.
We're all one happy family.
Can't we all just get along?
Doctors, nurses, and peace water.
And it's just, that's what they want to be perceived as, but they're not.
They're just they don't want America to be this kind of country, in their minds, a barbaric, war-mongering imperialist.
They want America to be very docile and like France.
And I just, I think that the reason they go public is quite obvious.
I have to tell you this story.
This is just a hoot.
In fact, when I saw the headline, the headline, Pistons Kings Apology.
And a little blurb here says Sacramento Kings apologized for running a Detroit video.
I thought before I read the details, you know what I thought they did?
I thought they ran detail or video of the fight between the Indiana Pacers and the Pistons, but that's not what they did.
The Kings had their home opener on Tuesday night.
They bought full-page ads in two newspapers, though, to apologize for showing derogatory images of Detroit on video screens prior to their home opener against the Pistons.
When the Detroit Pistons were introduced Tuesday night, the ARCO Arena scoreboard flashed pictures of abandoned buildings, burned-out cars, piles of rubble, and other negative images of Detroit.
The Pistons went on to win the game 102-88.
The Kings apologized that night, and the owners, Joe and Gavin Malouf, bought a full-page ad that ran in Thursday editions of the Detroit News, expressing great respect for Detroit's long-enriched tradition as a landmark American city and the incredibly positive impact the Motor City has made over the course of our country's history.
The ad will also run in Friday editions of the Detroit Free Press.
King's spokesbabe Sonia Brown said, we feel terrible that we made just a big mistake and we want to communicate that.
The Pistons coach said he and his assistants were initially angered by it, but settled down after hearing from the Kings.
Saunders said the coach of the Pistons, their organization has always been very first class.
Opening nights, sometimes they get really excited.
Some of their people just really weren't quite thinking all the way.
NBA spokesman Tim Frank said the league is reviewing the incident.
NBA policy prohibits ridiculing of opponents or game officials via PA announcements, video, matrix displays, music, or mascot skits.
Who in the world would come up with this idea?
Who in this world?
This is the kind of thing I did playing pranks on them.
Never an arena or anything like this, but I mean, to get this kind of video, bombed out cars, abandoned buildings, piles of rubble to welcome the Detroit Pistons to Sacramento.
Anyway, I'll bet the Pistons get something going for the Kings when they show up in Detroit later on this year to play the Pistons.
Quick time out.
Don't go away.
We'll be right back.
And welcome back.
It's the EIB Network and El Rushbo.
By the way, I got an idea for you, liberals.
Liberals are always out there saying you support the troops.
Well, then Adopt a Soldier.
Join the Adopt a Soldier program at rushlimbaugh.com.
If you're a lib and you want to say you support the troops, it's a great way to prove it.
We got an interesting note here.
I'm glad I got this email.
It is from a gentleman in San Antonio.
He says, Rush, there's a potential snag that could adversely affect military recipients in the Adopt a Soldier program.
Most military computer systems with a .mil address have multiple firewalls and security monitoring systems which block the Rush Limbaugh website.
Deployed soldiers would need access to unrestricted public internet, which is sometimes hard to come by in the field.
I'm an Air Force pilot.
I've been a listener since 91.
It's been a chronic problem for me while flying worldwide.
I carry a thumb drive.
I've been downloading the MP3 podcast whenever I come across an unrestricted computer for later playback on my laptop.
I'm usually unable to do it on an Air Force computer system.
This is, see, we even factored that into this.
We know that.
We know these firewalls exist and these security limitations.
This is why we're offering a combo subscription and including the newsletter, the Limbaugh letter in this, so that if any soldier or Marine, airman, Navy personnel, sailor has a hard time getting the website audio, they'll still get the Limbaugh letter.
One of the reasons we are offering podcasts of every show is that the podcasts usually don't encounter the same restrictions that streaming the audio on the website sometimes does.
So the podcasts of each program, and they're offered free to every subscriber, and these people who are donated subscriptions in the Adopt a Soldier program will have the option of downloading the podcast right to your computer via our software.
And in most cases, these restrictions that restrict the availability of streaming audio or even video for that matter, the DittoCam, will be overcome by the podcast delivery system.
So we've thought of that, and we're going to do our best to see to it that what is desired is received.
Stephen, Marquette, Michigan, you're next, sir.
Nice to have you on the program.
Good afternoon, Mr. Limbaugh.
How are you today?
Fine, sir.
Thank you.
I've recently become aware of the fact that the Israelis don't torture when they're interrogating.
In fact, the Israeli Supreme Court has outlawed the use of torture in interrogation.
And I wondered, you know, because Israel is under so much attack, you know, they go through a lot more than we go through on a daily basis in their own country.
Why do we feel that we have to torture for interrogation when they don't?
Well, I don't think that we do.
You don't think we do?
We do or we don't?
No, I don't think torture is a common, ordinary, everyday part of our interrogation strategy.
The Israelis never do.
Why do we have to?
I can't answer that.
No, why not?
I'm not going to grant your premise that we do it.
Oh, okay.
You're the only one that doesn't know it then.
No, I am skeptical of those who make the charge.
Just because somebody charges that we're committing torture, when Ted Kennedy talks about it, and Pat Leahy, I'm not one to join up and sign up and automatically believe in it.
They want to allow the CIA to torture in some instances.
Dick Cheney's pushing for this.
Correct?
Kennedy is...
Cheney, you say, is pushing for this.
Torture and...
I don't know that.
You don't know that.
Everybody else knows that you don't know it.
The point is that it doesn't work.
The reason the Israelis don't do it...
And why are you pushing for it?
It doesn't work.
Why is Dick Cheney pushing for it?
I don't know that he is.
Who's telling you that he is?
Why is President Bush going to veto this 90-9 resolution that was passed by the U.S. Senate?
Because he's the commander-in-chief and they're not.
Now, you tell me, you tell me who is saying, who is saying that Cheney wants to torture in some circumstances.
Where are you hearing this?
They had John McCain on the other night and they met with him.
He said that Dick Cheney is pushing for this legislation.
Well, I'm telling you, I don't believe everything John McCain says.
Okay, well, I believe everything you say, Rush.
You have yourself a nice day.
You do the same thing.
So here we are.
Look where we are in the middle of the war on terror.
And look what's on the minds of the average American liberal.
We're guilty.
We've got the problem.
We have to prove we're the good guys.
We have to prove that we're not as bad as the bad guys.
Rich in Newington, Connecticut.
Welcome.
Nice to have you with us, sir.
Rush, it's a pleasure to talk to you.
Mega Ditto's from Connecticut.
Thank you, sir.
You know, what really bothers me about all this torture stuff, nobody was concerned when people were getting their heads cut off.
And I think if we're going to go after people like that, we have to be willing to do what we need to do to find them.
I think Al-Zhaqawi and Bin Laden could be found very easily if the intelligence committees would just let the intelligence community do their job.
We got to find these people somehow.
We're at a war.
These are not ordinary times, and we've got to use some non-ordinary means to accomplish our task.
Now, I'm not saying go out and torture them, but keeping a person awake for 10 hours, I don't consider that torture.
Look, yeah, that's the way the libs define torture is absurd.
But regardless, to focus on this in the midst of this is simply a way to derail the U.S. war effort.
These liberals are not concerned that we be valorous or valorous, I'm sorry.
They're not concerned that we be great people setting a great example for the world.
That's just a bunch of drivel.
They are trying to impugn and embarrass the United States military and this administration.
It is Dick Durbin-type strategy.
All that goes on at Club Gitmo is no different than what Pol Pot did, no different than Stalin's gulags, no different than Nazi concentration camps.
The burden of proof is on these people.
They're running out making these extreme, extraordinary statements, trying to cast the entire military and intel community with this kind of behavior.
And I'm simply not going to sit here and accept the premise, and I'm certainly not going to accept the so-called basis for it.
We are good people.
We must not compromise our ideals.
We must not become what our enemies are.
We can't do that.
They win if we do that.
That's a bunch of conflict resolution crap that's been taught in junior highs and grade schools and colleges for crying out loud for low on too many years now.
The fact is that pure torture doesn't work anyway.
The torture results in false information more often than not.
And McCain, by the way, talk about McCain knows what real torture is.
And he was really tortured.
And for him to do anything that conveys the impression that we are doing to them what was happening to him in the Hanoi Hilton, I'm just, you know, it's the motivation that bugs me on these people.
Don't try to pin this torture support on me.
I'm not advocating torture.
I am going to clearly ridicule what I think is not torture when other people try to claim it is.
But I am not going to accept by these people's own so-called testimony that they're only interested in us maintaining our ideals.
That is flat-out crap.
These people are trying to impugn us and harm our effort to conduct this war because they want Bush to lose.
That's what's so outrageous about all this.
Democrats going on television last night and this morning talking about this attack in Amon Jordan as being Bush's fault and our military's incompetent and our intel's incompetent.
And these are the guys standing in the way of both of those organizations being the best they can be.
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Got an idea for the Detroit Pistons when the Sacramento Kings visit your fair city.
When they're introduced, show video of Rio Linda.
It'll outdo anything they showed of Detroit.
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